Last night we received an email about Gorgeous and an alleged trip to New York in 2015.
It reads:
"Although it is not mentioned in this blog, He was in New York City during the summer of 2015
i chatted with a Jack aka jackb222 on SKYPE and also Jack on Silverdaddies. I recognize him from the pictures posted in this blog.
His messages said that he was a medical student in NYC for a three month exchange training program at a major New York City hospital well known for its work in cancer treatment and research. He was staying in an apartment building near the hospital with other students in the program. I live very near his apartment.
We chatted daily for a while. He acted as a young guy who was experiencing NYC for the first time, the crowds , the sires, high buildings etc.
My first contact was on 12 May 2015, the last on 15 May 2015.
We did not meet. He declined to chat in SKYPE. It made me curious. He changed his profile picture quite often, usually with a NYC site in the background or wearing a yankee baseball cap. Sometimes in a tie and jacket".
PAT SAYS:
Can anyone confirm that Gorgeous was in the Big Apple in 2015?
Gorgeous - and indeed King Puck in Kerry - have been lying low for quite a few months now.
Diarmuid Martin has Gorgeous well hidden away in The Irish College in Rome.
King Puck is keeping quite in Listowel in Kerry.
It seems that their bishops are both determined to ordain them this Summer come what may!
I know none of these people but your incessant pursuit is disturbing and bordering on harassment.
ReplyDeleteAs I said on the previous blog, the institutional Roman Catholic Church is a 'whore', because it betrays Christ and his people.
ReplyDeleteIf Byrne and Jones (and others like them) are ordained, it will prove my point that institutional Catholicism is indeed a whore.
Judas betrayed Christ, was the early Church a whore? Christ was showing us from the very beginning that the Church would have ministers who would betray him and his Church. Get over it Magna, the Church exists on earth for sinners - stop calling Her a whore. (And don't give us that BS about "the church" vs "institutional church"!)
ReplyDeleteIn the 1950s, I thought the church was a very bullying institution. We have to be careful that we don't become the playground bully.
DeleteDid you read my posts on yesterday's blog? The prophets Isaiah and Jeremiah both decsribed the Jews as 'harlot' for their infidelity to Yahweh.
DeleteInfidelity to God is a motif of Scripture, woven into the narrative of both the Old and New Testaments. It is an essential and seminal element in the story of our redemption. It reveals the misfortune that always and inevitably befalls God's people when they willingly and wilfully ignore his appeals to faithfulness. And you want me to 'get over it'.
Wasn't it a Spanish philosopher who said that those who neglect the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them? This applies as much to salvation history (our history as Catholics) as it does to history of any other sort.
No, I will not 'get over it'; nor should you, if you have any sense and any sense of historical perspective. We need to be ever alert to infidelity, whether at an individual or (and yes) institutional level. As regards the latter, much more harm can be done to God's people, especially the most vulnerable. And isn't this precisely what happened? With the sexual abuse of children which those in the institutional Church conspired to cover up and to betray the trust of ordinary Catholics?
Never you mind about whores Maggie. Whores have better manners than you in any case, you arrogant, ignorant pig. Did you report that boyo who had sexual fantasies about children yet?
DeleteYou don't know when to stay down, do you 16:54?
DeleteIf you must be a fool (and you assuredly are), then why not be a fool after Paul the Apostle? 'A fool for Christ'? There's merit in that kind of fool.
So many deaf ears. (Sigh)
Did you report the child sex fantasist yet, Maggie?
Delete21:43, yes, I reported him. But with no evidence of wrongdoing, nothing could be done by the authority to whom I reported him, beyond monitoring him to obtain evidence. This was done.
DeleteWhat you clearly don't understand (nor want to understand) is that action against someone on the basis of a single, unsubstantiated allegation cannot, lawfully, be taken. Such is your irrational and unchristian desire to avenge yourself against me for making you look the fool you actually are that you are beginning to sound quite unbalanced. I'd be very careful, if I were you. Watch what you say.
"Unchristian"? That's rich coming from you luv.
DeleteSomeone tells you in the 1980s that he has an attraction towards children. Ok you reported it then but there weren't the checks and balances that exist now - plus what we have all experienced as a result of the actions of people like this.
No, Maggie, it's you who needs to be careful. You have a duty to report the guy by name to the NBSCC today and also to his bishop - explaining what he told you in the 1980s and your action then.
It's up to the National Board for Safeguarding to decide if he poses a risk, etc.
The only person coming across as "unbalanced" Margarita - and the only person you make look a "fool" - is YOURSELF - you vitriolic old queen of the trolls LOL
Delete00:27, did I say that this event occurred in the 1980s? No; you ASSUMED it. Fool.
DeleteYou aren't just a fool (and I've demonstrated this beyond question); you're a total idiot.
Such is your unvarnished hatred of me, your comments betray your lack of not just objectivity, but your lack of everyday common sense.
00:27, hey, fool! The National Board for Safeguarding Children is a Republic of Ireland organisation set up in 2006. I don't live and work in that country, fool. So I am not bound by its laws.
DeleteYou just can't help making an idiot of yourself, can you?
Wrong again Mags. It doesn't matter if it was 80s or 90s or whenever. If you have any regard for children you will report what you were told to the NBSCC which is an ALL IRELAND organisation set up to safeguard children in every Catholic parish in Ireland - North, South, East and West. ALL the bishops, including the Northern bishops are signed up to it. Get it done now - there's a good girl - less of the histrionics. "Unvarnished hatred" of you?? I couldn't give a flying fxxx about ya luv. But I do worry about some pervert that you know and were told about 'out there', doing (having done) God knows what!!
DeleteMagna Carta, the national board is all Ireland - an independent watch dog body that monitors safeguarding of children throughout the Irish Catholic Church. You are bound also by God's Law. If you don't report what you were told by that person back then, you are negligent.
Delete13:39, you really don't know when to stay down, fool, do you?
DeleteWhat matters here is that you keep trying to pass off assumption as fact. But then, I did say you were a fool. And I don't answer to fools, especially those prone to unbridled flights of fancy.
Keep living in the realm of fantasy, fool.
13:52, I am not bound by anything except my conscience. And my conscience is clear.
DeleteMaggie the troll - paedophile protector. You are no better than Brady. The only "fool" is you.
Delete19:24, nice try, fool.
DeleteHey, fool. A piece of advice . If you want to persuade someone of your opinion, don't come at him as if you've just graduated top of your class in the Idi Amin School of Diplomacy.
Calling a person such names as 'arrogant, ignorant pig' are not likely to be argument winners. You ass.
Seriously. Mags, do you ever listen to yourself? From which School of Diplomacy did you graduate? The Vlad the Impaler School???
DeleteYou fight fire with fire, you obtuse and wicked old bitch.
21:25, splittin' my sides laughin'. At you.
DeleteThe facts you have supplied yourself, Magna Carta are as follows:
DeleteA fellow seminarian shared with you sometime in the past, in Maynooth, that he has a sexual attraction towards children. You reported the matter to someone in authority. Nothing was done due to it being "hearsay".
It is very strange that a young man would admit this to you.
The fact that nothing was done when you raised concerns shows that Maynooth's problems are not a recent development.
Was this seminarian ever ordained? Where is he today? Has he access to children?
It would be very advisable for you to share with the NBSCCC that this person (give his name) admitted to you his predilection in the past.
This All-Ireland independent body can discreetly ascertain if there is (has been) any risk to children.
It is obviously a matter for your own conscience. Personally, I would not be able to rest in receipt of such information until I had passed it on to competent and responsible persons.
Social Worker, Dublin.
You're "splittin' your sides are you Maggie? Cackle away .... "For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, so is the laughter of the fool: this also is vanity" (Ecclesiastes 7:6).
Delete22:50, the information WAS passed to a 'competent and responsible' person.
DeleteWas it really 'very strange' that this young man would admit such a thing to me? Not every paedophile acts upon his attractions; as a 'social worker' (if, indeed, you are who you claim to be), you should know this.
I believed, firmly, that this person would not act upon his attraction, because, in the main, he chose to confide his proclivity to me, even though he knew that I did not share it.
He did not admit to me that he had ever offended in this way, nor that he intended to offend. He appeared totally in control of his proclivity; it was not in control of him.
22:55, be careful not to tell that other fool (unless you are actually he) that you used the word 'fool' in one of your posts: he'll tell you you're going to burn for eternity.
DeleteI honestly think all churches are the same. If he is contacting someone because he just wants to talk, that is fine with me. I wish they would allow married priests and recognise that being gay is very normal. I wish the church would get real and admit that their priests are human beings who are entitled to companionship and a life partner like everyone else.
ReplyDeleteMichael did his CPE in the summer of 2015 in New York
ReplyDeleteWhat is CPE?
DeleteA pastoral placement ?
I am not the poster above at 14.01.but seeing that you asked the question - - - CPE stands for "Clinical Pastoral Education" and is a graded course of study undertaken mainly by those who wish to undertake some type of chaplaincy work, particularly hospital or institutional posts. The student usually has one or more mentors and written and discussion aspects involving tutorials and peer evaluations etc.
DeleteAye the not so holy sister from Loretto living in Ballyclare conducts the course. She's supposed to be a Chaplain in Antrim Area but well scarlet pimple would be more like it
DeletePat, you call yourself a churchman and you admit ignorance of CPE which is an important element in the formation of many priests and which has been on the go since at least the 1970s. What training did you receive for working with sick people?
DeleteThere was no CPE in my day :-) Mea Culpa.
DeleteNor was there in mine.
DeleteMichael Byrne is a hottie! OMG........some parish is gonna be very lucky to get him as its curate.......he's going to break a lot of hearts with his dark sultry looks.
ReplyDelete'Lucky to get him as its curate?' Good grief! We know what you mean here by 'lucky'... and it has nothing whatever to do with priestly piety and good moral example.
DeleteLol it's the dark sultry looks.
DeleteOf course there is nothing wrong with a seminarian having a holiday. But pretending to be a medical student...
Hmmm...
Magna Carta
Oh dear... we get the ubiquitous "OMG" and the "hottie". (Obviously a gushing teenage poster..)
DeleteWise up! As if...
DeleteAnd that "Wise up! As if.." is definitely directed at the post at 14.45, in case there should be any doubt..
DeleteWe are not so immature and shallow as to judge anyone on his looks and certainly not a priest!
ReplyDeleteCPE Clinical Pastoral Education is a programme where students gain experience working with the chaplaincy depts. in hospitals for about 12 weeks.
ReplyDeleteI'd definitely be at mass every Sunday if Michael Byrne was my priest. He certainly is a huge improvement on the many ugly priests at the moment! Apart from young Byrne are there any good looking priests in Ireland?
ReplyDeleteWhat a reason for going to Mass !
DeleteI'm presuming 18 33 is a throwaway comment. Sad if this is the level of general religious awareness. Certainly not typical of most posters on here
DeleteHis superiors will know if he did the CPE course in NYC, in 2015. Send them on a copy of the e-mail.
ReplyDeleteI suspect, Mr "Gorgeous" won't be ordained and will be heard of no more - along with the Mad Puck Goat. It will be done quietly.
CPE is a very intensive 3 month course........Clinical Pastoral Education. Fair play to young Michael Byrne for doing it......it's a very challenging course. He'll go far......if given the chance, and the space.
ReplyDelete"He'll go far.." you say? --maybe the further the better!
DeleteI agree, Sean. (See post 16.40 above for example)
DeleteHow can anyone justify A priest in the making having sex randomly,nothing to do with love.
ReplyDelete18:57, 'He'll go far'? That, in a nutshell, is the worry. Given the evidence to date of his licentiousness, he may go much farther in the future, bringing even greater scandal and division to an already badly fractured Irish Church.
ReplyDeleteHe can go as " far as he likes so long as it is in the direction leading away from here, I say!!!
DeleteMay be something or nothing MB being in US. If he were on a hospital placement he could say he was a medical student but this to sound alarm bells Why would he want to cover up that he is ordained. If he experiences barriers now is the time to address them. I speak with the wisdom of hindsight
ReplyDeleteSean Page; Magna Carta [sick]; Sean Page; Magna Carta [sick]; Sean Page; Magna Carta [sick]...Broken Record...please please please Bishop Pat, stop.
ReplyDelete20.04 I'm afraid I see you as a broken record also. Can you please address content rather than picking on names. Pat a bit of wise judgement Is called for here. Poster is anonymous giving a skirt to hide behind
DeleteI agree, Sean.
DeleteMagna Carta
You said a few blogs ago, 20:04, that you had posted your last comment. Really?
DeleteWhy don't you try engaging with us CIVILLY and you'll be treated civilly in return? But remember that no one is obliged to agree with anyone's point of view.
If celibacy is the issue for these guy whydid they just not side shift to a different organisation. Or is it a case that they really like tge thrills of tge chase in the Roman Rite.
ReplyDeleteIf the Church did less navel gazing, chucked the turgid nonsense of Pastores Dabo Vobis and its related texts in the bin, and applied a bit of common sense we'd have great priests and great men in training. As it is any man who is masochistic enough to put himself forward for useless introspection and permit himself to be subject to the prurient gaze of formators, themselves psychologically damaged by being formed in the same system, is hardly likely to turn out well. Take for example celibacy and chastity - the candidate is expected to 'integrate' his sexuality. Now, there's an oft used phrase that is, in fact, entirely without meaning. Try 6/7 years of listening to meaningless drivel about 'integrating sexuality' and one begins to understand why Mr B took to Silver Daddies.
ReplyDeleteExcellent, insightful comment.
DeleteWho gives a flying fxxk what the lad did in NY or is it the standard of this blog to dig up dirt on people?
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely yes 22.22 if this man is hoping to be a priest.
ReplyDeleteIf he isn't Then really I don't care much except that I get an envelope and am expected to put money in it to educate clerical students
Today I put it in the bin
So you didn't get to mass on St Patricks day? The envelope for gaynooth was for that day
ReplyDeleteSo perhaps 'Gorgeous' is seen as a high flyer (albeit one rather troubled by sex) by his superiors? Many a priest living a double life has been kept on because he also has a great ministry.
ReplyDeleteI wonder whether there's an element of his superiors actually wanting a handsome seminarian ('See, the church/priesthood is young and sexy!'), while they turn a blind eye to his sexual activity. I find it difficult to believe he and King Puck will not be ordained because if not they would have been thrown out of training by now.
Magna Carta
In the bin along with peters pence
ReplyDelete“Medical student” is probably just one of his many guises online. LOL.
ReplyDeleteUnfortunately, it is not unusual for gay men to reinvent themselves on a regular basis. I am not judging anybody though.
Ha ha!... Good one... So we are not to use the oldfashioned word "lying" then?.. Instead we say, people are "reinventing themselves"! Is that it?
DeleteThere you go, guys.. How creative can you get?
Well, Gorgeous is certainly a great asset for Dublin diocese insofar as he look good! In other words, he's a great advertisement for priesthood, and, what organisation doesn't use the most attractive people to sell their products? Gorgeous is hot......much hotter than others in the diocese and hotter than the two new deacons being ordained in Rome at Easter.
ReplyDeleteSmart move Dublin!
Yuck!... they are welcome to him. I think maybe we deserve better.
DeleteWho cares ....It's not a beauty pageant for Heaven's sake!
DeleteI was in Maynooth 10 years ago. The internet sex thing didn't seem as advanced as now... But it was clear as water that the gay men were getting ordained without hesitation. Msgr Farrell was too removed from students. Donal O'Neill just needed his ego massaged and any man could get around Hugh Connolly if they didn't challenge his use of mental reservation.
ReplyDeleteMaynooth is the reason I know the Irish Church is but a men's club designed to give a place to men who have no real place.
God pays a heavy price in Ireland for man's weaknesses.
What about the alleged rape, Pat?
ReplyDeleteThat remains an unresolved matter - for now!
DeletePat what do you mean by unresolved matter?
ReplyDeleteI mean it is still the subject of a Gardai inquiry.
DeletePat you have put forward a number of complaints to the GardaĆ has there been any prosecutions from the complains you have made?
DeleteI have referred 3 complaints to the Gardai:
Delete1. The alleged sexual harassment of the heterosexual seminarian in Maynooth.
2. The death of Michael Deegan in Thurles Seminary.
3. The alleged rape in Bray in 2015.
All 3 are open files and ongoing investigations.
Some investigations take a long time to conclude.
I believe there to be substance in all 3.
Irish government plans two investigations of Garda! You could be waiting a wee bit longer Pat
DeleteTBH pat, the mind boggles when you look at the pics of byrne and all the mad stuff last year with the puck goat and the rest... why is that maynooth place still open at all? it should be designated a no go area for any god fearing young chap with a mind to follow god's call..
ReplyDeleteYou are right.
DeleteThats the RC gang for you.
Michael Deegan was a great young guy. RIP.
ReplyDeleteMichael Deegan?
Delete23.53
ReplyDeleteU are rite
I wasn't At mass on the 17 th, and for the record I just put money in a basket at fr Brian's mass, yes I put the odd fiver in an envelope for my parish and keep a record to make sure I don't overdo what I want to contribute. A grandchild Puts it in, there again he might just pocket it...I'm not bothered....whatever
I don't know why people are raving over Byrne's good looks. Those photos of him were taken a while ago now, believe me, he has aged and not well. He is more chunky not slim and he also has a big fat hairy ass. If your into that sort of thing then good luck to you. His arse is now huge, take it from someone who knows.
ReplyDeleteBarcelona
Pat,
ReplyDeleteThere is an inherent contradiction in your reference to 'that's the RC gang for you' You went to great lengths to ensure that your 'ordination' to the episcopate was by one of the said RC gang. A clear statement that you recognise their ordination as the only valid one.
So who did ordain you , Pat, to the episcopate ?
ReplyDeleteAnd why did you need to become a bishop ?
I would have even more respect foryouhadyou remained a humble priest.
I was consecrated by two non Roman Catholic bishops.
DeleteI became a bishop as the presiding presbyter of The Oratory Society and to ordain others.
I appreciate that georgous Will change in looks...who cares
ReplyDeleteBut what disturbed About him is his addiction To male sex
If he get ordained surely he will be notorious for ever more
The Catholic Church Will be disgraced And Martin made a laughing stock, if he already isn't
23:23 - sounds like a jealous bitch! LOL
ReplyDeleteThis blog reads like a bunch of sexually repressed bitches.....
Maynooth
10.40 You sound an even greater bitch and from Gaynooth of all places. What's to be jealous about? Certainly not fat hairy arsed Byrne.
ReplyDeleteEven if Gorgeous has a fat hairy arse, as Barcelona has stated,I'd still love to get my hands on it......he's still the hottest guy in seminary.
ReplyDeleteDisgusting creature!
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