Friday, 20 January 2017

DECEIT AND COVER UP

DECEIT AND COVER UP

YESTERDAY AND ALL WEEK THE IRISH CATHOLIC BISHOPS HAVE BEEN MEETING POPE FRANCIS AND OTHERS IN THE VATICAN TO REASSURE THEM THAT ALL IS WELL IN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH IN IRELAND !!!!




THIS IS THE WAFFLE AMY MARTIN READ TO THE POPE:



"Most Holy Father, Thank you for your invitation to the Holy See for our visit ‘ad limina apostolorum’, and for your warm welcome here today.  On behalf of the Irish Episcopal Conference, I offer sincere thanks to you and to those in the dicasteries of the Roman Curia who have engaged with us so positively this week in an open and constructive dialogue.
It is very special for us to have this opportunity to meet and have a discussion with you.
Holy Father, we bring you warm greetings of affection from the Catholic people of Ireland and thank you for the powerful witness you are giving to the world – and especially for your emphasis on mercy for those who are on the peripheries of Church and society.
In Ireland in recent years, despite enormous economic turmoil and hardship, the Irish people have remained generous in the works of mercy towards those who are often overlooked in our fast-paced society – including the poorest and most defenceless.  In this regard the Bishops of Ireland continue to promote the dignity of the life of the unborn, as well as that of the elderly, the sick and all who are vulnerable at any stage of their existence.
So much has changed for Church and society in Ireland in the ten years since our last ‘ad limina’ visit in 2006.  Since then we have been making determined efforts to safeguard children and vulnerable persons from abuse.  I assure you that it remains a priority of the Church in Ireland to acknowledge and learn from the past, and persevere in our efforts to bring healing to all those affected by the sinful and criminal acts of abuse.
Holy Father, your personal outreach to survivors of abuse is an inspiration for us as we continue to travel the path of penitence, reparation, healing and renewal.  The publication this morning in Belfast of Sir Anthony Hart’s Report into Historical Institutional Abuse in Northern Ireland reminds us that much work remains to be undertaken in this regard.
We thank you for honouring Ireland with the privilege of hosting the Ninth World Meeting of Families in Dublin, August 2018.  We look back with joy to June 2012 when the Fiftieth International Eucharistic Congress took place in Ireland, with the theme ‘Communion with Christ and with One Another’.  That was a joyful and grace-filled occasion for us.
Like the Eucharistic Congress, we see the World Meeting of Families as much more than a ‘once-off’ event.  We look to it, rather,  as a graced opportunity, a process by which we can celebrate and explore further the riches of the Church’s ‘Gospel of the Family’.  It shall be a catalyst for reflecting on the challenging pastoral manifesto you have set out for the universal church in your post-synodal Apostolic Exhortation ‘Amoris Laetitia’.
We take this opportunity to repeat our invitation to you to visit us in August 2018 – we promise you, as we say in Ireland, ‘céad míle fáilte’ – one hundred thousand welcomes!
The pastoral care of marriage and the family remains a priority for us.  In spite of various social changes and challenges, the ethic of family life remains strong in Ireland.  As pastors, we meet many different family situations and we admire the high ideals which mothers and fathers have for their children.  We also recognise the critical importance of the family to handing on of the faith, to the life of our parishes and as the fundamental building block for a safe and stable society.
We are therefore committed to ensuring that our Catholic centres of education assist parents and families and are places of dialogue and encounter with the ‘Joy of the Gospel’ of Jesus Christ.  We continue to hold the view that the presence of Catholic schools enhances, rather than undermines, true diversity and pluralism in the provision of education.
During our ‘ad limina’ visit we have been reflecting on vocations and on the well-being and ministry of our priests and religious.  In today’s culture many people struggle to comprehend how anyone can be called to a life of service to God in these ways.  We are working on how to help foster a culture of vocation in Ireland, and on how best our seminarians can be adequately formed for service as priests in contemporary Ireland.
The well-being of our priests is dear to all of us bishops.  We are aware that declining numbers of priests, their increased workload and ever more challenging pastoral situations has taken its toll on them.  We thank God today for their resilience, dedication and generosity, and for the kindness and support of the faithful.  We also thank God for the many shoots of new growth and renewal that are emerging in parishes and dioceses all over the country, especially in catechesis, lay involvement and pastoral outreach to the marginalised".



AMY Did you tell Pope Francis about FATHER RORY COYLE showing his face and genitals to a former Catholic school student?

Did you tell him about FATHER X and his young DUP lover?

Did you tell him about the MAYNOOTH that you support and GRINDR - SILVERDADDIES etc?

Did you show him Judge Hart's report on 73 YEARS OF SEXUAL ABUSE IN IRELAND overseen by the Hierarchy, priests and Nuns?

Of course you didn't - why would you.

Did you tell him that you reply to even the most serious complaints submitted to you with a CIRCULAR letter?

Did you tell him about GORGEOUS - KING PUCK and HORNY ANDY? 

Did you tell Francis you have set the police on me?

And even if you did tell Francis & Co about these things would it have made any difference?


AND DIARMUID:



Did you tell Francis about Gorgeous.

Did you tell him about Father Brough, Father Derwin and the Pro Cathedral?

Did you tell him about the alleged rape in Bray?

Did you tell him about your INACTION and PROTECTION OF SOME?






LOOK AT THIS PICTURE

AMY  who wants to bring RORY back.

DIARMUID who is protecting GORGEOUS.

RAY BROWN who is planning to ordain KING PUCH soon.

DONAL MURRAY who had to resign over the DUBLIN ABUSE.

DONAL McKEOWN who sacked CONAN for reporting the TWO IN BED in Maynooth.

KEVIN DORAN WHO COMPARED GAY PEOPLE TO DOWN'S SYNDROME

NOEL TREANOR WHO GAVE FR CIARAN DALLAT A PRISON JOB AFTER MAKING A PARISHIONER PREGNANT

RAY FIELD AND EAMON WALSH WHO WERE CRITICISED IN THE DUBLIN ABUSE REPORT

JOHN FLEMMING WHO PRESIDED OVER THE IRISH COLLEGE


AND THE WHOLE LOT OF THEM WHO ARE SUPPORTING GAYNOOTH



JUDGE HART'S REPORT

Shocking historical child abuse in NI outlined in report


Shocking instances of historical child abuse in institutions in Northern Ireland have been outlined in the findings of the region's four-year inquiry into mistreatment of residents.
Probe chairman Sir Anthony Hart announced the conclusions of the wide-ranging report in Belfast - a statement that was due to last in excess of two hours.
Judge Hart.abuse at sisters of Nazareth "Members of congregation knew but did nothing to stop them"
The retired judge is dealing with the 22 church, state and charity-run homes in sequence.
At the start of his statement, he said 189 former residents came forward from four homes run by nuns in the Sisters of Nazareth Order to make allegations of maltreatment.
He said some nuns engaged in "physical and emotional abuse" of children, with the "denigration and humiliation" of residents widespread.

The published HIA report, which covers allegations of child abuse in children's homes and other residential institutions in Northern Ireland between 1922 to 1995. Credit: Pacemaker
Turning to a home run by the Catholic De La Salle order, Sir Anthony said children were subject to "excessive physical punishment" and fell victim to "physical assaults".
He said "systemic" physical, emotional and sexual abuse took place at the De La Salle run St Patrick's Training School in Belfast.
He said children were often humiliated, such as being stripped of their clothes and forced to stand naked.
Judge Hart. St Patrick's training school. "Systemic abuse. Humiliation, sexual abuse" cont'd
Sir Anthony said there was evidence of "corporal punishment" and staff sexually abusing girls at the Rathgael Training School in Bangor.
In regard to the Good Shepherd Sisters facilities in Belfast, Londonderry and Newry, the retired judge said there had been "unacceptable practices" of young girls being forced to do industrial work in the laundries.
In Lissue House, Lisburn, he said there was an unacceptable use of physical restraints, use of injections to sedate children, some children sexually abused and emotional abuse by "unfeeling" staff.
The inquiry also found failings by the Diocese of Down and Connor, the County Welfare Authorities/Health and Social Services Board, the Ministry of Home Affairs/ Department of Health and Social Services and local and statutory authorities.
Judge Hart. Ministry of home affairs and social services "universially ignored" inspections at homes.
The inquiry also investigated the events at the notorious boys' home at Kincora in East Belfast.
It investigated persistent claims that intelligence agencies covered up the crimes committed by a paedophile ring in the home in the 1970s in order to blackmail some alleged high-profile abusers from within the British Establishment.
Sir Anthony said there is "no credible evidence" to support allegations that a such a paedophile ring existed.

Kincora Boys' Home in east Belfast pictured.
Ahead of outlining his conclusions on the home, Sir Anthony said the Government's assurance that all files and evidence would be given to the inquiry had been "honoured".
Sir Anthony said police investigations into Kincora in the mid-1970s were "inept, inadequate and far from thorough".
He said authorities and police in Belfast were guilty of a "catalogue of failures" and said if a proper investigation had been undertaken many victims might have been spared.
Concluding his findings, Sir Anthony outlined recommendations made in the report.
He said that hundreds of victims should be offered a tax-free lump sum compensation payment.
The inquiry chair also said the Northern Ireland Executive and those institutions which ran homes where abuse took place should offer a “wholehearted and unconditional” apology to those victims.
He also called for a permanent memorial at Stormont Estate.



SEE FULL REPORT
https://www.hiainquiry.org/


AND AMY SAYS ALL IS WELL

AND DERMO SAYS ALL IS WELL

AND THEY ALL SAY ALL IS WELL


DO THE READERS OF THIS BLOG AGREE WITH AMY, DERMO AND THE REST THAT ALL IS WELL ????????????????

164 comments:

  1. Hypocrites, sadducees, pharisees, take your pick. Would writing to the Pope en masse be any help? Probably not. I feel so powerless to do anything. Some of these men have caused untold mischief. They've perpetrated injustices against priests and laity alike. They pay lip service to victims of abuse.They are untouchables. It saddens me.

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    1. They are becoming less untouchable.

      Lets keep doing our bit to expose them and hold them to account.

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  2. DM isn't feeling the heat anyway. He has his coat on in the pic.

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  3. The pastoral care of marriage and the family remains a priority for them.if the family was a priority you would be protecting children who are part of a Family. You would also stop byrne and others in Maynooth from doing what they are doing if you cared about the family so that they will not be a danger to Kids, Teens in the future. You Clowns would also do something about the priests who live a life contrary to the gospel and a Vocation. Yous are such a bunch of fucked up liars. Deceitful hypocrites, two faced manipulators and God help yous all when you all meet your maker face to face on the day of judgement. The Irish Church is dead. No longer exists. Whores of babylon. Burn in hell they all will.

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    1. Many of them who not believe in a Maker!

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  4. I'm so angry about all of this evil, especially in light of Archbishop Eamon Martin's sycophantic and self-congratulatory address to Pope Francis, that I fear I might overstep a legal boundary, Bishop Pat, and land you in even more trouble withe the PSNI. So I shall be circumspect and brief. Telling any of these atrocious matters to Pope Francis is more or less a waste of time and hope, since Francis has already declared himself a 'loyal son of the 'Church'. In practice, we know what this means: fidelity to the INSTITUTIONAL Church. Yes, he has taken token action against certain clerics, but he has gone nowhere near far enough to dredge the priesthood of the moral sludge that impedes the flow of God's grace.

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    1. God can send his graces around them.

      We all have direct access to God.

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  5. MourneManMichael21 January 2017 at 01:36

    Reading 'Amy Martin's' "report" on the state of the Irish church defies any sense of credibility, balance, or objectivity. It's opaque, obsequious fawning hypocrisy gags in my throat.
    Don't know where or how you obtained it from Pat, but fair play to you for sharing it. For it aptly portrays the cloud cuckoo land inhabited by the Irish episcopate. And I counted 30+ bishops in your two photos. Does the declining congregation of Irish catholics really need 30+ bishops?
    As has been said so many times before: stop contributing to any form of collection that maintains the Irish clerical 'mistution'. (My own word for a misfunctional institution)
    MMM

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    1. All chiefs and fewer indians.

      The ordinary braves ans squaws are seeing through them.

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  6. Very good summary of the whole disaster that is the Catholic Church in Ireland and these liars' misrepresentation of it to the Pope.

    Really Gorgeous and his ilk are not the problem, but rather their bishops who allow them to thrive.
    Exactly as in the case of the Child Sexual Abuse scandal. Yes there were abusers. But worse, there were their enablers, who moved them around for decades, so that more victims were made available to them.

    Truly disgusting.

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    1. They are still enabling - Gorgeous, Puck, Fr X, Horny Andy, etc.

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  7. I've found someone who met Puck on a date without realizing they were a seminarian, They claim he wanted 'fun' when they met.

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    1. This occurred in June 2015 in the college. The person understood they were going on a date but during the conversation puck asked for 'fun'.

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  8. "Tell the truth and shame the devil" Who is the father of all lies.

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  9. What a ball of Sh*te. Could you send your blog to one of the Italian dailies. Is the Irish church hoodwinking the Pope. These guys are like the Mafia seemingly untouchable

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  10. Well of course all is well. The isolated incidents you mention were carried out by a few rotten apples.
    It's unreal, isn't it? - But we all knew this is what would happen!

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  11. Waffle is a major problem in the Irish church. Every Sunday we are treated to waffle from the ambo. As Pat has astutely pointed out before when speaking of Dickie McKeown, "basically he's a waffler".

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    1. He looks like he had a good bath in Rome :-)

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    2. He looks like he forgot his iron - look at the shape of thon soutane!

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  12. Any intelligent man such as the Pope must be wise to the sea ney oceans of lies being read to him. If I were him I'd have to say that for every positive report it must be the opposite has he hasn't heard these so called positives come from the bums in the pews.

    It would benefit the pope to ask the bums for the true report cause thats were it counts. Of course these men of lace are going to give themselves a conceited pat on the back.

    At least I being honest as a bum from the PEWS

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    1. You should be an ex bum on the pew :-)

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    2. An ex bum on the pew, in some ways I've been there for a long time. Respect, Trust, Loyalty, are hard things to be earned when the bums are being treated as they are.
      How often we heard it said "I no longer am" it's more like a case of "I am but can no longer follow the leaders in their mis guidance.
      There's hardly a day goes by that I have to teach bums a new way of thinking how to be happy in the values they have been raised with, and ignore those who are dripping in the sanctimonious lace and verbal pious do as I say not as I do.

      Amen just me lol

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  13. let's face it, the 2 martins are gay.

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    1. Yup, I'm afraid that's the way it is 10:11. Maynooth is now almost an exclusively gay club. The Irish church shall be effaced from the face of the country in the years to come.

      If there are tiny green shoots appearing elsewhere in the Church here, it is despite those dopes of bishops, and not because of them or what Maynooth is producing.

      The Newman College will provide the only hope for anyone seeking a truly Catholic education in Ireland, and will serve as a counterbalance to the Maynooth madhouse.

      The bishops are just not prepared to to tackle their Vatican. And Maynooth is even more corrupt and rotten than the Vatican itself.

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  14. I don't think Pope Francis is such an easy pushover. He will hear these self-congratulatory reports from Bishop's Conferences at every ad lumina visit. But, I am sure he knows that what he is being given is a self-serving presentation, and he will have means of finding out what really is happening. In the dicasteries I am sure there will have been some hard talking. So, I am hopeful that Francis will send the Irish bishops home with a flea in their ear, and an instruction to sort things out according to the vision of Francis.

    Byrne, I am afraid, must be a test case. And DM has to act. There is enough on this blog and other information to have that young man thrown out, arrested even ! DM must act. If he does not act, then I think that people should make formal complaints to the Irish police about some of his behaviour, particularly the alleged incident in Bray. It has been aired enough for it to be moved on, even without the co-operation of the SilverDaddy concerned, and for the police to be given a complaint. It does not have to be the alleged victim who is the complainant. It can be any of us. If we think a crime has been committed, then there is a duty to report these things. Have you done so + Pat ? I suggest that you might be the best person to do this with the most information to hand over.

    From what I have been reading, Byrne may not just be a colourful narcissist. He appears to be a dangerous, predatory sexual assaulter, even rapist. That is serious in any walk of life. It should be looked in to by the police. Or, in due course, he will probably do something again. And then, how would we feel about our inaction now ?

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    1. I have spoken to the Garda and they want a complaint from the victim.

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    2. PS: I think I will make a formal complaint to the Garda as a "professional" who has teceived this information in the course of my work.

      At least it will formally put the matter on record.

      I will then furnish DM and The Irish College with a copy of my formal complaint to the Garda.

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  15. Pat I have just heard that Fr X and his DUP boy were in Rome this week under all the noses of the Irish Bishops. How blatant is that? They were even boasting about being on the same flight as the Bishop of Down and Connor. FR X was boasting to a friend that he and his young Orangeman were both shagging senseless in a hotel next to the Vatican on Borgo Pio. Can it get any worse?

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    1. This seems as if Fr X is really pushing the boat out and looking to be caught?

      Are you sure if your information?

      It seems reallY OTT.

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  16. were they have a threesome with a bishop as well? Honestly, let's stick to verified stories instead of this bollox, it's tedious.

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    1. I agree. We need to stick to stories that have basis at least in other people's reports and where there is some basis for the allegation.

      And these reports shoukd be then made to the relevant bishop by letter or email even if we feel they will do nothing.

      At least we need some paper trail.

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  17. I'm totally sure of the facts Pat. The young Orangeman has pictures of himself in the Sistine Chapel and using it as some kind of trophy or conquest to his Orange friends. A disgrace. I wonder did he send a copy to his good friends, Arlene, Poots and Givan.

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    1. Have you seen those pics. Have you copies?

      If so send them to Amy by registered post or send them here.

      Is Fr X in any of those pictures?

      There is a difference between reports with some basis and reports from total speculation.

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    2. Send Pat the pictures then - you have his email.

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    3. And I will forward them to Amy just as I have forwarded material to Diarmuid Martin.

      That way we have a record of them receiving the material / complaint.

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  18. I have already sent the pics to Archbishop Martin in Armagh Pat

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    1. Good. I hope you sent them recorded / registered and kept proof of postage?

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    2. Well that really isn't enough for us to be talking about on this blog then - anonymous poster known to no-one says he sent pictures to Archbishop Martin. So let's get back to this topic another day when we have more to work on and Pat has seen some evidence of what you are alleging, otherwise it is just a re-run of the CC fiasco, and taking us all for fools.

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    3. Is the Borgo Pio not the street that Pope Benedict lived in when he was a cardinal? He used also to eat very simply there in one or two well known but quiet family cafes.

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    4. 12.02 I am not going to be dictated to by a bully like you. This is not your blog it's Bishop Pat's blog. He sets the agenda here not You, Pat knows I am authentic because I am speaking to him offline. I don't need to prove anything to You, so go and pester someone else

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    5. Do what you like 12:08, but you are wasting your breath until we see something more credible than this. And if you are speaking offline to Bishop Pat, it is surprising that we read Bishop Pat's comment at 11:49, so whatever you're speaking to him online about it isn't the photos.

      And you are right this is Bishop Pat's blog. But one of the principal reasons that the bishops are ignoring the stuff that is coming from Bishop Pat is that the comments on the blog make wild indiscriminate allegations which are simply not believable. The CC story was one. We had it again the other day where Bishop Pat claimed he had sexually compromising pictures of MB including the face, only for a serious bit of backtracking to be done yesterday. As a result, and I know this for a fact, the general attitude to stuff on this blog among bishops and senior clerics is eye-rolling and considering it as a nutcase blog rather than a credible threat. Every time someone like me points it out, the accusations start - Who are you, what is your agenda, are you MB? No, I want to see change, but unless we start having credible verifiable information rather than random allegations there is no hope for change. So if the aim of the blog is gossip, then proceed as we are. If the aim of the blog is change in the Church and action, then it needs to change. It is a simple as that. It is not use living in an echo-chamber of the blog and ignoring how it is perceived in the wider world.

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  19. I didn't register them Pat, I didn't think. But I can resend them and register them. I suppose you have to be one step ahead but you shouldn't have to think that way about bishop's. Fr X was too clever not to be pictured with his boyfriend, however, I know the hotel were they shared a double room.

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    1. You need to resend registered post so you will know if and when received and who signed for it.

      Fr Xs absence from the pics make them less evidential.

      But at least Amy will see the Duppie in Rome and it will add to the Fr X file - if there is one.

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    2. Apparently some bishops have been advised not to create files anymore so that there will not be files to seize or be handed over. I imagine in these cases the busiest piece of equipment in the palace is the modern shredder.

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    3. Thats why registed post / keeping copies of everything sent is even more important.

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    4. Send everything here to Pat - he will sort it for us.

      Pat the light keeper

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  20. 12.23 if you don't believe what you read on the blog, if you think it's a nutcase blog, if you question allegations and pics and if you don't like what you read, the question remains - WHY READ IT?

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    1. Are you unable to discern anything? Where did I say it was a nutcase blog? I am giving you inside information about how the blog is perceived by bishops. The reason why DM and others do nothing about genuine stories such as the MB case is because people are posting absurd gossip. So you have a mixture of real situations and queeny gossip. After a while, it becomes hard to distinguish. And so its effectiveness diminishes and the bishop have excellent grounds to point to it and say "well they post rubbish about anyone who has come within a 5 mile radius of Maynooth, you cannot take it seriously". Much of what written is true - as an insider I can, for example, tell that some of the stories could only have come from seminarians. But I can also tell you that other stories are not true. If your response to the issues we face is to fall hook, line and sinker for every single queeny comment posted on the blog, then you need to discern a bit harder. I mean "if you question allegations" - are you actually serious? Do you mean that an allegation is made, you believe it, no questions asked? This isn't Catholic Ireland 1957, we are allowed to use the brains that God gave us today. I suggest you use yours.

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  21. In the photo of the Episcopal Class of '17 the Ab of Dublin has his coat on and his bag in his hand. Is he intending to get on the bus first?

    Dorothy from Dungannon

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    1. He has that bag every where - whats in it

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    2. A spare knickers in it!

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    3. Or a Moore Street pot of coddle.

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    4. He has a spare pair of purple pretty pollys in the bag for Amy in case she gets a ladder

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  22. A lot of working class kids join the priesthood and get notions above their station. Some keep trying to prove themselves and become first generation members of Knights of Malta etc as it's easy enough entry once you become a chaplain. But then there are some with another streak, not just a socially ambitious one. Promiscuous priests have no place whatsoever in the Church.

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    1. Stephanie Wilson told a priest in my diocese how he hoped to become a chaplain one day when ordained. Jesus wept

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    2. Stephanie Wilson? Stephen Wilson? Coalisland?

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    3. Pat what do you know about him? Have you seen him? Being very serious !?

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    4. Now there's an interesting character!

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    5. Ive seen pictures of him and heard reports.

      Armagh certainly knows how to choose its future priests.

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    6. Ryanair trolley dolly. Fags about Maynooth with a rainbow flag during the referendum. He was seen. Log into his Facebook, makeup and drag. Amy Martin has a lot to answer for Pat. GET IT SORTED AND F**K HIM OUT

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    7. Interesting that the priesthood is attracting trolly dolly and hairdressers emeritus.

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    8. Log into his Facebook Pat. I posted a letter to Eamon Martin Friday recorded post with pictures of this seminarian in question. He is as suitable for priesthood as much as my dog is suitable.

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    9. Amy will have her very own stylists and travel advisors available.

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    10. Stephen Wilson caused some discomfort and disturbances in the college last year. I have sent you an email. MMO

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    11. he minces about the place. not a fan of his but I keep quiet for the sake of peace.

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    12. Sits in the chapel with a bun in her hair. She only needs a skirt and you would have Brethren Ruth.

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    13. Ronan Sheehan + Stepenius are two girls that would make a great case study

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    14. Stephen has some interesting Facebook friends. Quite a few gay couples and gay men, plus Brendan Marshall, Dean Kennedy, the tall one in Armagh parish and the young beardy priest from Meath who was at WYD.

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    15. Are we saying that he has done something wrong? Or are your just homophobes who are victimising him because he is gay?

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    16. One of them supports abortion and murder of innocent people.

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    17. Who? And how do you know?

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    18. Are there any straight seminarians in Maynooth? Why don't they just move the seminary to Soho, San Francisco or Brighton and be done with it?

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    19. 20:03, I commend your profound homophobia. Why don't you treat us to some more of it?

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    20. So, guilty by association on Facebook. If that's the level of your comments, you have scraped the bottom of the barrel.

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    21. Pat, that is a disgraceful comment from you.

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  23. @Pat The best thing you've said recently is that you're going to report to guards in your capacity as professional and that you're forwarding to DM and Irish College. There were a lot of priests (and a few Dublin ones) on Grindr, but this particualr episode was extraordinary if hat is alleged to have happened, happened. The irony is that Amy is talking about the 'family' to the Pope and the Pope is coming over to a conference on Family. Meanwhile a deacon is allegedly having his way way a silverdaddy 'family' man. So much for the importance of the family.

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  24. +Pat
    Last week and actually on quite a number of occassions you have called D Martin out that he needed to do something / make a statement about MJB - nothing has happened I feel in the interests of transparency you now need to publish all the material you have here. Its time the cork it taken off the bottle and its released - I would hope the media would then carry the story fully. I am totally shocked that the irish media are letting this happen and its not in the papers or on the 9 o clock news.

    it seems the bishops are running rings around the poor Joe soap of ireland. This needs to be done this weekend Pat - the time is up.

    Lorcan

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    1. Totally agree!! Mainstream media need to publish this & DEMAND an explanation from +DM.

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    2. Nothing about it on Joe Duffy either. Plenty about the crooks at the House of Prayer and those other nutters, the Palmarians. High time some silver daddies were phoning in to describe their experiences at the hands of these insatiable seminarians.

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  25. Pat where is all the informaiton on the previous dean from belfast who was hanging out in Westminster - like everthing it all dies down.

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    1. I think he is under investigation and probably holed up in Portstewart.

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  26. Does anyone know anything of Fr Gregory Carroll Dublin - I hear he is been tipped for Galway ?

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    1. I have heard FR MIKE BYRNES a clonfert priest moved from the mariage tribunal back to parish to get some experience before the move to Kilmacdough, Galway and Clonfert


      Anyone know much about him?

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    2. Gregory Carroll is the Provincial of the Irish Doms.

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    3. Pope Francis told the Bishops they should be like goalies. Seems to me that's what's wrong with our Bishops- they are a team of goalies, no strikers hence nothing happens. Poor Papa Francesco he doesn't know the deadbeats he's dealing with!

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    4. Pat, what do you believe should happen to MB?

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  27. Gregory Carroll is a good man. The most impressive Dominican in Ireland is Terence Crotty, he is spiritual, sincere, holy and will go far.

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    1. Except that one of his disastrous actions hit the headlines:

      http://michaelcommane.blogspot.ie/2015/08/terence-crotty-homosexual-story-back-in.html

      Shades of Cardinal Keith O'Brien.

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  28. Would the contributors who have suggested the names Byrnes and Carroll as possible future bishops please stop that speculation now.
    It is causing poor Fr Timmo Bartlett palpitations and the onset of a nervous disorder especially after he looked at the photo of the Irish Episcopal Conference in Rome and cried as he sang "It could have been me"
    Show some consideration,please

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    1. TIMMO BARLETT - bye bye

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    2. i wonder if gamillis in Roma will give me a refund on the Mitre ?

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    3. Timmo will get Clogher. It won't be filled for at least a year or two so I bet he'll be appointed just after the August 2018 World Meeting of Families. Poor Clogher......it doesn't need Tim Bartlett!

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  29. Anyone know anything about the other Dublin seminarian, Conor Gannon? !Extremely! troubled by what I've been VERY reliably told about his past... Far too sweet to be wholesome & keeping his head well below the parapet. Ticking time bombs the lot of them in that sick Irish College! on

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    1. What has his past got to do with anything? Has he been up to no good in seminary? If not, what is your point?

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    2. Lets hope no more silver daddies are defiled. We can hope for no more than that.

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    3. Apparently he's the semen-ary organist (Irish College)! Butter wouldn't melt..... Yeah right!

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    4. Ah 22:02, so you are saying specifically that he has been up to no good while in Rome? Or Maynooth?

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    5. Dunno about Rome/Maynooth - but he certainly slept around (with guys, of course) including with an acquaintance of mine before he entered, who's stories of him sickened me! Hard to stop when you've had a taste for it! But he could be 'cured' now I guess (lol). As I said - ticking time bombs! Maybe the hairdresser emeritus will fix him in Rome (lol & more lol).

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    6. Something similar was said of Jesus of Nazareth. At least the source of one such comment, Nathaniel, wasn't hiding behind an anonymous tag. It's not our past that is of concern but our present.

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    7. @23:13 and so what if he did? It is not your business and what he might or might not have done before he entered the seminary is irrelevant. On your way of thinking, you would have barred St Augustine. Pat, why are you allowing this to be published? Can we now assume that your target now is gay seminarians in general, rather than offenders in seminary or the priesthood? Because by permitting the comment above that is the message you are endorsing. Could you clarify or shall we just make that assumption?

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    8. I see nothing wrong with gay seminarians or priests who practice what they preach and do not target other seminarians for abuse.

      If you want to be an RC seminarian or priest you must accept what you stand for.

      Double lives are hypocritical.

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    9. In what way is that a double life Pat? Surely this was before seminary and a man is entitled to the benefit of the doubt? Or no?

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    10. I know him enough to know he's very very secretive about his affairs... They fall over him at the Irish College - some lust him in fact - & not just seminarians! Parishioners are entitled to know the mindset of those eventually to be entrusted to their spiritual care. No time for deviousness or deep seated homosexual tendencies that eventually come out when it's all too late causing serious damage to the credibility of the church.

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    11. Look it's like this - if he is a seminarian and sexually active, fair enough. If he is abusing celibate seminarians, fair enough. If tendencies are deep-seated in the sense that his alleged homosexuality is such that it colours his judgment fair enough. But if the only point being raised here is that there was alleged sexual activity before he entered the seminary, then this is a breach of his right to a private life. If he has done nothing while in the seminary, he is entitled to privacy. Very few seminarians in any part of the world are virgins, so I don't see any big deal. I have to say I am disappointed that this sort of thing is being published. From what you are telling us, there's no double life going on - the fact that you find him 'secretive about his affairs' can be translated as "I have no information about anything". Maybe you are an ex-lover jilted in favour of the seminary?

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    12. Blind eye so then! Not an ex-lover I assure you. Practice what YOU preach & don't make assumptions yourself!! I'm just a concerned catholic with no agenda other than flagging something no doubt to surface post-ordination. Always does in the end!

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    13. No blind eye. If you have something to say, let's be having it. If on the other hand you are alleging that someone was active before seminary, then unless it was criminal, from the Catholic point of view it is no big deal. You seem to be saying that because he is allegedly gay, he in unable to keep chastity, and will offend in the future - which really amounts to bigotry and homophobia. So if you are really a concerned Catholic, I would focus a bit more on mercy, compassion and avoiding idle gossip rather than behaving like someone who is without sin and who has never known the mercy of God. If you have real concerns, address them through the proper channels, rather than posting queeny comments in a public forum. Until we have something more substantial, this is really just a collection of offensive posts.

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    14. Grand. Don't say you weren't warned.....

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  30. I really don't like the direction that this blog has been going in.

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    1. I agree. It is simply impossible to criticise the Irish bishops if the bishop running this blog allows tawdry gossip to be published with no filter. It would rather seem that ALL Irish bishops are exactly alike - they place their own agendas over the rights of other people.

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    2. This blog is exposing the truth of the type of priests that will be unleashed to the public in years to come, heaven forbid.

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    3. Yes, in part it is. But it is also a site where bitchy queens post bollox. Bishop Pat is a fine Christian leader, but he is failing here.

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    4. 19:53

      You might be surprised how many comments I delete altogether or edit.

      My agenda is simple:

      1. To clean up the RC Church in Ireland.

      2. To give people a place to debate.

      I am not perfect.

      This Blog is not perfect.

      But I am doing my best

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    5. Bishop Pat is a sinner but an honest and open sinner.

      I'm sure I do fail on here.

      But I am trying to do my best.

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    6. Keep up the good work Pat and f*** the begrudgers

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    7. I understand Bishop Pat and think you do good work especially with some of the situations we have before us. But you are allowing comments about all manner of seminarians to be put into the public domain, and it isn't right or fair from the Christian perspective. If they have done something wrong, hold them to account, but shout-outs for info on somebody or tearing someone's entire reputation to shreds simply because they might be feminine isn't really hard to curb to be honest.

      If someone wants to give you information or put you onto a real story, then let them email you and you can do your good work. I am really only objecting to the random allegations about men who are potentially innocent (or who maybe have their own issues or demons to face).

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  31. Stephanie is the most dangerous person in Maynooth. Her and Collins are as thick as thieves. She listens to every conversation and reports all friendships back to Collins. She is a poisonous gossip. She has played her part in good seminarians been thrown out.

    She has zero spirituality and makes no bones about it. She's solely there for her free music degree. No faith of any kind. How Amy allows her to continue is beyond words. If she is ordained, then the end of the world must be at hand.

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    1. So he is a 'poisonous gossip'? Don't you find that a bit ironic given the poisonous gossip you've just posted C?

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    2. That is not my experience of Stephen.

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    3. Are you for real?? She is one dangerous person. She is in and out of Collins office reporting everything like a proper little teachers pet.

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    4. Stephanie and Christina McDermott were a dangerous team

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  32. Ticking time bombs - all of them. Dangerous ones at that!

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  33. Yah in the direction of DM

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  34. Apparently Alex Stensen is a favourite for Galway

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    1. Was he not problematic in Dublin?

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    2. Alex Stenton is 75 yes old!

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  35. Stephanie Wilson. Could have sworn that was him on the late late show last night.
    Ronan "You cant catch me" Sheehan
    Paul "Alan Carr" Trehy
    Time to move on lads. The joke is over. We are trying to rebuild the Church. IF ye have any TRUE respect for the faith ye will do the honorable thing , Join the Pantomime, Hit the George or whatever else but do not ruin it for the rest of us Matt 18:6

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  36. Pat any hint about tomorrow's blog

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  37. Al Porter has destroyed WYD forever. However, he's possibly saved some impressionable guys

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  38. Derry was the only masculine heterosexual diocese and it scared the girls

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  39. Deffo not Stenson - not a hope in the world. think he dirtied his nappy with this in 2010
    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/cleric-admits-telling-gardai-of-abuse-wasnt-on-agenda-26608088.html

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  40. I wonder what would Al say about DM and MJB

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  41. Any teasers for tomorrows blog?

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    1. make sure its up at 12. I do look forward to your blogs

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    2. perfect. I;ll have the kettle boiled

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  42. Raphoe seminarians were the most macho of all in Maynooth in my time there (the 1980s). The then Junior Dean, dismissed two of my classmates because of their openly camp behaviour. There were a few gay seminarians, but I was only aware of one practising one. At the time there were 350 diocesan seminarians in residence, plus 50 or so male religious students. Far more prevalent was straight relationships, and a strong drinking culture. Part of Maynooth's problem has been the admission since 1966 of lay students, with no planning for how to maintain the seminary ethos. When I was there it just felt like a hall of residence with a few prayers thrown in. Now the seminary is almost entirely subsumed by the secular university, many of whose students and staff are anti-Cathoic. The seminary and it's grounds are open to the general public, there is no sense of quiet or recollection, and the college chapel is locked up, and is mainly used for concerts.

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  43. Anyone got a mobile telephone number for DM?

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    1. Concerned people should write to him:

      Archbishops House.
      Drumcondra.
      Dublin. 9.

      Please do not underestimate the importance of such letters.

      Write. Write. Write.

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    2. Bishop Pat, wrote to DM myself not long ago. Total waste of time. Man so discourteous, he didn't bother even to acknowledge my e-mail, let alone reply to it.

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  44. well done Pat, truth and justice. What motto did you adopt when you were ordained as bishop.

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    1. TOLERANCE - LOVE - DIVERSITY.

      Obviously not tolerance of wrong doing.

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  45. I remember "visiting" long corridor in 1986 and extending my stay, Men in Black!

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    1. I was in Long Corridor in 1986 and you did not "visit" me #sadface. Hard to comprehend that the number of first years in 1986 was 84, which is more than the entire college now, plus there were first years also enter the six or so other seminaries that were still open then. In fact, there were so many first years that we had to share bedrooms. The junior dean, Fr Frank Duhig was not happy about that at all. He tried unsucessfully to get Humanity House returned to it's former use as seminary accommodation, but it had been turned into staff offices.

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    2. The mention of Long Corridor reminds me that it was converted to become the Trocaire head office. It would be very interesting to find out if the college or the episcopal conference makes Trocaire pay rent.

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  46. Why isn't Patsy McGarry writing about this?

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  47. Pat is the victim of this crime reviving professional support for trauma and legal advice?

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    1. I have offered it to him. So has my contact in the Garda.

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  48. +Pat you should have been in Rome this week - challenging directly and reporting here on you were getting on

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  49. Mgr Alex Stenson when asked why clergy sexual abuse of children was not reported to the Garda said, and I quote " it wasn't that the church had a culture of secrecy but it maintained a ' responsible confidentiality '.
    Isnt that a cracker. " a responsible confidentiality ". So responsible that it allowed the Fr Tony Walshes and the Fr Ivan Paynes of this world to go on sexually abusing children and not a word of alarm raised by the church to the authorities because, to quote Stenson again " I had taken an oath"
    There's one of those oaths again! Remember the " wounded healer" and the children signing the oath? Ummmmm.......
    Dirty rotten hypocritical bast###s the lot of them!
    How can the Sean Brady's of the church stand before a congregation knowing that his inaction allowed and enabled deviant clergy to abuse defenceless, innocent children.
    Scumbags in purp

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  50. Pat, you say you have limited resources. Do you have any staff or help in relation to the blog. Is there an editorial team or is it just You?

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  51. Poster from yesterday 15:59 was used as a scapegoat to hide a fellow seminarian's affair with a lay student. Would I be right in saying this man was ordained within the last ten years and Pat had a blog on him a couple of months back?

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    1. Obviously has no backbone and I think you were treated horribly. I've never spoken to him but would agree that he seems to court media attention, which last year backfired on him here. I would also question his friendship with another dubious local character, dismissed from Thurles after giving the 'come on' to an electrician.

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  52. When one looks at the caliper of Amy's seminarians, it speaks volumes.

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