Monday, 8 August 2016

MAYNOOTH'S SECRET DOCUMENT

MAYNOOTH'S SECRET DOCUMENT

MAYNOOTH PRESIDENT - MAYNOOTH
THE MAYNOOTH PRESIDENT, Mgsr Hugh Connolly said explicitly on RTE Radio that Maynooth seminarians do not sign a confidentiality document - they only sign a Register!

Yesterday afternoon an ex seminarian telephoned me to contradict what Hugh Connolly said and called his a liar and a deceiver!

This seminarian - we will call him LUKE - entered Maynooth in the not too distant part with a number of other seminarians - 24 of them.

After they settled into Maynooth Hugh Connolly got them together in St Mary's Oratory in Maynooth. This gathering happened on Friday 9th November 2007.

For ther ceremony Hugh Connolly lit the candles - making it a quasi liturgical ceremony.

There were 24 chairs - one for each seminarian and at the top there was a chair and a table for Connolly.

On each of the 24 chairs there was a piece of paper.

On that piece of paper was laid out the various things that they were signing into.

Among those things on the sheet of paper were:




THE UNDERTAKING TO OBEY DILIGENTLY THE RULES OF THE COLLEGE AND TO NOT ENGAGE IN TALK THAT WOULD UNDERMINE THE COLLEGE

NOT TO LEAD OTHER SEMINARIANS TOWARDS CONTEMPT OR VIOLENCE 

NOT TO SPEAK ABOUT ANYTHING SEEN, HEARD OR EXPERIENCE IN THE COLLEGE

TO ACCEPT AND AGREE WITHOUT QUESTIONB TO BEING ASKED TO LEAVE BY THE MAYNOOTH STAFF OR BISHOPS. 

THE TITLE OF THE DOCUMENT WAS

ALLEGIANCE TO THE COLLEGE

These conditions amounted to a declaration that no matter they saw or heard in Maynooth or what they experienced they were bound NEVER to speak about it to anyone. 

This paper was read to them by Connolly and then he asked them, one by one, to approach the table where he was sitting with his fountain pen and sign their agreement to these conditions in the Register - a Register that looked like a big sacred book.

When they had all signed the Register Connolly went around the room and picked up everyone of the 24 bits of paper and counted them to make sure he had all 24.

The students were not given a copy of what they had signed up to.

They were then dismissed.

But one wily seminarian managed to retain a copy of this document and contacted me yesterday and read it to me.

So when Connolly said on RTE Radio that the students only signed a Register and no other bit of paper he was using, as a moral theologian, that despicable tool that in the Roman Catholic Empire MK 11 is called a MENTAL RESERVATION.

They did not sign a bit of paper.

They merely signed the Register.

But he NEVER mentioned the 24 bits of paper that were given out to the students which were carefully counted and then collected and counted again - and probably put in a safe to distribute to next year's group of VICTIMS !!!




Now we expect that kind of carry on and misinformation from the KGB, or from MI 5 or from the Israeli Mosad or indeed from present day ISIS.

But do we expect that from Christians?

Do we expect that from Christian ministers?

Do we expect that from priests.

Do we expect that from bishops?

Do we expect that from moral theologians?





"GET BEHIND ME SATAN" !!!



MAYNOOTH TRUSTEES CALL AN EMERGENCY MEETING IN FIVE WEEKS !!!!!!

Ireland's only self declared heterosexual bishop (Hot Press) Amy Martin - has announced that there will be an EMERGENCY meeting of the trustees of Maynooth in FIVE WEEKS.




Would the police, fire brigade or ambulance services get away with such responding times?

I suppose its different if you believe you are 2,000 years old ???





New signs on Maynooth walls today

FIRE

IF YOU SMELL SMOKE

BREAK GLASS AND PRESS RED BUTTON

FOR FIVE WEEKS



FATHER MARSDEN?

Why is Father Marsden's picture and contact details still on the PERSONNEL page of Maynooth when he walked out and resigned weeks ago?


 +353 (0)1 708 3643

Maybe some of you would contact him and ask him to clarify his position? He has been spoken of as a man of absolute integrity.

And we have no reason to doubt his absolute integrity.

BUT:

"For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do (and say) nothing".

92 comments:

  1. Can you get your hands on a verified copy of this piece of paper and verify its origin. Not that I am doubting the seminarian

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    1. Why don't you give a copy of that document to the media? It will show Connolly up clearly as a liar and untrustworthy.

      Where is Fr David Marsden in all this?

      Does he not have a responsibility to clarify matters around his sudden resignation?

      Why is he so silent?

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    2. I believe that Father Marsden has a huge MORAL RESPONSIBILITY to clarify things.

      I emailed him TWO WEEKS ago.

      No reply !!!

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    3. Fr Marsden should clarify his position for the sake of those seminarians who seem to respect him.

      He doesn't need to go through this blog. He could talk to someone like Sarah McDonald.

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  2. The above version of events is correct. I was a first year seminarian present on that night. It was called "The Signing of the Register".

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  3. So far we have..

    King Puck - we have a picture of him in a jockstrap yet no one is talking about that? Will this man be ordained???

    HorneyAndyX - we have incriminating pictures of him. Yet no one is speaking about that???

    Brendan- his name has been cleared after that misunderstanding.

    Ronan- name cleared.

    Gorgeous (michael)- is hot.

    Conan - is a repressed homosexual, who gossips and is clearly a liar now.

    XXXXXXX - is a 30 something year old ex-seminarian who never had a girlfriend and sounds like a homosexual who hates other homosexuals.

    He is also the one who got Conan kicked out as he dropped him in it with no proof.


    The real story is emerging.... Pat it seems there are some innocent men and some not so innocent men. Why don't you go after the men we have proof on and that are living double lives?


    John from Tipperary

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    1. John, as there is no really independent panel - we here are trying to separate the wheat from the chaff.

      That is a process.......................

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    2. To John from Tipperary: You say 'XXXXXXX - is a 30 something year old ex-seminarian who never had a girlfriend and sounds like a homosexual who hates other homosexuals.'
      It may be uncommon [ i.e. not typical ] in this day and age for a 30 something year old to never have had a girlfriend, but it's not a crime surely?? And how do YOU deduce from THAT that he sounds like a homosexual? You even go on to say that 'he sounds like a homosexual who hates other homosexuals.' Wow!!! It sounds to me that you want everyone to fit a certain mould, and when they don't fall in to your perception of how things should be you jump to wild conclusions. I must say that I find your lack of logic quite incredible, and dangerous. Maybe that lad just knew from a young age that he wanted to be a priest? And that is not a crime either, is it?

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  4. What about XXXXXXX whose priest boyfriend got him a job in the university in Cork for his year out ?

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  5. Pat.. you published this comment under your own name and then deleted it... but not quick enough. Now exactly the same text appears from an anonymous contributor, what are you at???

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    1. The anonymous contributor emailed emailed it to me and and asked me to publish it for him under anonymous.

      When I published it I ticked my own box instead of anonymous.

      No mystery

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    2. ah ok, at least you had the wisdom to remove the name before publishing it!

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  6. I'm intrigued. You say the papers were "carefully counted and then collected and counted again". Also that Connoly "picked up everyone of the 24 bits of paper and counted them to make sure he had all 24."
    I'd like to understand more about how the "wily seminarian" was able to bypass all this careful counting and keep a copy.

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    1. Yes, HOW? Can you explain? He must have super-human wileyness.

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    2. Well its not that difficult . He took a pic on his fone or photocopied it

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    3. Yes, maybe he said: "Excuse me, Monsignor, while I nip over to the JPII Library and photocopy this document.... back in a wee minute".

      Or maybe he was a secret agent, wearing a hidden camera?

      Possibly, he took a photo with a phone - but during a "liturgical" event, with Connolly appearing paranoid about these documents?

      Seriously, if such a document exists, it should be produced and it will help expose Connolly as a serial liar.

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    4. Such a document exists - believe me. I and every other seminarian in my year signed it.

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    5. Re. signing of the Allegiance to the College document - Register are we still talking about 2007 here? Or has this 'practice ' - 'liturgical event' continued every year since then, up to and including 2015 intake?

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  7. John from Tipp - That looks like a cast from a show - Tonight we present to you (YouBitccccccch)

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  8. Sorry, but it's ridiculous to say the letter from Mulhall clears him and the other lad. It's only their word against the word of the man from Derry. The case was tried by a kangaroo court. It needs to be reopened with a completely independent panel. I say the court was of the kangaroo variety because one of its members is alleged to be gay and to have tried to seduce students. He could never be impartial in a case like this. Justice needs to be done, and done quickly.

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  9. I agree however but we need to vigilant and respect these lads. The truth is we don't actually know. We might Never know but we have to be vigilant and respect other guys and those parties involved. The clown who presented these allegations has now come out and said (as of yesterday in fact) that he accepts it was a misunderstanding. How do you deal with that? The damage has already been done to all involved. I think we need to very careful here. Just a thought to those posting away and trigger happy.

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    1. The "clown" according to reports changes his mind every five miniutes!

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    2. Well, there you are. Dangerous in its own right. God love those lads, I can't imagine how it must feel if they genuinely are innocent. Good work Pat

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  10. Lying homosexuals have/are ruining the Church. I don't believe Marshall and his mates for one second; they have learnt well from their master - Msgr Hugh Connolly.

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    1. Not everyone in the church are rotten like some

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    2. You sound bitterly homophobic, Anonymous at 13:04

      It is neither homosexuals nor heterosexuals who 'are ruining the Church',
      but sinfulness, in this case, the sin of unchastity (and the sin of those complicit in covering it up, or turning a blind eye to it).

      Bishop Pat, with respect, I did warn you recently that repeatedly and explicitly linking the unchastity at Maynooth to homosexuality was going to
      lead to an increase in homophobia. This is now happening. And good, homosexual priests and seminarians are going to suffer for it.

      If it were a case of heterosexual unchastity at this (or at any other)
      seminary, you would not hear or read denunciations of the kind made above: there would not be claims that heterosexuals were ruining the
      Church.

      The grave sin at Maynooth is unchastity; it matters not whether it be
      homosexual or heterosexual.

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  11. The "clown" is being intimidated by Church authorities, WHO ARE TRYING TO SAVE THEIR OWN SKINS. THE LYING BASTARDS!

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  12. Can we see this document?

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  13. I can attest that the above on Pat's blog is 100% true, as I have sat through the same charade chaired by the Right Honourable, Msgr Hugh Connolly.

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    1. One would think that instead of handing up the document they would have been encouraged to keep it to remind them of what they had signed up to . Obviousley Connolly & Co knew that those rules were unacceptable on any level and wanted to be sure they wouldn't be known outside the "secret service"

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  14. It's very funny that the very fellas who lacerated other seminarians/priests with merciless gossip are now using "malicious gossip" as a guilt trip and distraction used to protect their buddies!

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    1. If all the gay boys were kicked out of Maynooth gossip would be reduced by about 99.09%! LOL!!!

      They are worse than women, some of those caustic gay lads!!

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    2. Is that not very generalised - and very homophobic?

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    3. They are fairly adept at the auld lying too!

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    4. Tis not homophobic Pat. It just seems to be the case that some of those camp gay boys try to "out women" the women! :)

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  15. It seems odd to go through this elaborate "signing up" ceremony without giving people a copy of what they had signed up to.
    Were they supposed to memorise the content?
    The only other thing I can think of is that, having signed the register, this could be used against seminarians, as required, in subsequent disciplinary actions. Did this happen?

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  16. Pat, I just read your interview in the telegraph. You claim that 60-70% of priests are gay, and that 200+ Irish priests are on Grindr.

    Do you actually have evidence of this, or is it all your own guesswork? I can't recall any scientific study that suggests either of the above, so I think you are misleading people into thinking that you have facts, rather than theories.

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    1. That is my opinion on the basis of 40 years in the priesthood and on the basis of my last 30 years at the coalface of helping people alienated by the Church.

      Even though I have a masters degree in social science I base my opinion on 40 years of study and ministry.

      It is me belief that the Catholic priesthood is now a GAY PROFESSION.

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    2. I have to say that I agree with you Pat. Heterosexual priests are now an endangered species, soon to be extinct! And that is based on my observations of being inside the Church for 20 years now.

      Priest.

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    3. Fr, Thank you for that. We all know this to be the case. We dot not need scientific studies to prove it.

      We are among priests 24 / 7 /365

      Pat

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    4. Where do you get the 200+ on Grindr figure then? It's a bit strange to use any figures when you have no study to back it up.

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    5. From communications with seminarians, ex seminarians, priests, gay lay men etc etc

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    6. All is not yet lost for the endangered species. Pat himself knows 120 aggrieved mistresses. That can be only the tip of the iceberg and there must surely be an equivalent number who are rapturously happy.

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    7. I am am not saying that some heterosexual priests have not disgraced themselves. I am just saying that the priesthood is turning into a gay profession at an accelerating rate.

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  17. When making a complaint to the authorities in Maynooth they use every trick in the book to confuse the complainant. This caused the complainant to doubt himself. This was my experience. I am no longer in Maynooth. I can understand the predicament Conan was in. I feel he should be reinstated for the coming year and I call on his bishop to do likewise. I will request a meeting with Bishop McKeown to explain my situation and why I feel Conan has been badly done by. He is another victim of the twisted approach used by the authorities there.

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    1. I agree with you. I think Conan deserves another chance. He was hard done by.

      You are wasting your time with Donal McKeown.

      I know him 40 years.

      He has no integrity, no balls, no backbone, so stomach.

      The priests in Derry have already seen through him.

      McKeown has sold his soul to the Company Devil.

      Ugh !!!!!

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    2. You are dead right anon 14:24 - they are masters of intimidation in Maynooth. It's very easy for them to bully and manipulate young seminarians, who are trying to preserve their vocations, with no protection from anyone.

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    3. I thought the priests of Derry liked McKeown and see him as a breathe of fresh air given who they had before under Nero Hegarty?

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  18. There needs to be a complete overhaul of seminary systems and maynooth is top of the list. However, is it a little unwise to name parties that are involved allegedly or otherwise? Innocent until proven guilty and the cold arm of the law and so on.

    I guess what i am saying is if one of the parties named were to harm themselves based on the comments i have observed on this blog, who will take responsibility for this?

    Again, i will reiterate, justice must be done, Divine justice and not mere mortals. Deus volts

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  19. Pat if I was one of those two lads caught at it in the room by x then I would seriously consider my conscience before God. Personally I don't believe Marshall for a second. shame on those two seminarians, as this sin affected a third innocent party, ye have a duty before God to set the record straight. Please look deep into yer consciences and aknowledge the truth. Don't be clouded by evil. Your souls are at stake. Everyone will know one day at the final judgement anyway. Ye have a duty before God to a knowledge what ye done so that x innocent name may be upheld. Ye know the truth, ye are the only ones who have the opertunity to do good and stop this evil. Satan with fill ye with fair to try and stop ye, but please ask God for the grace to help ye aknowledge the truth so that this evil may be defeated.

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  20. This quasi-liturgical ceremony is the most ridiculous thing you have posted about Maynooth yet, Pat (although I don't doubt there's yet more ridiculous stuff to come scuttling out from under the rock). Since this kind of nonsense would have no standing in a court of law, it just shows how the church tries to be its own law.
    It also shows the hold it has over people that they feel they have to sign up for this nonsense rather than laugh their socks off.
    As for the clergy being seen to be gay, some people really need to realise how outsiders see the church and see sexuality. I have posted here before about the time I was working in a psychiatric hospital and the chaplain brought some seminarians from Oscott round. When they'd gone, my colleagues all clapped me on the back and congratulated me on pulling.
    Out here in the real world the church is a) a joke and b) more transparent than it likes to think!

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    1. Yes you are right anon 15:15. It made me laugh to hear Connolly try to deny the existence of a gay subculture in Maynooth. The first question that any man now has to answer from family and friends before he enters the seminary is "Are you gay?".

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  21. Is there any more to come today?

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    1. There is a MASSIVE situation developing this afternoon. I will bring it to you when I have full details!

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    2. Would you care to share at least the bones this skeleton and give the result of the inquest later?

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    3. ... is Cardinal Pell involved? I wonder.

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    4. Not that I know of. But the trail is leading in surprising directions

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    5. What sort of directions Pat?

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  22. I better go and put the kettle on.....

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  23. Have the Diocese responsible for the seminarian on Grindr made a statement? Why have seminarians and theology lay students gone missing from facebook? I fear this runs very deep. I suspect old scores will be settled?

    Will we see a kiss and tell interview conducted by Martin Basher or will it be kept local with Miriam O'Callaghan gifted the interview of a lifetime. will georgeous and the lay student make public their 'friendship'? will puck be ordained? I dunno anymore lads!!!

    - Mother Hen

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  24. Who is Archbishop Eamon's hair stylist? Very lovely and stylish.

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    1. Dont know who does it now. Rory used to do it for him :-)

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  25. I was hoping for an action packed blockbuster but this is turning into a 'Carry On' caper.....Kenneth Williams enter stage left.....

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    1. Carry On Up the Gunn

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  26. Has any one asked Bishop Martin of Dublin is it true that he had already informed two of his students they were going to Rome Last April? - is he been less than accurate in his own pronouncements?

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    1. Is that not a detail? But maybe it is an important detail?

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  27. Let no one caught in sin remain
    Inside the lie of inward shame
    We fix our eyes upon the cross
    And run to him who showed great love
    And bled for us
    - Matt Maher

    let us remember those who are suffering right now, for the lord never promised that following him would be easy. we all fall at times.Let us remember the good and holy seminarians and priests. let us pray for them. let us support them also. one day we'll all stand before our maker.

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  28. Pat, you claim another massive story is about to break. This is so sad. Can you tell us please if we will hear more about this story later this evening?

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    1. I think I can bring it to you tomorro or Wed. Its developing. Further Maynooth revelations.

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  29. Pat
    Unless the breaking story includes Daly coming back from the dead as a zombie cardinal it may not live up to the hype :)

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  30. Recent or historic?

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  31. Pat, all my friends here in London are now looking in on this blog. They think this whole Maynooth thing is a complete fiasco. You're blog is picking up fans everywhere and boy do we enjoy seeing those pompous clergy asses getting tanned - metaphorically speaking !! How many have tuned in today?

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  32. Focusing on Martin's decisions when etc is a distraction. Is not the competency of staff at the seminary the issue at stake? Can the investigation focus on their actions and non-actions and get them replaced. Then competent staff can deal with the seminarians in a professional and dare I say pastoral manner??? Shaming young student priests is not going to solve anything regardless of what they have or haven't done.

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  33. 18:47 Dont forget Martin is the admiral responsible for all the sinking ships in the fleet. He must be held accountable for his actions whilst at the helm.

    Rasputin

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  34. Pat.... do your fingers not get sore writing all this

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  35. Below is an excerpt from the approved prophecies of 'Our Lady of Good Success'. We need to pray hard for bishops and priests. Satan is using these homo-sexually active priests to humiliate and bring down the Church:

    “The holy sacrament of Holy Orders will be ridiculed, oppressed, and despised, for in this both the Church and God Himself are oppressed and reviled, since He is represented by His priests.

    “The devil will work to persecute the ministers of the Lord in every way, working with baneful cunning to destroy the spirit of their vocation and corrupting many. Those who will thus scandalize the Christian flock will bring upon all priests the hatred of bad Christians and the enemies of the One, Holy, Roman Catholic, and Apostolic Church. This apparent triumph of Satan will cause enormous suffering to the good pastors of the Church...and to the Supreme Pastor and Vicar of Christ on earth who, a prisoner in the Vatican, will shed secret and bitter tears in the presence of God Our Lord, asking for light, sanctity, and perfection for all the clergy of the world, to whom he is King and Father.”

    “Unhappy times will come wherein those who should fearlessly defend the rights of the Church will instead, blinded despite the light, give their hand to the Church’s enemies and do their bidding. But when [evil] seems triumphant and when authority abuses its power, committing all manner of injustice and oppressing the weak, their ruin shall be near. They will fall and crash to the ground.

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    1. The above prophecies from Our Lady were given during the 15th and 16th centuries, and refer to our own time. The evil being perpetrated in Maynooth will cannibalize itself - as it is in the process of doing. It is plain to see that lies and deceit, which are explicit proofs of the Evil One's presence, are the order of the day in the seminary.

      This is Our Lady's time. In the end her Immaculate Heart will triumph in Maynooth and the world!

      Ave Maria, Gratia Plena!

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  36. 20:51 straight out of the 'Omen'

    Rasputin

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  37. I will watch and pray with the Church while she goes through her Gethsemane---

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    1. Problem in not the "church". Problem is the institution. It is oveshadowing the church.

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  38. They are all wafflers and will B S everyone into oblivion. Gloves need to come off and hit them hard and fast

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  39. I think a lot of guys posting comments to this blog are 'getting off' on all of these revelations. So far we've had King Puck in his jockstrap with his hairy arse exposed, Deacon Byrne who is probably the best looking guy in Maynooth, Brendan Marshall, Conan from Derry & HornyAndyX...........they're all good looking guys so I fear that this blog is becoming a breeding ground for other guys ogling these young seminarians! Just my opinion.

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  40. I was told 50 years ago that when the pope read the third secret of Fatima that he fainted. It said that the priests would chase the people away from the church. Seem to have come true.

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    1. Somewhat ironic when Pope Paul VI was an old queen as well.

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  41. Isn't that opposition between Church and institution a denial of the Incarnation?

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  42. Satan has full control of Maynooth, therefore, its days are numbered despite all the dissimulation and deceit being spewed by the Seminary Council. It also appears that the Dark Spirit has his claws sunk in many bishops.

    Maynooth will soon have no genuine vocations or holy priests. They are asphyxiating the Church and destroying the faith of many "little ones". God help them if they don't stop at once and repent!

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  43. Yes 'The Little One' destroying the little ones.

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  44. A helpful contribution to the discussion:
    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/im-not-surprised-by-the-grindr-gay-sex-scandal-engulfing-a-catholic-seminary-i-almost-became-a-a7171771.html

    And letters in today's Irish Times:
    http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/changing-times-at-maynooth-1.2749361

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  45. If you believe aii that tosh about the BVM revelations of Paul 6 collapse then more fool you. This is all part of the Vaticans old tactics of " scare the shit out of the dumb b#%*+rds and keep them on side and their pennies rolling in"
    It's from a time when our uneducated ancestors were easily duped by such nonsense.
    Go get a life

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    1. MourneManMichael9 August 2016 at 17:12

      "It's from a time when our ancestors were easily duped by such nonsense".

      Those are wise words Anon @ 13:06, and in my opinion can be applied to very many if not most religious beliefs.
      I applaud the central moral gift of a spiritual belief and life, but am obliged to reject all the excesses of the 'tissues, bows, ribbons and wrappings' accompanying much of religion, as well displayed by the RC institution.
      MMM

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