Sunday, 25 August 2013

BISHOP CIARAN BROADBERY IS NOW A HOMEOPATH IN KERRY

BISHOP CIARAN BROADBERY IS NOW A HOMEOPATH IN KERRY
BISHOP CIARAN BROADBERY


BISHOP CIARAN BROADBERY AND THE BROADBERY FAMILY RECENTLY CAME BACK INTO THE HIGHLIGHT WHEN THE FAMILY HEAD - MRS CATHERINE BROADBERY (RIP) DIED AND HER DAUGHTER PUBLISHED A GLOWING TRIBUTE TO HER MOTHER IN THE IRISH TIMES.
CATHERINE BROADBERY (RIP)



CATHERINE, LIKE MY OWN MOTHER, JO, HAD A VERY LARGE FAMILY. MY MOTHER HAD 17 CHILDREN. CATHERINE WENT ONE BETTER AND HAD 18 BABIES. TWO OF HER CHILDREN TRAGICALLY PREDECEASED HER.




THE BROADBERYS WERE A VERY RELIGIOUS FAMILY AND AS DEVOUT CATHOLICS THEY HAD GREAT DEVOTION TO THE VIRGIN MARY.


THEY LIVED IN DUBLIN FOR A WHILE AND BISHOP CIARAN BROADBERY ATTENDED SCHOOL AT THE MARIAN COLLEGE IN BALLSBRIDGE IN DUBLIN.

EVENTUALLY THEY MOVED TO WEXFORD WHERE THEY SEEMED TO RUN A CHIP SHOP IN GOREY.

IT SEEMS TO BE ABOUT THE TIME THAT THEY MOVED TO WEXFORD THAT THE BROADBERYS BECAME INVOLVED WITH THE TRIDENTINE CHURCH BASED IN SEVILLE IN SPAIN.

THE FOUNDER OF THAT CHURCH WAS A SPANISH CATHOLIC CALLED CLEMENTE DOMINGUEZ Y GOMEZ. 

THE PALMARIAN CHURCH STARTED OUT AS A CHURCH VERY MUCH DEDICATED TO THE VIRGIN MARY AND GOMEZ CLAIMED TO HAVE VISIONS AND MESSAGES FROM OUR LADY.

IN 1975 GOMEZ WAS ORDAINED A PRIEST AND CONSECRATED A BISHOP BY THE VERY FAMOUS ARCHBISHOP PETER MARTIN NGO-DINH THUC WHO WAS FROM VIETNAM.
ARCHBISHOP THUC


ARCHBISHOP THUS WAS A CONSERVATIVE BISHOP WHO FAVOURED THE RETENTION OF THE LATIN MASS. FOR ORDAINING GOMEZ ARCHBISHOP THUC WAS CENSORED BY THE VATICAN BUT WAS LATER RECONCILED WITH ROME - FOR A WHILE.

ON THE 9TH JANUARY 1977 GOMEZ VALIDLY ORDAINED CIARAN BROADBERY AS A CATHOLIC PRIEST.

ONE MONTH LATER GOMEZ VALIDLY CONSECRATED CIARAN BROADBERY AS A CATHOLIC BISHOP.
BISHOP GOMEZ


BISHOP BROADBERY STAYED WITH THE PALMARIAN CHURCH FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND ON THE 27TH APRIL 1982 HE CONSECRATED MICHAEL COX AS A VALID CATHOLIC BISHOP.

EVENTUALLY THE BROADBERYS SEEMED TO DRIFT FROM THE PALMARIANS AND EVENTUALLY CIARAN BROADBERY AND HIS WIFE SUSAN BECAME MEMBERS OF THE RIGHT WING ROMAN CATHOLIC CULT - THE SO CALLED NEOCATECHUMENATE.

I DO NOT KNOW WHETHER OR NOT CIARAN AND SUSAN ARE STILL MEMBERS OF THAT CULT?

RUMOUR HAS IT THAT CIARAN BROADBERY ASKED THE BISHOP OF FERNS, BISHOP DONAL HERLIHY, A NICE MAN WHO HAD A VERY BAD DRINK PROBLEM, TO INTERCEED WITH ROME FOR HIM AND HAVE HIM "LAICISED" AS A BISHOP AND PRIEST.
BISHOP DONAL HERLIHY


NOBODY HAS EVER SEEN ANY EVIDENCE THAT THIS SO CALLED LAICISATION OCCURED AND GIVEN BISHOP HERLIHY'S DRINK PROBLEM THERE IS A VERY LARGE POSSIBILITY THAT THE MATTER NEVER GOT AS FAR AS ROME.

BISHOP CIARAN BROADBERY IS NOW A HOMEOPATH IN KERRY AND SO ALSO IS HIS WIFE SUSAN. YOU CAN VIEW THEIR PROFILE ON FACEBOOK.

A ROBUST DEFENCE OF THE VALIDITY OF THE THUC ORDINATIONS / CONSECRATIONS CAN BE FOUND ON THE INTERNET AT:

www.traditionalmass.org/articles/article.php?id=60&catname=13


40 comments:

  1. I am a long serving priest of Ferns Diocese and I knew the Broadberys.

    There is no way that Bishop Donal Herlihy would have become involved in anyway with the Broadberys.

    The rumour that Dr Herlihy arranged Ciaran Broadbery's laicisation is simply that - a rumour.

    PP - Ferns

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  2. God Bless Bishop Broadberry, he gave Ireland an alternative, non-canonical or trapped 'apostolicity'! Thank you so much for your courage as a young man - good, honest and thinking Catholics have an alternative to the narrow, controlled and oppressive system of the Romans.

    Prays for the Broadberry's & their family.

    Tinking and FREE Catholic

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  3. I worked for Bishop Brendan Comiskey who succeeded Dr Herlihy as Bishop of Ferns. Bishop Comiskey told me personally that Dr Herlihy DID NOT arrange Ciaran Broadbery's lay process.

    I also think it is very unfair to keep bringing up Dr Herlihy's struggle with alcohol.

    Faithful to Pope and Church - Barnstown, Wexford.

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    1. Seems to me that a struggle with alcohol is a prerequisite for the episcopal seat of Ferns!!

      Fair or unfair - lets look at the evidence!

      Faithful to Conscience & Scripture.

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    2. Faithful to Conscience and Scripture,

      Your comment is very unchristian to say the least and does not merit further comment!

      However, in saying all of this, I support the priest of our church, I support all the sacrifice and struggle. I also support the alternatives that are valid means to the same end.

      I just wish that you would stop tearing each other apart! We ordinary Catholics need support and leadership.

      Wexford Town

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    3. Drink Fek! I did not know Bishop Herlihy. If he had a drink problem it is neither negative or positive but part of who the man was. As I often said before the problem with the RC Church is Canon Law that has not evolved for centuries. We have the Pharisees & Saducees in Scripture & in Rome we got the Wigs in Skirts (& posh cologne-Vatican smells like a duty free shop in the airport) Bishop Broadbery is something of an anomoly like a cart without a horse. People with genuine concerns about socalled mainstream R catholicism should unite in a positive way. I wish the anonymous shadows would put a name to their faces. However, once the hand is put to the plough..... I wonder if Church of Ireland would be up for a few converts. Problem with Ireland I believe is that it has a monochrome vision of Christian Church denominations. Fr Ted Sean

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    4. Pure opinion and hot air Fr Ted Sean. How can I leave RC for the CofI! I am not political and if you ever walk into the CofI buildings they are heavily political. I am stuck!!!

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    5. There is opinion, guess & judgement. I was in the the vatican & smelled the smells & rang the bells. I'm not sure what the Cofl is but yes the Vatican is political hence Stato Citta del Vaticano. I agree you are stuck but so were the ancient Jews until Jesus came. Thank you for taking the time to reply to my comment. Sean

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  4. As an ordinary Catholic I have to say that I would rather have the Bishops and priests of this society as they have no criminal past.

    Everytime I see my own Bishop I and many are constantly asking ourselves - What do they know? What have they covered up? What have THEY done?

    Then we feel guilty and pray for our thoughts, but we continue to repeat this way of thinking!

    It is an awful state of affairs. I really think we need Catholic alternatives and we need to support any good work that is being done. We need to help each other.

    A Catholic Mother

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    1. Concentrate on Christ not on the misdemeanours! Has Catholicism become a game of chess where God, Scripture & Jesus Christ are becoming further down the list of Church priorities. Did you know that Wicka is one of the 10 fastest growing religions in the UK & no wonder. People are praying about the Magick of the Sun Moon & nature. Have we regressed that far after all Jesus revealed? Of course wrongdoing should be addressed & there are civil & police agencies to investigate such eventualities. There are no alternatives Jesus is the WAY TRUTH & LIFE for the Christian. It is the Denominations who claim to have the monopoly on the "God Franchise" who have sadly lost the way although they have been gifted with the Revalation of what Christ did, left & promiced. Sean

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  5. Ferns is a wonderful diocese, wonderful people and wonderful clergy. Well done, you have all been to hell and back, enjoy community with each other. God Bless.

    Down & Connor PP

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  6. I knew Mrs Broadberry and her family. They were devout Catholics who believed in the Latin Mass as I do. Our Blessed Lady has been appearing to many people asking for the purification of Her Son's Holy Church - Lourdes, Fatima, Knock, Palma de Troy and so on. The new Mass has brought confusion and disrespect. I would advise people to attend the Latin Mass. I go to the Latin Mass in Dublin recognised by Archbishop Martin.

    Bernadette

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    1. There is no "New Mass" Mass is Mass both table fellowship & sacrifice. I have been to a latin mass the other day. It was a Requiem for a deceased neighbour. It was totaly appropriate for what it was. Latin Mass focuses on the transcendent God-but God's presence is also immanent-The Word became flesh & dwelt among us. To emphasise one aspect to the detrament of the other is to miss the point like using headphones with sound only in one ear. I'm sure too our Blessed Mother wants God's will to be done. The fact is that God has already spoken through his Son. The challenge for us is to take his message to heart fully or ignore it. The saints including Mary are our colleagues & our inspiration. There is no need for any saint to re reveal what Jesus already has said & done. They could not possibly do a better job & to try would be a contradiction in terms. Sean

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  7. Bishop Pat,

    I am a canon lawyer in Canada and I am finding your Blog very interesting. A lot of topics that cannot be discussed elsewhere make the light of day here.

    On the question of Ciaran Broadbery. When I did my canon law degree in Rome we actually discussed the Thuc consecrations. Our professor there insisted that the Thuc consecrations are 100% valid - even if unlawful in canon law.

    In fact he told us that when Broadbery was reduced to the lay state he was given the normal instruction that all such clerics receive - that he had the solemn obligation, under pain of mortal sin, to offer the sacraments "in danger of death" if no other priest is present.

    Ciaran Broadbery was simply removed from the "clerical state". In other words he is no longer a cleric. But that process made no difference to the sacraments he received at the hands of Dr Thuc.

    In sacramental theology Ciaran Broadbery is still a priest and bishop and will always be.

    Best wishes to the Emerald Isle from those of us in the Maple Nation.

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    1. Thank you. I do not often hear from canon lawyers - and when I do its not positive :-)

      Pat

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    2. IN DANGER OF DEATH AGAIN! When will Canon Law ever learn that God's Kingdom is on earth & not just in heaven. I thought the reformation addressed the indulgence fiasco & Religion as a get out of jail card for those near death. In my thinking a get out of jail card is against everything Jesus stood for. Sean

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  8. By the way I will email my details to you privately.

    If you are in Canada I would be interested in you conducting a seminar with my canon law students.

    We do not often get the chance to communicate with an independent Catholic bishop.

    Chow

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    1. Thank you. I got your details. I regularly visit friends outside Toronto.

      I will certainly let you know when I am coming next. I would find such a seminar fascinating.

      If you are in Ireland you are welcome at The Oratory - we have a number of guest rooms.

      Pat

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  9. No matter what the state of Broadberry the simple fact is that he is a coward. He allowed the Romans to bully him into this situation of signing a piece of paper to say that all is well, that he is 'lay'!

    He had the great grace of a vocation and a calling; did this just disappear when he shared a drink in Summerhill and sacrificed his vocation?

    Question I would ask is - How much did they pay him? What was the price Broadberry?

    He betrayed his vocation because some alcho signed a cheque! Ah by the way, we know that you got money to deny your vocation!!!

    Wexford 'man'!

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    1. Did he get more than an abuse victim, more than Sean Fortune's poor victims???

      Paul

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    2. I WOULD BE GREATLY SHOCKED AND SCANDALISED TO THINK THAT CIARAN BROADBERY TOOK MONEY IN RETURN FOR LAICISATION.

      IT IS SIMONY TO PAY FOR ORDINATION.

      IT MUST BE AT LEAST AS SERIOUS TO ACCEPT MONEY FOR ABANDONING ORDINATION.

      PERSONALLY I WOULD NEED TO HEAR THIS FROM CIARAN BROADBERY HIMSELF BEFORE BELIEVING IT :-(

      BISHOP PAT

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    3. The Neo-Cats protect and absolve him of everything, that is what cults do!! At least that is the rumour he got a nice cheque to sign his paper!!!

      Sad but needs qualified I think!!

      Wexford Man

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    4. I hope the good Bishop Broadberry did not do a Judas and take 30 pieces of silver!

      Awful stuff!

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    5. Well said Mr ? Rev Anonymous!

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  10. Simony is the sin of attempting to buy or sell an office of the Church or a sacrament, the opposite also applies, to stand down or not offer a sacrament for MONEY!

    The word "simony" does indeed come from the name Simon, but not from the name Simon Peter. It comes from the name of Simon the magician, who had heard the preaching of Philip in Samaria and had accepted baptism.

    In Acts 8:9-24 we find the account of this Simon, who offered money to Peter in exchange for the power to lay hands on people to confer the Holy Spirit.

    From Peter came an immediate and sharp rebuke. Ever since, the notion of buying an office of the Church or of buying grace has been referred to as simony.

    So when Broadberry accepted the cheque he was guilty of simony!

    Why I ask, why did he stoop so low?

    Concerned Irish Catholic

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    1. What about all the popes that got their jobs through wheeling dealing & politics? The Vatican City State is a remnant of those days. Rock on Simon! Sean

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  11. As a Catholic I say to Broadberry - give this money to charity!

    CCC 2121 - Simony is defined as the buying or selling of spiritual things.53 To Simon the magician, who wanted to buy the spiritual power he saw at work in the apostles, St. Peter responded: "Your silver perish with you, because you thought you could obtain God's gift with money!"54 Peter thus held to the words of Jesus: "You received without pay, give without pay."55 It is impossible to appropriate to oneself spiritual goods and behave toward them as their owner or master, for they have their source in God. One can receive them only from him, without payment.

    New Advent - It is thus unlawful to exchange ecclesiastical benefices by private authority, to accept any payment whatever for holy oils, to sell blessed rosaries or crucifixes. Such objects lose, if sold, all the indulgences previously attached to them (S. Cong. Of Indulg., 12 July, 1847).

    So if any blessed religious items are sold, (including vocation) then it's simony? You were a Bishop!!

    And if any unblessed religious items are sold, then it's not simony? If you were not a Bishop then you are fine????????

    Faithful to Church and Pope.

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  12. The wisdom from above is first of all pure, then peaceable, gentle, compliant, full of mercy and good fruits, without inconstancy or insincerity. And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace for those who cultivate peace.

    James 3:17-18

    God forgive Broadberry!!!!

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  13. (Acts 8:5-25)

    The sin of simony was considered a serious crime by the early church. The sin consisted of a person trying to pay for sacraments or specifically for offices within the hierarchy of the organised church, this included payment to stand down from a divine office and vocation!

    While the term simony had different meanings, it was most certainly considered a crime by the church. It is interesting when we look at the church during the medieval days and see how this sin seemed to be practiced by nearly the entire bishopric in the act of selling indulgences and not fulfiling their proper roles . They would go about selling these indulgences, proclaiming the forgiveness of sins for a fee.

    Perhaps it wasn’t considered simony by the clergy if they were the ones offering the forgiveness rather than a person coming and asking to purchase relief from sins. Perhaps Broadberry only accepted a gift and not payment to deny his vocation?

    Either way, it is a sin to sell something that is freely given by God, this includes a calling, a vocation and an office - vocation; priesthhod and office; Bishop!!!

    The term simony specifically refers to Simon here in this passage. Many people believe that this Simon is Simon Magus, noted from early church fathers as heretic in chief and primary founder of Gnosticism. The term magus refers to the greek word magooyo, or the practice sorcery, the same word for we get for magic or Maji.

    For years the church filled their coffers by selling forgiveness through indulgences, committing the same crime they were boldly declaring illegal, the sin of simony.

    Here we go, Broadberry continues the sin!!

    Theology Aware

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  14. Whereever you are on your walk with the Lord, if your heart isn’t right, there is always time to repent, believe, and freely receive.

    My thoughts

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  15. In The Desire of Ages, Ellen White describes the simplicity of the ordination of the twelve apostles. Beneath the sheltering trees of a mountainside, not far from the Sea of Galilee, Jesus gathered privately his twelve apostles. He desired to teach them in the sanctuary of nature, away from confusion and disturbing noises. In this setting of natural beauty, the first step was taken in the organization of the church (DA 290-291).

    "When Jesus had ended His instruction to the disciples, He gathered the little band close about Him, and kneeling in the midst of them, and laying His hands upon their heads, He offered a prayer dedicating them to His sacred work. Thus the Lord's disciples were ordained to the gospel ministry" (DA 296)

    The simplicity of this first ordination service is startling given its impact upon the future of the gospel proclamation. There is no costly temple, no dazzling rituals, no dignified guests in attendance. The order of service is unadorned and straightforward.

    Women would restore peace and justice to the Church.

    Joan
    Female Minister

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  16. It would seem that simony is not "an express will to buy or sell something spiritual or connected with a spiritual thing." Simony is heresy, since it is written (I, qu. i [Can. Eos qui per pecunias.]): "The impious heresy of Macedonius and of those who with him impugned the Holy Ghost, is more endurable than that of those who are guilty of simony: since the former in their ravings maintained that the Holy Spirit of Father and Son is a creature and the slave of God, whereas the latter make the same Holy Spirit to be their own slave. For every master sells what he has just as he wills, whether it be his slave or any other of his possessions." But unbelief, like faith, is an act not of the will but of the intellect, as shown above (Question 10, Article 2). Therefore simony should not be defined as an act of the will.

    St Thomas Aquinas

    Did he sell his vocation and office to the Romans?

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  17. It seems that it is lawful to give and receive money for spiritual actions. The use of prophecy is a spiritual action. But something used to be given of old for the use of prophecy, as appears from 1 Samuel 9:7-8, and 1 Kings 14:3. Therefore it would seem that it is lawful to give and receive money for a spiritual action.

    Summa Theologica

    This includes the spiritual act of seeling ones vocation.

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    1. On the contrary, It is stated (I, qu. i [Can. Quidquid invisibilis]): "It is absolutely forbidden to make a charge for what is acquired by the consolation of invisible grace, whether by demanding a price or by seeking any kind of return whatever." Now all these spiritual things are acquired through an invisible grace. Therefore it is not lawful to charge a price or return for them.

      Summa

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    2. How much is a Mass Card these days?

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  18. Broadberry clearly has a case to answer here or is the Church covering for this old sin?

    George

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  19. I am in no way a fan or otherwise of Ciaran broadberry but where is this talk of simony comming from,has anybody offered any sort of proof....wheres charity gone and what about innocent till proven guilty,lets not turn a really good forum into a slagging shop.mike

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  20. All this debate is a load of old cobblers. Church law, canon law etc is a load of meaningless man made twaddle. A waste of space and effort. My life is so so simple. No religion. I wake in the morning and say God, another day. Whatever your will for me today I will try and do. At night I spend a few minutes saying thanks God. That was a good day or the day was a real bummer. That wee relationship with God which is very personal has seen me through births deaths trials tribulations and joys. keep it simple stupid !

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    1. You hit the nail on the head. If you get the chance read The Didache. While probably it is no definitive text on the Divine, it takes less than 20 minutes to read and shows show simple the credo was for early Christians. What I personally found interesting was the room for things to be interpreted or followed as suited the occasion. They obviously felt that understanding God was more than any particular dogma might attempt to impose. On apostles and prophets (11.4 - 11.6) what was interesting was most interesting.

      Colman

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  21. Anyone know Vincent Dalton or Fr calixto? He is living in Dublin but is very reclusive.

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