Sunday, 26 February 2017

WHERE ARE THE YOUNG CATHOLICS?

EMAIL: bishopbuckley1@outlook.com



Archbishop of Dublin Diarmuid Martin reflected on the age profile of those present at the funeral Mass for Cardinal Desmond Connell yesterday , as representing “generations past”.
“Cardinal Connell was born 90 years ago; he became a bishop almost 30 years ago. I am his successor now for 13 years. I am already an old man. We no longer represent the challenges and changes of the world of the younger generations,” he said.
“Most of the bishops of Ireland are here this morning. We have representatives of every dimension of Catholic life in Dublin. Let me say this: most of us represent generations that are past,” he said.
However, the message of Jesus Christ “is always the same but always new and must be preached . . . with ever-renewed vigour and sensitivity”, he said.
The Mass at the Pro-Cathedral was celebrated by Archbishop Martin with papal nuncio Archbishop Charles Brown, Catholic Primate of All-Ireland Archbishop Eamon Martin, his predecessor Cardinal Seán Brady, past and present members of the Irish Bishops’ Conference and many priests and religious of the Dublin archdiocese.
Chief mourners were the late cardinal’s sister-in-law, Peggy, nephews John, Denis and Mark, grandnieces and grandnephews.
President Michael D Higgins was represented by his aide-de-camp, Col Michael Kiernan, and Taoiseach Enda Kenny by his aide-de-camp, Lieut Col Kieran Carey.
‘Difficult time’
Dr Martin told those gathered that the late cardinal, who died in Dublin last Tuesday, “became archbishop at a difficult time in this diocese. Many comments in these days noted that he was slow to recognise the extent of the problem of child sexual abuse by priests. It is not enough to make that comment now from a distance.
“It must be said that he found himself surrounded by a culture and at times by advisers who were slow and perhaps even unwilling to recognise both the extent of the problem and the enormous hurt that had been done to children, a hurt they still carry with them.
“That hurt has still to be fully recognised; that wound cannot be consigned to past history. For victims it still remains, ” Dr Martin said.
He said Cardinal Connell was the one who “finally began to realise the extent of the abuse and the extent of the damage done to children and with difficulty began to drag out information which some were still reluctant to share.”
Dr Martin said the cardinal must be remembered as the one who “established the child protection service in this diocese, which was the beginning of a new culture which has now, thank God, been widely accepted and welcomed.”
‘Needs of the poor’
The late cardinal “felt the needs and responded to the needs of the poor, of Travellers, of refugees, of the homeless and of victims of addiction and of HIV/ Aids” but “he was not a politician or a vote seeker”.
He may “have been at times insensitive in things he said, but not out of malice. He was criticised for being at times less than diplomatic, just as I am criticised by being overdiplomatic,” said the archbishop.
Readings were by John Connell and Mark Heather, nephews of the late cardinal, while Dr Eileen Kane, a friend and former colleague of his at UCD, led the Prayers of the Faithful. Music was by the Palestrina choir, conducted by Blánaid Murphy and with Prof Gerard Gillen on the organ.
Attendees included Senator Rónán Mullen, former MEP Gay Mitchell, former government secretary Dermot McCarthy, former president of UCD Prof Art Cosgrove and other former UCD colleagues, Prof Fran O’Rourke, Prof Gerard Casey, Prof George Eogan and economist Dr Finola Kennedy.
Also present were David Quinn of the Iona Institute, Br Edmund Garvey of the Irish Christian Brothers, and chair of the Catholic Church’s national board for safeguarding children John Morgan.
‘‘ He was criticised for being at times less than diplomatic, just as I am criticised by being over diplomatic Archbishop Martin.

PAT SAYS:

Yes Diarmuid - the younger generations are increasingly missing from your churches.

Do you ask yourself why?

You may blame materialism and secularism and you may have some point.

But what about:

1. Child abuse by bishops, priests and religious?

2. The Church's medieval approach to human sexuality?

3. The Church's wealth kept from the poor?

4. Stupid practices like clerical celibacy?

5. The GOINGS ON in Maynooth?

6. The Church's interference in politics and social life?

7. The Vatican Bank?


If you want the young back you will first have to get back your own INTEGRITY, HONESTY, OPENNESS etc.

51 comments:

  1. Pat and fr Brian on the same page .....at last

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  2. He won't be missed.

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    1. Neither will a judgemental,bitter person like you

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  3. Buckley, you have provided me with the biggest laugh of my life! Thanks. I heard at Des Connell's funeral how you travelled all the way to Waterford to be chastened and for Alphonsus Cullinan to put manners on you. What a long way to travel to be admonished and it is long overdue. It was all the talk in Dublin and someone referred me to this sad blog. What you don't get or the sad pathetic readers of your blog is that the Bishops have authority. Reading a comment from yesterday, I agree with one person in saying that Seminarians and Deacons from Maynooth and Rome will be ordained. There is nothing you or the sad people on your blog can say or do to stop that.

    Our men in Rome are thriving, some are angry with you and your blog but there are those in Rome thanking you secretly for sending them there as they are enjoying it so much. There are some Bishops hoping you would present yourself to Communiion to them because they think Alphonsus let you off lightly. Remember the Bishops in Ireland and elsewhere have the authority.

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    1. In the end the bishops will find that the laity have the authority. The church is in meltdown.

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    2. 13.00 what a sad view of church and sacraments/ Are you comparing mass to a medieval court where bishop wields his power

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    3. What a unChristian moron you are!
      Yes you and you evil lot have The Authority!
      Congratulations and bugger off with it.

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    4. Come come now, temper temper.

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    5. To the original commenter: you've just confirmed exactly what Pat says!
      - The bishops have authority (and only go by their authority)
      - The Grindr seminarians will be ordained (great - bring on the post- ordination scandals)
      - The bishops want to teach Buckley manners (they'll see themselves here if they do)
      - The seminarians in Rome are having a great time (obviously the hard study and prayer suits them or else they've pulled).

      The whole point of much of what Pat says is people with authority who misuse it and you've illustrated that perfectly, you knuckle-brained fucktrumpet.

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    6. Ooh, Father's woken up cranky today. What's the matter, dear, run out of gin?

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  4. Judge not, that ye be not judged. Payback time for Desdemona, me thinks.

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  5. Have you seen the amount of young people who attend weekday mass in maynooth? Did you see the millions that attend world youth days? Did you see the thousands of young people who marched for life in Dublin? Do you see the hundreds that attend Youth2000 in knock?

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    1. World Youth Day is a SHAG FEST!

      After WYD in Krakow the biggest challenge the city council had was collecting and disposing if used condoms.

      Don't fool yourself!!

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    2. can you show me a news article link on this SCANDALOUS story pat? thats right pat, you cant!!!!

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    3. www.catholictruthbkig.com

      Also see Hans Kung

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    4. right so you've a thing about WYD. what about a packed church in Maynooth at 12pm weekdays? have you something to say on that too. Have you a gripe with Youth2000, I suppose as there's a few 'gays' who attend Youth2000, it too must be unholy!!

      Your obsessed with homosexuality Buckley.

      remember what John Paul said 'you are not the sum of your faults or failings. you are the sum of the fathers love for you'

      When it comes to homosexuals in the church, they are not accepted, they are not tolerated, THEY BELONG!

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    5. Anyone trying to claim that Christianity in Europe isn't dead on its feet, has their head in the sand. In desperation isolated peaks of Mass attendance or special events are given as proof against the overwhelming collapse of Christianity.
      The future of Europe is Islamic, face it.

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  6. Obviously some arrogant so called gay bitches from Gaynooth typing today

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  7. Going off on theses so called Catholic jaunts has nothing to do with how the Sunday mass numbers has dwindled
    Young people love to travel and have the craic

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  8. The truth hurts luv.

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  9. Youth day at knock is just that
    A day out for the young
    I've been, nothing to do with how faith orientated I was
    Just a day out with my mates

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    1. The straightforward honesty of the young. Thanks.

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  10. Thank god I've no boring confirmations this year
    So I won't have to look at the bishop all dressed up and nobody interested

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    1. Pat doesn't do confirmations

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  11. Ha ha ha Buckley. The Sems like fu*k**g, there is nothing you can do about it. Face up to it and accept the fact nobody is taking you or your blog seriously. Those who read your blog are all liberal right ring nutters. Poor you. Awwwwh.

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  12. Pat I agree with your reasons 1-7. Missing from the list is lack of faith, Meaningful worship and a realistic link between faith and sacraments. I prepared children for first confession. They knew all about zachaeus. They were 'lovely' Pat. By the time they got to confirmation 12/13 those same children when marched to the confession box asked in an embarrassed voice "what do I say" I replied what do you want to say and took the conversation. I came from a mentality where good people arrived at mass regularly after or during the first hymn some chatted down the back and left before or during the last hymn. Many did not take Communion. Good people I say but the church has to pay the price of Spiritual neglect of the past while not neglecting important points like you mention above

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  13. Search Results
    The Downside of Rio | Catholic World Report - Global Church news ...
    www.catholicworldreport.com/Blog/2500/the_downside_of_rio.aspx
    13 Aug 2013 - It was the Friday of World Youth Day, and attendees had flooded city ... “mounds of used condoms were reportedly found scattered on the ...

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  14. Crackers in Kraków – World Youth Day « Catholic Truth
    https://catholictruthblog.com/2016/07/28/crackers-in-krakow-world-youth-day/
    28 Jul 2016 - By the time you read this column, World Youth Day 2016 will have ... Remember World Youth Day 2000 when hundreds of condoms were ...

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  15. Public Theology and the Challenge of Feminism - Google Books Result
    https://books.google.co.uk/books?isbn=131759147X
    Stephen Burns, ‎Anita Monro - 2015 - ‎Religion
    more Love into the world and also [to] lift the spirits of many sexually oppressed ... boom ̄ given the previous experience of rubbish collectors finding used condoms after papal ... regulations designed to prevent opposition to World Youth Day.

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  16. How many of those condoms in Krakow were Armagh or Meath Priests? Going on their behaviour at the time some clergy used them. But, there again quite a few of them same clerics opted for Bareback sex.

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    1. I had bearback sex with a priest in Krakow - with him on the receiving end twice!

      I brought condoms.

      He did not want me to use them.

      He hold me he was disease free.

      Armagh Diocese "Pilgrim".

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    2. Why is Meath mentioned on and off Pat. I don't believe there is any truth to these inaccurate postings. Shame on the person who is doing that, at least with Armagh, it seems clear that there is a problem! But Meath, I really don't think it should be mentioned.

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    3. Ugh! - - the very thought! - spare us the details please...

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    4. A lot of hiv guys say they are disease free. It happens, it may shock you but it's prevelant.

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    5. You don't think Meath should be mentioned? That's the best laugh I got all week. You're just baiting for names.

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    6. By the way has anyone stories from WYD? Not relating to Armagh. It's boring reading about Armagh all the time. And the North. Northerners were all at in Maynooth, always. The pious ones were the worst, and of course the pre Vatican II hypocrites.

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    7. What is so funny about my question? I would prefer if no names are mentioned because I have never heard of Meath associated with strange goings on!!

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    8. I can assure you Neath has its fair share of clerical WA****s

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  17. Mention "Willie" or anything Willie related and the amount of comments soar. Mention faith and the poor feckers are lost for words. Is there a message here...? O ye guardians of the faith..

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    1. The worship it, they worship it so hard.

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  18. Any word on the Deacon? Either of them? Has there been some sort of tracing device put on the laptops in Maynooth? There doesn't seem to be any actual seminarians on here anymore giving news. There are a few pretending to be seminarians , who are probably recently ordained and hoping by saying that everything is ok in Maynooth and Rome that people will stop asking questions and they can continue to fool their parishes.

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    1. They're probably both trolling Roma Termini railway station as we speak.

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  19. @Sean Page. If there was more talk about Willie and less about Faith (pretend Faith) in Seminary it might have solved a few scandals. Like it or lump it, Religious life is used as a front for being gay nowadays and not wanting to upset Mammy. What is particularly sad is gay guys going to Maynooth who are not particularly active at all and actually quite religious, and coming out of the gay Factory active and not particularly religious at all anymore but using religion as a front. They're the real problem with your 'faith' query.

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  20. He was a wicked man; a narcissist, an insensitive and uncaring excuse for a man... and, of course, a habitual wanker. They all are.

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  21. Meath? blondie on Grindr? Then the other one who missed his vocation as a archaeologist seeing as he spends so much time in parks walking around looking for something

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  22. the two deacons aren't in Rome. Only one of them. Has the Dublin one been told to lay low and do a retreat for a while and pray about things? Then appear for ordination?

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  23. @Pat what did Phonsie shout at you? or can you remember, seeing as it must have been a bit of a shock. He's biggest hit on the ordination circuit when he used to attend was 'My Way'. He was a goodish singer, bit of a belter. Bit loud. More of an actor. But a good entertainer.

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  24. Has there been anfeedback from phonsie re yourself ,Pat
    Or is it all hush hush

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  25. This blog is a scandal-mucking disgrace and should be shut down! From the Code of Canon Law - Can. 210 All the Christian faithful must direct their efforts to lead a holy life and to promote the growth of the Church and its continual sanctification, according to their own condition.

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  26. And, of course the Christian denominations in which 'anything goes' are full of active young people? NO, they are not. US Anglicanism is bleeding to death. So, if we follow your advice absolutely nothing is going to change BUT those religions that require real commitment and sacrifice are growing (e.g. Islam) so your argument is provably FALSE

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