NULTY WITH GORGEOUS |
ON SUNDAY AFTERNOON THE ROMAN BISHOP OF KILDARE AND LAUGHLIN PRAISED THE MAYNOOTH 4 AT THE BEGINNING OF AN ORDINATION CEREMONY - CONNOLLY, MULLANEY, PRIOR AND COLLINS.
He was ordaining one of Gorgeous' and King Puck's classmates to the priesthood - David Vard. Gorgeous, Kink Puck and the Tuam deacon, Aidan Gallagher were all noticable by their absence.
DAVID VARD |
The MAYNOOTH 4 were also absent.
There was no need for Nulty to name the Maynooth 4. He could simply have said that he wished to thank those concerned with the training of David Vard.
But my impression was that Nulty did this deliberately to give the TWO FINGERS to all those who have been deeply concerned with the GOINGS ON at Maynooth! In doing this he was totally ignoring the legitimate concerns of many people - and even the concerns of Diarmuid Martin of Dublin who withdrew his students from Maynooth.
This to me shows a large arrogance on Nulty's behalf. But of course that does not surprise me. I have formed the impression that he is an arrogant character anyway.
I have noticed that he likes to hang around as "one of the lads" dressed in casuals and khaki shorts. And at the same time he likes to purchase and wear very high end vestments and mitres.
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I have a very good nose for these fellas. We are dealing here with a "deep", ambitious and right wing company man.
I am told he has his eyes set on Diarmuid Martin's job in Dublin in three years time?
And when it comes to the RC Empire - we are dealing with a "MY MOTHER, RIGHT OR WRONG" CHARACTER.
ughh!
Watch him !
You're talking total crap. He's not remotely like that. And he's had those chasubles for years.
ReplyDeleteGod, Vard looks really creepy. Deep-seated tendencies me thinks.....
ReplyDeleteYou have more than once berated others for their vestments, yet you yourself have not eschewed clerical garb or vestments in your own ministry. You seem to believe you have some gift to see deep into the minds and hearts of others, especially bishops and priests, but what comes across, to me at least, is a deep seated bitterness directed towards anyone who ministers in a way you don't agree with. That people disagree with you does not ipso facto make them bad people.
ReplyDelete(Sadie on the sofa) I don't think anybody looks her best in khaki shorts and they're the divil to iron. My postman got some in that army surplus place
ReplyDeleteI'll say one thing for Fr David Vard.....I find him very attractive. As a gay guy I so would lean to him for a kiss.
ReplyDeleteYou would "lean to [David Vard] for a kiss". Well, there's a Gospel precedent for that shabby deed... Read the piece about Judas where he betrayed Jesus.
DeleteYou would "lean to him for a kiss". I'll bet you would!
DeleteYou guys are always on the prowl.
Yes, an attractive looking guy......but not as hot as Gorgeous!
DeleteI love that picture o Gorgeous' hairy ass thats doing the rounds.
DeleteIt's not a beauty contest. Bet you schoolboys are glad to soon be on summer holidays..
DeleteMy Tom cat has calmed down a lot since being neutered. He used to be like that too, always out on the prowl.
DeleteIt will be difficult for him to slip under the radar of this blog, or the scrutiny and watchful gaze of all its followers and readers.
ReplyDeleteYes those Slabbinck vestments are expensive but be fair, Pat, if you google his name virtually every photo shows him wearing the same vestments you show here. Not like some bishops who are continually shown in a different get up - and of new vestments, not old ones which escaped the purges after Vatican II.
ReplyDeleteThe other thing is Nulty's CV is different from some bishops' - he has spent a fair time as a pastor, rather than hiding in curial offices. His education was also completely in Ireland - not a hint of a Roman degree on his CV.
Yes he thanked the Maynooth 4 but we don't know his opinion of the formation there and it's only polite to say thank you.
I'm sure as an RC priest or bishop, a man is obliged to spend time with many people he mighr personally think are odious.
I can't understand this fixation with vestments. What on earth is that all about?
DeleteRe/this tedious obsession with what vestments people choose to wear.. I agree with you completely.. Who cares!! (As soon as I see a reference to vestments, I skip out that post and move on to the next one which hopefully might have a little more mature substance in it)
DeleteI once read suppressing your sexuality can manifest itself in other ways, like an obsession with vestments, for example, or being over-fussy and queenie like many these freaky he-virgins are.
DeleteDenis is one of the good guys - always cheerful at a time when there is little to be sanguine about. He comes from a well-off background, big Meath farmers around Slane. Physically, he's head and shoulders above the rest. Don't berate him because he stands out. God and his genetic make-up did that for him. Intellectually, he average. Spiritually, he has something to offer - like everyone. Personally, he's good, decent, altruistic, humourous, prayerful, thoughtful and hard-working.
ReplyDeleteYour criticism reminds me of the line in the Gospel. 'We played the pipe for you and you did not dance. We sang a dirge for you and you did not wail.'
Come on, Pat. Give him a chance. It was gracious of him to thank those involved in formation. God knows they need it.
His thanks was OTT in my view.
DeleteIndeed, it crossed the limits of sanity.
DeleteI met Bishop McNulty last year at a conference. Before he was due to speak i asked him would he be taking questions after his lecture and he replied that he surely would. But straight after his speech he headed for the exit door with no questions invited. I was sitting beside a side exit so i rushed out and met him again at the front. This was on the day when he was sending his new seminarians to Maynooth. I pleaded with him that Maynooth was not a Holy place to be sending them etc but he replied to me in a dismissive manner that Maynooth was a very "wholesome place". He was abrupt and arrogant with me and just didn't want to know..
DeleteWhen I was ordained a deacon from the same class usually officiated at the ceremony. Mentioning the other lads especially if there is controversy is to say the least insensitive. That being said every good wish to Fr Vard.
ReplyDeleteI cannot believe that after being a priest for 25 years, and at the age of 49 or 50, that Paul Prior will actually be serving in a parish for the first time. Though he'll probably be given a sabbatical after all his hard work lol in Gaynooth. What other job, apart from the religious life and academia provides sabbaticals, usually in very agreeable places?
ReplyDeleteI wonder if Paul Prior will go straight to PP, bypassing the tedious curate stage, or will he get a desk job in his diocese, or even the episcopal conference offices in his beloved Gaynooth?
Brady will look after him some way.
DeletePrior has been in parishes before. He was actually loaned to the Derry Diocese for a period. Not sure how long though.
DeleteThis blog is very unfair. You will go far to find a kinder and more decent man than Denis Nulty.
ReplyDeleteHe still must be closely watched for any unworthiness or unnecessaryness on his part, so it can be recorded in the register of strange goings-on and reported on here.
DeleteA hint of jealousy Pat? Seriously commenting on how someone looks? Book and cover!
ReplyDeleteYes. For 40 years now I have wanted to be the Roman Bishop of Kildare :-)
DeleteI remember Denis in Maynooth. He was nice, friendly, always cheerful, which wasn't always the case with IV Divines who had been hardened by 6 or 7 years of Maynooth formation. He never came across as the ambitious type, definitely not a mitre chaser I think.
ReplyDeleteCan't for the life of me think why anyone would want to be a bishop! You have to wear one of those hideous heavy hats and nobody loves you any more. Why would you want to do that to yourself? From then on, you're in the glare of the headlights and everybody is poised ready to pounce...
ReplyDeleteSome bishops are the "pouncers"!
DeleteWhat is it about Bishops wearing baseball caps? First Amy and now Nulty. I remember when Bishops had a bit of presence about them and came across as Bishops. Now they want to be one of the "lads" and appear all hip and with it. I think one of the complaints about WYD is the younger clergy wanted to be like the younger lads, dressing up in designer gear, wearing shades and exchanging mobile numbers with younger men. It's all very inappropriate the whole thing.
ReplyDeleteA LOT in what you say.
DeleteI think we heard enough about World Youth event in Poland from that farmer man whose son attended. Is that photo of Nulty not from that same event. There were Younger clergy from Armagh, Meath and Dublin becoming one of the 'boys' at that event with their expensive iPads, mobiles, fashion and expensive aftershaves. The whole thing makes me sick. What was Byrne doing being pictured with Nulty in that way? What the hell was Nulty dressed like? No wonder the Church in Ireland is in the state it's in.
DeleteI don't know Vard or Nulty, but two fingers were given to Maynooth when he had a COI vicar in with the priests. I'd rather have an ecumenical presence than a Maynooth one.
ReplyDeleteDid the CoI vicar participate in the laying on of hands ceremony and partake of communion. I remember the previous b s from some Bishops about who can receive on here.
DeleteVicar is a CofE usage. Historically that's what the Anglican PPs were - vicars of the person to whom the benefice was paid - and they did the work. In the Cof I the term is rector (or curate).
DeletePhotos show him in choir dress - dressed as he would to celebrate Eucharist. I don't know what he did during the ceremony.
DeleteWatched, of course, and any soiled linens aired on this blog.
ReplyDeleteWhat happened to the sems who didn't make it to ordination? Where are they now?
ReplyDeleteJames Boyle, Clogher
Niall Carroll, Galway
Stephen Giblin, Achonry
Kevin Malcolmson, Clogher
Barry Matthews, Armagh
Damien Nejad, Raphoe
Gerard Quirke, Tuam
David Vard, Kildare & Leighlin
An american called Tyler in the first year
There was a dominican and some africans too.
I know that GĂ©rard Quirke was one of five candidates who were ordained deacons and there was an Irish News photo line-up. Two of the other Diocesan ones were called McAleese and Connolly. The remaining two were foreign Salesians.
DeleteDavid Vard has just be ordained as per this instalment of the blog!!!
DeleteThe others probably have gay oriented jobs in bars, nightclubs, or massage parlours.
Kevin Malcolmson was ordained for Clogher last summer and ministers in Monaghan.......he's a good priest and isn't into any of the Maynooth shit or antique vestments, etc. like many of today's young priests. He's grounded in reality.
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DeleteRe. 'The others probably have gay oriented jobs in bars, nightclubs, or massage parlours.' Please
STOP defaming these men, while you hide behind Anonymity.
By all accounts it is more likely that some of them at least [ or many of them? ] were 'too holy', are heterosexual, and didn't fit in with Maynooth's gay cabal, or Maynooth's formation team's idea of what constitutes a good seminarian or priest.
There is no need for bishops or monseniors.
ReplyDeleteWhat need is there, the church should be run by the laity with just priests
No need for Pp or curate..a priest is enough
I dislike all this boss thing within religion...any religion
All the talk about who is looking for a mitre makes me think that all the priests posting here have nothing else in their lives to think about
Clogher has no bishop at present and is doing fine.......yes, a new bishop is not a necessity.
DeleteBarry 'the gossip' Matthews was ordained for Armagh. Nasty vixen.
ReplyDeleteYes, Barry Matthews was ordained in Dundalk just over a week ago on Feast of Corpus Christi, 18th June. He has just published his book on addiction also.
Deletehes a fine looking man
DeleteBarry Matthews gossip saw a few good men exit Maynooth. A tittle tattler of the highest degree.
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-cheKK3C1w
DeleteBarry 'Jessie' Matthews if I remember correctly.
DeleteWhat makes him an authority on addiction?
DeleteThe way to become an authority is usually achieved by extensive wide reading and study of every research published paper you can lay your hands on. The University libraries are often one's best source as they have access to the best of recent USA scholarship as well as that of UK and Ireland. Other forms of media such as documentary films can be helpful too,particularly if this was part of MA or Doctorate or counselling studies. In addition, there is the valuable primary sources of information eg interviewing present or past addicts and their families, medical Staff etc.
DeleteHope this is helpful to you.
I think if Nulty turned up in Rome dressed like that as a Bishop they would pull him aside. The Swiss Guard would certainly tell him quickly to cop himself on. There is a time and a place, it's a thing they call decorum. I sent this picture to a friend in Rome today, the simple reply was one word, "Indignazione".
ReplyDeleteNot sure about some of the other seminarians you name, but I know Kevin Malcolmson (with another candidate, Stephen Duffy) WAS ordained in Monaghan Cathedral on 24th July last year. This was widely reported in the Parish bulletins of Clogher Diocese at the time. There were also newspaper reports and photos as you would expect. I am not sure where Fr Malcolmson was placed but I am sure someone will know if this blog is widely read.
ReplyDeleteJames Boyle(Clogher ordained deacon in Rome. It was about the third week of April just past.
ReplyDeleteReally! Any news articles?
DeleteJames Boyle Clgher was dropped by the diocese and has not been ordained a deacon recently.
DeleteSorry for the misunderstanding. I thought James Boyle had gone through with it to deacon.
DeleteSorry, we thought James Boyle had continued...
DeleteYes, you are correct (though it may have been 21st rather than 24th)
ReplyDeleteFr Malcolmson is in Monaghan as a curate.
Why is Barry called the gossip
ReplyDeleteDid he tell tales on the grinder lot ?
Barry was the first person I was warned about when I went to Maynooth. He was notorious for gossiping, stirring shit and generally being poison.
DeleteAlso, most recently there was an Ordination in St Peter's Cathedral. Belfast last Sun 25th June. of Fr Manuelito Milo by Bishop Treanor. Fr. Milo's parents came over from the Philippines for the occasion.
ReplyDeleteManuelito's parents have lived in Belfast for quite some time. A fine and decent lad.
DeleteDamien Nejad was ordained in Letterkenny Cathedral on 11th Dec by Bishop Boyce.
ReplyDeleteAnd no word at all, Pat, from Kerry on the Mad Puck Goat! He should surely have been ordained by now. No sign of "Gorgeous" either.
ReplyDeleteDecided to go to David Vards ordination last Sunday, whatever you say about Bishop Nulty the ordination was the most emotional ordination l have ever been to and l have been to my far share as a former seminarian. Truly incredible day that l can't seem to find the words to do it justice. Bravo Fr David and the Parish of Newbridge. His homily at his first mass was one of the best l've ever heard. Maybe, just maybe the Maynooth 4 did something right with Fr Davids formation journey.
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