Thursday, 6 October 2016

FATHER RORY COYLE BACK !!!

FATHER RORY COYLE BACK !!!

FATHER RORY COYLE WAS BACK IN ARMAGH CATHEDRAL FOR 10 AM MASS THIS MORNING !!!

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SAINT GRINDRS CATHEDRAL ARMAGH 

When Armagh parishioners went to Mass they found Rory sitting in the back of the cathedral - dressed in a black suit and a black clerical collar and sporting a BIG GINGER BEARD !!!


The Armagh parishioner who rang me just as Mass ended was very angry. She said to me:

"He was sitting there as bold as brass dressed to the nines in the best of clerical gear and smiling at everyone.

At the end of Mass all the old biddies crowded around them and he was shaking hands with them and kissing them.

And just to think a few months ago he was on GRINDR showing not only his face but his bits and pieces and looking for young men to shag and sticking his willie into places he should not be.



I am absolutely disgusted with him and also with Archbishop Eamon Martin who must have known that he was there. I will not be back to Mass". 



This is the third RESURRECTION this week - and all happening during the IRISH CATHOLIC BISHOPS OCTOBER MEETING.

FIRST: Deacon Gorgeous Byrne resurrects himself in the Irish College in Rome.

SECOND: King Puck sneaks into Maynooth after dark on Tuesday evening to complete his final year.

THIRD: Rory Coyle turn us at the cathedral in Armagh where he served after being caught on GRINDR and after spending months in a SEX CLINIC in the USA.

These three incidents are not coincidences.

They are all coordinated.

They are happening during the bishops October meeting.

The Irish Bishops are letting us all know that not only is it okay to be a gay priest and seminarian but it is okay to be SEXUALLY ACTIVE and its okay to be on GRINDR.



This weeks happenings are the ARROGANT IRISH BISHOPS telling the Irish people to F*** O**

They will do as they please and no one can stop them.

Maybe they should go all the way now and make RORY COYLE the DEAN OF FORMATION at Maynooth?

Or maybe the bishops should instruct all young men who attend Mass to have a shower and a change of underwear before they leave home - just in case the priest wants to being them into the sacristy and have sex with them.

BLESS ME FATHER


124 comments:

  1. Bishop Pat, what is the solution to this type of situation in your opinion? Clearly it is far too soon for him to be back, but do you think that if he has repented then he can be restored to ministry after a suitable period of time? Clearly the hierarchy are a waste of space, but I am unsure how we should best deal with this type of situation as catholics.

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  2. That is a very good question and there should ALWAYS be room for repentance and second chances.

    But this is NOT the way to do it.

    Did Eamon say to Rory:

    Pope into Mass into the cathedral and if the people accept you I will give you a new job.

    This things need to be planned properly.

    And the PEOPLE OF GOD should should not have their noses rubbed in the dirt!

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  3. Anonymous @11:22 - At very least he shouldn't have been permitted to return to his previous position at the cathedral - as Pat says, this is rubbing the noses of the faithful in the dirt. People may question whether he should have been allowed to return at all, and he may well have repented, but surely an appointment away from Armagh would have been more appropriate.

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  4. Why wasn't he sitting nearer to the front to continue his repentance with the Lord
    Sitting at the back was to make sure all theses biddys came over to him
    All planned...watch this space

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  5. Pat, earlier today you had a post up about this year's opening talk given in Maynooth and now it has disappeared! Will you be posting said talk again or has someone got to you and forced you to take it down? I sometimes wonder about your 'independence' as several other posts have disappeared in recent months......are you being threatened with legal action, etc? I'm beginning to ask whether you are afraid of the Irish Bishops?

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  6. Lol at the beard
    Look at me I haven't the energy to shave
    I'm still very depressed
    When can I go on grinder again as a lecturer?
    Oh those were the days
    Amen

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  7. I had just posted when I got news from Armagh about Rory's return.

    The Rory Blog replaces the other one I had written for today - which will appear tomorrow.

    NO ONE has gotten to me.

    NO ONE will.

    Do you not know me by now?

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  8. I guessed that.
    Rory and his ginger beard takes precedence

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  9. I was at that Mass this morning and saw Rory.

    I am disgusted.

    I actually went over to him and told him: "Go home and have a fuckin shave".

    Its pathetic - trying to milk sympathy.

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  10. Its not that Rory takes precedence.

    Its more like breaking and important news.

    I like to keep readers right up to date.

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  11. The Armagh morning mass-goers keep their high horse handy! @11.47 I am impressed that your principal concern was his new beard! Really?!

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  12. It just makes him look scruffy!

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  13. Oh so the mass goer is at fault now 11.54
    No I wasn't at mass anywhere this morning
    But what did you want 11. 47 to say to him
    Ayah good boy...coming back to us...you know where the money is

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  14. The fact that Rory has grown a beard in the sex clinic means that at least in part he is ashamed and is trying to hide his face.

    Its a pith he was not as good at hiding his face and genitals on Grindr.

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    1. He's maybe a bear now . All them big beardy lumber jacks in America have turned his head

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  15. 12 06
    Thanks for the laugh
    I always get one on here

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  16. And if He was alive today he would be on Grindr and Fabguys :-)

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  17. Rory allowed to show up at the Cathedral while Eamonn Martin is hiding in Maynooth with his other bunch for the losers conference.

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  18. So, the only difference between Jesus and Rory is that Rory has ginger pubes?

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  19. I seriously doubt that. I was simply making a light remark about fr coyle being branded "scruffy". That is not a sin in the eyes of the church to the best of my knowledge unlike some of his other activities.
    Unlike our blessed lord Rory is a ginger and in my humble opinion red beards are usually ghastly so perhaps he should shave it off.

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  20. That gives Eamon the say that he was not there when it happened!

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  21. Does Eammon actually say morning mass in the Cathedral

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  22. He is in Maynooth this week with his fellow Goons.

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  23. It makes u wonder if he went into any sort of program at all. Did he get Counselling ?. Did Eamonn Martin cover up for him and tell him to get out of the Country for a while to let things settle down ?.

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  24. Or maybe he spent the last few months living with Eamon in Ara Coeli?

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  25. I'm delighted that the Auld Bitch who couldn't wait to denounce another Christian will not be back to Mass. To be honest her attendance at mass was a farce to begin with as it didn't have any affect on their life. Just two thoughts for whoever it was, both will go over their heads anyway

    1:"Also He spoke this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others: “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee fstood and prayed thus with himself, g‘God, I thank You that I am not like other men—extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.’ And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me a sinner!’

    2 Going to church doesn't make you a Christian, any more than standing in a garage makes you a car.


    So to the Auld Fart who won't be back to Mass. Good bye and close the door behind you.

    From a member of the Parish

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  26. Were you one of the ones at the back licking his ginger hole?

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  27. Ooh I love a ginger man with a beard myself!
    Obviously the required time of repentance is how long it takes a priest to grow one. The real test is what job he is now given.

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  28. DIRECTOR OF FORMATION - MAYNOOTH

    He is perfectly suitable.

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    1. I am a Maynooth seminarian and we fully support Rory here.

      I also think be is very hot and he can have me anytime.

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  29. 12 34
    Your Christianity shines through. NOT
    Aren't you doing to the poster who said that he/ she wouldn't be back exactly the same thing.
    You are professing yourself to be like the tax collector
    Just saying....so think about it
    Lovely name calling too...Charming
    Have a good day


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  30. I think a prison chaplaincy would fulfil his sexual pleasures.

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  31. Ginger beard? you sure it was'nt Frankie Boyle?

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  32. Rory stayed in Armagh priests house last night. Parish worker.

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  33. Does Rory have embarrasing information about senior Armagh clergy? Armagh PP

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  34. Ha ha a mole in the parochial house....paranoia will kick in now. Big time!

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    1. But did he sleep in his own room.........?

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    2. I would have thought that Rory's rooms have been alocated to the retiring pp who replaces him in Armagh this monthm

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  35. It's little wonder that Rory turned to Grindr since it seems that Armagh parish is a nest of vipers.

    On another note, Pat says "The Irish Bishops are letting us all know that not only is it okay to be a gay priest and seminarian but it is okay to be SEXUALLY ACTIVE and its okay to be on GRINDR."

    Well I don't see the problem with someone being a gay priest or seminarian so fair play to the Irish Bishops on that score. But if they are saying that sexual activity is ok in this context then they need to do a bit of repenting for endangering souls. Seems to me that Bishops aren't really in the business of saving souls any more, they seem to prefer a bit of Holy Spiritless crisis management.

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  36. He is away on sabbatical,Pat, but just imagine the lovely Fr Kerr having to go in that room
    Hope they get him a new bed at least

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  37. When I was studying to qualify for my profession, I struggled financially as I expected to have to - no holidays, few nights out, much studying etc. These students(?) seem to be able to travel widely, drink freely etc. Who is paying for all this fun? Is it their indulgent mammy's or the pewsitters or both? I am in the UK but I would not be prepared to see my money support luxury lifestyles for the inmates of a dysfunctional home for the terminally self obsessed.
    EL

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    1. If you put money in the collection plate that is exactly what you are doing. Not forgetting funding legal defence for child abusers, paying damages to their victims, and so on.
      The highest standard of living I have enjoyed in my life was as a postulant in a Benedictine monastery. The monastery has since closed and one of the monks was sent down last month for 27 counts of abuse and two of perjury.

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  38. 14.22 I think that is why theses gay boys go to seminaries free everything
    When a relative was a clerical student
    We loaned him ourcar on his holidays...even though we were struggling as newly weds

    No ... It didn't last...he got married b4 he committed to anything

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  39. Pat, Amy and Brown's Boys are gripped with that blind arrogance of old, just like their proud forbears.

    God will allow the whole thing to collapse around their thick skulls because of this.

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  40. Surely the good people, the laity, will be knocking on Eamons door now
    To ask, what is going on?
    Did the ginger bearded one tell his admirers why he was in the priest's house last night
    Had he a date?

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  41. Oh, how I miss Hugh Kennedy and the endless amusement and divertion he gave us. To hell with Maynooth, Rory and the rest. Bring back Hughie.

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    1. We will try and get you an update on Big Hughie.

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  42. Pat, am I right in saying you are a former Catholic?

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  43. So you are still a Roman Catholic? I'm confused.

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  44. Please allow me to take away your confusion.

    I was baptised a Roman Catholic is a Roman Catholic Church.

    I was ordained a Roman Catholic priest by a Roman Catholic Bishops in a Roman Catholic Cathedral.

    Since ordination I have been increasingly horrified by the contradictions and hypocrisies of the man made Roman Catholic Institution.

    I have now lost all contact and all allegiance with the Roman Catholic Institution.

    I regard myself as a Christian in the catholic tradition - 7 sacraments etc.

    I was consecrated a bishop by two independent catholic bishops in May 1998.

    So I am a catholic Christian with no connection with the Roman institution.

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  45. If you are not a Catholic Bishop why do you dress as one?
    If you have a separate church, why do you wear robes that make you look like a Catholic Bishop?
    Are you leading your people astray?

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  46. I am afraid you are showing a great deal of ignorance.

    Catholics not in communion with Rome, Anglicans and many of the "Protestant" churches say the Creed and regard themselves as "catholic".

    I see Roman Catholicism as denomination or sect.

    Many bishops who are catholic, but not Roman Catholic, dress like RC bishops.

    My people know exactly where I stand and we travel together.

    We put JESUS CHRIST before popes.

    In that a sin?

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  47. Are you calling me ignorant? I resent that very much. I asked a civil question and you call me stupid. I feel hurt and angry. I am sorry that I engaged with you. I feel ashamed that you made me feel ignorant. I didn't have the luxury of spending years in college. I am an ordinary Catholic, trying to live a holy life and I think I deserve an apology from you Pat.

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  48. I am NOT calling you IGNORANT as in the STUPID meaning.

    I am saying that you are IGNORANT in the sense that you are UNKNOWING when it comes to theology - which is understandable as that is not what you are trained in.

    But being a CATHOLIC or BISHOP are things that pertain to theology - particularly Sacrament Theology etc.

    I apologise absolutely for offending you. Please forgive me.

    But if you want to argue about theological matters you need to know theology.

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    1. Pat, it may help to put a permanent statement about your position on catholicity on the side bar of the blog
      It seems like you get this question a lot, and the reality will always be that for most people Catholic = Roman Catholic church.

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  49. 15.59 mentions those big beardy lumberjacks in the US who have turned Rory's head....I bet! And what about all those big beardy chunky truckers in the US.......away from home for days, even weeks on end. Yeah, Rory, bring it on!

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  50. Is your blog only for theologians Pat?
    You are talking above the ordinary people and showing off!
    Who are your 'people'?

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  51. No my Blog is for EVERYONE.

    Is it too much to ask that those who want to define who and what a bishop is know what they are talking about?

    My people are on the one hand the congregation that attend here at Larne.

    But on the other hand they are EVERYONE who asks for or needs my ministry.

    In fact "my people" are "The People of God".

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  52. bishop Pat, How many people attend your Church in Larne on a Sunday?

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  53. Our Sunday congregation is normally about 30 more or less.

    But I do not believe in numbers.

    When Jesus offered his First Mass on Calvary the congregation was 4 - 3 women and 1 man.

    Until I get below 4 I cannot complain.

    Its not about numbers. I celebrate Mass on Sundays - I do not run Bingo :-)

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  54. Beware of 17:00 and 17:23 Pat, I reckon they are either from Maynooth or are among its cheerleaders(very apt nickname BTW).

    Pat doesn't mislead anyone, unlike the Grindrs amongst the Irish clergy.

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  55. Why 17:35? Are you thinking of attending one of Pat's services or are you conducting a census of religions or something?

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  56. Yesterdays blog mentioned Galway diocese and gardai cars - I want to hear more about this - what happened?

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  57. I dunno about ye lads but I'm all confused. Sure pucks picture was up on grindr and the growler app and he was meeting fellas for sexual activities and now he backs at Maynooth. Talk about a slap in the face to the current seminarians and the Irish faithful!!!

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    1. Sadly the decent seminarians and the faithful don't count. The bishops know they have them by their goopies and pockets !!!

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  58. It's very simple, the hierarchy are as arrogant as they always were,it's still the mushroom model of church, keep everyone in the dark, feed them plenty horse sh** and they'll be alright. Nothing has changed and it won't until trump cards are played to end the game!
    Wil D West

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  59. In some cultures a beard is a sign of wisdom. Growth outside what about inside. The church has invested a few bob in this lad. The root cause is Church policy in practice vs church policy in theory. Concentrating on individuals can take heat off the main issues

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  60. Am I not the quare boy sitting here tonight having a good oul laugh to myself. I rumbled the " institutional" Catholic Church years ago. Watched the Caseys, the Clearys, my fellow townies Micky Dallat and his nephew and thon other turd burglar O'Brien over in Edinburgh. And countless others since. And now all this other carry on in the seminaries I have no doubt quite a number of their lordships are shirt lifters or alb lifters!! And loads of the clergy club telling us how we should live good moral lives while they bunny hop from bed to bed or toilet to toilet.
    Don't get me wrong I know there are many decent hard working priests. God help them. I personally know many of them are increasingly disillusioned as they get older but sadly are trapped and their vulnerable position exploited.
    I did the right thing. I stopped supporting the Sunday show but more importantly stopped putting my pounds on the plate. I'll leave that to the holy water lBiddies. The poor critters are not only being pissed on but shat on as well."You good ladies and gentleman just keep you cash rolling in this direction and keep us in the lifestyle we enjoy!"
    Best decision and action I ever took all those years ago. Day by day I'm confirmed in my decision.
    Dalriada Dick

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  61. What about crowdfunding a new Oratory Seminary in Larne? :-) Rector: Bishop Patrick Buckley. My only stipulation: no Nuns telling us about the hurt they feel deep down for the slightest thing and teaching us how to be pastoral and generally talking new-age crap like they did in Maynooth. As if going to a fourth rate university wasn't bad enough, having to listen to that bullcrap would drive a man distracted and will put a man off seminary more than any gay cabal in my experience.

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  62. 20.55 Dalriada Dickhead, I really find your terminology for gay people quite rude, ignorant and offensive. 'Shirt lifters' and other old fashioned offensive terms you've used highlights your age and what an old dinosaur you really are! Bigoted language from an old ignoramus idiot sums you up well. I wouldn't be surprised if you were the biggest gay in the village as you always protest too much.

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  63. Agree with you @21:33. Between Dalriada Dickhead calling someone a 'turd burglar" and the utterly ridiculous oul fool with the unconverted tongue @11:47 who clambered onto their high horse to march over to Rory Coyle and say "Go home and have a fuckin shave", it's been something of a day for the crazies.

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    1. It's been a crazy year all right. With seminarians and priests indulging themselves on Grindr while the majority of Irish people struggle to make ends meet. Very crazy...

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    2. Yeah 22:03 it is a toss up among Fr Coyle, Fr Derwin, Deacon Jones, Deacon Byrne and the other Maynooth Grindrs for the "crazy of the year" title.

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  64. The 'Gay priest speaks' blog is very informative. He admits that he was hungry for male affection and approval because of his father's hostility and that this was the reason for his state and not the imagined 'gay gene'. The lack of fatherly affection/approval,the failure to obtain the approval/acceptance of male peers, the indifference of females to a male or the lack of female availability (prison, active military service) are the causes of this condition and, once tasted (except for the latter), is usually difficult to treat. Up to the 60's this was accepted by almost all psychologists/psychiatrists but today the 'gay gene' theory is only politically acceptable one and most people adhere to it rigidly though demonstrably untrue. It actually is a disorder as the catechism states and the only way to confront it is to admit that this is so.
    EL
    EL

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    1. Er, no, not really.

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    2. Spot on, Anon.22:06 - there is no evidence whatsoever of that elusive "gay gene". The only reason the world of psychology declassified homosexuality as a disorder in the 1970's was because of lobbying by homosexual groups, not because there was any groundbreaking evidence to support the position. Nothing has changed on that score, but, as you say, the only politically correct position is to support the mythical "gene theory" or the "born that way theory".

      Anon.23:18 and others will surely deny this by saying "Er,no,not really", but will offer nothing more substantial - the reason being that there actually is no scientific support for the "PC" position. Likewise, Anon.23:04 can only call you deluded - however the insight that the priest gained re. a broken or traumatic relationship with his father (which actually is not the same as blaming his dad) is closer to the mark when one looks into the likely causes of the homosexual orientation.

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  65. Drove past the parochial house in Armagh tonight and could have sworn I saw disco lights in the top room to the rythmic beat of thin lizzy....'the boys are back in town'

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  66. 22 06. You truly are deluded

    I was amused at the priest casting blame on his dad.

    Always a good cop out...blame the parents

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  67. EL @ 22:06 - The Church has not opined on the question of the genesis of homosexual tendencies and is neutral as to the issue, so on what basis do you make your claims?

    When you say that the catechism teaches that homosexuality is a disorder, I assume you are referring to the Thomist terminology of 'intrinsically disordered' sexuality? St. Thomas Aquinas taught that all sex outside of marriage is 'intrinsically disordered'; the Church teaches that masturbation is 'intrinsically disordered'; it teaches that lying is intrinsically disordered' (e.g. CCC 1753). The whole point of the term 'intrinsically disordered' is to signify that it is morally wrong to chose to do such an act. When the catechism goes on to describe homosexual tendencies as 'objectively disordered' it refers not the person himself but to the tendency to the act (as an intrinsic moral evil). The Church does not consider the whole character of the person having such tendencies to be disordered. Nor does it consider that the particular inclination of a homosexual person is a sin.

    Your statement that homosexuality is a 'disorder as the catechism states' is highly misleading as it indicates that the Church considers homosexual tendencies to be a psychiatric or psychological disorder of the whole person. This is most definitely not the case (even if origin of homosexuality is environmental rather than genetic) and misrepresents the teaching of the Church.

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  68. MourneManMichael7 October 2016 at 00:07

    Whatever about Rory's beard Sean @ 20:51, perhaps the old Latin saying may be appropriate:

    "Philosophum non facit barba". [A beard does not make a philosopher].

    And to Anon @ 21:33: I think Dalriada'D's comments are more intentionally directed at the deceitful behaviour of certain clerics than to any section of the community identifiable as a group by any sexual preference. While some of his terminology may be ill advised, replying in like fashion by abusing his pseudonym doesn't actually enhance your criticism.
    MourneManMichael

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  69. Re 22.32
    I hope they return the 'disco lights' to the Cathedral, I hear Black Sabbath are reforming to do a concert there.



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  70. Anon at 18:54 - you asked about Galway. Yea, can't tell you a lot, as it is shrouded in mystery. But, the PP of Barna resigned his parish, or was made to resign his parish a few years ago and a long saga ensued with Drennan. Drennan got his way in the end and had the priest laicised - the last thing he did before he resigned himself. All I know is that the priest was, let's say, careless, wandering certain Galway beaches where he encountered the boys in blue. Somehow, Drennan got wind of all this and made hay with it.

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  71. @22.06. I was taught and believe that homosexuality is a disorder. Secular psychologists and psychiatrist stated exactly the same opinion until the seventies. Although the Church offered no opinion as to the scientific reasons, the secular experts did. Those conclusions were as I stated (except for the omission on my part - and perhaps others omitted - of early sexual experience). You may, as I am, be VERY surprised that expert opinion has changed so completely and rapidly as it has but the honesty of the priest in question gives the lie to their 'PC' views which, if now denied, would rob them of a good living.
    Homosexuality as understood for many decades is caused by:
    Patrial alienation/absence/indifference (as our priest states occurred in his case)
    Lack of acceptance/approval of male peers in a developmental stage (as others in this state accept)
    Early sexual experiences including sexual assaults as well as experimentation among peers or near peers.
    An inability to attract female sexual interest which is much more discriminating than among homosexual males.
    Total lack of female availability which may give rise to males seeking male sexual liaisons e.g. in prisons/military war zones.
    If anyone is willing to attribute other reasons for their state, I should be interested to hear them although some may be unaware of very early sexual exploitation and may have suppressed them.
    If this is true, as I believe, after some research is true, then it is a disorder. As to masturbation - it is clearly also a disorder but possibly - and hopefully a temporary one - succeeded by a normal heterosexual relationship open to its purpose.

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  72. The Church in Ireland is in the direst of straits.

    Three of the most senior archbishops (one of them not native to these shores), are homosexual (very likely practising - or have been sexually active in the past - and are, therefore, compromised).

    Other Irish bishops are also actively gay and have been sexually active with seminarians, priests and laity.

    The gay lobby, in the Irish Church, are protecting and cosetting, active and promiscuous homosexual seminarians, deacons and priests, in Gaynooth and in their own dioceses.

    There are practically no sincere vocations and many dioceses have had NO vocations for years.

    The National Seminary is directed by active homosexuals and heretics.

    Some Parishes are being staffed by men, who neglect their most basic pastoral duties, towards the sick and the dying, who are lacking in even the modicum of decorum, expected of a Catholic priest.

    Priests who have posted pictures of their genitals and who have been using immoral and evil dating apps, swan back to the parish, as if nothing happened?? To be fawned over by adoring aul biddies?

    This is going to get much worse before it gets better.

    Maybe the Pope should cancel the Dublin Meeting of Families in 2018 and, instead, impose an interdict on Ireland and All Ireland?

    Maybe the Pope should recall Charles Brown,
    before he spends too much petrol money driving up and down to Knock?

    Maybe the Pope should shelve any planned trip to Ireland and ask how a self-swerving, self-promoting idiot, like Timio, was able to secure,for himself, the position of General Sec for the World Meeting Of Families in Dublin??

    Questions, questions, questions!!!

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  73. Yet again another attack on the gay community and you say your a man of Mercy. You are going to be the cause of a young gay man or persons taking ones life.
    I've had enough of your attacks on my gay friends, go away and leave us alone. You are an evil bitter twisted man, I hope Karma comes on you soon.
    I look forward to reading this post online, not!

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  74. Hang on a second 02.54........how the hell can you claim that one of the four archbishops in Ireland is not from this country? Diarmuid Martin - a native of Dublin; Eamonn Martin is from Derry, Michael Neary is from Mayo or Galway & Kieran O' Reilly is a Cork man. If you're talking about Charlie Brown, he is not one of the most senior archbishops in Ireland - he is merely the Papal Nuncio, he is not in charge of a diocese and is not a member of the Irish Bishop's Conference - he merely attends their meetings in his role as nuncio. Get your facts correct before you start writing!
    As for at least three of them being gay, that is probably correct but produce your evidence.

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    1. Surely to goodness, Anon @ 9:03, the archbishop who represents the pope in Ireland can reasonably be referred to as one of the most senior archbishops in the country? Stop being an idiot.

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  75. Sean Baptist at 01.30 you say the PP of Barna resigned his parish and has been laicised......he's working as a curate in Co. Clare!

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  76. I think the post at 02.54 is the best summing up of the state of the Irish Catholic Church I've read for some time. If I may just add one little area the contributor has failed to mention ( although there are many, many more) and that is the serious misappropriation and abuse of finance. When the good catholic people of Ireland become aware of the intimate details of some of the goings on in that arena there will be riots!
    Retired PP

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  77. It would have been great that when I was addicted to internet pornography a few years ago that my employer had stumped up the dollars to send me to a sex addiction clinic in America. Unfortunately I live in the real world of rising rents and car insurance premiums. I had to master my addiction the hard way through prayer, going to regular Mass and Confession, and with the help of a holy and wise Spiritual Director(who isn't a product of Maynooth, thank God). I also used a large dose of good old fashioned cop on and kept away from the Internet and limited use of my smartphone. It is worrying, to say the least, that these priests and deacons who are meant to be trained in prayer and self denial are not able to exhibit moderate levels of self control.

    It is also worrying that Archbishop Eamon Martin believes that the walls of Maynooth breathe prayer. With all due respect to the Archbishop, he betrays a serious lack on intelligence if he can't make a logical connection between these Grindr priests and seminarians and a woefully derelict formation system and team.

    If Maynooth was a place of deep, sincere, collective prayer, we would not have these endless scandals which are destroying the Faith of so many people.

    Do these priests and seminarians not realise that they are meant to be an example to the laity? It is blatantly obvious that this has not been instilled in them during formation.

    As far as I can see, many priests and seminarians are spoilt, self-indulgent little sissies who have their "Daddies" (the Bishops) ride to their rescue when they can't maintain basic levels of self control and respect.

    Have any of these Grindr priests and seminarians ever even heard of HOLINESS?

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  78. @ 02:12. Conspiracy theory is no substitute for good science. Scientists do indeed vary on the origins of homosexuality and many (though not a majority) do consider its origin to be environmental rather than genetic. There seems to be an implicit view in your statement that the absence of a 'gay gene' makes homosexuality a disorder; psychiatrists who believe that homosexuality is environmental in its genesis do not on that basis consider it a disorder, but as part of a spectrum of sexuality. If you choose on the basis of questionable science that homosexuality is a disorder from a psychological perspective, that is your choice though one that appears to be more informed by prejudice than reason.

    However, what you are NOT free to do is to misrepresent the doctrine of the Church. As I said last night, there is absolutely no basis in the doctrine of the Church for the view that homosexuality is a disorder of the whole person beyond the specific Thomist theological understanding which few people understand and which is regularly misrepresented by those who do not understand how St Thomas (and subsequently the Church) use the term 'disorder'. The fact that you were taught that it was a disorder in a generic way says more about the quality of your teaching than about the subject matter at hand. It is interesting that you addressed the points I made about homosexuality and masturbation being disorders and not extramarital sex and lying which are also intrinsically disordered according to the doctrine of the Church.

    As to the specific views of the priest in question, his opinions have been shaped by the specific counselling that he has had. Hopefully he has found that counselling helpful, but the opinion he has formed is of no persuasive value as to the origins of homosexuality since they are based on ex post facto reasoning.

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  79. Anonymous at 9:05 - I'm referring to the guy who was PP in 2012 and officially he went on 'study leave' that summer. Strangely, he is still listed on the diocesan website among 'active' clergy - lol. But he has been laicised. Maybe, he has some insurance policy and is haggling with the diocesan administrator? He lives in Moycullen.

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  80. According to the legend Thomas was locked up with a comely wench by his brothers in a failed attempt to cure him of his Dominican vocation. A pretty boy might have had more success, though at what a cost to Catholic theology. Homosexuals who have sublimated their sexual energies into cultural and philanthropic pursuits have made an astonishingly disproportionate contribution to human advancement down through the centuries.
    Thomas's view on gay sex is interesting: while it goes against the natural biological finality of human sexuality it is nevertheless an improvement on masturbation in so far as it is open to sharing with another person. He would surely have embraced the view recently expressed by a distinguished German professor that a rent boy who insists on condoms displays a beginning of moral sensitivity towards his clients.
    The Gay Priest's Story is far from unique. Marc Oraison gives similar accounts of the gay priests he worked with more than forty years ago. At what point does it become safe from the point of view of political correctness to suggest that such a man is "unwell" and needs "treatment"?
    The rule that a candidate for priesthood should have demonstrated an aptitude for chastity before being accepted into the seminary is surely reasonable but should not preclude a wider discussion on the homosexual personality as such and whether it might be a help or a hindrance in parish ministry.
    Tertullianus III

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  81. Homosexuality can't be cured or treated
    Does it matter if it's in the gene and then surfaces because of environment.
    Just let us accept that the good god has made all people different...get on with life as you see it
    A family member has schizophrenia didn't surface until well after uni and 2 degrees.
    So we just accept and get on with life.
    Let all the scientists do thei job...it isn't my bag...or yours unless you are a scientist involved in research.


    BTW ..I did read that homosexuality is caused by the water we drink......all those contraceptives getting pissed out into the waste and eventually ending back into our taps

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  82. I've no time for Pomp and ceremony most laity don't give a fig
    Archbishop...who cares...he is ment to be a servant of God, not shuffling around in robes...like the Queen

    Now Pat that's a 100 for your blog of yesterday

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  83. This is all about a man going to Mass? Is Rory Coyle not entitled to attend Mass as a sinner or as a man that has sought forgiveness and is repentant. I hope and pray that all you bloggers including Pat Buckley have clean souls and free from sin, cause I'm not! I'm like Rory Coyle who is Gay and he made grave errors of judgment and now paying the price for his actions. Please leave the man in peace and go show Mercy or at least go away and stop abusing the greater name of VULNERABLE folk in today's ever demanding society. This is not good for the Gay culture.
    I've said a prayer for you all perfect people.

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  84. 17:22, I'm sure your "prayer" will do everyone a 'parr' o' good.

    The bold Rory turned up dressed in clerical clothes, grinning from ear to ear. God's Word says - "bear fruit that befits repentance". You don't just 'show up' at Armagh Cathedral after such a shocking scandal.

    If he is ever to come back into priestly ministry (and many think that his place henceforth is in the pews - not at the Altar - or in the pulpit), then there needs to be a process of public repentance and some form of appropriate engagement with the people he has scandalised, whose trust he has betrayed.

    He can't just appear back, grinning like a Cheshire cat, to be petted by the Biddies. For him to have done so was totally inappropriate and ill-advised to say the least!

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  85. 15.14 You obviously have no idea of the structure of the Catholic Church in Ireland - there are four provinces each with an archbishop & Charlie Brown is NOT one of them. He is merely an ambassador of the Holy Father. Every other ambassador to Ireland could hardly be described as being a senior member of the Irish government. Now who's being an idiot......but why bother? You're just not able to get it.

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  86. It's time the structure of the R Catholic church had a good shake down
    Diminishing vocations and less pennies on the plates.....here we come

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  87. 17.22 FYI I'm certain he sat in the pews and not the pulpit or Altar. You seemed to be far distanced from Armagh parish from what I was told he was welcomed by all with open arms and the previous information that some old Biddy give him the riot act is not true as I had a family member in attendance who wisely informed me of the real account and not the made up account from this shameful blog.

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  88. 18:36 - "this shameful blog"?

    Nothing shameful, I suppose, about a priest trawling the internet for gay sex and posting pictures of his dick on Grindr??

    Roo Roo welcomed back "with open arms" - says it all. You f***ing deserve everything you get. The whole f***ing show is an obscene joke in which perverts and degenerates have centre stage.

    I would NOT allow that man within a 100 miles of my teenage sons.

    Catholic Parent,
    Co Armagh.

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    1. Catholic parent, I'd take the word Catholic out and question your parenting skills with your limited use of language you seem to avail of.
      Never speak to soon as nobody knows what lies around the corner for your teenage boys!!!

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    2. Your comment 20:06, about what lies around the corner for that parent's teenage boys - you are very lucky you are using anonymity.

      You reveal the true ilk and nature of those who are supporting Coyle.

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    3. 23:12 Very quick to assume and take my post out of context- get a life. Ive 3 teenage boys and I for sure don't know what lies round the corner for them and if I did I'd be God.
      If you'd a son that commited wrong like Rory Coyle, would you throw him to the dogs?
      FYI I'm no supporter of Rory Coyle, smart man. I was brought up and educated to a standard of respect and be compassionate to all, you seem to lack both or most likely don't understand the words meanings.
      Using anonymity!!! Take a look at your own listing and it's not clown!

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  89. You better sell up and move 100 miles away so. Unless of course you are just having an idiotic rant and started on the vodka a bit early this friday

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  90. Hahah @19:21, you say vodka, I say rum. I can almost see his/her head exploding. It is great publicity for Grindr though. Pat is very onside with the Irish bishops on this one (rare to see them both so out of touch at the same time) - gay men all over Ireland use Grindr to meet other men in small towns and country areas where there is no gay life, or in cities where they are not comfortable with the gay scene. Many do indeed use it for hook-ups, but many others to arrange regular dates or get to know people. Plenty of profiles have "no hook-ups" or similar in the profile description. Some profile say 'looking to meet friends'. And yes other say "looking for sex". If Pat and Diarmuid had bothered to download the app and acquaint himself with the reality and difficulty of meeting other gay people in rural Ireland, maybe we would have less overheated and ignorant comments about the app and less harsh judgements about the people that use it. Just the standard homophobia one gets used to. Not that I think priests and seminarians should be on it, just pointing out an alternate view. Tho to be fair it seems thon lot in Maynooth were indeed "body hunting" and they are giving the poor oul app a bad press!

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    1. So Rory went on to Grindr just to make friends?

      Why then did he show them his willy?

      Very few of my "friends" have seen my willy - or would want to :-)

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  91. the lady who rang Pat, didn't say she spoke to him
    And if someone told him to go and have a shave, I'm sure your family relative didn't see and hear everything that was said to him...unless she was sat beside him
    The Armagh parent is entitled to his/ her opinion where teenage boys are concerned.
    Rory crossed the line many times, not just once,
    Eamon will finish up another Sean ...but what the heck...who cares

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  92. Absolutely no idea Bishop Pat. Not saying you are wrong on poor oul Rory. But i do think you are very wrong to say that every grindr user is up to the same craic - was a generic comment not an insight into Rory's "strange goings on" :-) And I'm glad to hear very few of your "friends" have seen your willy though I am sure you are being very modest - you'd never suspect what people would want to see nowadays!

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  93. The nutter who randomly went up and told him to have a fuckin shave needs her head examined. What sort of loon would do that?!

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  94. Who said the ''nutter'' was female
    And it's no big deal
    He or she must have been shocked to see him
    Wonder if Rory still there, going to early morning mass....or was it a one off

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  95. I stand corrected, could have been a man. Either way, a "nutter" filled with an ugly self-righteousness - s/he might have been shocked and disapproved but has s/he no common courtesy? No basic manners? Why the foul language and why no pronunciation of the 'g' at the end of the word fucking? Why was s/he talking about his beard - what has that got to do with the price of butter? And what business is it of his/hers that she feels she has the right to verbally abuse someone just because s/he thinks his conduct is wrong? One just knows the type - a nasty old biddy/beast - so yes it is a big deal because these poisonous types are polluting parishes up and down the country. I'd prefer that this sort of loon shift along and join the denizens of the wilder shores of Paiselyism and give Catholics a break. If s/he wanted to raise the issue of his sexual misconduct with him, s/he could have done so while maintaining his/her dignity and in a manner befitting a Christian rather than a manner befitting a mob.

    It could well be the same halfwit who apparently won't let his/her teenage sons within a million miles of Rory despite the fact that they are, as a matter of fact, well within 100 miles of Rory. S/he needs to get a grip on herself and get to confession quick smart for implying the man targets teenage boys - it is an disgraceful implication. His wrongdoing was directed at consenting adults, not underage boys.

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  96. I agree with Catholic parent. Rory Coyle is not just accused of being on Grindr looking for gay sex and sending naked pictures of himself. There are stories also of "orgies", etc. Given the penchant of some promiscuous gay men for "younger types", I would not be comfortable with him near my teenage lads.

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  97. A 19 year old is still a teen, especially to his parents...so no the parent isn't implying underage.
    20 .06 your post sounds like a threat to that parent
    Or as they used to say yonks ago
    'Are you praying prayers' on the parent


    It is a very offensive post Imo


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    1. 20:06 and 21:20, I don't give a damn what you think or say about me and I stand over what I said about Coyle. I would not allow him to have contact with my sons in their late teens and early 20's - no way! How that man expects to stand up on an altar ever again and preach is beyond me. Let him say his prayers and go to mass like everyone else but he has no place as a priest. Every time he opens his mouth in the future all people will think is Grindr and gay sex parties!! For him to show up in priests clothes in Armagh just goes to show how he doesn't get the offence and scandal he has given. All of this only happened in April or May and he has the bloody neck to appear back already? They haven't a bloody clue! Who invited him back? Archbishop Martin I have no confidence in you!

      Catholic mother,

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  98. 22:06. My post implies on threat on anyone. It's my opinion!

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    1. Your post at 20:06 is dark, threatening and sinister. It comes over as you wishing evil on those teenage lads. You are disgusting. Shame on you.

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    2. 23:37 Stick to the knitting my sweet little flower and have another hot whisky on me. Sleep tight��

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    3. 01:08 you are clearly a scumbag. Goodbye.

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  99. This exchange reminds me of a former colleague who went around saying she would die if one of her daughters came out as a lesbian. I was very offended by this, but since I am gay she never said it in front of me.
    How I laughed when one of her daughters actually did come out as lesbian!
    Personally I read the supposedly threatening comment to mean that you can never be sure what your young adult children are going to do themselves. It's one of those unpredictable ones, human nature lol

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