Saturday, 14 January 2017

AMY REPORTS BLOG TO PSNI?

AMY GOES TO PSNI OVER BLOG:





AMY MARTIN of Armagh has reported this Blog to the PSNI in Armagh.


AMY AND RORY


She got her Safeguarding person - AIDAN GORDON to report an anonymous comment published on the Blog of 25th of November with regard to the RORY COYLE case. 


AIDAN GORDON

The anonymous comment using FIGURATIVE, ALLEGORICAL AND METAPHORICAL 
LANGUAGE was saying that the corruption in Armagh and the RC Church in general should be resisted and rooted out. He used the words: "taking the flame thrower".

I think she's suggesting that this Blog allows incitement to hatred. But I don't know.

I thought that Cackle Daly was petty in trying to use the RUC to evict me - which they refused to get involved in - but now Amy takes the gold medal for pettiness in using the DIOCESAN SAFEGUARDING PERSON - who is there to protect children and vulnerable adults being abused being abused by bishops, priests and others in the Church - to go to the PSNI about perfectly valid criticisms of him on an open, honest and straight talking Blog.

And while I have every respect for the police I am asking myself today should they not be using their limited resources elsewhere?

I am also surprised that AMY is breaking Canon Law by resorting to the civil authorities in the first instance about a concern he has with a fellow bishop and cleric.

I heard about Amy's complaint to the police yesterday morning when I got a call from the PSNI when I was in a remote location in Donegal with a small group of priests on a short retreat.

My immediate reaction was that the Armagh Diocesan Safeguarding person would be better employed examining the case of Father Rory Coyle exposing himself to a former school boy to whom he was chaplain.

And that is not to mention the ongoing case of Father X and his young DUP paramour ?

And then there is the massive question of the scandals at the National Seminary at Maynooth.

I thought that it was only in countries like Saudi Arabia that the religious leaders use the police to control what the citizens can say.



Amy and others want to shut down the Blog.

But dont have the courage to tackle us directly.

So they use others.

I will of course report on my chat with the PSNI.



DEACON MICHAEL GORGEOUS BYRNE :




I think we all need to be aware that as well as the majority of comments on this Blog that are from sincere comment makers there will be a certain amount of the publication of misinformation by various sides.

The following comments I received from a trusted source:






  • NEW INFO IN FROM ROMAN SOURCE:

    before sending G to room DM interviewed him one to one. He put allegations to G who denied everything.DM then asked G if he would mind his phone being examined - G called his bluff and said of course not taking phone out and passing it to D. D then said its ok that won't be necessary. After meeting G was boasting to friends how he got one over on AB.


    SEE. MANUPULATOR.

  • How many phones, tablets, lap tops has MB?

    Could DM be that stupid / gullable?
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  • NEW INFO FROM DUBLIN PRIEST WHO CLAIMS MAYNOOTH COUNCIL WANTED TO DISMISS MB BUT

    Seminary council in Maynooth had asked archbishop for G to leave because they thought he was too immature. Loud argument was overheard by several people one day between member of seminary council and a priest from Dublin. Dublin priest was heard to say words along the line of "let me make it very clear the archbishop is not suggesting you keep him (Georgeous) he is TELLING you that you will be keeping him"


    WHATS DM' GAME ?????

  • I would advise people to be VERY WARY of comments supporting Gorgeous.

    They are very likely from him and his various cohorts etc.
     

    205 comments:

    1. Well, if they don't like the 'flame thrower' analogy, how about adopting the Trump mantra, 'drain the swamp'? Starting with the Bishops themselves.

      It's obvious, to quote Cpl Jones, that the Bishops "don't like it up 'em". They like to give it, but they can't take it, considering themselves far too far up the food chain to have to take note of criticism from the people who keep them, and their clergy, in the style to which they have become accustomed.

      Keep needling away at them Bishop Pat, and other contributors. It is only when they feel the uncomfortable pebble in their shoe, or wherever, that they might start to think about things seriously, and realise that people are becoming increasingly fed up with their posturing and their antics.

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      1. Are the bishops and formators heterophobic? Even the notion of a married priesthood seems to fill the bishops with a visceral disgust.

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    2. Amy's actions are clearly a sign if the Church's defensive, deluded stance. Nothing can change while this stance is held.Amy needs a module if CPE (chaplain training for those unfamiliar)

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    3. Good morning to you Pat.

      It is abhorrent beyond measure that AB Eamom Martin is now resorting to reporting your blog to the PSNI when he is allowing criminals to run riot in his seminaries and the Irish Church.

      I know for a fact that AB Eamon has received many complaints from good, genuine people about Maynooth recently. And how did he respond? He responded with a generic, insipid, laughable response that he was also very concerned with priestly formation.

      He has done absolutely nothing with regard to the disaster that is Maynooth. He is prepared to just stick his head in the sand and label all the complainers as "trouble-makers" or "rigid" or "conservative catholics".

      So AB Eamon are Fr David Marsden (a fine priest), Mark Dooley (the best philosphy lecturer when in Maynooth and a man who sacrificed his position when reporting the scandals there) Dr Phelim Donnelly (by all accounts an excellent seminarian who gave up a good career to answer God's call) and countless excellent seminarians evicted for having courage and conviction all troublemakers?

      My faith is completely destroyed in the people holding positions of power in the RC Church here. The bishops will not even believe or consider plain photographic evidence, witness reports, plunging seminarian numbers, scandal after scandal, the list goes on to infinitude.

      And to top it all of, Eamon Martin goes running to the PSNI with little girly tittle tattles about a metaphorical comment on your blog.

      I am convinced Pat that AB Eamon Martin is protecting his own kind. As is AB Diarmuid Martin. I am convinced that both of them are gay. Not that it makes any difference, but it is serious if they are compromised in any way and are allowing their orientation to cloud their judgement on some very dangerous people in the Church here.

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      1. Maybe this needs an airing in a public court?

        If we go there I will be issuing summons to peolle like Eamon Martin who I will personally cross examine.

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      2. AB Diarmuid Martin was ruthless with regard to legacy abuse issues when he became Archbishop of Dublin.

        However, his hesitancy regarding Byrne and following through on his promises about priestly formation, as well as all the moving around of some unsavoury characters in his Archdiocese betray the fact that he is not the fearless purger of abuse in the Church that he likes to present himself as being to the media

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    4. You are a laughing stock buckley! I think you spent too much time in the womb. Brain damaged.

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      1. 10:02 otherwise known as Michael Byrne or one of his "buddies", it is you who are making a laughing stock of the Irish Church and good Irish Catholics.

        You are all evil, remorseless, two-faced, lying, manipulative sociopaths.


        And if you don't repent, you will spend an eternity in hell.

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      2. If stuttering Dermo places Byrne in my parish after he is ordained, I will be withdrawing, along with my entire family, from ever attending my local church again. This whole affair is utterly revolting and hideous.

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      3. 10:18

        Lol. Are you still mad you will not get ordained for outing your gay best friend? How is the dole working out for you?

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      4. 10:30. Go to Pat's Church it will suit you and your family.

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      5. Oh don't withdraw just because Gorgeous is your PP. Go in drag or leather.

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      6. Arlene's on fire15 January 2017 at 13:38

        Or get a zimmer frame. You'll be right up Gorgeous' aisle.

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    5. It beggars belief the complete paralysis of both Martins in dealing with their respective issues. They both need to act decisively.

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    6. As usual, shoot the messenger bearing unpleasant news.

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    7. A friend fairly high up in a multinational once told me of a mantra they had been taught on a business leadership course. One can take these things with a pinch of salt as one usually does with business mottos and such training courses though in this case I think it was a very clear and perceptive observation. That is, first rate managers usually pick first rate people to be their subordinates as they realise the load has to be shared and they can do with all the intelligence and originality available. Second rate managers, on the other hand, select third rate subordinates as they are afraid of potential competition and want to keep their own positions secure as what is important for them is their own job security rather than the greater good of the company. I feel that this is exactly the same in the Irish Church in its administration, its pool of clerical talent and its future reserves of talent in the number and quality of seminarians. Of course, these problems are very much a product of secularism and modernity though the Roman and Irish Church do seem to unnecessarily compound all these problems even more by their recruitment and promotion practices. Thyraeus.

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    8. Would the last seminarian out of Maynooth kindly switch off the lights and log out of Grindr and Silverdaddies?15 January 2017 at 10:16

      What a farce. It's the bishops, with their moving paedo priests around, the wounded healer, confidentiality agreements, the priests such as Brendan Smyth and Jack McCabe which have provoked no end of hatred for the Irish church. And to this we can add the disgust expressed here about the antics of Coyle, Marshall, King Puck, and the star of the show, Gorgeous.

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    9. I think most perceptive people can see what is really going on in the Church in Ireland. It is overrun and ruled by a gay cabal. Simple.

      The Church is finished here for a long time.

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      1. The mounting evidence would certainly suggest that that's the case.

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      2. Nothing to do with a gay cabal. And everything to do with an entirely dysfunction seminary infested with modernism. You can see the consequences of all that in the viciously queeny comments in today's blog, where character is regularly assassinated.

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    10. Did Amy's safeguarding chap ever perform the gay Gordon's for him.

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    11. Question Pat -


      What happened with all the information you got on Declan Hasson and him being in a relationship with a girl who lived in Maynooth? Did you only go after gay seminarians?

      P. Trehy

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      1. I spoke to DH in person. He had the honesty to leave Maynooth when he discovered celibacy was not for him.

        Look up my blogs on Father Ciaran Dallat of Down and Connor who made a parishioner pregnant 2 years ago.

        Look up my blog on the rape of a lady by 5 priests.

        I see no difference between priests who misbehave sexually - straight or gay.

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      2. 10:33


        That does not count because she looked like a man. Declan could have done better. Buckley should get his hands on those pictures. Lol

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      3. Pat, Declan was asked to leave because he got caught! He was sleeping with girls from the roost for months and someone turned him in. The staff challenged him and he was thrown out. He wanted to use the Church for his degree because his family lost their business. Just google it. He was caught out in the end and the church did not pay for his degree. Then his friend from derry outed and embarrassed a gay young guy who was his 'best' friend. Thats why he was kicked out. It was nothing to do with a gay group.

        I am happy declan went to see you to share all that infromation. Thank you for clearing that up Pat. Can I email you some intresting things? What is your email?

        P. Trehy

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      4. I have a large collection of puctures, documents, texts and emails.

        I never said that DH was St Declan.

        None if us are saints.

        But thank God few of us are manipulators, liars or determined on evil.

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      5. When I met Declan I found him honest about himself and he hid nothing.

        We have all failed. But when we are honest about it we have intrgrity.

        I wish Michael Byrne was as honest as Declan.

        He lied to me for 2 hours when we communicated last summer.

        My email address is: bishopbuckley1@outlook.com

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      6. I agree. I only wanted to know did you treat the straight seminarians sleeping around like the gay ones. Declan manipulated many girls in Maynooth. One was my friend who is still hurt by what he did to her.

        P. Trehy

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      7. If Declan or any other straight seminarian misbehaved or hurt a girl I cindemn it as LOUDLY as a gay seninarian misbehaving or hurting.

        Since 1992 I have run a support group called Bethany for women hurt by priests.

        So far I have met 120 of them.

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      8. Utter nonsense about Declan sleeping around and being expelled!

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    12. Laughing stock? No. the laughing stock are The House Martins and Deacon Blue.

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    13. truth? Does Michael Byrne wear boxers or briefs?

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      1. All the guys in the wash room would know. Ask them!

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    14. The fact that you're allowing those comments regarding Declan is despicable. This is just the Maynooth boys trying to deflect attention. Don't be drawn in by their lies!

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      1. That they're using Paul Trehy's name as a sign off shows the complete cowardice and malice of these people.

        Don't feed their lies!

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      2. 11:07 what is the problem with being out in the open about declan? He is an honest guy no?

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      3. You know it is peter trehy! He is going to stand up for his friend and you cannot stop that.

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      4. This invasion of the privacy of an individual is disgraceful, and it is a disgrace of Pat to publish these comments. He is not in the seminary, and what he did while he was there is not your business nor is it mine. There is a line to be drawn between what is in the public interest (and therefore might be published) and what is private information - this story does not pass the public interest test. It is disappointing because this blog comes up with some great stuff, then it descends into a gossipy National Enquirer type farce.

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      5. Declan's friends are still in seminary. They knew of Declan's behaviour and they said nothing! Yet the attacked gay seminarians for the very same thing there own friend was doing. The only difference? They were gay and Declan was not.
        In my very humble opinion my dear boy, that is in the public interest to know. It shows the DOUBLE standard Declan's friends had!!!

        It seems you are all nervous and are jumping to his defence. What are YOU hiding?

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      6. 12:17

        Pat will publish what he thinks is of interest. He does not follow YOUR rules. It is clear you are a friend of declan. Pat, do you think Declan's friends are a little defensive today? They always supported your dedication to the truth and now they are shouting you down. Hmmmmmm

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      7. Jumping to the defence of someone being slandered is not evidence of hiding something.

        Using Paul Trehy's name to attack Declan Hasson is a sign that those wishing to deflect attention are sinister and devious!

        I think either Byrne (or his friends) are deflecting attention, or there are a number of boys in Maynooth getting very nervous that they are next on Buckley's list!

        I think you boys need to look closer to home. All I'll say is that there's no honour among thieves! Who's saving their own skin?

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      8. I highly doubt that Paul Trehy or any other seminarian for that matter would sign their name at the end of a comment on your blog Pat - especially after Fanny Mullaney's threats to sue seminarians who bring the college into disrepute (i.e. seminarians who uncover the truth about the filth in Maynooth seminary) and his constant harping on about blogs and gossip!

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    15. I was out with my work colleagues over Christmas who all have no time for the Church after the sex-abuse scandals and the recent "goings-on". They view Maynooth as a hiding ground for gays and weirdos. While this is not necessarily a completely fair analysis, there is only a tiny minority of sound, balanced and genuine seminarians there.

      Sarah McDonald said the following yesterday in the Irish Independent:

      "No matter what spin the bishops give their ad limina visit in Rome, the crisis of priesthood in the Irish Church is irrefutable.

      This latest tawdry affair underlines the extent to which there is something deeply wrong with the calibre of young men currently attracted to the priesthood.

      It begs the question, does a dysfunctional system create dysfunctional people, or do dysfunctional people create a dysfunctional system?"

      In response to Sarah I would say that there is a symbiotic relationship between the dysfunctional people in Maynooth and the dated dysfunctional system that is St Patrick's Seminary formation process. Characters like Byrne, Jones, Derwin, Coyle, Marshall, McElroy etc. are enabled and protected by the Seminary Council who are themselves dysfunctional, institutionalised products of a dysfunctional system.

      When the grey heads and blue rinses disappear from the pews over the next decade, it is only then that the bishops will regret that they did not take action sooner on Maynooth when they see tumbleweed blowing through their churches with not a body in sight.

      That is if the bishops really care or have any sense of a conscience or desire of handing on the Faith.

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      1. Currently they DO NOT CARE.

        And they want to use the police to shut me up and silence debate.

        Is that the job of the police?

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      2. Pat

        Be carful. I am sure all your friends here will come to your aid. What about declan will he come forward with all the infomation he gave you when the police get involved?

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      3. Based on the comments and accounts here about current seminarians, Sarah McDonald is dead right about their low calibre. She also suggested sending seminarians to work with the poor in order to really test their vocations. For the likes of Byrne, the priesthood is all about posing in pictures with clerical garb, and receiving gifts from sugar-daddies as benefits in kind for sexual favours given. And worse according to yesterday's Indo article.

        Put Byrne and the other little queens out into the slums Dermo and see how long they last.

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      4. What about the latin mass queens?

        Declan (Shorty)
        Conan (I did not see anything)
        Declan (The Queen)
        Paul (The slow one)
        And let us not forget poor innocent Tom (The Stalker)

        Pat, these seminarians all go to the latin mass. They love dressing up in lace and they like to pretend to be straight. On Saturday they go to the Latin Mass in a dublin parish and their daddy Father Gerard Deighan brings them for breakfast. Do you know who also joins them? Fr. David Marsden. Are you seeing the connections Pat?They are all vicious bitches!

        You are welcome!

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      5. It's amazing, Anon.13:22 how Declan (the Queen as you call him) is able to get to Latin Mass in Dublin on Saturdays, given that he's in Rome this past year and a half. Last I heard, Fr. Marsden isn't in the country either, so it's probably a bit difficult for him to join them for breakfast. And last time I checked, neither going to Mass nor having breakfast with a priest were morally questionable acts - and you want Pat to see "the connections" as if they were on a par with the actions and deceptions of the Grindr clerics!

        Wonder too how you know they "love dressing up in lace" since lace is practically banned in Maynooth - plain surplices only on the two days or so that Maynooth seminarians actually wear the soutane.

        Vicious bitches? Some might apply that term to those who write blatant untruths, and deflect from the real issue by trying to implicate people in this mess simply because the Mass nourishes them spiritually (as the Mass should nourish every Catholic spiritually). I suppose the seminarians who pray the rosary are really the ones behind the disgrace that is Maynooth seminary, are they?

        You are welcome!

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    16. It is Peter Trehy he studies philosophy in Maynooth. I knew this was going to happen. The girls that declan hurt were eventually going to turn on him. Tut Tut

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      1. 11:39

        I was wondering how long declan and his friends would get away it. This should be interesting.

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      2. You really are a disgusting low low-life liar, trying to hide your identity now by 'getting Paul's name wrong'! Obviously the narrative was getting to close to home!

        Don't be fooled by this ploy!

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        Declan's friends are very defensive today.

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    17. Pat continue in your search for truth. Reporting you to the PSNI - think it shows they are worried and also demonstrates they are ready the blog so therefore are aware of what is going on and cant come back and say they were not aware?

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    18. Wonder how the boys trip to Roma is going sure it must be like Disney land for them?

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    19. Is that really peter? He goes out partying with all the girls every weekend in Maynooth. Blonde hair?

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    20. Fact 1: If people want to identify themselves by name rather than a cyber-handle they can input their google details. Until then a name written at the end of an anon post is not a verified name.

      Fact 2: Pat has had blogs on heterosexual priests who misbehave.

      Fact 3: this Declan chap didn't present for ordanation like MB and GF did.

      Fact 4: there are several posts today aimed at steering comments away from the blog.

      Fact 5: the focus on Amy and DM underplays the role of Charlie Browne who is key in culture building and should be sent home. A nuncio is but a church word for Ambassador and the Government should give him his papers back and send him home.

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      1. Declan would have presented for ordination if the girls did not sell him out. Do not make out that he left of his own accord. He was crying in his room with his 'friends' and he swore 'vengeance!'

        Lol

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    21. Pat have you ever spoken to amy?

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    22. Pat, why did you not report on Ronan Sheehan? You seem to mix and match

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      1. Interesting name mind you

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      2. Yeah why was he never mentioned?

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      3. Cork student, caught in bed with fellow student by his friend from Derry. He remains in formation. Facebook him. Interesting boy, strange but interesting

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      4. Ask Conan McGonagle who he is...

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    23. I'm sure there would be a struggle to find some criminal activity on this blog. It is clearly aimed at outing people who don't keep their vows or live up to their own professes standards.

      Sounds like the PSNI will be having a good read today. Many eyes will be open and Amy will have done his part in spreading the truth by drawing more attention to your thread.

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      1. Social media can be a venue for crimes such as stalking or harassment. Unlike claims of libel there are no defences of truth, fair comment or public interest. If Bishop Pat is prosecuted then it would be best for him to have professional advice, funded by the support of his followers, rather than try to go it alone. Athlone Andy

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    24. Bishop Pat I am truly shocked that the Archbishop of Armagh has gone squealing to the Police. I thought that era was over but obviously not. We will not forget the sterling work you carried out in the H Blocks. Keep shining the light into the darkness and don't let the Princess' of the Church deflect you from your special mission.
      B O' Neill (Meigh)

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    25. Reporting to PSNI is pretty but predictable. When clergy in Sligo got worried about me it is alleged one went to the Sligo Champion to put the squeeze on me. The Church needs to face it's Desmond and not run scared hoping to gain breathing space.

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    26. Arlene's on fire15 January 2017 at 13:36

      The mention of Trehy (Clogher diocese) recalls two memories. The first is a foursome fundraiser climb up Croagh Patrick. The second is Bishop Joseph "Joe" Duffy. He went straight from curate to bishop. An autustic gaelige scholar more suited to a library than a parish. But his chief crime was the handling of the Fr John "Jack" McCabe. He was one of the priest teachers at St Michael's College, Enniskillen, in his day still a boarding school. Went to prison for grooming a 14 year old, admittedly not a pupil at the school, but Jack had him stay there overnight. Joe, who squatted on the Clogher cathedra for decades, wreckovating Monaghan cathedral along the way, deployed the usual tactic. When the victim's family complained the boul Joe didn't move Jack to the nearest RUC barracks. A nice wee parish was got for Jack. These episcopal enablers should be arrested as accessories or under the legal principle of joint enterprise.

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      1. Yes. Now that would be a proper investigation for the PSNI and the Garda.

        The Wounded Healer should be the first questioned.

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    27. Has anyone noticed how Byrne has his eyebrows done very effeminate? How can he expect anyone to think he is not gay? His look is an advert. Imagine how some men would give him the eye if he used a public toilet!!

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      1. Michael Byrne told me he outed himself as gay to his family when he was 14.

        He also told me he told Diarmuid Martin from the beginning he was gay.

        I dont think he has hidden the fact that he is gay.

        Has he?

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      2. Byrne was out. It made him a target. Do you think all them Latin mass queens were happy with an openly gay man in seminary???

        Can i ask you a question Pat? Where people happy with you in seminary Pat? Or did the nasty law abiding latin mass gang get you kicked out?

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      3. When I was in seminary - 1970 - 1976 there was no latin mass gang.

        We were all firmly behind Vatican 11.

        I was dismissed from Clonliffe in June 1973 for not attending some boring lectures and for occasionally sleeping in.

        I got on very well in St John's Waterford - Sept 1973 - June 1976 - and was ordained there.

        Dring my time in both seminaries there was little homosexual activity - but it was more prominent in Clonliffe than in Waterford.

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      4. Pat I hope you see past this ridiculous attempt to deflect your attention. Your obviously getting to close for comfort!

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      5. Catholics went to the Latin Mass for about a thousand years. All of them were a bunch of queens evidently. They should have introduced the manly new Mass much earlier, because there's nothing more manly than crooning lullabies, getting in touch with yourself and listening to some cod-psychology in an ugly chapel, all the while looking at the priest as he presides over the supper and entertains his audience. All that feminised sacrificial offering nonsense downplayed in favour of those masculine flowing nighties they call vestments.

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      6. Don't worry. I am aware. So are most others.

        Former seminarians in Civvy Street are different that current seminarians.

        As far as I am concerned until the Roman Church which is part of institutionalised Christianity changes its rules ALL seminarians are called to be SEXUALLY INACTIVE.

        The ones who are not - gay or straight - according to their own rules should LEAVE or be THROWN OUT.

        Its that simple.

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      7. Is lace not more effeminate than cotton?

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      8. It is much less distracting. Particularly when the cotton nightie is flowing around the sanctuary to the strains of some weepy muzak, while blood flows from the ears of the victim-congregation.

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      9. 14:43, you're obviously a liturgical snob, who looks down his beak at those who don't appreciate his taste in liturgy and music.

        What has your attitude to do with Christ? You are proof that liturgical form, whether traditionalist or not, has no bearing on a person's character: their level of Christian love.

        Why don't you forget about form and concentrate instead on substance...on what really matters: Do I show love to fellow human beings?

        Love isn't imparted by liturgy, but by Christ's spirit: the Holy Spirit.

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      10. @15.40, on the basis of my liturgical preferences, you have in your heart judged that I am a person who does not demonstrate Christ's love? How did you arrive at that conclusion? And in so judging on the basis of nothing, what love have you shown? Let me help you out - it is on the basis of YOUR prejudice.

        The Mass is a convocation of God. God commands us to come to Mass to worship Him. It is not there to allow us, ministerial priest or common priest, to express our personality. Its sole function is the worship of God, and a happy side-effect of such glorification is that we are blessed when instead of focusing on the distractions of vain priests imparting their personalities, our hearts, souls and minds are lifted to heaven.

        Having our spirits so lifted, we are then granted grace which assists us and helps us to live out the moral life taught by Our Lord and to love others. For you, it appears that the love of God and a desire to worship Him in a worthy manner is somehow separated from the love of others. For you to assert that a desire to worship God as God has asked (indeed, commanded) us to worship Him, and that the Liturgy is a mere personal preference is absurd.

        Such glorification of God does not require an attachment to the 1962 liturgical books. But if you are asking me to endorse the clown Masses, liturgical dancing, the banal and tedious liturgies that drive people away from a love of God and their fellow man - that, I cannot do.

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      11. As I said, you're a 'liturgical snob'. Snobbery, of any sort, does not equate with the love we are expected, as Christians, to show all.

        Snobbery does not, and cannot, accept that all are equal in the sight of Christ because, for whatever reason, it holds some in disdain. Where is the love Christ 'COMMANDED' (your preferred word) expressed here?

        You clearly have preference for a certain liturgical form; nothing wrong in that. But there is something seriously wrong in denouncing other preferred liturgical forms as 'clown Masses, liturgical dancing, the banal and tedious liturgies that drive people away from a love of God and their fellow man...' Are these preferences disallowed? Is it just you and your kind who should be permitted to pick and choose forms of worship? And how do you know that those other forms of worship are themselves driving people away from God? You know nothing of the kind, but prefer to think it so. And you accuse me of prejudice?

        As for 'clown' Masses? Wow! I'm sure that one will please Jesus. It's the first time I've heard a traditionalist Catholic (who invariably present themselves as Christ's most loyal disciples) describe Jesus' self-sacrifice as clownish. Do you now understand why I called you out on love? If this is how your preference for traditionalist liturgy inspires you to think of Christ's redemptive death, then you really are drawn by form rather than by substance: by what really matters, love. Or are you arrogant enough to believe that only your preferred commemoration of the Last Supper is sacramentally valid?

        As for your uninformed idea that God commands we worship him in a certain way (which for you, of course, is in a traditionalist manner), go back to the Gospel; read it and reflect on it. When Jesus instructed (note 'instructed', not 'commanded'. You traditionalists love dictatorship.), he did so as the JEWISH RITE OF PASSOVER. So why aren't you advocating this? Oh, I see: it isn't your preferred liturgical form, is it? So much for your observance of God's 'commands'.

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      12. I'm a liturgical snob, you're a clown. Google 'clown Mass' to enlighten yourself. You seriously thought that was what I meant by a 'clown Mass'? Catch yourself on. I think that like Arlene you have had your love glasses on, and they have distorted reality. As for love, you aren't showing any, so get off your rather judgemental high horse.

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      13. 19:12, I do know what 'Clown Mass' means. You, however, expressed the term in lower-case C, as 'clown Mass'; this means something very different, since it refers to ALL Masses under the new order, that is, post-Vatican 11 Masses.

        'Clown Mass', properly speaking, refers to a Mass that was offered once...for circus clowns. It wasn't a disrespectful act, anymore that clerics who dress up in gorgeous vestments is a disrespectful act. However, the expression has been used by people like you to 'knock' the order of Mass post-Vatican 11.

        So I'm a 'clown'. Again, wow! You're really piling on the love here. A model Christian. Truth is you're a nasty, intolerant, embittered someone who is 'hung up' on liturgical art forms rather than the love of Christ. May God help you.

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      14. You still do not appear to have bothered to undertake a google search and acquainted yourself with sacrilegious clown/Clown Masses. To help you along, Bishop Pat has himself lambasted this type of liturgy in a post in the latter part of last year. So the idea that only more orthodox Catholic like me (I am not a traditionalist) find the whole thing repulsive, is wide of the mark.

        I can, however, see your loving attitude shining through the pedantry, the supercilious comments, the insistence on your personal liturgical preferences over the rubrics and traditions of the church, and the failure to note that I had earlier said that authentic liturgy did not entail an attachment to the 1962 liturgical books (that's "Pre-Vatican 2" to use the language of the hermeneutic of rupture brigade.

        Learn some love, learn to love and trust in the wisdom of the Church in guiding the liturgy, learn some humility to know that you do not know better than the Church, and learn to be less supercilious. Then you can speak about love. At the moment, your words of love and your comments are not in sync. You speak as one desperate to point out the speck in the eye of the other, while having a plank in your own.

        This last gasp of the 1980s liturgical crowd that is dying out rapidly really is exasperating. You have had your day, you failed the people of God, now make room for the future.

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      15. You poor fool. I don't mean this disparagingly. I have come across so many like you on the 'net. People who chase after form rather than substance. People who are really latter-day Pharisees. But you will not see you fault! Therein lies moral culpability.

        Remember you won't be asked, on Judgement Day, what particular liturgical form you preferred, but whether you loved all, especially your enemies. NOTHING in your posts would draw me to Christ if I were a pagan.

        By the way, the 'Church' is not the bishops, but the ENTIRE Body of Christ. You have made a certain model of church your God rather than the God of any model.

        I have had my day? Now make room for the future? If it involves anything like your ecclesiology, then God help us all! It will represent the return of Pharisaism. And we know what Jesus thought of that, don't we? No, whoever you are. you're on a hiding to nothing. And thank God for it.

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      16. I do have sympathy for your position, as I do understand how painful it must be to see your cherished positions challenged when you live within a theologically liberal echo-chamber and are unused to be being challenged. Liturgical committees all over the island are regularly in anguish when they learn that no-one wants their insipid man-made liturgies, but that God's people thirst after the divine, and recoil at the vanity of the Liturgical Terrorists. But as you scrabble around 'seeking new ways of doing Church' and adapting yourself to every fad and fashion that comes along, we will continue building, continue preaching the gospel of Jesus Christ and holding fast to the tradition that was passed down to us by the Apostles and passing on what we have received.

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    28. 13:40


      It would seem that the vast majority of comments made about Michael are about his appearance.

      I am a straight man and I do not care about eyebrows. Why do you care so much? These type of comments suggest that you are jealous of him and that you are gay?

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      1. No. Read the material again. The vast majority of comments about Gorgeous are regarding his immmoral behaviour.

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    29. What about seminarians who make false allegations? Should they be kicked out if it is true?

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      1. False allegations made out of mallitiousness should be treated as if the accuser was guilty

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    30. Pat, some of us I'm sure would like to send a little support your way - particularly if you are to engage in court with these morons. Can you put up a Please Donate via Paypal sign on the blog? Do you take Paypal donations to your email address? Let us know. I want to chip in to help you combat the Church 'leaders' - actually a bunch of old farts with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

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      1. As well as Antisocial Personality Disorder preying on vulnerable people. Wolves dressed as sheep.

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      2. Dear Zero Time, thank you for your kind thought and I will see if a Paypal button can be placed on the Blog.

        I have been asked by readers before to do it as they would like to help and support.

        I am hoping that it will not go to court.

        I appreciate your thoughtfulness.

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      3. Pat, will you please pray for my mum! She died tonight.

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      4. Oh Dear ! Of course I will. What is her first name?

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      5. Thank you, Pat. Her name is Patricia.

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    31. Any idea how the ROman cowboys are getting on.

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    32. Surely the argument for G’s dismissal is the following:

      DM is pro gay people but anti Grindr since it promotes a promiscuous lifestyle and attitude to sex.

      G was on an app similar to Grindr and has allegedly been engaging in promiscuous activity with gentleman and in communication with them until relatively recently.

      Ergo DM must dismiss G.

      Otherwise DM must go on RTE News and explain that he meant students for the priesthood in all other dioceses, except in his own diocese.

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      1. Unless DM took the somewhat revolutionary position that merely because a man has sinned does not mean that he should be condemned for ever? Rather like Pope Francis in Amoris Laetitia, who has said obliquely that the divorced and civilly remarried who are in an objectively adulterous relationship should be allowed to take communion. I certainly do not subscribe to the Buckley Doctrine, which holds that if a man is a seminarian or priest and falls into sin, he should be shamed publicly and repeatedly and that he may never ever again or in the future exercise priestly ministry unless he has been subjected to the most abject humiliation, and from that position of abject humiliation, makes a craven apology to the supposedly merciful people of God. This doctrine is, of course, entirely erroneous and indeed hypocritical in its genesis. The origins of the Buckley Doctrine lie not in the tradition of the Church or the scriptures, but rather derive from a celebrity culture of public shaming prevalent in the early 21st century.

        I don't think DM's position is too difficult to understand. Yesterday's revelations, if proven to be true, are another matter of course.

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      2. Buckley has no problem with sinners getting new chances as he himself is and always has been a great sinner.

        But Buckley has a problem with cynical and manipulative tom cats using priesthood as a social / sexual tool who use their looks etc to charm old birds off trees so that they can play with them and eventually destroy them and cast them aside.

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      3. @17:14
        Sinners are fine. However, people with a predisposition to using apps for promiscuous sex ought to be shown the door. The AB intimated that that's a rule of his on the News. Ergo G ought to be shown the door.

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      4. Obviously, and for some yet to be explained reason, G is an exception to the rule.

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      5. Yet Buckley today permitted the printing of the name of a seminarian allegedly engaging in sexual activity with a fellow seminarian, but it was apparent that Buckley had never heard of him. Just one example. There are countless others. So how did Buckley arrive at the assessment that the seminarian is a "cynical and manipulative tom cat" and deem it morally acceptable to submit him to public shame?

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      6. Wrong. I believe that the two seminarians whom Conan saw in bed together were testing a new range of mattresses for Marks and Spencers and M&S were in return giving a large donation to the renovation ok Knock Basilica.

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      7. @Bishop Buckley
        Possibly because (in fairness to G) there are a few Dublin priests on Grindr. Ehats good for the goose is good for the gander?

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      8. and a few religious on Squirt.org

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      9. @Bishop Buckley @17:49 - this is a red herring and completely off topic. Scroll back up. One new person was named today - you said clearly you never heard of him. But you thought fit to publish allegations you knew nothing about. You don't know if they are true. Neither do I. Please explain how, when you had never heard of someone, you were able to judge them a manipulative tom cat and subject them to public humiliation? In Christian conscience, as a Christian leader, do you honestly think it is morally defensible?

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      10. I was not referring to the "one new person named today" as a tom cat.

        I was referring to another person who is "in the news".

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      11. Yes, but the point is, you have publicly shamed a person with no knowledge of the facts. This is what I have called the Buckley Doctrine. I simply cannot understand how you can consider this defensible. Even if that story were true, all we have heard about was a situation of sin. Granted, that would not be appropriate. But is it appropriate for public consumption? Why was it acceptable to permit that person to be named?

        There is a world of difference between a lapse, and those who persistently abuse the system. With respect, you have consistently failed to respect that difference.

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      12. @18:48 what new person was named? You seem to have missed the point. Being gay is fine once you keep it in your trousers. THe AB is against people on apps since the apps promote promiscuity and NSA. Let me further say that there'd be an awful lot more priests if you were allowed have a lapse every now and again. Everyone in the George could join up

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      13. @20:51

        When O’Brien stepped down, he admitted he had been sexually active throughout his time in the Church and probably never used any apps. Mind you, maybe he does now.

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    33. Pat - I clearly recall a situation in Pugin Hall with a senior cleric, from Dublin, challenging Paul Prior over the seminary council's decision to let Michael Byrne take some 'time-out'. But that was back in 2010. This conflict was witnessed by quite a few seminarians. Fr Liam Rigney, who represents the AB and Dublin seminarians at the time, approached Paul Prior at a table in Pugin Hall where we were all sitting having a break, and asked to talk with him. They went further up the hall but could be clearly heard as their exchange became heated. It appeared a council decision had been made preventing Byrne returning and resuming his studies the following year, citing "immaturity" as the reason. He obviously had fallen-out with Prior and Collins (?). Byrne also had made false allegations against other seminarians which proved to be lies and would not have helped his cause. In the end LR informed PP that the AB was not asking them to change their position but "telling" them. We all left at that stage as the atmosphere was very tense. We all assumed that Michael's Pro-Cathedral Mentor had contacted the AB to get the council's decision overturned. It appears it worked. AB unwisely tends to surrender to administrators and parish priests demands just to keep the peace. I'm sure he regrets this one? But this was in April/May 2010 after Michael had just completed his first year in Maynooth.

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      1. Is there any way we can confirm that for a journalist who is digging deeper???

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      2. So Prior & Collins thought that Byrne was immature in 2010?

        Well what about Puck & Derwin and their chums??Why were they not deemed immature as well?

        This story doesn't stack up Pat because Byrne was Prior's main mole when in Maynooth. I find it risible that Liam Rigney would confront Prior in Pugin Hall about such a matter.

        I would be very doubtful of the above story Pat.

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      3. Maybe Father Prior might post a comment confirming / denying this story?

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      4. My earlier post must have gone missing Pat!

        I was saying that the above story cannot be true - or at least it did not happen when Anon.17:03 says - because Byrne was not in Maynooth at that stage. Anon.17:03's account means that Byrne would have entered Maynooth in August 2009, but he didn't till 2011. Also, Collins did not start as director of deformation until 2011.

        By time Byrne started, Prior was senior director of deformation, so I don't know why a priest would have had a go at him. I also find it hard to believe that Fr Liam Rigney would challenge either Prior or Collins so publicly in such a place as Pugin Hall - the idea of Prior sitting around drinking tea with seminarians in Pugin is also hard to believe. I don't remember this incident being discussed among seminarians - if what Anon.17:03 is saying were true, this story would have been told and retold, particularly at the rate gossip spreads through the seminary.

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    34. I know nothing more Pat, but Liam Rigney might be prepared to put some light on the story if contacted, as parish priest of Maynooth, he was appointed the Dublin seminarians 'handler', as it were. It appeared to us that the senior cleric and confidant of Michael Byrne, Fr Damien O'Reilly of the Pro-Cathedral, was pulling all the strings behind the scenes. If you'll excuse the pun!

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      1. Interesting and enlightening.

        We can see what the puppeteer was doing for the puppet.

        I wonder what the puppet was doing for the puppeteer?

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    35. Pat, i remember Fr Michael Collins (Maynooth) was very friendly with a Joe Collins who was a year ahead. Where is Joe now? He was Cashel and Emly diocese. Anyone?

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      1. Anyone know anything about Joe?

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      2. A western priest, currently on leave, might fill you in. Didn't he have a lot to say about them both when they were all in middle house?

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      3. Joe Collins is now a married man. He left the priesthood. Thought to be fair we all know who his boss was. Enough said.

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      4. Did he marry a man or a woman? Not that it makes any difference. But just to clarify.

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      5. He married a woman.

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    36. The thing with Maynooth is that there is more smoke coming from that place than a bush fire in Oz. The bishops just need to close the frigging place down and conduct a comprehensive investigation of all current seminarians and staff members. They need to figure out exactly what is going on before admitting any more new seminarians and making any new appointments such as a new president etc.

      Judging by many comments here one can easily infer that there is no prayerful or charitable spirit among seminarians, which in itself speaks volumes about their formation, example given by priests and the current atmosphere there.

      The reports last year of there being a poisonous atmosphere in St Pat's certainly appears to be the case based on all the bitching and name calling seen here.

      I shudder to think that some of these guys are even considering to be priests.

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      1. The bishops can't fixed a problem which, at root, they caused. Same as with the child sex abuse catastrophe. Yes there were perpetrators. The difficulty is that they were enabled by their bishops. The rot starts from the top. Shut the whole thing down and sell the Vatican Library to the British Museum, for cataloguing - my advice.

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    37. JUST IN FROM DUBLIN ARCHDIOCESE SOURCE

      "Liam Rigney is Dublin priest who had row with Prior".

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      1. Michael Collins was Michael's formation director in first year. The argument would have been with him and not prior. Maybe the argument was over a different seminarian???

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      2. Either way Michael seems more malformed than formed!

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        Collins may have been his dean/director. But the Council who make such decisions are made up of the deans and some of the staff. So they all would have been culpable to that priest who was allegedly shouting at PP

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    38. Prior and Collins were enamoured by Byrne in his first year - that is very true. However, it was obvious that something happened before the end of the year that appeared to turn them against Byrne. That story of asking him to leave is true. Byrne brazenly told people of the seminary council's desire and laughed in their face - behind their backs of course, stating he was going nowhere. In the meantime, Byrne returned the following term and the Formation Twins (PP&MC) understood that Byrne was truly untouchable. That was my reading of the story.

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      1. That begs the question: "WHY IS BYRNE UNTOUCHABLE"?

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    39. What a fake story. All those meetings always happened in private for every seminarian. Maynooth always loved 'Gorgeous'. Do not be daft Pat! They keep giving you fake stories and you keep falling for it. Lol

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      1. I am falling for nothing.

        Let different people have their say.

        When the mist settles we will hopefully know the truth.

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      2. Pat,

        The story does not match up. Collins was michaels director for 3 years. If liam was to argue with anyone it would be him and not prior. The story is either made up or it was a different seminarian. Maybe it was chris derwin? Prior would have been HIS formation dorector.

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      3. Was Prior not Senior Formator?

        Maybe he and Collins discussed MB and made a joint council decision?

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      4. The problem would have been with HIS formation director. All the meetings for Dublin students took place privately in liams house. Everyone knows that who has been in Maynooth. I call BS...just an opinion from an ex seminarian

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      5. It is not completely true that Maynooth "always loved Gorgeous". The seminary council - Hughie, Fanny, Prior and Collins - did threaten not to give him the office of reader in his second year. He did get it in the end, though...so there must have been some kind of intervention or perhaps a compromise.

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    40. 17:46 is right - Byrne was Paul Prior's main mole - but poor Michael, after winning Prior's confidence made fools of him and Collins in the end. Byrne, with his new secret power lost the run of himself (does it ring a bell?) decided to make up stories which proved false (ring any other bells?). This is the pattern of Byrne's life. Will he ever learn.

      "You can fool all the people some of the time, and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time". Abraham Lincoln

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    41. I hope the media will return to this whole story. The story went off the radar and obviously nothing was done in the interim. All the main players and villains of the piece seem still in situ.

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    42. Though hopefully a better journalist than the obviously anti-Catholic Sarah McDonald.

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      1. I think that Sarah Mc Donald is a fine journalist and is more pro truth than anti anyone.

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      2. Sarah MacDonald is the editor of the Far East magazine. I presume she's Catholic. I've never read anything anti-Catholic by her. If challenging the cover up and abuse of power within the church is anti-Catholic, then the same accusation could be levelled at doctor of the Church St Catherine of Siena.

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    43. Anyone think we will have new bishops by the end of the month following the visit to Roma? I could do with a day out to Gammarellis in Rome

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    44. Pat will you have to attend your nearest police station? I doubt this will ever make it to court.
      Biddy

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    45. 18:11 is partly right. These encounters between senior clerics do normally happen behind closed doors. What was omitted early is that Rigney had received an email from Prior, stating his refusal to accept the archdiocese's advise regarding Byrne. It was shortly after Rigney received the email, in his Maynooth home, when he came hunting for Prior. He was fuming and could not contain himself after sighting him - a red rag to a bull rather than a red herring story. Obviously his temper couldn't wait until they were alone? These outbursts of anger and pride rarely happened as these fellows had their masks fairly secured to their faces.

      However, does anyone else remember another weak moment incident with Monsignor Hugh Connolly? The wonderful and competent Pugin Hall manageress Dervla, had accepted a booking from the North Campus to use Pugin Hall while the seminarians were dining, one evening. Somebody obviously went into the Professors Refectory, where Hughie dined and informed him of a packed house next door? The Apostolic Visitation had directed that seminarians and real people should not eat together in case of contamination concerns!

      Rather than Hughie bringing her aside, in either her office or his the next day, he let rip at her in front of everybody in the hall. It was one of the most embarrassing and sad moments to witness, leaving her devastated and humiliated. He completely lost his temper over this trivial oversight - the booking was taken a year in advance. He roared and shouted like a spoilt brat - and he the President of the College. The place went silent. Temper vented, his fix for the day complete, Hughie stormed off in a huff. Hughie's behaviour was disgraceful. I know Prior and Collins were subject to these outbursts in his office - but that's another story. The projection of Hughie in the German bunker video clip is more real than people could imagine.

      My point is that sometimes these fellows let their guard down, in public.

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    46. Amy should get his own diocese in Armagh in order before running to the police and wasting their time with tittle tattle. He looks pathetic getting someone to do it on his behalf, spineless! What's he doing about Rory Coyle, Fr X and other perverts on his own doorstep?

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    47. What about Conan, Marshall & Sheehan? When will Conan get justice done??

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    48. Is that you Timmo at 18:43?

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    49. Always an interesting thread. I still believe that more needs to be done about Byrne and other seminarians. Has all documentation regarding Byrne unsuitability for priesthood being dispatched to media sources. If not it should be done as soon as possiblein order to clear up this mess and inform people who are unaware of the vermin posing as clerics. More assistance is required from all parts.

      Regards, ICM

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    50. ******

      MASSIVE MISINFORMATION BEING LAUNCHED

      TODAY BY CHURCH PEOPLE MOTIVATED BY

      FEAR OF WHAT MIGHT COME OUT

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      1. We want justice for Conan Pat!

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    51. How did your retreat in Donegal go Pat?

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      1. You can't have been close to Jesus. He would disown you and your evil crusade.

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    52. ANY INFORMATION ABOUT SEMINARIAN BENNET

      - information about African seminarian called Bennet - now a priest in Australia

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    53. Some people on here this evening seem to think it should all be forgiven. BUT, many a seminarian was caught over the years in Maynooth and was shown the door. That is the way it was always dealt with.
      Just because seminarians are now being caught with their trousers down by members of the public, commentators (possibly preiests) on here think they should be 'forgiven'.
      How about the conference of bishops sets up a compensation fund for all the gays they allowed be shown the door in the past who were caught?
      All it would take would be one to take a case and open the door for compensation for all.
      The case of G and AB Martin could be used as an example.
      Money usually talks as far as the bishops are concerned

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    54. We expect a blog on Ronan Sheehan from Cork? Justice for Conan

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      1. Stop naming individuals if you're going to hide behind anonymity. You certainly don't speak for Conan!

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      2. +Donal should have stopped this but poor Conan got the chop. Kick Ronan and the others out.

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      3. My theory is that someone with something to hide is trying to avert your attention because you are getting too close Pat.
        Earlier they tried to defame DH and others but after that was shown to be a red herring they decided to throw you someone else.
        Earlier they used the name 'P. Trehy' as a cover, now they're making it look like it's one of Conan's friends attacking Ronan.
        Don't fall for it Pat!

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    55. SEX WITH NUN IN CARLOW?

      Maybe just ask if anyone has info about nun in Carlow caught having sex

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    56. Yes Pat, XXXXXXXXCCC was a male prostitute before coming to Ireland, and XXXXXXXXX fought tooth and nail for him to get into Maynooth. XXXXXXX and XXXXXXXX were very close in the seminary. XXXXXXXX was eventually kicked out of Maynooth and ended up in Australia.

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    57. I think the whole celibacy thing needs to be done away with. It is a natural urge and has what has destroyed the church. Let them be married and vocations will be back at a proper rate .

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    58. No - XXXXX used to talk about money he earned from priests and when in Rome bishops but would not give names - I think he was kicked out over sex with nun in Carlow but maybe some others have more detail

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    59. How could we get the various Bishops to publish accounts for their Diocese's to see where the money is spent and how much it is costing for their lordships to go to Rome for the week ( or longer )and where they stay ? Eg "rented apartments " etc

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    60. Yes, XXXXXXX got a nun pregnant in Carlow and sent her for an abortion. He bragged about this openly in the seminary. However, he was at it with men as well, and rumours abounded about him and XXXX. He was a male prostitute who had paid-for sex with men before entering Maynooth.

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    61. Prior and his satellites have subjected you to a scurrilous campaign of distractions and red-herrings today Pat. Byrne has dropped PP in the shit big time this weekend.

      You are getting very near the truth of the real cause of all the scandal in Maynooth.

      Bennet was a sex addict and PP was his biggest defender in Maynooth.

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    62. XXXXC and his satellites have subjected you to a scurrilous campaign of distractions and red-herrings today Pat. Byrne has dropped XXXXX in the shit big time this weekend. You are getting very near the truth of the real cause of all the scandal in Maynooth. XXXXXXX was a sex addict and XXXXXX was his biggest defender in Maynooth.

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    63. This XXXXXXX is currently a priest?

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    64. Dear God. Is there any end to the depravity ? As a side issue I didn't think there were any nuns of a child bearing age left in Ireland !!

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      1. LOL. How long ago was this XXXXXX inseminating while in seminary?!

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      2. There will still be plenty lusty SilverNuns about I am sure.

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    65. Bishop Pat, I criticised you earlier for publishing the names of seminarians caught having sex when (1) it had not been verified and (2) when there is no evidence of them misusing their position and (3) it was not established that it was a consistent habit. I stand by that. But I also said you do a lot of good work - and this is precisely the sort of situation where you do a great job. If this one is true, go after it and let's have this one defrocked.

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      1. Please understand that I often walk in mine fields and try and do my best.

        But I am only human :-)

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      2. @22:10 you seem to be steering away from G constantly.
        To use your own rules.
        1. It was verified by the silverdaddy
        2. abuse and misuse their position and hipocritical (going against the pope - hes not on for gays acting on their urges and also against the archbishop - he's not on for promiscuous apps).
        and 3. there was photographic evidence and he was in contact with other people who he had given his number to before
        SO back to G and DM - whats the story?

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      3. Sorry Anonymous @22:23, I am fully behind the G story. Totally justified. That is not what I am discussing. Not all stories are the same. But thanks for the recap - there's been so many comments today it will help newcomers!

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    66. I do understand. The points were raised in a spirit of fraternal correction and are well intentioned - you have shone a spotlight into that hell-hole of a seminary that damaged so many of us and ruined so many vocations. Some (though not all) of those seminarians discussed are only human too though :-)

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    67. XXXXX was also addicted to pornography and was known to rob money and books from seminarians' rooms. XXXXX;s shenanigans were well known among the seminarian community, but oddly the SC didn't seem to care. He spent much time with XXXXXX. Australia's loss is certainly Ireland's gain. He bragged about this poor nun that he made pregnant as if she was some trophy.

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    68. PP knows that the hounds are near and he is turning the gun on poor auld Hugh, Liam Rigney and Dublin now. The Byrne story in the Indo this weekend has him shitting himself. MB was his main man in Maynooth.

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    69. People should stop talking about Declan Hasson. Who cares if what he did is true?

      T. Small

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    70. Pat can you please tell us what happened to Conan? Where is he now? Sheehan? Marshall? Puck? McElroy, Georgous? Give us a run down? Reflection of it all? Justice for Conan? Have you forgotten about poor Conan?

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    71. Where is Kevin 'teeth' McElroy nowadays?

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      1. Run out of Cork? He was fake? Why would they think this?

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      2. Pat have you spoken to Conan?

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      3. That is a spelling mistake Pat. It is spelled Cock!

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    72. King Puck?

      You have a picture of him in a jockstap and you barely mention him. Why?

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    73. #JusticeForConan

      Have you any comment to make Pat?...

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      1. I want justice for EVERYONE.

        I am happy to campaign for Conan.

        Put him in touch.

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    74. What's the blog tomorrow?

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    75. #JusticeForJockstaps

      How 'Jones' fit in that thing is beyond my comprehension. The leg pose always makes me laugh out loud.

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    76. Pat can I recommend some homosexual therapy for the gays on here? Send me your email and you can post it. Bitta shock treatment yeno- RTÉ Correspondent Francis McLoughin

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    77. Sheila and her trolley? Wheeling up the corridor toward Collins smoking a fag? Slacking Pat! Start talking

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