Thursday 11 May 2017

THE SHAME OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH

SEXUAL ABUSE - DONEGAL - RAPHOE DIOCESE

FATHER EUGENE GREENE

FATHER EUGENE GREENE
Father Eugene Greene was a Catholic Priest who was sentenced to 12 years in prison in 1999 for abusing 26 boys over 20 years.[1] see Sexual abuse scandal in Raphoe diocese.


"THE PAEDOPHILE PRIESTS HAD THE DISEASE - THE BISHOPS SPREAD THE DISEASE"


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38 comments:

  1. MournemanMichael11 May 2017 at 00:27

    Old news Pat. Saw this video a long time ago, possibly from link to your blogsite, but not certain.
    But if indeed it was previously available from your blogsite, what purpose in reposting it? If not from your site previously then sorry, just ignore my query.
    MMM

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    1. MMM, The Blog is not a "news" blog.

      Some will have seen this film. Some will not.

      On the Blog we are on a journey of discovery, reflection and assessment.

      I watched this film yesterday (again) and thought it worth placing here.

      Those looking news have Sky :-)

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    2. Never had you down as a Murdoch man Pat!

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    3. I worked for the News of the World for 11 years - from 1994 - 2005.

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    4. Oh right. Well I did quite like Wendy Deng, much better than Jerry Hall.

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  2. I did not see this film before and in fact had not heard of these cases or if I did I had forgotten. I cried after the first ten minutes and my heart goes out to these poor men who will carry their wounds with them to the grave. This Green man is either evil or sick or maybe both. What I find unforgivable is that his bishops moved him around to spread his evil all over. I have long since lost faith in the Catholic church and this film reaffirms my decision to have nothing to do with these awful men. "Have they no fear of God at all"?

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  3. Darragh McIntyre's opening words really needled me: 'Ireland's attachment to the Catholic Church is straining to breaking point.'

    For heaven's sake, can we please stop identifying the Catholic Church as its clergy: they are NOT the Church. They never were and they never will be. Yesterday's blog had Archbishop Eamon Martin do precisely the same.

    I do not and will not serve any Catholic bishop, including the soundbite-fond, so-called 'Holy Father', Pope Francis.

    God alone deserves our loyalty, for he alone is faithful.

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    1. God deserves our faith, hope and love. Loyalty is for dogs.

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    2. 10:16
      We would do very well in God's eyes to emulate the loyalty of dogs!

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    3. Love, almost by definition, is loyal...otherwise it wouldn't be love.

      Loyalty is a component of love. As Paul says at 1 Cor 13: 8: 'Love never ends...'

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  4. I haven't seen it before, so thanks +Pat for posting it. I'm wondering to what extent we need to look at ourselves rather than simply blaming clerics. Ireland cannot just be the victim of a predatory priestly caste. The problem of abuse has been particularly acute in Ireland and it seems that Irish missionaries took it with them to places like the US and Australia. There are other poor, rural, relatively isolated countries that haven't had the problem to the same degree. It is impossible to disentangle the church from Irish culture, but is it possible to discern aspects of the our psyche that enabled abuse and clerical control?

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    1. Good God! Are you suggesting that the propensity for child-sexual abuse is hard-wired in the Irish psyche?

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    2. Paedophilia has been scientifically linked to homosexuality. Dozens of fact based research reports available.

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    3. Then why do some paedophiles abuse little girls ???

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    4. Prepubescent, simples

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    5. 15:25, of course it has, as in homosexual paedophile. There are heterosexual paedophiles, too; many more, apparently.

      But then there are homosexuals and heterosexuals : neither in this category are paedophiles.

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    6. In the UK it has been widespread in children's homes, football clubs, boarding schools etc. In fact the church, apart from the Benedictines, has not been too bad. The worst place is within the family. The Catholic church has never had any power in this country. Perhaps the problem in Ireland is that priests and religious were considered as the nobility..perhaps they thought the law did not apply to them. When the police and judical system are mainly Catholic and in awe of the bishop, you really have no room for whistle blowers. We also had the Nolan report in 2001. I think they just reacted more quickly.

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    7. In "Sacred Silence" Donald Cozzens said that the majority of victims were teenage boys.

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    8. MourneManMichael11 May 2017 at 18:27

      Anon @09.42, that's an interesting question about the Irish psyche.
      In her 1978 book, 'A place Apart', travel writer Dervla Murphy writes about cycling around N. Ireland, while pondering on the way Irish attitudes to authority may have been influenced by the perception that much law or authority were malleable and conveniently ignored, being as they were, imposed by the oppressive British colonial power .
      Given that Ireland for so long has been dominated by the power and influence of the RC institution, and that until fairly recently, has been seen as a legitimate bedrock of authority, perhaps there is validity in examining the extent to which the abuse, cover ups etc were permitted to continue for so long by an Irish psyche conditioned to yield unquestioning loyalty to the RC institution.
      MMM

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    9. @15:25 demonstrates the dangers of a democratic church. Should we really allow someone who does not know the difference between correlation and causation to have an input into the life of the Church?

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    10. I wonder if Poland and the Philippines have the same problem.

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    11. Poland has experienced an unprecedented clerical abuse scandal. The Philippines however, seem to be experiencing a greater problem of priests engaging in sexual relations with other adults, at least according to what Filipino friends have told me.

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    12. Praise the Lord people are not in awe of anyone theses days,especially a bishop.

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  5. I remember watching this documentary in the U.K. when it was first shown several years ago, and it caused quite a stir. I recall afterwards the media reporting that many victims of clerical abuse came forward after seeing it.

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  6. The church has moved away from it's original purpose to follow Jesus. Abuse is horrible and the modern world has a very short attention span with out of sight out of mind. Abusers need to practically atone for the past. Safeguards against future abuse need to be put in place and reviewed regularly

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    1. What practical atoning have you done yourself Sean

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  7. Sean does not need to atone for anything
    He was true to himself
    Are you ?
    Leave the good man be to get on with his life

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    1. The man is a hypocrite spouting on here after what he did. Total parasite.

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    2. He had an adult relationship with an adult female and while there he cared for her and her children ???

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    3. Seminarians in Maynooth had adult relationships with adult males and who may or may not have cared for each other - I am missing the distinction?

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    4. Sean was OUT of active ministry and was not PRETENDING to be celibate!

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    5. Yes Anonymous at 22:45.
      You are missing the distinction.

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  8. 21.41. I thought we agreed not to have a go at persons on here which is a form of bullying.I commented generally and you singled me out. What I did not do was hide behind anonymity on here. I did seek forgiveness for wrongs. I did get my head fixed with the grace of God and the help of others. I got on with my life. Was St Paul a hypocrite after all he did to the Christmas. Was St Peter a hypocrite when he said I don't know Jesus. Some Pope that fella. I hope I make my point. Pat can we please stick to content and not bully posters

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  9. 22.45 you are showing yourself up as a twat.....
    Seminarians should not be seminarians if they are want to be in relationships with other adults

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    1. So true.
      No point talking to these people. They are hypocrites and see nothing wrong with it. And they are the future of the clergy.
      Congratulations folks.

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  10. Martin Ridge a garda who tried to get justice for victims of Father Greene in the Raphoe Diocese was continually defeated by the clerics who ran the diocese. The Vicar General pretended to get no complaints about the priest. Worse there was no record found of the activities of the clerical abusers making some ask if the records were destroyed. Martin Ridge's book can be got on Amazon kindle https://www.amazon.co.uk/Breaking-Silence-Quest-Horrific-Ireland-ebook/dp/B00JMEUK78/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1494541345&sr=8-1&keywords=BREAKING+THE+SILENCE+MARTIN+RIDGE

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  11. Pat, Could I suggest a topic for a future blog? Isn't it about time that the Catholic Church abandoned titles like Very Rev. Most Rev. Right Rev, etc? Should bishops stop dressing up in mediaeval garb with hats that look like a hangover from ages past. And should they refrain from parading in baroque splendour in an age when people are homeless and penniless?

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    1. I seem to remember a comment on this blog some time back something like, "All you need to celebrate Mass is a wash, a tee shirt and a stole!" (Perhaps all you really need is a humble contrite heart. :-) ) PS. Love and support to Sean Page. The personal attacks on him do not befit anyone applying to themselves the name of Christian!

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