Tuesday, 6 August 2013

A CANONICAL CORRECT PRIEST LAUGHS AT PAT


THIS COMMENT FROM A CANONICALLY CORRECT AND PROUD DOWN AND CONNOR PRIEST WAS POSTED OVER NIGHT

THE VERY REVEREND Dee And See - D. Con., M.Power, M. Proud, B. Wine (Hons) 

"I LAUGH AT ALL OF THIS - THE SIMPLE FACT IS THAT WE THE CONSERVATIVE BUNCH HOLD THE POWER AND YOU LIBERALS ARE NOT WANTED. CLEAR OFF, DRESS UP AND PLAY BISHOP AND PRIEST. YOU ARE NOT AND YOU WILL NEVER BE RECOGNISED BY US ROMANS. IN FACT, WHEN WE TELL OUR ECUMENICAL PARTNERS NOT TO RECOGNISE YOU - THEY WILL NOT. YOU ARE A JOKE. I BET YOU CAN NOT EVEN AFFORD A BOTTLE OF DECENT WINE.

PACK OF FOOLS.

REALIST. CONSERVATIVE. D & C AND PROUD

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JESUS REPLIES



DEAR D & C CONSERVATIVE AND PROUD

HAPPY ARE THOSE WHO MOURN NOW - ONE DAY THEY WILL LAUGH;
WOE TO THOSE WHO LAUGH NOW - ONE DAY THEY WILL WEEP AND MOURN

HAPPY ARE THE POWERLESS - ONE DAY THEY WILL REIGN
WOE TO THOSE WHO HAVE POWER NOW - ONE DAY THEY WILL SQUIRM

I WAS NOT RECOGNISED BY THE CHIEF PRIESTS, THE PHARISEES, PILATE, HEROD
HOWEVER I WAS RECOGNISED BY THE POOR, THE SICK, LEPERS, TAX COLLECTORS, FISHERMEN,.

I WAS A JOKE
BUT WHO IS THE LAUGH ON NOW?

THE SOLDIERS MOCKED ME AND CALLED ME A KING.
OTHERS SAID: "CAN ANYTHING GOOD COME OUT OF NAZARETH"?

I USED MY FIRST MIRACLE TO MAKE THE BEST WINE THE WORLD EVER SAW.

EVEN THOUGH WE WERE HOMELESS I DRANK WINE WITH MY DISCIPLES.

THOSE WHO FOLLOW IN MY FOOTSTEPS WILL DRINK THE NEW WINE IN MY FATHER'S HOUSE.

I TURNED MY WINE INTO MY BLOOD.

NOW MANY OF MY PRIESTS AND BISHOPS TURN MY WINE BACK INTO BLOOD.

AS MY DISCIPLE PAUL SAID:

"THERE ARE SOME GOING AROUND BOASTING OF THINGS OF WHICH THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED.

BLESSED ARE THE HUMBLE THEY SHALL INHERIT THE EARTH.

WOE TO THOSE WHO ARE PROUD - THEY WILL BE HUMBLED. 


MY CHURCH LIES IN RUINS





WOE TO THOSE WHO HAVE RUINED IT



14 comments:

  1. First of all what a decent bottle of wine has to do with anything is beyond me! any wine that + Pat buys is with his own money that he has earned, not fleeced from the poor fools that have the mistaken notion that you are in anyway an ordained minister of a loving and compassionate God.Anyway given all the money you have to pay to victims of clerical abuse I am surprised you have enough left over for a decent bottle of wine! As for your so called " ecumenical partners " I am surprised you have any left!You also display that most noble and respected of traits:cowardice,if you have the balls to say something have the balls to put at least a real first name to it or are pherhaps afraid that your own bishop would see your message for what it really is: childish and somewhat pathetic.I have been through your seminary system and if this is what passes as priesthood these days then who in the name of God would want to be a part of it.Tonight as you drink from your " decent " bottle of wine you might reflect on what it really means to be an ordained minister,I think you might be surprised to find that churlishness is generally not a quality cherished in ordained men and women.Mike

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    1. Mike, put my real name on it - Mr. Buckley would make accusations about me and even write to every person and thing about me! That is what he does, write and write and write. I suppose when you have no ministry thats all you can do!

      Own money, yeah! I have seen that car he drives, any wonder he can, because those old dear people you refer to, they paid for his rent free house to be brought up to modern spec. He brought and forced those wee dears to pay for his 'den'! Pretend that you lot have a conscience, who are you kidding?

      Passes for the P/H these days, what are you talking about? You lot are a joke and you know it - what do you do for people, people run away from you and if they do not they have enough doubt to seek advice from their local 'real' priest who will inform them to stay far away from you!

      Wise up and get a life you lot!

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  2. Sad sad sad !!! "We have the power" That just about sums it up. Power and prestige. And slowly but surely your power is eroding. Have you had a good look down the pews on a Sunday and counted how many of the younger generation are there. This generation is turning its' back on the RCC in droves. Why? They are fed up listening to manipulated "truths" being peddled by hypocrites and bishops who will go to any lengths to protect perverted child abusers, two faced celibate bonkers and dishonest thieves lest the good name of the church should be tarnished. I am a professional man and I know many priests in D&C and quite frankly many of them are sad, lonely and frustrated souls but pretending not to be. Have you seen how ill at ease many of them are when the bishops are around in close proximity. Their body language screams out fear and discomfort.And these are supposedly grown mature men. Good God !! Many trapped in a job that has long since lost its' appeal and prestige. Many of them feel unwanted, un needed and unloved. So so sad. However there is a solution. They can buy a bottle of good wine and send stupid meaningless emails during the night. Makes up for not getting a big warm cuddle from a loving partner

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  3. Ironically, although I do not believe in God, I do believe "do unto others as you would have them do unto you", which is not the "copyright" of Jesus, by the way. This is a matter of pure logic. I have tried to live according to this rule. I spend most of my free time denouncing all the 1,001 ways in which selfish persons exploit, cheat and manipulate others.

    I repeat, it is awful when your belief bubble bursts - as a teenager I saw my future as a missionary in Africa - but perhaps this is a moment to find out exactly how much of what we hold as true really is so.

    The priest who wrote this response is evil because he knows that he is a fraud and is happy to pronounce it. Why? "Because he can"! What a Church!!

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  4. Like any Catholic could read the Maleus Maleficarum, the official Catholic guidebook ( oh yes...it was sanctioned by the church ) on how to torture and interrogate witches and not grasp that Catholicism is just a little off what Jesus preached ??

    The comment above by that awful man and not surprisingly a RC priest, is actually mild given the lies they tell everyday!!

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  5. The prevailing problems of the Catholic Church are not about human frailty, and this is also true regarding historical abuse. Time and time again decisions were made to protect the abuser and in doing so further damage victims. It may not have been the aim of the Church to 'facilitate ' abuse; but when culprits are merely moved on then this does facilitate that abuse.

    Those guilty of doing nothing are complicit in the abuse and subsequent damage: silence is consent. God help any child who comes into contact with the above priest of that excuse of a diocese Down & Conor.

    As to the question of standards and expectations any religion and its leaders is expected to lead by example. Sadly in many cases the example, as seen above, set was to merely form the wagons in a circle, leaving the victims well and truly excluded and sometimes vilified as well. So liberal's take heart, could be worse they could rape you and use every piece of human trickery to blame 'you'!

    This chap is scary and indeed dangerous. Do this priests get professionally assesed or do they have professional standards to meet??

    God help us all. To my Catholic friends I say protect yourself and seek the alternative.

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  6. From the attitude of the excuse for a man above I say, God help our church. We need to go in to these priest houses and chase these beasts away from us. He is typical of the modern seminary, I know as my brother is one. As a teenager he could not even talk about the fact that he could have an 'erection'! He would 'play' alone then preach to me about moral standards!

    Standards - The attractiveness of a socially legitimate role in a homophobic society? Arrested sexual development in going from post-adolescent teens stright into priest school? The attractiveness of access to children for paedophiles? Etc.

    How are we to get these beasts some help, my brother included, that is if he has not cut his willy off in case he 'sins'!!

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  7. Decent wine! Liberals not wanted! My friend you need to seek spiritual and professional help for your powertrip! If you were a doctor claiming that you are not interested in helping people, just that awe and status of the profession I would say that same. In fact I refused to train two medical students, whom I would say held similar, dangerous and two-faced views such as yours.

    Liberals not wanted:

    Yeah...tell that the girls of the magdalene laundries, or children like my Dad in the 1950s/60s beaten black and blue by nuns all their school lives, hating education and leaving at 14. He has far more contempt for the nuns than the priests of his area (who did at least have a kick-about in the streets with the kids once in a while). But yeah big bad liberal men in the world...yada, yada.

    To give a little credit, at least the Church has had some degree of scrutability on abuse from the media in the last 20 years, as do other branches of Christianity in the West, and it has a clear organisation structure and chain of command. The buck stops somewhere, but you clearly show that it stops nowhere!

    Yet, everyone knows in mosque schools, synagogue schools and those instructing Sikh children into the religion in modern Ireland that some abuse has gone on, and may still be going on. But there has been hardly any investigation at all. Who knows how many pillars of the community know about it, but hush it up and keep things 'in-house.' Whenever there is some brief investigation, usually from journalists, there is a closing of ranks and politicians don't want to touch the matter with a barge poll. e.g Channel 4 undercover mosque in 2011 was criticised (!) by an MP in the face of video evidence. Or the Sikh play about violence and abuse that was pulled due to violent protests, a fascist act of suppression (that has been rightly criticised for its occurance in Greece), yet no real outcry that the play must continue for reasons of freedom of expression.

    Be careful of large, organised religions please!

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  8. From the persecution of scientists, to the inquistion, the appalling effects of "missionary work", the acceptance of "nazi gold", the lack of action to save Jews during the holocaust, the horrors of catholic run residential schools for natives in North America, the Magdalene laundries, misogyny, child abuse, the concealing of child abuse, banking scandals - and of course plenty of torture and witch burnings - oh, and the crusades.........IRA.........

    It is difficult to recognise a time when the catholic - or any other religion was any sort of force for good. So i'm a little puzzled as to which halcyon days you are looking back to.

    A liberal would not be anywhere near a diocese like that D&C!

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  9. As a priest in the Oratory Society I have to say that this remark from the D & C priest is a very honest and a very brave post. He actually speaks the truth! He is telling it as it is! Thank you for your honesty. We know that we are not wanted etc... But we are going no place soon. We are here for the duration to expose the 'bunch' that you are, I refuse to use the word conservative - I prefer two-faced and hypocritical, but that is just me.


    It's impossible to read history and literature without coming to the conclusion that the problems we see today are endemic to the structure and hierarchy of the Catholic Church. Chaucer used wit and humor to pillory its less evil foibles (priests taking lovers, nuns wearing "love-knots," friars so fat they can't waddle, those who've taken vows of silence speaking, those taking vows of poverty clinking their gold coins together, etc.) but it's in the Inquisition and politicking that we see the most deadly impulses. Historically the church was less about religion and more about unadulterated power.
    This, your honest comment is just another reminder that absolute power corrupts absolutely.

    However, to demonise everyone who has a liberal faith is just as wrong as ignoring the abuses of power. Many priests and nuns have devoted their lives to charitable work, as have their parishioners. The correlation between faith and charitable giving has always been high. I have friends who have horror stories about Catholic schools and a friend who so loved the nuns who taught her that she traveled the legenth of Ireland to personally thank the woman who "changed my life."

    As with all things, generalising isn't particularly helpful or valuable. All priests are not pedophiles and all atheists aren't magically right just because they've chosen atheism as a belief system (and despite protestations to the contrary, I've met some atheists who are greater zealots than people of faith).

    A lesson that we can extrapolate from your comment, is about the dangers of the masses caving into the corrupt few. If people dislike what their church is doing, and they know it's doing criminally wrong things, they must act to end the corruption or they become complicit in it.

    Having a conscience should not be tied to place (diocese of Oratory); it can and should be a more powerful force, because unlike the enigma of faith -- which is ephemeral and abstract--acting on one's conscience (holding pedophiles accountable, no matter how high up the ladder you go, holding war criminals accountable, no matter how high up the ladder you go) is about human agency and the ability to enact meaningful change.

    I pray for you brother and I ask you from afar to not do any harm to the faithful>

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  10. I have to add though that the church knowingly introduced a deepseated problem to its a managerial system since it took the Year 1123 decision to thwart a healthy human life by insisting on an abnormal psychology for priests, and nuns. But today for some Eastern rite Catholics there are, strangely, exceptions. You I feel are a victim of this system!

    In other words from a brother Priest in the Oratory society I say get a 'life', it is 2013, not 1123! Seek help if you dare!

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  11. Is Francis I a 'liberal' - I think yes and I think the hypocrites are getting sweaty betty!! They are all looking for the big rocks to hide under!!!!

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  12. Pope Francis, proposed a moratorium on “liberal,” "conservative" Church divisions.

    In First Things, William Doino goes about it very soberly. Some of my friends, however, when making the same case in less formal venues, succumb to a kind of desperation. “Move along, folks! Nothing to see here! Francis and Benedict are like two papal peas in a pod! Forget what the lamestream media says — if Francis joined a spin class, you wouldn’t be able to tell him from Pius XII!”

    But if we’re willing to use the term “liberal” to mean something besides “in tune with the post-Woodstock West,” it applies quite well to certain qualities Francis appears to possess in special abundance, or at certain least qualities he sees fit to put forward like a best foot.

    Psychologist Jonathan Haidt makes the case that “liberal” and “conservative,” “left” and “right,” refer to something more profound and less changeable than party preference. They reflect divergent moral foundations, or intuitive, sub-rational assumptions on what constitutes right and wrong. By analysing data obtained through questionnaires completed at www.YourMorals.com, Haidt, along with University of Virginia colleague Ravi Iyer, concluded that respondents who self-identified as “liberal” or “moderate” were especially likely to base their morality on a foundation of “care” and “fairness,” but less likely to value “loyalty,” “authority,” or “purity.”

    Self-described conservatives tended to value all of these more or less equally.

    It’s pretty plain that Francis has so far given priority to an ethic of care, or “sensitivity to the suffering and needs of others,” even when other values might urge a different course of action. He likes to tell the story about an elderly woman who cornered a young priest after Mass and asked for a blessing. With the best of intentions, the priest tried to catechise the lady, explaining that he’d already blessed the congregation during the Mass.

    Underwhelmed by his reasoning, the woman thanked him, then asked a blessing from another priest. To Francis, this story demonstrates that the woman’s real need was not a lesson in theology, but “to be touched by the Lord,” and he sees no problem in catering to it. Hence the difference between the diocese of D&C & the Oratory Society!

    As for in-group loyalty, which “rewards team players and ostracises those who betray the group,” Francis has tended to ignore it or even dismiss it outright.

    A line from the encyclical Lumen Fidei generally attributed to Francis maintains that “Anyone who sets on the path of doing good is already drawing near to God,” and Francis has stressed that this “anyone” includes atheists.

    Michael Sean Winters observes that he “does not focus on the sins of men” but “on the mercies of God.”

    But it may be at the hurdle of “authority,” or “sensitivity to signs of rank or status, and to when someone is not behaving according to his status,” that Francis really stumbles. When D&C warn the people about us 'liberals' it is like the Curia warning the people, “There has to be some distance between the general crowds and the Holy Father,” are they expressing concern for Francis’ or the peoples physical safety?

    As many have pointed out, not all of this “liberal” behaviour is unique to Francis. Pope Benedict once hosted a Christmas luncheon for homeless people, an act that seemed to favour care over purity. But in Haidt’s model for moral reasoning, intuition precedes and can even dominate reason, and according to the intuitive judgment of many, Francis is consciously tweaking the tone of the papacy. On the whole, at least for the time being, the new tone is finding a wildly enthusiastic, even ecstatic response.

    D&C's disgruntled right-wingers in time may come around themselves. As “[Francis] will have to care for them, too.”

    Poor babies, of course Francis will care for them.

    Oratory Priest

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  13. Dear Down and Connor priest a short reply to your answer to my post,first of all you refer to "you lot" I am not a member of The Oratory Society,you seem to be very hung up on titles!I wonder what kind of cars you and your fellow clergy drive,rather than deal with the substantive issue you carp on about the petty.The size of your clerical ego must be a heavy burden,again I ask you to reflect on the qualities needed to be an ordained minister of Gods word,not for my sake but for your own.Mike

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