Tuesday, 22 April 2014

SEEKING RESPONSE FROM BISHOP WAKIMA - UGANDA -

SEEKING RESPONSE FROM BISHOP WAKIMA

Bishop Charles Wakima
Yesterday on this Blog I wrote about the accusation from Melanie Nathan that Bishop Charles Wakima of the Diocese of Jinja in Uganda had called for a genocide of gays in Uganda during his Easter message.
Melanie Nathan

Many correspondents to this Blog have quite rightly suggested that the bishop's alleged comments needed to be checked and clarified.

As a result I have today - after great difficulty - finally made personal contact with Bishop Wakima and told him of the accusations against him and where they have come from.

The bishop has given me his email address and I have sent him a full copy of the allegations and have asked for his response and have assured him that his response would be published FULLY and in an UNCENSORED way on this Blog.

The bishop has promised me that he will do this and I await his reply and views.  

I have further let Melanie Nathan know that the bishop completely denies her assertions.

I have asked Melanie Nathan to clarify.

The most important thing is that we all know the TRUTH about this.

The story has gone viral with more than 4,500+ hits on Facebook

+Pat Buckley
22.4.2014


12 comments:

  1. I agree that the Bishop denies the allegations. He sounded rather surprised - or even appalled - when I spoke to him.

    I am appalled that this story has gone viral and been disseminated before it was checked.

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  2. MESSAGE SENT TO MELANIE NATHAN BLOG

    Bishop Pat Buckley April 22, 2014 at 9:32 AM #
    Melanie,

    I am Bishop Pat Buckley from Northern Ireland and I carried your story yesterday about Bishop Wakami in my BLOG http://www.wisecatholic.blogspot.com calling for “gay genocide” in his Easter message.

    Initially I did not credit you for the story – SORRY – but immediately corrected that when you twittered me.

    I spoke to Bishop Wakami today on the telephone and he denies your story completely.

    Can you provide us with back up and verification for your story?

    +Pat Buckley

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  3. MELANIE NATHAN HAS RESPONDED TO ME AS FOLLOWS:

    Also seeing as you were able to make contact – perhaps he would put it in writing to me that he did not say those words. And also perhaps he would go a step further and decry the Jails for Gays for Life Bill in writing to me. It would also be helpful if he would speak out against his clergy colleagues in Uganda who made similar remarks and who were reported in the ugandan Monitor. Thank you for going to this effort.

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    1. Melanie,

      He did tell me verbally by telephone that he did not say those words.

      I am waiting for his written response.

      Before we go any further and ask him to coment on any other issues we need to clarify - FROM YOU - that he did say those words.

      Can you please clarify your source and its dependability for me?

      Pat

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    2. I wish you the best of luck, Pat. Ms Nathan appears to believe that truth doesn't matter on blogs.

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    3. Btw - she also now has two people who say he didn't. Difference is: we have identified ourselves.

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  4. Objectivity is the key and as my dear old Mam used to say "the paper never refuses ink" Also did I hear right that David Cameron was called to task for calling England a Christian country. And so he should! Is not Her Majesty the Queen, Head of State and of the United Kingdom not a Christian. The UK is tolerant of all people of good will but should not deny its history. Would I be wrong in calling Iran a Muslim Country? Let the so called political correctness mob "fek off" get a life and learn to live in the real world. Sean

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  5. BELOW I INCLUDE MELANIE NATHAN'S RESPONSES TODAY ON HER BLOG ABOUT HER ACCUSATIONS AGAINST BISHOP WAKAMI

    He is NOT telling the truth. Ask for a broadcast of his sermon. Ask for a written declaration condemning Jail the gays Bill. Ask him if he has ever given public thanks for The Anti-Homosexuality Act? Ask him if he is willing to speak out against all those in in the Ugandan Monitor who spoke out at Easter against Gays and praised the Bill. If he is willing to do all that you would have proved my sources wrong and/or he would be making amends to Uganda’s persecuted GAY community, LOL sure he denied it!!

    Also seeing as you were able to make contact – perhaps he would put it in writing to me that he did not say those words. And also perhaps he would go a step further and decry the Jails for Gays for Life Bill in writing to me.

    I don’t trust him. I trust my sources who were there.

    Of course he denied it. Did you ask him to make a statement against Jailing Gays for Life?

    Thank you Pat. I have 2 people who heard him say these words. I expected him to deny the story as there was no recording. Did he deny thanking the President? Did he deny expressing gratitude for getting rid of gays in Jinja?” Or did he deny his intent to incite Genocide. I have it [...]

    Also seeing as you were able to make contact – perhaps he would put it in writing to me that he did not say those words. And also perhaps he would go a step further and decry the Jails for Gays for Life Bill in writing to me. It would also be helpful if he would speak out against his clergy colleagues in Uganda who made similar remarks and who were reported in the Ugandan Monitor. Thank you for going to this effort.

    Thank you Pat. I have 2 people who heard him say these words. I expected him to deny the story as there was no recording. Did he deny thanking the President? Did he deny expressing gratitude for getting rid of gays in Jinja?” Or did he deny his intent to incite Genocide. I have it from 3 sources that he used the words expressed. Perhaps he can provide a recording of his entire speech? I was sure he would deny it.

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  6. He wasn't the only one...

    Several churches in eastern Uganda praised President Museveni in their Easter sermons for assenting to the anti-gays law in February.

    In Tororo District, Bishop Emmanuel Obbo, the Archbishop of Tororo Archdiocese, urged every citizen who supported the anti-homosexuality law to lay down greed, corruption and “put them to death and let generosity rise up within us and flow out in abundance.” He said “In Christ, we have victory over dysfunctional relationships, bad habits, painful experiences, sexual temptation and devastating circumstances.”

    The Bishop of Mbale Diocese, the Rt Rev Patrick Gidudu, said President Museveni made Ugandans proud by defying international pressure, including from several donors.“His courage gives us hope against the forces of resistance. We know that this legislation will protect society and the youth from homosexuality which is abominable in Africa,” Bishop Gidudu said.

    In Kapchorwa District, the Rt Rev Augustine Salimo, the Bishop of Sebei, in reference to the Anti-Homosexual Act, urged the government not to back down but to continue the right path pursued to protect values of Ugandans.

    Pastor Andrew Mutengu of the Word of Faith Church, urged Christians to pray for the nation, saying the anti-homosexuality law puts the country in danger after it triggered aid cut. “We need to stand by the President in prayer to help our country stand without aid,” he said.

    Wake Up Ministries Pastor Martin Nangoli said, “Our dear President did us proud by signing the anti-gays Bill into law," and added, “Above all, we must know that any society that wants to grow with social values must protect the family. We must discard homosexuality to protect marriages,” he added.

    http://stopugandanantihomosexualitybill.blogspot.co.uk/

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  7. It was extremely irresponsible to spread these allegations from someone who quite clearly has an agenda against the Church. Ms. Nathan wasn't at the mass so this is hearsay at best.

    The "article" contains almost none of the actual words spoken by the bishop and the supposed "call to genocide" apparently comes from these words (which were some of the few quoted):

    "...lay down greed, corruption and put them to death and let generosity rise up within us and flow out in abundance."

    This was evidence of a call to genocide?! The bishop is calling the congregation to put to death their feelings of greed and corruption... not homosexuals! Ridiculous.

    Why would you post this story without corroboration or investigation? You immediately side with the homosexual activist spreading rumours. Are blog hits more important to you than the body of Christ? It's no wonder Pope Francis has spoken out multiple times already about the evils of gossip. Maybe you should pay attention!

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  8. Dear Pat,
    I totally agree that we discover the truth.
    I noticed this issue has been posted several times on the Facebook accounts of a few gay friends and was quite alarmed at the detail and the content of the words 'supposedly' spoken by this bishop. If these words were spoken then it's a serious issue that the Vatican will need to address. If these words were not spoken, then it's just as serious because the GLBT people in Uganda need legitimate and trustworthy voices to defend them again the rising tide of Anti-gay laws that are being legislated in Uganda - What they don't need is LGBT activists making false claims about LBGT abuses in Uganda as this weakens the strength of LGBT activists and strengthens right winged governments who believe that LGBT persons are a danger to society.
    At the end of the day, the high profile of your blog has draw attention to this issue and i'm sure the truth of what was said will become clear. At the moment I don't know who to believe... Did the Bishop say these words or did he not?? If i were Bishop Wakima and did n't say these things then i'd be urgently wanting to prove that i didn't say these words by producing a copy of my sermon and/or releasing an official statement letting everyone to see that as a bishop he would never use such hate filled words. I hope the bishop isn't being arrogant in the old clerical manner of 'I hear your but i'm not listening to you!'
    Edmund, Oban.

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  9. You should of done this in the first place instead of "assuming" it happened. For this reason alone I wouldn't read this blog on a regular basis.

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