Thursday, 1 August 2013

ANONYMOUS ABUSIVE COMMENT - PROBABLY BY PRIEST

ANONYMOUS ABUSIVE COMMENT - POSSIBLE BY PRIEST


THE COMMENT BELOW WAS SUBMITTED TO MY BLOG:

"The proper way to describe you, Mr Buckley, is not "rebel" or "maverick" but APOSTATE former priest"

O DEAR. WE DO SEEM TO HAVE HIT A NERVE!

WHEN YOU WERE BEING "EDUCATED" WERE YOU NEVER TOLD THAT WHEN YOU ATTACK A MAN PERSONALLY AND NOT HIS ARGUMENTS YOU HAVE LOST THE ARGUMENT?

AS FOR "APOSTATE":

WAS FATHER BRENDAN SMYTH WHO RECEIVED A FULL CLERGY FUNERAL AND HAD "REVEREND" INSCRIBED ON HIS HEADSTONE - AN APOSTATE?
FATHER BRENDAN SMYTH

IS FATHER DANNY CURRAN - A LOYAL DOWN AND CONNOR PRIEST - PRESENTLY IN PRISON FOR CHILD ABUSE IN A DOWN AND CONNOR PARISH - AN APOSTATE?
FATHER DANIEL CURRAN AT ST PAUL'S PARISH FALLS ROAD

IS FATHER JAMES DONAGHY A LOYAL PRIEST OF DOWN AND CONNOR AND THE PARISH PRIEST OF BANGOR - AND A GOOD FRIEND OF BISHOP PADDY WALSH - CURRENTLY IN PRISON FOR CHILD ABUSE - AN APOSTATE?
FATHER JAMES DONAGHY PP, VF, - BANGOR

CARDINAL SEAN BRADY

IS CARDINAL SEAN BRADY - WHO INTERVIEWED ABUSED CHILDREN IN THE ABSENCE OF THEIR PARENTS AND SWORE THEM TO SECRECY AN APOSTATE?

IS CARDINAL KEITH O'BRIEN, WHO IS A PRODUCT OF THE CATHOLIC SCHOOLS OF DOWN AND CONNOR AND WHO SPECIALISED IN THE SEXUAL ABUSE OF SEMINARIANS AND YOUNG PRIESTS AN APOSTATE?
CARDINAL KEITH O'BRIEN AT THE 2012 EUCHARISTIC CONGRESS WITH DOWN AND CONNOR AUXILIARY BISHOP ANTHONY FARQUHAR



THE LIST IS ENDLESS. I COULD GO ON - AND CONTINUE SHOWING YOU SOME INTERESTING PICTURES.

IS THE GREATEST SIN IN YOUR ROMAN CATHOLIC - CANON LAW - WORLD VIEW THE SIN OF CHALLENGING CORRUPTION, HYPOCRISY AND ABUSE AMONG THE HIERARCHY AND CLERGY?

IS THAT A BIGGER SIN THAN ABUSING CHILDREN?

IS IT A BIGGER SIN THAN COVERING UP THE ABUSE OF CHILDREN?

IS POPE FRANCIS AN APOSTATE FOR WANTING TO CLEAN UP THE CORRUPT VATICAN?

YOU MAY CALL ME WHAT YOU WISH - MR; REBEL; MAVERICK; APOSTATE

BUT YOU CANNOT TAKE AWAY THE THE GRACE OF PRIESTHOOD I RECEIVED ON THE 6TH JUNE 1976 - PENTECOST SUNDAY.

YES I AM IN A SENSE A "FORMER PRIEST" SINCE ON THE 19TH MAY 1998 I BECAME A VALIDLY ORDAINED CATHOLIC BISHOP - BUT NOT A MEMBER OF YOUR PRECIOUS ROMAN CATHOLIC HIERARCHY.

AS THEY SAY IN BELFAST - BUILD A BRIDGE - AND GET OVER IT.

Bishop Pat 1.8.2013


20 comments:

  1. I am a gay man from Belfast. I was on Gaydar one night and another gay man was naked on his webcam. we arranged to meet. when we did meet and have sex he told me he was a priest of Down and Connor diocese. Being brought up a Catholic I was horrified that I had sex with a priest. I will not name that priest on here but I have sent his name and pics to Bishop Buckley at his email address.

    Disillusioned Gay Catholic

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    1. My Friend,

      Thank you for your email.

      I am sorry that you feel so disillusioned. But please do not confuse the human weakness or indeed "badness" of some priests and your relationship with God.

      There are very good priests in Down and Connor. There are even some very good gay priests in Down and Connor.

      There are also some very cynical and devious priests in the diocese who get those other good priests a bad name.

      I'm glad you still pray. We have Mass here in Larne every Sunday at 12. You and your partner would be most welcome here.

      Always remember that God loves you passionately and that He blesses the love that you and your partner have found in each other.

      Keep in touch.

      Bishop Pat

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  2. I was shocked to read the abusive comment above.

    I am a lady teacher and when the then Father Pat Buckley was in St Peter's Cathedral I had become involved in a relationship with a priest. As a Catholic I felt very conflicted about the sexual side of our relationship. I went to speak to Father Pat. He did not judge me or my priest. His main advice was that the priest and I should talk deeply about every aspect of the relationship and have a comprehensive and holistic approach to our involvement.

    At the time my priest was very immature and did not want to talk. He just wanted to be in bed a lot. He refused to talk to Father Pat and was very angry that I had.

    I know nothing about apostates. All I know is that when I needed a kind priest Pat Buckley was there for me. There was literally no one else I could have talked to.

    Older and Wiser

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    1. Thank you for commenting. I remember you well and have often wondered how you were doing.

      Sometime you are free give me a call and maybe we can meet for a coffee and a long overdue catch up.

      Pat

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  3. Pat, God Bless your ministry of TRUTH - the people who throw that mud, legal names etc at you are people living in shadows and people with a lot to fear from the light shining!!!

    Expose the hypocrisy, not to hurt but to build up and support the 'people of God' from the serious professional lies in Lisbreen and other houses in this diocese and beyond!

    A reformed, but NEVER former Catholic!

    P.S. You hold the fullness of Priesthood Pat, God Bless you for your service.

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    1. Thank you for your comment and encouragement.

      Please do not think for a moment that I am making any claims to being perfect or special. As a person I am one of the "walking wounded". As a priest I am a "wounded healer".

      I agree with you that the nastiness being flung is from people who do not acknowledge their woundedness and do not have compassion for their fellow wounded.

      The biggest problem in the clergy seems to be this awful cynical nastiness. Only God can release these "prisoners" from that.

      Pat

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  4. I am a D&C priest who happens to be "gay" - although I'm not sure I like that tag. I have commented on here before.

    Pat - I am confused as to whether or not all the things you are saying are helpful and healing?

    I know that among a small number of my priest brothers in the diocese there is an "irrational" hatred of you.

    Most of the rest of us are just deeply sorry that you are where you are - and we acknowledge at this stage - that you did not put yourself there.

    What we cannot understand is why you are where you are. You did nothing wrong except get on CB Daly's nerves. How I wish he had ignored you and let you be and now you would be a diocesan pp like the rest of us.

    I hope Noel and the powers that be in the diocese can do something to sort all this out.If the so called Troubles can be sorted out why not Pat and D&C?

    I have no power to do anything. I have made my views known to other clergy.

    Now I just pray and hope.

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    1. My Brother,

      Thank you for your comments - delivered with rationality and charity.

      God knows what happened - what is happening and what will happen.

      To me that is the most important "fact" of all.

      Pat

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  5. As a thinking Christian I wonder if the professional God Men & Women - those in canonical 'good standing', know anything of Scripture or is that just for the public face whilst reading the Gospel at Mass!!

    Most of the time the Messiah, Son of God does not interfere in our
    personal and national (Catholic Ireland)lives. But sometimes when things get out of hand he breaks into history in what the Old Testament prophets called a "Day of the Lord" (Isaiah 13:6, 9, 22:5, 34:8, Jeremiah 46:10, Joel 1:15, 2:1, Amos 5:18, as in 1 Thessalonians 5:2). Isaiah often shortened the expression to "that day" (Isaiah 7:18-23, 10:20, 11:10-11, 17:4, 7, etc.) as Paul does (1 Corinthians 1:8, 3:13).

    Such interventions were also called 'comings of the Lord'(Genesis
    11:5, 18:21, Exodus 6:1, 12:12, Isaiah 13:6,9, 19:1, 31:4, 40:10,
    Zechariah 14:1, 5, as in Matthew 21:40, 24:27, 30, 37, 42, 50,
    Revelation 2:5, 16, 25, 3:11) In each case there was terrible wrath(bad consequences) for some, but for others redeeming, deliverance, or vindication (Exodus 12:51, 15:6-7, Isaiah 34:8, 52:9). The 'day of the Lord' of Babylon's destruction (539 BC) is pictured with portents in the sun (emperor), moon (empress), stars (dignitaries), foundations shaking (PEOPLE IN GOOD CANONICAL STANDING)-(Isaiah 13:6, 9, 10, 13).

    Jesus used exactly the same words to describe his own Day of the Lord coming in the generation of his hearers (AD 70) to destroy the temple in the city of Jerusalem(Matthew 24:28-30). In the history of each city similar days can be seen to occur from time to time.

    And after a Day of the Lord things are never the same again!!

    Bishop Pat, you knock down in order to build up, as a Christian I describe your ministry as a painful but fruitful and prophetic ministry. God's protection be on you and around you.

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    1. An excellent comment - with enough scripture comments to keep us all in meditation.

      I am glad that some truly educated people are making such rational and well informed comments.

      Pat

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  6. The Files in Lisbreen:

    There is not one case in the Bible where wrath involves eternal damnation. Wrath is the ordinary word for the assigning of bad consequences in this life. There is the wrath of a lion when it is provoked. An individual is full of wrath when he or she is crossed. In his reign the Son of God also assigns wrath consequences for unacceptable behaviour among nations (Churches) or individuals.

    The ten commandments given by Moses (Exodus 20:1-17) give us the main categories of human behaviour that will inevitably have bad consequences:
    Viewing some person or deity, other than the Son of God, as the supreme authority in one’s life is always disastrous.
    Idolatry is replacing the worship of the Creator with devotion to an image or statue, and it has long term consequences in a family. "You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I the LORD your God am a jealous God punishing children for the iniquity of parents to the third and fourth generation of those who reject me." .
    Another cause of divine wrath is misusing the name of the LORD to support deceit, like hiding or sending files of abuse via 'diplomatic pouch' to the Vatican!
    Murder, adultery, stealing and bearing false witness in a court of law, can all be seen to harm individuals and the society they live in. And the last of the ten commandments warns of the wrath consequences of struggling to grab what others are given to enjoy.

    There are also forms of behaviour in a nation (Church) that are obnoxious to the Son of God. He is particularly angry when widows, orphans, aliens, and poor people are badly treated. "You shall not wrong or oppress a resident alien. You shall not abuse any widow or orphan If you do abuse them, when they cry out to me, I will surely heed their cry; my wrath will burn" (Exodus 22:23; 23:6,9; Deuteronomy 10:17-19, as reiterated again and again in the Old Testament prophets, see Psalm 82:1-4; 94:5-7). Any attempt to enslave other nations (Churches) and bring them under our control will eventually be judged and punished.

    The opposite of wrath is blessing. When people are upright and care for others, many blessings are promised. In the New Testament love, joy, peace, and other beautiful fruits are promised when we turn from attempts to perfect ourselves by our own efforts to be transformed by the Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-25, see Romans 8:4-14).

    Finally we note that wrath and blessing are the consequences of certain kinds of behaviour in this life. Their purpose is to help us to turn and welcome the love of God. That is why it is possible for a person whose heart is looking forward to being finally perfected in God’s heaven to suffer the LORD’s wrath in this life.
    Some of the bad consequences are the result of wrong behavior in our nation (Church). Others are caused by alcoholism, drug addiction, sexual immorality, greed, rejecting a day of rest, irresponsible behaviour, and rejecting the wisdom and empowerment of the Holy Spirit. Such persons may suffer terrible wrath consequences in this life while their heart is indeed looking to the Son of God.

    In any case the solution is first to set our heart direction firmly in the direction of the love of God. Secondly we should seek to understand the causes of the wrath that is ruining our life. As we see the causes of what is going wrong, we then turn to the Holy Spirit for wisdom and transformation in the direction of blessing.

    A Catholic praying for REFORM in our NATION/CHURCH - Come Holy Spirit, may SHE transform us!

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  7. The word "apostasy" comes from the Greek apostasia, which is translated "falling away" in 2 Thessalonians 2:3. The word is closely related to the Greek word for "divorce."

    Apostates are those who fall away from the true faith (NOT CATHOLIC FAITH), abandoning what they formerly professed to believe. The term describes those whose beliefs are so deficient as to place them outside the pale of true Christianity. For example, a liberal denomination that denies the authority of Scripture or the deity of Christ is an apostate denomination.

    True Christians do not apostatise. Those who fall away into apostasy demonstrate that their faith was never real to begin with (1 John 2:19).

    Pat whoever wrote that comment about you being an apostate is theologically ignorant and a true 'Catholic Apologist' - ignorant to the core and lacking openess, love and compassion! Their day is coming. In fact it could be argued that the RC Church is in 'apostate' - a state of divorce from the MESSAGE of Jesus Christ, with its trappings of state (Vatican), diplomatic systems (Brown) and Bank (Vaticab Bank), not to mention the universal child abuse systems in place. It is 'Apostate' - just my opinion!

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    1. Most enlightening.

      I never fully understood apostasy before.

      You are right. I have not "fallen away" from my core christian/catholic faith. In fact it means more to me than ever now that I am free from Canon Law and have the true freedom of a son of God.

      I believe that the Roman Catholic Institution is indeed apostate - as it contradicts the Scriptures, "Tradition" properly understood and the Mind of Christ.

      I believe that Pope Francis thinks this too.

      Pat

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  8. Describing an aspect of apostasy and its underlying danger, A. W. Tozer wrote, "So skilled is error at imitating truth, that the two are constantly being mistaken for each another. It takes a sharp eye these days to know which brother is Cain and which is Abel."

    The apostle Paul also speaks to the outwardly pleasing behaviour of apostates and their teaching when he says, "For such men are false apostles, deceitful workers, disguising themselves as apostles of Christ. No wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light” (2 Corinthians 11:13-14). They dress in the dress trust (Religious Dress), but then they do their evil deeds (abuse and rape of young people all over the world).

    In other words, do not look for apostates to appear bad on the outside or speak dramatic words of heresy, they are often they very ones leading the community, Mass, diocese, Church offices - their real 'divorce' from Christ is in private! Rather than denying truth outright, apostates will twist it to fit their own agenda, as R. C. Lensky has noted, “The worst forms of wickedness consist in perversions of the truth.”

    Thinking Reformed Catholic.

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  9. Ultimately, the sign of an apostate is that he eventually falls away and departs from the truth of Sacred Scripture and Tradition. (Abuse of children, slave labour and abuse in laundries, the hiding of files of truth, murder, unmarked graves, money laundering, the protection and hiding place of the crime and criminals - to mention but a few things).

    The apostle John signifies this is a mark of a false believer: “They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us” (1 John 2:19).

    Now, who is the APOSTATE??

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  10. I'm not sure what an apostate is & I will look it up. What I am sure of is that the Code of Canon Law is the is the curse of the modern church. Can canon law be challenged in the same way that civil law can? Just a thought...

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  11. Pat, I can just imagine the writer of the article. A poor misguided clerical soul living out his life in quiet desperation in a small room of a parochial house somewhere hoping that his talents will be recognised by the gang up in Lisbreen.He probably feels that lashing out at you will give him some sense of smug satisfaction. Perhaps he feels that by mentioning it to a well connected cleric his act of bravado will reach the ears of the Somerton Road brigade and will score a point or two for him among the boys with the pointy hats. Poor soul!! Unless his face fits and he's a member of the Garron Tower mafia then this time next year no matter how many times he attacks you (or anybody else for that matter)he will still be in a wee room at the back of a chapel house somewhere lol

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    1. Its hard to believe that anyone is living like that in 2013.

      If its true it makes me feel amazingly sad.

      I want to say to him: "Lazarus come forth"

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  12. A FALL FROM HIS GRACE !!! I wonder if Bishop Tony Farquhar met Cardinal O Brien today would he pose for another photo or would he do a Dione Warwick - Walk on by !

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