Monday, 3 July 2017

Pope Francis has removed the Catholic Church's top theologian in a major shake up of the Vatican.

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It has emerged that Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Mueller - the Church's hardline doctrinal watchdog who has publicly clashed with the pope over divorce reforms - will not have his five-year mandate renewed.

The position will instead be filled by his deputy, Jesuit Archbishop Luis Ladaria.


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Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Mueller has been the Catholic Church's top doctrinal watchdog for the past five years

Mueller, 69, from Mainz in Germany, was appointed by the former Pope Benedict in 2012 as head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith.

He has been in charge of keeping the church's orthodoxy and presiding over sexual abuse allegations.

His conservative ideology has led to him clashing publicly with Pope Francis several times, as the pontiff forges ahead with his vision of a more inclusive church.

In 2015 Mueller was one of 13 cardinals who signed a secret letter complaining that a meeting of bishops discussing family issues was biased in favour of liberals.

Mueller will now be replaced by his deputy, Jesuit Archbishop Luis Ladaria

In 2016 he criticised the papal treatise called 'The Joy of Love', which was an attempt by Pope Francis to make the Catholic Church more inclusive and less condemning.

In the document the pontiff sided with progressive proposal to allow some divorced and remarried Catholics to receive communion.

This horrified traditionalists, who believed divorcing and remarrying was adultery and therefore a sin.

Mueller then became a conservative hero by saying there should be no exceptions to the rule, because in the eyes of the Church their first marriage is still valid.

During a trip to Philadelphia in September 2015, he said 'it's not possible' for violators of doctrine on divorce, homosexuality and abortion to be welcomed completely back into the church.

Mueller is an ardent traditionalist, and has argued that it is 'not possible' for violators of doctrine to be welcomed back into the church.

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Mueller's resignation is seen as a chance for the pontiff to reorganise the Catholic church in his vision.

Reverend James Martin told the New York Times: 'This gives the pope the chance to finally place his own man in a very important spot.

'For many admirers of Benedict, Cardinal Mueller was the last link to Benedict's way of doing things.'

However not all within the Vatican were fans of new appointment Luis Ladaria

Mueller's resignation is seen as the chance for the pope to build a more progressive church

One priest who knows both men said: 'They [Francis and Ladaria] speak the same language and Ladaria is someone who is meek. He does not agitate the pope and does not threaten him.'

In March, a prominent church reform group called for Mueller's resignation after accusations that senior officials had willfully ignored Pope Francis' decision to create a new tribunal to judge bishops who cover up sexual abuse.

The Pope has been commended for his attempts to make the Catholic Church more welcoming

PAT SAYS:

It seems to me that Francis does want to change the Catholic Church and bring it's teachings into the 21st century without abandoning all the basics and essentials.


There is no doubt that he has been meeting resistance from those in the Roman Curia - people like Cardinal "Mother" Burke and Mueller.



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MOTHER BURKE IN PARTY DRESS

The only way to deal with them is to send them home to the USA and Germany.


Of course they and their supporters will continue to make trouble from the sidelines.

But Francis is the pope and holds the too cards - that if they don't slip him a Mickey Finn! 

No one man can change 2000 years of power abuse and corruptions on his own.

But Francis is doing some good - albeit it too slowly for some of us.

He certainly needs to seriously shake up the Irish mitre wearers !


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128 comments:

  1. I think it is accepted that Pope Francis intends to visit Ireland. I think he will have his finger on the pulse much more than people expect
    He has perception and judgement, particularly in matters of timing.
    Timing is a very important skill for a person in authority.
    (The right thing introduced at the wrong time can fail.
    The wrong thing introduced at the right time can succeed. So you see timing is everything.)

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    1. Jeez! You're a willing dupe.

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    2. If he, Francis, visits Ireland I think it will either be a PR success or a disaster. Given the lack of local interest in the Eucharist congress I think it may well be a flop. The visit will no doubt attract visitors from the UK, but even then I think I interiest will be low amoung the 30-60 age group.

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    3. There will be overwhelmingly large crowds at all the Papal visit venues. Make no mistake about it. We don't need anyone to lecture us on how to give a warm welcome,thank you!

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  2. Sweet Jesus, what does Burke look like in yards of Roaring Red Tafita? An extra from the Borgias springs to mind! How can anybody take someone like that seriously/ No wonder the church is in a mess. He makes Panty Bliss look tame!

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    1. Why do you mince your words? Burke is an effete ass.

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    2. And has the gall to blame the child abuse scandal on 'feminised' clergy! He also dresses up way beyond what old usages would suggest - for example the cardinal's hat was only worn on being made a cardinal and the cappa magna was used only on very special occasions.
      Pat I hope you wear the cappa magna in your cathedral?

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    3. Burke looks just like my aunty Margery.

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    4. A rancid flower.

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    5. My aunt would take objection to being called a rancid flower as she tries to wash any week she gets time.

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    6. No, I was referring to grimm's-fairy, Burke. LOL.

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    7. I don't think my aunt would like to be compared to grimm's thing either. She would take the odd Pims but denies everything..

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  3. He certainly is carrying a lot of material! I'm glad I don't do his ironing.

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  4. When is the purposed papal visit to Ireland to take place?

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  5. Must say him in the tights does look rather strange to say the least. What was the occasion. I think changes in church head office will take a long time to hit the ground if ever. All we can do is the best we can in the field of good soil thorns and rocks that we find ourselves in. It is God that gives the growth

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  6. Well Burke is after all a Prince of the Church and entitled to wear that clobber.

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    1. He is supposed to be a servant; Christ commands his disciples to be such.

      Servants do not dress like princes.

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    2. What size of wardrobe holds yon red yoke that Burke is trailing after him?

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    3. Mind, "men" like old mother Burke don't have wardrobes... they have closets.

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    4. Now THIS is clever; this is funny.

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  7. Pope Francis told the new Cardinals who were created last week that they are not Princes but servants.
    Burke is a nincompoop.

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    1. Well Burke is paying very much heed (not) to what Francis said to Cardinals last week. He is one of many who lets what Francis says go in one ear and out the other. Lip service. Nobody takes what Francis says seriously.

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    2. It is a very insulting overstatement to arbitrarily claim that "nobody takes what Francie(sic) says seriously". You certainly don't speak for thousands of people who have some respect and a lot less arrogance.

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    3. Monsignor Basil Loftus tells Cardinal Burke to “get a life… get a Christian life rooted in the concrete reality of everyday living”.

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  8. If Pope Francis comes to Ireland there will be a huge turnout. Catholicism is in our DNA.

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    1. Yep! The poor, stupid Irish. They showed this DNA trait when the emotionally adulterous Pole condascended to visit this little outpost in '79.

      What servile fools the Irish made of themselves then! And since they seem incapable of learning and of acquiring at least a modicum of self-respect, they'll probably repeat the fiasco if Papa Francis visits.

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    2. Oh you poor bitter man. Hibernia Semper Fidelis.

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    3. 'Hibernia Semper Fidelis'? But to what? Sadly, to the Roman slut.

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  9. Our priest has remarked, once that I can recall during Mass, and quite often in private conversations, that Jesus at the Last Supper, just wore his ordinary daily clothes - no vestments such as we have now, and most certainly did not carry a crozier or wear a mitre.
    It would be very much more preferable if all the present day 'clobber' was abandoned and the priest wore his ordinary, every day clothes.
    Been some time since I posted here - Magna Carta largely intolerable.
    Pip

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    1. Well, vestments as everyone knows are simply derived from ancient clothing. It's just human nature to want to wear something different for certain offices or occasions. Like the old Methodist who had to wear his preaching jacket for Divine Service.

      My mother who worked for a university often told me how excited academics were to wear their gladrags, as she called them, for graduations and convocations. They often drove her nuts with their petty requests about robes.

      At least ++ Burke is a real Cardinal. I've seen pics of an Old Catholic archbishop in Florida wearing a cappa magna in a potty church. It seemed to stretch out into the parking lot. Also a prelate was seen wearing an old cappa in S. Clement's in Philly, that looked as if it came from the ecclesiastical trenches of eBay.

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    2. Pip, if I'm intolerable, then don't read my comments. The fact that you do shows you find them irresistible.

      You're mixed up, aren't you dear?

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    3. By the way, Pip, I made you a promise some time ago that I would stop what you called going 'ha ha'in my comments; this is what you asked of me. Remember? Well, I kept that promise. But no more, given your more recent and uncharitable remark. Ha ha ha 😆

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    4. If you want to look like a donkey, sound like a donkey and behave like a donkey, can you not realise that you are a donkey.
      Apologies to normal donkeys.
      Pip

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    5. And you're an ass, Pip dear. Ha ha ha 😅😆

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    6. A promise, Magma, should be unconditional, something that does not register in your uneducated comprehension of normal human standards!
      Can you advise me how you might avoid reading my contributions. This might help me to avoid reading yours which, i would imagine because of their unique frequency most people would find hard to avoid.
      Magma was as error, but is suitable in your case - dangerous overheated stuff coming out of volcanoes.

      Pip

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    7. Well, Pip, to state the bleedin' obvious, all my posts have the username, Magna Carta, so, er, just don't read them.

      And no, promises are not always unconditional, like the assurance of salvation. In commercial terms, cashing in this policy depends on paying the premiums: regular repentance.

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    8. Can I not read read your Magma, Magna, in the probably forlorn hopefully that your stuff might improve.
      Pip

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    9. There's wheat among the chaff, Pip. But you may have to search for it. Your call.

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  10. Magna Carta is utterly intolerable, Pip. But she is allowed a free hand to be as nasty and vicious as she likes.

    She needs to go to AA. methinks. That would be a good start. In need of some form of CBT perhaps.

    She has issues and should definitely be in some type of program but that is no excuse for her attitude towards others.

    Like I said, Pat Buckley gives her free reign but then of course she licks up to him.

    Welcome back in any case, Pip.

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    1. Magna licks up to no one, dearie, not even Jesus.

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    2. Re/Jesus... Yes, we gathered that alright.

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    3. Er, Jesus isn't looking for lickers.

      What a strange God you worship (lick).

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    4. Maggie **** off. You're a tiresome bore. You lick up to Pat and he allows your deranged rants free range on here. In the real world you would get a good kick up the h***. ��

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  11. Pat, Phonsie in Waterford told a clergy gathering at the weekend about the incident with you in Tramore Church. He basically said your sole purpose for being there was to provoke him and to create a scene in the Church. I was present that day Pat but didn't manage to speak with you. I must say I found it totally unchristian of the man in the way he behaved towards you. It's still very much talked about down here.

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    1. My sole purpose was to attend John Shine's funeral who had been my teacher and friend for 40 years.

      I sat in a dignified manner and took part in the Mass as a member of the congregation.

      I went to Communion to offer up my Mass and Communion for John.

      Phonsie went bananas and let himself down.

      You are right. It was unchristian.

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    2. Was it true Pat that he tried to get you thrown out of the Church in Tramore? If he did then he's a fine one to be leading the flock by example. No wonder why the Irish Church is in the state it is. Some clergy have been engaged in gay and heterosexual promiscuity - would he decline them Holy Communion the oul hypocrite?

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    3. He tried to get 4 priests to carry me out. Only 1 responded. I told them I would have them charged if they touched me.

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  12. Pat stop repeating media spin. The pope is not a progressive but a bigot. He wrote "There are absolutely no grounds for considering homosexual unions to be in any way similar or even remotely analogous to God's plan for marriage and family. Marriage is holy, while homosexual acts go against the natural moral law. Homosexual acts “close the sexual act to the gift of life. They do not proceed from a genuine affective and sexual complementarity. Under no circumstances can they be approved”". The worst homophobia is when society refuses to help a gay couple stay together and that is exactly what he is advocating.

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    1. I note that one of Magna Carta's contributions was at 04:05.
      Would a good night's sleep, I wonder, improve his outlook on the human race - even a low percentage increase would be very welcome.

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    2. There was a film on about vampires out at night.

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    3. Oh, God! I've bin rumbled.

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    4. Ha ha Magna - oooooOOOO-Oh!!

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    5. An alcoholic vampire possessed of monumental arrogance. But, mark my words, Maggie will get her comeuppance one fine day.

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    6. Maybe my comeuppance will be that of the 'Good Thief'.

      We, none of us, get what we really deserve. It's why Jesus is God...and you're not.

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    7. 12:45, you make an excellent point about Francis, which, unfortunately, none of the previous comments (including mine) even mentions.

      You are right: Francis IS a homophobic bigot, because he clearly defines gay relationships in overtly sexual terms; he sees nothing good in them.

      He should spend time with gay couples in long-term, stable and monogamous relationships; he would learn that at least some of his understanding of these comes from homophobic prejudice.

      It beats me how people can speak of situations they know little or nothing about. It is morally wrong, plain and simple.

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    8. Homosexuality is disordered Magna. It is not in accordance with the natural order.

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    9. It is part of the natural order, so it cannot be 'disordered'. It is present not just among humans, but among animals, like penguins, dogs, elephants, dolphins, etc.

      The word 'disordered' here is a human construct, not a natural one. It is, therefore, entirely subjective. A choice, as it were.

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    10. 19:55. words. just. fail me.

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    11. Yes words do fail simple minds. Magna, Jesus never said it is ok to sodomise whatever man you want.

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    12. He did say it was ok to love them. In fact, I believe he insisted upon it.

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  13. If the present is boring look to the past Check out Pope John 12.

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    1. Well, no one can honestly accuse John XII of being boring. An ass? Yes, An adulterer? Yes. An incestuous pervert? Yes. A sadist? Yes. A murderer? Yes. But a boring, oily old fart, like Pope Francis? Never!

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    2. You really are a messed up poor soul. That acid tongue has poisoned your heart. I will pray for you.
      You'll die in sin!

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    3. If you insist I die in sin (that exclamation mark of yours was a dead giveaway), then why bother praying for me.

      I think you should lie down for a while.

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    4. Yes, John Xll should never have been Pope and it was fitting that the Synod of the time deposed him. His being made Pope was an example of what happens when you go against correct procedure.

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  14. Why did God destroy the world in Noah’s day? It was because they were ungodly. He could not see any image of himself in humanity. When you become ungodly it means that there is nothing within you that reflects the image of God. That is why he destroyed Sodom & Gomorrah. They were pleasure seekers not God seekers. Peter tells us that ungodliness is rebellion against God’s constituted authority; it is calling good evil and evil good. People with an insatiable capacity for sinning; Lawlessness within is the nature of the devil himself. The spirit of the antichrist is a rejection of Christ and his ways. This present generation is now worse than the generation of Sodom. The prophet Daniel (7:7) described the 4th beast as different from all the other beasts and the purpose is to change all the laws that have been already set. This 4th beast seeks to change all traditions and create an unnatural civilization, by changing the natural order. Today they are re-defining marriage * manhood * womanhood * parenthood and childhood and the way they are changing the natural order according to (1 Macc 1:34) is they are installing an army of sinful perverse men and women in positions of power. Today we have many powerful people ruling in Governments, in the Media, in the legal system that years ago would never have been in power. We are seeing a total reversal of the natural order. The spirit of the antichrist seeks to change what is natural to what is unnatural. What was mainstream now has become the fringe and what was fringe has now become the mainstream. People who were once considered leaders, lighting up God’s word and God’s ways now find themselves pushed out and treated as bigots, troublemakers and intolerant and now we have a reversal of culture as Isaiah 5:20 says ‘calling evil good and good evil, calling darkness light and light darkness’ What was profane has now become celebrated and what was holy has now become profane.

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    1. You poor fool, and biblical literalist. The story of Noah originated extra-biblically. It comes from non-judaistic sources (Sumerian, among others).

      I said 'story of Noah' because it is precisely that: a made-up tale as a literary vehicle for conveying a religious point. It is not about God, but about control of people through fear of punishment, even such sadistic punishment as indiscriminately drowning men, women and children if society didn't comply with the ethical code of (not God), but some ruling elite.

      I don't mean to be rude, but you appear 'spooked'.
      Treat yourself to a drink, and unwind a little. Failing that, shut the **** up!

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    2. He didn't "mean to be rude"!! Now there's a first.

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  15. Other signs of the antichrist at work are the spirit of pride, arrogance and mockery. In the name of tolerance they can say what they like against God and the faith of believers. They are tolerant towards evil but intolerant to everything that is holy. The end time culture is of man declaring himself as god, re-defining morality, re-defining marriage, re-defining gender. 3 times in the 1st chapter of Romans we are told that God steps back. Whenever a nation or people rebel against God and turn away from him he steps back and lowers the hedge of protection and he allows evil to multiply and in sweeps a sexual revolution. This happened in the 1960’s. Then there was a window of grace in order for people to repent and we had a big wave of the Holy Spirit in the form of Charismatic renewal. It was meant to come into the heart of the Church but the leaders rejected it. So because of their refusal to repent, then God stepped back again and lowered the hedge and in swept sexual perversion with them all coming brazenly out of the closet and into the open Finally, God steps back again and removes the hedge completely and delivers those in the nation to a depraved mind which is what we are witnessing right now. We are seeing things today that we could never have imagined years ago. We are witnessing a great rebellion in our country and it’s the blind leading the blind. Judgment always follows acts of desecration. The rainbow is a holy sign that belongs to God and not to man. The LGBT people have desecrated this holy sign of God. By their insistence on same sex marriage they are desecrating and violating God’s divine order. This is calling evil good and good evil. They are driving God out of society, persecuting believers and all those who have come out of the closet now want to put into the closet, all those who disagree with them. So we now have a nation that has once know the ways of God but has now rejected his ways, that’s apostasy. The heart of this nation has grown cold.

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    1. Haven't you had that drink yet?

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    2. God is not mocked. Whatsoever a mañ shall sow, that also shall he reap.. (Galatians 6) Why do we behave as if He wasn't aware of every word that comes out of our mouths and of every thought in our brain? Why do we behave as if we will never be called to give an account of our stewardship? I wonder does the poster at 21.08 agree with me....

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    3. He is mocked, frequently. And mostly by religious hypocrites like you.

      I dread to think that God is aware of every bit of verbiage that tumbles from your lips, because you're an utter bore.

      One thing about the 'ungodly': at least they're not boring.

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    4. God has never been mocked by me on this blog and neither has His Church. Never was mocked by me and never will be (with His grace). I have been subjected to abuse because of the stance that I have taken. That's fine.
      I would - and will - defend Him, His Word and His Church again and yes, the abuse will roll.. That is exactly what I expect. I dare say I won't have long to wait! I never have..

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  16. Totally found this blog offputting today, the same person is back and totally dominated the whole thing. He is crass, rude, abnoxious, abusive and vulgar. More fool you Pat. Watch your blog comments plummet again from tomorrow just like the last time this happened.

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  17. John Xll? Not much we can do about him now.... Sounds as if he's been through a lot...

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  18. 21:04, the HSE provide psychological services free of charge if you have a medical card.

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  19. Our new man Abp. Ladaria Ferrer is closely implicated in the scandalous cover up of a multiple priest abuser, a Fr. Trotta. The priest was laicised but the reason was suppressed by Ladaria Ferrer (proven by a signed letter). The ex-priest then went on to manage a boys' football team and committed further (and avoidable) multiple offences involving sexual and physical abuse of team members. Ironically it is reported that Cardinal Muller's removal is partly the result of his failure to deal with outstanding sexual abuse cases quickly enough. The new man can be relied on to clear the decks very quickly to the satisfaction of all, except future victims. So the new appointment is 'interesting'. Reported in today's Times.

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  20. People are upset by that nutcase Maggie Carta. She has become a domineering, abusive, aggressive, "loud", overtly nasty, vexatious, obtuse presence on here and I believe many people no longer contribute to debate because of her viciousness.

    Pat, you yourself are never abusive or aggressive, even with those with whom you strongly disagree; and yet you allow this troll free range to abuse with her foul and vitriolic tongue.

    My advice to people: do not "feed" this troll. Do not rise to her bait. Let her rant and rave all she likes. Reasonable human beings see her diatribes for what they are.

    Withdraw from any engagement with her. You only waste your energy and you will go round in circles going NOWHERE. Take my advice and don't feed the troll.

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    1. As a matter of fact, Pat - do you know the identity of Magna Carta? Have you been trusted by him/her with that info?

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    2. They say a troll thrives on the attention... So you are wise..

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  21. Oh, my God! The level of blind stupidity sometimes expressed on this blog is almost a scientific marvel. Take this: 'My advice to people:do not ' "feed" ' this troll. Do not rise to her bait.' Er, why should anyone follow your advice? You certainly didn't by responding to me.😅

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  22. 21.27 Can I thank you for restoring my faith in humanity and for voicing what so many on here think. This man is a parasite and a piece of filth. Failed Seminarian/Priest and was never considered worthy of Ordination. We can all see why, who would ever let this lunatic and misfit near the Church? He is a failure and he knows it, that explains his bile and horrible bitterness. A Falure is our Magna Carta. Loser and always will be.

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    1. Did you skip logic classes once too often? How can I be a failed priest if I 'was never considered worthy of Ordination (sic)'?

      I swear some of you people take stupidity to stupendous depths.

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  23. How about proposing Magna Carta as life-long president of the Irish Wild-Life Society?
    No one I know deserves it better.
    Pip

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    1. Thank you, Pip.

      Pip, do you believe in Jesus? Where is the charity in your remark?

      What was it Ghandi said about 'Christians'?

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    2. That would be a horrible affliction imposed on the Irish wildlife society. No Animal needs to be subjected to the cruelty of that waste of space let alone us humans on here Pip. Ha ha ha ha.

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    3. Don't feed the troll folks. Let it rant away.

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    4. Better question would be - what would Ghandi think about you. Is there any charity in any of your remarks?
      Pip

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    5. Tut, tut! You're ducking the question, Pip my boy. Are all Xtians as gutless as you?

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  24. Like your idea, Pip but they are wild choosy who they take... Sorry.

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  25. I'm totally bored with this. How is the Meath scandal brewing? And what about the Channel 4 investigative documentary?? Did you get £400.00 appearance fee?? I wonder.

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    1. ... and another £80.00 VAT on top, mind.

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    2. Pat is not about financial gain! pat is about the truth and exposing abuse in all its forms

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    3. I was only asking.

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  26. Magna reminds me of frank Reynolds from always sunny in Philadelphia. You gotta pay the troll toll.....

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  27. Magna Carta not worthy of becoming a Priest!! Ha ha ha, best story I heard all day. Is it any wonder? Who would let THAT near an altar? Best laugh I've had in ages, The prospect of this nut job as a Priest, bursting my sides. Thank you to those who took the decision to save Magna from himself but more importantly saving us from him and the wider Church. Lol.

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  28. Certainly I personally lost any sympathy for Magna Carta after he or she trolled my attempt to make a valid point, some weeks ago. MC responded to my valid and politely-expressed point with personal insults (in fact the point I was making wasn't even my own opinion) and what can only be described as ranting, in opposition to the point I made, thereby completely distracting attention to himself.
    He, or she, also doesn't listen when people express offence at his behaviour: in fact his only function here can be to create an argument and discourage others from commenting.
    In fact since neither MC nor Pat is forthcoming about MC's real world identity, I firmly believe that he is one of Pat's detractors, deliberately trying to turn people off this blog. He could even be a seminarian, or cleric.
    21:27 has the right idea - don't respond to him, or her. Personally I also found that just copying and pasting my original post worked her up into a frenzy, because I wasn't allowing her to derail me from my point.
    Pat - I think you should cease to publish MC's comments.
    Now I'm no psychic - but just watch the tirade with which MC will respond to this comment.

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    1. I generally don't respond to longwinded comments like yours. If you can't make a point briefly, then you haven't a point worth making.

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    2. Certainly I personally lost any sympathy for Magna Carta after he or she trolled my attempt to make a valid point, some weeks ago. MC responded to my valid and politely-expressed point with personal insults (in fact the point I was making wasn't even my own opinion) and what can only be described as ranting, in opposition to the point I made, thereby completely distracting attention to himself.
      He, or she, also doesn't listen when people express offence at his behaviour: in fact his only function here can be to create an argument and discourage others from commenting.
      In fact since neither MC nor Pat is forthcoming about MC's real world identity, I firmly believe that he is one of Pat's detractors, deliberately trying to turn people off this blog. He could even be a seminarian, or cleric.
      21:27 has the right idea - don't respond to him, or her. Personally I also found that just copying and pasting my original post worked her up into a frenzy, because I wasn't allowing her to derail me from my point.
      Pat - I think you should cease to publish MC's comments.
      Now I'm no psychic - but just watch the tirade with which MC will respond to this comment.

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  29. Pat, you need to do something about the obstreperous blogger. You could limit his daily allowance for example. His posts are having a deleterious effect here.

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    1. You suffer with interminable pomposity.

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  30. Pat - you really need to get a handle on what's happening on your blog or you will find it's just you on here. You are already getting long-term readers not commenting because of Magna Carta.
    Your too-lenient moderation of his trolling is driving people away.
    The subject of the blog is becoming Magna Carta. You really need to wise up that the only effect if his comments is to make the conversation about him, the sure sign of an internet troll.
    If this was my blog I would stop publishing his comments period, because of his behaviour.
    If you don't do that you risk ending up just you and him.

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    1. But it isn't your blog, is it dear?😆

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    2. No, it's yours.

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  31. Come on, Arlene4 July 2017 at 08:58

    +Pat, why don't you just officially hand over your blog to Magna Carta, password and all. He won't set up one of his own, and if he did it wouldn't attract much interest so he leeches on to yours. Whenever he comes on here the fizz and wordplay stops. He has a deadening effect.

    A few commentators have that MC pays compliments to you, Pat, but his frequent claims that clergy are unnecessary is a slight on you. Bitter ex-seminarians such as MC should just get over the rejection.

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    1. Isn't it amazing, though, how many comments I generate from my detractors?

      So much for the 'deadening effect'.😅😆

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  32. That was the worse blog I ever read..I didn't even bother with the last half.

    Pip when will you learn ?
    No one wants to be criticised on here, u come on and start a fight.
    Were u having a day away yesterday Pat?
    Please try to remember that all of us who post here decided that personal comments wouldn't be allowed..

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  33. There's actually three sorts of internet trolls given free reign on here
    1. The false information troll
    2. The hate troll(Mrs Carter is this)
    3. The spelling and grammar Nazi troll.
    Same intent - to make the internet an unpleasant place for everyone

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    1. Ah no - - be fair! The grammar posts are always short and to the point and only long if someone asks for an explanation. They are never ever nasty.

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    2. I am being fair - it's exactly the same - distracting attention from the subject onto something else.

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    3. Other people have the same right to decide what "the subject " is at times also and are entitled to ask for and get a response without a barrage of trolling abuse. I think that is the point Pat would like you to take on board.

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  34. Totally agree. Pat, do you know Maggie Carter? Is she a personal friend of yours? Why do you allow her trolling on your page? She is a bully and a bore. She is as thick as two short planks but because, she turns her vicious tongue on anyone who ventures to differ with her, people are deciding it's not worth the hassle and they are switching off. Life is too short. Maggie is the quintessential troll. A bitter, compulsive and angry little nerd who seriously needs to get a life.

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    1. Well, you know what dear old Oscar said, don't you? 'If there is anything worse than being talked about, it is not being talked about.'

      Thank you, all my detractors here, for incessantly talking about me.

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  35. Completely and utterly agree with the comments above regarding the unacceptable abuse being dealt out to other posters by the troll MC. We have had enough. Take it or leave it.

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    1. You mean, rather, that you can't get enough of me, don't you dearie? It's why you're always talking about me.😆

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  36. Why are people referring to Magna Carter as female when he is clearly male? Sorry - for being a little dumb but I have just joined this blog. I also think he - Magna Carter makes some valid points albeit in an emphatic style.

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    1. @10:47 - you're Margaret Carter aren't you? LOL

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    2. All MC 's valid points are not the problem here. Nobody said that.. It's the utterly nasty abuse disrespectful way he/she replies to other posters. Unbelievable at times!

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    3. Thank you, 10:27.

      At last! A commentor with intelligence.👏

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    4. 10:27, they refer to me as a female because they're being abusive and belittling.

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  37. We know Maggie Carter is male. Sure didn't Big Lily see her standing starkers in the sink? Lol

    However, I don't know if you are familiar with the Maxine comics. That's how Maggie comes across in her comments - the perception of her persona - only vicious and toxic. Maxine is acerbic and very funny. Troll Carter is vitriolic and insulting.

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    1. You lave Big Lily alone, oor y'll hav me t'deal wi'. Shiz takin' hur meddication an' it takes time til work. Sh' can't help it if sh' keeps seein' things that aren't really there.

      I'm going doun til the cathedral nye til light a wee candle fer hur.

      MAGGIE CARTA (Magna's Oil Ma)

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  38. Magna Carter 10:27
    Being referred to as female should never be seen as belittling or abusive! I say this as a female. I think you keep this blog afloat at times but perhaps you need to think about how your deliver your message - sometimes important points get lost as a result of the reaction to your delivery!

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    1. Thank you for the compliment.

      With respect, those people were using the word 'female' in this way; they wouldn't have used it otherwise. Their intention was to offend; their intention was, therefore, offensive.

      I'm trying to change my style. Read my comments on the latest blog and judge for yourself.

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