Friday, 29 September 2017

THE GYNAE BISHOP

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Bishop claims cancer vaccine ‘70% safe’

Bishop Cullinan: said money would be better spent promoting chastity

The Gardasil vaccine against cervical cancer is “only 70 per cent safe”, a Catholic bishop has suggested.
Bishop Phonsie Cullinan, Bishop of Waterford and Lismore, says parents are being pressurised into agreeing to have their daughters vaccinateed. The money spent on it should be diverted to helping young people stay chaste.
Although the vaccine is backed by the World Health Organisation and other international scientific bodies, he maintains there are “conflicting opinions” from experts about its safety.
Bishop Cullinan says the experience of the Regret group of parents who have concerns about Gardasil should not be “rubbished”.
He has also asked why the vaccine is not being given to boys: “Why is this vaccine being ‘offered’ only to girls? One can add that the male contraceptive has been available for years. Are men using it? Why not? Where is the equality in that?”
In supplying his remarks to The Irish Times, Bishop Cullinan says they are intended “with great respect for medical personnel. But debate is good, once it is reasonable.”
He questions whether the vaccine will “lull our girls into a false sense of security”, making it more likely some of them engage in more risky behaviour.
Sexual activity
“More sexual activity means an increased risk of infection and therefore an increased risk of serious health problems,” he said.
“I wonder could the large amount of money being spent on this vaccine be better spent on programmes which encourage our young people to live clean and chaste lives. I know that the vaccine may do some good but from what I have read it is not the most effective way to guard against cervical cancer.”
Up to 30,000 adolescent girls are due to receive the vaccine in schools this month, but uptake rates have fallen to 50 per cent as a result of opposition from a number of groups. Their claim that hundreds of girls who received the vaccine are suffering long-term health effects as a consequence have not been supported by any scientific study.
Bishop Cullinan says the vaccine offers “no absolute guarantee” of “full protection” against cervical cancer.
“The vaccine covers 70 per cent of cervical cancers. Would you go on a plane that was 70 per cent safe? Smear tests will still be necessary.”
“There seems to be pressure on parents to get their girls vaccinated with the Gardasil product,” he said. “The insinuation is that to be a ‘good parent’ you should do this. But there are conflicting opinions from experts about the safety of this vaccine.”
‘Young lives ruined’
He suggests those interested in the concerns expressed by Regret should look up the group’s videos on YouTube.
“As a Bishop I have spoken to young people, especially young women, who tell me (with tears) how they have been used and dumped over and over. This can result in forms of depression, lack of self-esteem and even self-harm. This is what I have seen in young lives. Does our promiscuous attitude to sexual behaviour bring true happiness? And the reckless partying and porn? I see so many young lives being ruined.”

Cullinan challenged:

Sir, – Further to “Catholic bishop claims cervical cancer vaccine ‘only 70% safe’” (Online, September 27th), is it the case that a Catholic bishop can make remarks on any topic and have them appear in The Irish
Times? Or is it the case that alongside being a bishop, Phonsie Cullinan is a medical professional or researcher? One of these must be the case for your newspaper to have published his remarks on the HPV vaccine. In his remarks, the bishop says that “debate is good”, which is a fine-sounding platitude, but a person in a position of respect questioning the opinions of qualified medical professionals without any relevant qualifications of their own is not good. The simple fact of the matter is that his comments will not help parents who are unsure of what to do about the vaccine; they only risk clouding the question further.
In my opinion the bishop should not have made comments about the HPV vaccine as I don’t see that he is qualified to do so. What truly worries me, though, is how The Irish Times felt that it was newsworthy or in the public interest to print them. To me that seems simply reckless. – Yours, etc, DAVID HARTE, Inchicore, Dublin 8.


Sir, – Bishop Phonsie Cullinan’s comments on the HPV vaccine were at best ill-advised and at worst extremely ignorant.
He is ignoring vast tranches of evidence that support the safety of this vaccine and his beliefs will no doubt further confuse worried parents on this topic.
There are no “conflicting questions” from experts about its safety and the World Health Organisation has backed this up countless times.
Linking the HPV vaccine to low self-esteem and depression is plain wrong.
Mentioning the HPV vaccine in the same sentence as promiscuity, pornography and reckless partying is plain perplexing.
The best way to describe this vaccine’s safety to people like Bishop Cullinan is to use an analogy. Imagine someone has been accused of a crime and acquitted in a court of law yet is still assumed to have committed that crime by some. That is where some are on this vaccine. It has had its safety rigorously tested countless times and, importantly, it will continue to have it tested into the future. There is no conspiracy. Perhaps the bishop should listen to some of those who have suffered from cervical cancer and their families before he decides to make more ill-informed comments on this topic. – Yours, etc,

Dr NIALL BREEN, Dublin 5.

PAT SAYS:

Phonsie "The Terminator" Cullinan is now making pronouncements about lady's cervixes and calling for his version of chastity to replace medical vaccines!

And he is such an expert on the female genitalia and reproductive organs that The Irish Times quotes his every word on the matter!

I can just picture Phonsie in his little chapel in Bishop's House, Waterford, asking God's guidance on what to say about what Dame Edna Everidge calls "my front bottie".

And of course in line with his Opus Dei beliefs Phonsie will have consulted what the Church Fathers have to say about the front bottie. 


  • Woman is a temple built over a sewer. –Tertullian, “the father of Latin Christianity” (c160-225)
  • [Women’s] very consciousness of their own nature must evoke feelings of shame.–Saint Clement of Alexandria, Christian theologian (c150-215): Pedagogues II, 33, 2
  • Nor are the women to smear their faces with the ensnaring devices of wily cunning. . . The Instructor [Christ] orders them to go forth “in becoming apparel, and adorn themselves with shamefacedness and sobriety, subject to their own husbands.”  –Saint Clement of Alexandria, Christian theologian (c150-215): The Instructor
  • In pain shall you bring forth children, woman, and you shall turn to your husband and he shall rule over you. And do you not know that you are Eve? God’s sentence hangs still over all your sex and His punishment weighs down upon you. You are the devil’s gateway; you are she who first violated the forbidden tree and broke the law of God. It was you who coaxed your way around him whom the devil had not the force to attack. With what ease you shattered that image of God: Man! Because of the death you merited, even the Son of God had to die… Woman, you are the gate to hell. Tertullian, “the father of Latin Christianity” (c160-225): On the Apparel of Women, chapter 1
  • For it is improper for a woman to speak in an assembly, no matter what she says,
    even if she says admirable things, or even saintly things, that is of little
    consequence, since they come from the mouth of a woman. Origen (d. 258): Fragments on First Corinthians, 74
  • Woman does not possess the image of God in herself but only when taken together
    with the male who is her head, so that the whole substance is one image. But
    when she is assigned the role as helpmate, a function that pertains to her
    alone, then she is not the image of God. But as far as the man is concerned, he
    is by himself alone the image of God just as fully and completely as when he and
    the woman are joined together into one. –Saint Augustine, Bishop of Hippo Regius (354-430)
  • What is the difference whether it is in a wife or a mother, it is still Eve the temptress that we must beware of in any woman… I fail to see what use woman can be to man, if one excludes the function of bearing children. –Saint Augustine, Bishop of Hippo Regius (354 – 430): De genesi ad litteram, 9, 5-9
  • Woman is a misbegotten man and has a faulty and defective nature in comparison to his. Therefore she is unsure in herself. What she cannot get, she seeks to obtain through lying and diabolical deceptions. And so, to put it briefly, one must be on one’s guard with every woman, as if she were a poisonous snake and the horned devil. … Thus in evil and perverse doings woman is cleverer, that is, slyer, than man. Her feelings drive woman toward every evil, just as reason impels man toward all good. –Saint Albertus Magnus, Dominican theologian, 13th century: Quaestiones super de animalibus XV q. 11

  • As regards the individual nature, woman is defective and misbegotten, for the active force in the male seed tends to the production of a perfect likeness in the masculine sex; while the production of woman comes from a defect in the active force or from some material indisposition, or even from some external influence. –Thomas Aquinas, Doctor of the Church, 13th century: Summa Theologica I q. 92 a. 1
If the vagina is the gateway to Hell why is Phonie giving so much thought to it?

I may be wrong?

Maybe Phonsie is a medic who specializes in gynecology?

Or maybe he was a midwife before he became a priest?

Or maybe he was once chaplain to a Sexually Transmitted Disease clinic?


AND - why is Phonsie, as a bishop, talking to young women about their sex lives and their front hotties?

This latest intervention by Phonsie sends his reputation further down the TUBES!

Who does Phonsie  think he is that he can dictate to Irish men and women in 2017 what they can and cannot do with their bodies?



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99 comments:

  1. Xxxxx Xxxxx of Maynooth will down the roman catholic church.

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  2. How much of Waterford & Lismore Diocesian funds does he devote to priests being chaste? (That's actually a genuine question despite its appearances)

    CR.

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    1. And let him explain why he has a paedophile priest whom the diocese never reported to the Gardai living in his grounds.

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  3. Pat, the difference between you and Bishop Cullinane is that he has a moral compass, values and principles....you go with the prevailing winds...anything goes....

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    1. Phonsie's moral compass was made in Trent and stopped working in 1950.

      Answer him better to put his efforts into looking after the chastity of Maynooth and the Irish clergy.

      Chastity begins at home!

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    2. But Bishop Cullinan is NOT qualified to lecture people on diseases of the female reproductive system. He would do well to remember that. We're totally disgusted to read the above.

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  4. The awful thing is that lots of people listen to these red hatted men and believe every word that comes out of their mouths
    I do hope that no young girl gets cervical cancer because her mother advised her ( because she listened to this weird man)to not bother with the the injection

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  5. What was yesterday's blog all about? Were you just blowing hot air, fishing for information, or is there actually something substantial?

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    1. Yesterday's blog was about a complaint that has has been lodged with the CDF and the two archbishops Martin with regard to sexual and administration matters in Maynooth.

      The complainant has not had his complaint answered and is threatening to give the evidence he has to RTE Prime Time.

      He has named two names to me.

      I would like him to furnish me with a copy of his complaint and his letters to Rome and to the Martins.

      If he does I will publish.

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    2. Must be a shocker... I can hardly wait!

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  6. Pat did you not ask the guarda to investigate that bishop and his lodger ?

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    1. Yes. I did inform the Garda. Apparently the child and her parents received a settlement from Waterford diocese and did not want to pursue a prosecution?

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  7. Is that the man who refused you holy communion?
    Does his laity just sit back and take all this sh** that pours from his mouth.
    Apart from those educated medics, are the ordinary folk letting him off with this.
    pat, what do these bishops do theses bishops do all day long ?

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    1. That's the man.

      Yes many of them do sit back and take the s.......

      They do Confirmations, have meetings and think and say stupid things - like Doran in Sligo who once said that being gay is like having Downs Syndrome!!!

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    2. Oh my goodness I had forgotten about Dolan
      Pat we need a book with all their sayings
      You could call it
      The sayings of our modern bishops
      To include Sean et al

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    3. As a female teacher may I say that I am appalled that this bishop feels it is acceptable that he pronounces(to young people!) on matters that are far outside his area of expertise. The wrong and narrow view that diseases of the female reproductive system are mainly caused by promiscuity is absolutely ludicrous! It is a much more complex issue than that and I would strongly suggest that the Bishop adheres to topics on which he has at least some knowledge and authority. I am shocked to read this today.

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  8. I don't think that the parents could actually stop a Garda investigation.
    I would want to know if that man was tagged....who is supervising him ?

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    1. The Garda cannot prosecute without a victim making a complaint.

      I doubt if he is tagged.

      I imagine a Waterford priest is playing the role of supervisor Nd reports to Phonsie.

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    2. Is he not obliged to report it under the new act that came out two years ago... If you have info to say he has info report him and Fr Paedo....

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  9. Bet phonsie would know all about smear tests....what a plonker

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    1. He is a member of the RC cult Opus Die.

      He now thinks he in an expert on gynacology and human sexuality :-(

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  10. Lol he's wondering why boys aren't given the vaccine against cervical cancer! Can't think why myself...

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    1. But if they bring out a vaccine for prostate cancer he'll be against that too.

      Traditionally Irish bishops think they are in charge of all our "front botties.

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  11. LETTERS PAGE IRISH TIMES - FRIDAY 29.9.2017

    Bishop’s views on HPV vaccine
    The Irish Times29 Sep 2017
    Sir, – Given the recent comments surrounding the unsubstantiated risks associated with the HPV vaccine Gardasil, it is worth considering how the process of national vaccination programmes has transformed the health, wellbeing and life expectancy of the population.
    In 1950 in Ireland, 50,000 people were diagnosed with measles; in 2015, there were a total of 40 cases reported. While there were 500 reported cases each of polio and diphtheria in 1950, there were zero cases in 2015.
    In more recent decades the introduction of vaccines targeting meningococcal meningitis has saved many lives and the incidence of this disease has been greatly reduced.
    For the best example of the transformative nature of vaccination programmes, consider smallpox. Between 1900 and its eventual eradication in 1978, smallpox is estimated to have killed 300 million people worldwide. Now, due to successful global vaccination programmes, we no longer live overshadowed by the constant fear of death or disfigurement from smallpox.
    Full uptake of the HPV vaccine will ensure that the approximately 80 per cent of cervical cancer cases caused by infection with HPV are similarly consigned to being a distant historical memory.
    The protective role of HPV vaccination is also being considered for other cancers, such as head and neck cancers, where the HPV virus is a known risk factor.
    By vaccinating, parents can now significantly reduce the likelihood of their daughters being faced with this terrifying diagnosis, of then having to undergo traumatic and debilitating treatment regimes, with an uncertain outcome.
    Given the lack of scientific basis for the claims of groups such as Regret that the vaccine increases the risk of chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS), given that fact that the incidence of CFS in the teenage cohort remains comparable to that recorded prior to the vaccine being introduced, this is clearly not a numbers game to gamble your daughter’s life on. – Yours, etc,
    Dr ELIZABETH BRINT, Executive Committee, The Irish Society for Immunology, University College Cork.

    Sir, – It appears to be timely to remind Dr Alphonsus Cullinan, the Catholic bishop of Waterford and Lismore, that his doctorate is in moral theology – and not medicine. – Yours, etc, ANTHONY O’LEARY, Portmarnock,
    Co Dublin.

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  12. IT TWO

    Sir, – Directly below your article “Catholic bishop claims cervical cancer vaccine ‘only 70% safe’” that appeared on your website on September 28th, you call on readers to subscribe to your service using the tagline “Facts have no agenda. Real news has value”.
    Do the alternative facts quoted in the article about vaccines really have no agenda?
    When you use a headline that makes a claim about medical efficacy by someone so woefully unqualified to comment on medical matters, do you expect us to call it real news?
    Or do we get to call it what it really is? Fake news based on fake facts from an unqualified and biased source. – Yours, etc, DARRAGH MOONEY, Ranelagh,
    Dublin 6.

    Sir, – The article on the bishop’s views on the cervical cancer vaccine should not have appeared in the health section of your website. It belongs in the religious affairs section.
    Or, better still, in the bin. – Yours, etc, MICHELLE van KAMPEN, Moycullen,
    Co Galway.

    Sir, – Sometimes I get all wistful about the Catholic Church, wondering have we thrown out the baby with the bath water in its steep decline.
    And then something or someone comes along and jolts me back to my senses.
    For the most recent example, I must thank Bishop Cullinan.
    The most despicable thing about his criticism of the cervical cancer vaccine is that he plants that old chestnut, loved by cigarette companies and climate change deniers, that there’s some “conflicting opinions”.
    Thank you, Bishop Cullinan, for reminding me of why the church had it coming. – Yours, etc,
    DAVID CLARKE, Edinburgh.

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    1. How can anyone be taken seriously with a name like Phonsie?

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  13. It is very strange that this topic came up several times on the Joe Duffy show and many mothers calling in to have this injection looked into. Not alone Joe Duffy show but local radio's picked up on it also. Many mothers talked about how there daughters were affected by it. I don't see what the fuss is all about in a bishop speaking out maybe one day we will come back to this blog and say yes he was right. There was a out cry the time the swine flu injection was giving too much merecry in it giving cancer are we not reaping what we sow..

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    1. The fuss is because he DOES NOT HAVE EITHER THE AUTHORITY OR MEDICAL EXPERTISE. Neither is he the mother or teacher or doctor of a teenage girl.

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  14. Maybe the Irish government should make Phonsie the Master of the new National Maternity Hospital?

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  15. Phonsie was interviewed on the Tonight Show on TV3 last night . Matt Cooper wiped the floor with him. Can be seen on the 3Player.

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    1. Thats not available in N. Ireland or UK.

      Any way you can record it for us - or even publish on Youtube ???

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    2. The Phonsie clip can be found on TV3 on Twitter or on Matt Cooper on Twitter

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    3. *******

      HAVE ADDED - ABOVE - VIDEO OF PHONSIE BEING CHALLENGED LAST NIGHT ON TV3

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    4. You can can watch it in the UK online on TV3.ie '3player' at following link.

      https://www.tv3.ie/3player/show/1294/0/0/

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  16. Jazs what a gobshite of an attitude. If a vaccine can improve health of course administer it. Scaring people into not having sex by not giving them a vaccine is daft and inhuman. Middle Ages based church control is not realistic. Only right judgement and choices will help people to gain a healthy and appropriate sexual lifestyle.

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  17. In The Irish Times? I always thought that paper was the voice of a sober Anglicanism.

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    1. Used to be.

      Now it is basically a newspaper that favours the various establishments - including the Catholic Church establishment.

      Diarmuid Martin is a blue eyed boy.

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    2. Was Martin's brother not an editor at the Irish Times? I thought that's why they never published negative things about him...

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  18. I think the bishop raises some good points.

    Firstly, there are concerns about the safety of this vaccine. Before we give this vaccine to our children nationwide, these legitimate concerns should be addressed. Also we need to stop the bullying campaign being waged on parents who are concerned.

    Secondly, the human papillomavirus is a sexually transmitted infection; STI's are spread widely, easily, and rapidly because of our sexually promiscuous culture, therefore, we should teach our children not to engage in the promiscuous sexual activity which passes this infection on.

    We need to educate our young men and women that sexual promiscuity isn't all that the world makes it out to be. We need to teach them that sexual intercourse is the most beautiful act of loving intimacy that we can express and experience, it's more than a cheap shag at the weekend. If we as a society taught that, then the rates of STI's would drop dramatically and we wouldn't need to roll out national vaccination programmes.

    I know dye-in-the-wool hippies of the sexual revolution era won't want to hear such a prudish solution, but the evidence speaks for itself. Our no-strings-attached sexually promiscuous hook-up culture is dangerous, physically, emotionally, and societally.

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    1. But NOT the only cause of cervical disease if you don't mind, please. Don't try to teach us our profession.

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    2. I do not, for one wild moment, believe that Bishop Cullinan's concern here is driven by the potential side-effects of this drug, but by the traditional desire of Catholic bishops, stretching right back to the mysoginistic and paranoid delusions of the Church Fathers, to control what goes on in the bedroom, especially where females are concerned.

      Catholic bishops historically have never had a human-centred morality, but one informed by abstract principle; in other words, by ethical legalism.

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    3. You've shown your true concern here: it isn't the risks associated with the drug, but your unsubstantiated (and, frankly, fantastical) belief that it will somehow increase human sexual promiscuity.

      How on Earth will it do this? Have you some unpublished clinical data showing correlation of Gardasil to sexual behaviour?

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    4. Magna I fear you may be letting your prejudices blind you.

      There are legitimate concerns regarding the vaccine and these need to be addressed. Parents shouldn't be bullied for raising them, they should be given ALL the information available and should be allowed to make a free, informed choice as to what they decide is best for their children. They shouldn't be ridiculed or bullied for being concerned about the potential side-effects.

      Also, I never claimed that there is a link between the vaccine and promiscuity, although vaccination may cause a false sense of security. I said that promiscuity increases risk of infection.

      It's neither misogynistic nor paranoid to state that our sexually promiscuous culture is dangerous to body, mind, and soul. It's factual. The throwaway culture that prevails today destroys lives and souls. We need to teach our children that they are worth more than cheap, disposable, sexual pleasure. Simply vaccinating them against STI's isn't enough.

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    5. Points well made Magna.You have a broad depth of knowledge with an analytical mind, and it's good to see it lucidly expressed.
      MMM

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    6. 18:17, my 'prejudices' are not blinding me (hopefully) any more than yours are blinding you.

      I agree that vaccination against STIs isn't enough, but then, Gardasil is not such a drug: its pharmacological purpose is not to prevent contracting the most dangerous types of HPV (as far as cancer risk is concerned), but to prevent these triggering, in later life, such cancers as cervical and anal. Even with intake of the drug, HPV can still be contracted,

      The drug has no effect whatever on sexual libido.

      Why would anyone oppose young people's contracting such cancers when a drug (whose potential side-effects appear to have been socially hyped by certain people), administered in two or more doses, could prevent them?

      You suggest that your concern about the drug is purely clinical and not moral; and yet, your post at 16:43 is mostly concerned with moral considerations (three paragraphs out of five).

      Bishop Cullinan's concern appears to be similarly motivated. But, more worringly, it is depressingly naive in its call to spend the money promoting Gardasil on encouraging young people to be chaste. Good luck with that in these times.

      Young people are not all going to be chaste; we can lament this, but it is almost certainly true. Should we, then, not offer them all the protection at our disposal to safeguard their physical health?

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  19. Pat could you do a piece on the Opus Dei cult, especially as it is in Ireland?

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    1. Or better still, ask a long-term member of Opus Dei to write about the organisation. Otherwise we may end up with the usual mish-mash of hearsay and uninformed clichés..

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    2. 17.18 Didn't know ye had them

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    3. I don't care who tells us about Opus Dei so long as we're not palmed off with the Google version or worse still the Wikipedia mish-mash of prejudices and all sorts. Any of us could do that...

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  20. It astonishes me that a Roman Catholic bishop would put abstract moral principle above the physical and mental welfare of fellow human beings.

    This drug will not make people, including young ones, more or less promiscuous (as Bishop Cullinan seems to believe), but it can reduce the risk of developing forms of cancer that are not only personally debilitating, but socially embarrassing.

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    1. MC could it be that the old Gnostic thinking of body bad soul good is filtering through our we Bishops brain cells without him applying a little sprinkling of reason.Poor wee bish bish sad

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  21. Forgive my ignorance, why is cervical cancer embarrassing? I don't know anything about the subject.

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    1. Who said cervical cancer was socially embarrassing?

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    2. See the last line of your previous comment. As I said I know nothing of this subject.

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    3. So called "social embarrassment" can cost lives if a person delays going for a medical checkout when worrying signs and symptoms appear. The bishop's ill-founded comments can encourage this misplaced embarrassment and undue the good work of teachers and medical professionals. He is so ignorant of the subject he gives his reckless opinions on...

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    4. I know what the last line states, 19:52, and it makes no mention of cervical cancer. It states, simply, 'forms of cancer'. Nothing more.

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  22. MINISTER CALLY PHONSIE "IGNORANT

    Simon Harris said 'Some of this week's attempts by the bishop to purport to be a medical expert have been extraordinarily disappointing'

    Minister for Health Simon Harris has described as "ignorant" and "pathetic" suggestions by the Catholic bishop of Waterford and Lismore that vaccinating 12-year-old girls against the human papilloma virus (HPV) could lead to promiscuity.

    Mr Harris said the suggestion shows how ignorant Bishop Alphonsus Cullinane is on the issue.

    Yesterday on WLR local radio, Bishop Cullinane referred to the HPV vaccine saying: "It's not only a medical issue, it's a lifestyle issue".

    Adding that it affects the lifestyle of young people in the country, he said: "We have to do better than to give our boys condoms and our girls injections at the age of 12."

    Speaking to reporters in Dublin today, Mr Harris said: "Some of this week's attempts by the bishop to purport to be a medical expert have been extraordinarily disappointing, extraordinarily dangerous and damaging to a very important public health campaign."

    Asked to respond to Bishop Cullinane's statement that Japan had stopped administering Gardasil, the proprietary name of the HPV vaccine used in the Republic of Ireland, and that Denmark had replaced it, Mr Harris said he did not share the doubts the governments of those countries have about the drug.

    "No, not at all," he said.

    "This is a very clear issue. The World Health Organization, the European Commission and the EU's Medicines Agency have all looked at this drug.

    "We've a drug in the country that saves girls' lives from cancer. Three hundred women in the country this year will get cervical cancer.

    "Sadly nearly one hundred of them will die. I've nothing but respect for an individual who has a view but what I'd say to people is: 'Keep your view to what your area of expertise is'."

    The minister continued: "Bishops I'm sure have many good qualities. Medical doctors they are not.

    "And if anybody wants medical advice, talk to a medical expert. That's where I get my medical advice from, not from the church."

    Asked to respond to Bishop Cullinane's comment that administering the vaccine to pre-teen girls effectively promotes promiscuity, Mr Harris responded: "That only shows how ignorant he is on this matter. That's quite a pathetic thing to say.

    "And don't believe me. Talk to medical experts about it. The reason you vaccinate children at that age at school is to prevent them from picking up cervical cancer at a later stage in life. It is the most optimum time to vaccinate our children. And that's not my view. It's the view of all the medical experts.

    "So please could we have our bishops stick to what our bishops are good at doing and allow our doctors drive the public health agenda.

    "And I'm not going to tolerate a situation whereby we try to have people who are not medical experts - whatever field they're in - that purport themselves to be experts.

    "Too many, too many unnecessary deaths are happening in this country because of cervical cancer," Mr Harris said.

    He appealed to everybody to accept that the best people to advise on vaccination are qualified doctors, pharmacists and scientists.

    "And their medical evidence is absolutely crystal clear in relation to this."

    He urged members of the public to read information on the hpv.ie website and to talk to their doctors and pharmacist and to then make an informed decision.

    "That's where you'll get the best information," he concluded.

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  23. Pat. Could I ask bishop Phonsie if he advise me what to do I'm my painful predicament. I have a big red pimple on the side of my arse and although I've rubbed it with an orange lily it won't go away. I do hope that the good bishop, an expert on matters medical can help me.

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    1. He will probably recommend putting toothpaste on it :-)

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  24. Magna it astonishes me not one bit!
    Having now listened to the clip of his "thinking" (sic) about the matter it's clear he's simply just another Irish RC bishop so out of touch, unwilling to listen, and fixed immovably in his own beliefs (from his simplistic Thomistic moral and philosophical seminary teachings of 50+ years ago).
    There's nothing surprising in this, for most of those men who "succeeded" (!) in ascending the slippery ladder to the episcopacy appear to have come from similar backgrounds, and, cossetted by the naive and gullible laity came to believe that their couple of years of Thomistic philosophy and subsequent four years of "theology" equipped them as "experts" in all matters, .......which can of course only be viewed and understood through the prism of the teachings of "Holy Mother Church".
    Frankly I now laugh at the utter ridiculousness of the whole RC facade and edifice. I do however feel a certain amount of sadness, both that many of the beneficial effects of communities cooperating and sharing beliefs (deist or otherwise) are so distorted by the RC church's malign influence, and that so many kind, compassionate and well meaning clerics find themselves trapped within its grasp.
    MMM

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    1. I agree with your opinion of bishops meddling in medical matters, MMM. This, the latest instance, has more than faint echoes of the harmful interference by Roman Catholic (and, to be fair, other) bishops in the healthcare provision of the Mother and Child Scheme, introduced in 1950 in the Republic of Ireland by Dr Nöel Browne, Minister of Health. That interference cost many lives in succeeding years.

      Are Irish Roman Catholic bishops like Cullinan so arrogant that they refuse to learn the lesson of history...THEIR history. What was it that Spanish philosopher said of those who refuse to learn such lessons? That they are destined to repeat them.

      I hope the Irish people stop this man's stupidity and arrogance from needlessly destroying more human life.

      And didn't Pope Francis, in recent years, criticise clerics like Cullinan who set moral principle above human welfare?

      Francis needs to raise his voice, since Bishop Cullinan isn't listening.

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  25. Jazs I went on the then North West Radio over 20 years ago about an alleged condom machine in a West of Ireland pub that was never refilled and the punters lost money n were afraid to ask for it back. The topic was linked to attitudes to sexuality in secondary schools Many of them kids are mums and dad's now. I pointed out it came down to education and choice and not puritanical control. I didn't half get a "bollokin" metaphorically speaking from th'auld p p 😀

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  26. For 19.14
    I'm afraid that even an expert in madical matters like Phonsie would be no good for your malady. The only person I know who had any success in eradicating a pimple on the bum was none other than King Billy

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    1. As a 4 foot dwarf he is reputed to have suffered chronic pimples :-)

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  27. This reminds of a time a Dominican opined that sperm could only be morally donated by a man undergoing an operation, not in the usual way.

    Such nonsense makes me think of changing my Irish Catholick name. Alas, Alack! It's always so revolting being identified with such clergy.

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    1. Is that the same Dominican (Rev Grotty?) who gave a speech in 2015 saying that people with same-sex attraction were disordered?

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    2. Grotty lol, I thing you mean crotty. He is currently the student master of the Irish province, that is he is in charge of formation. He is rather fanatical! He once stated to his charges that pastoral work is a waste of time! He makes the lives of his students miserable and if he doesn't like a person he does his best to break them. He has a gay brother whom he does not acknowledge or speak with.

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    3. Crotty, currently rumoured to be the next bishop of Cork and Ross. I know many dominicans are hoping he becomes bishop; because then he would no longer be a member of the order!

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    4. @12.31
      It seems that Keith O'Brien's utterances which were hostile to gays succeeded in diverting attention from himself ...until the truth emerged.

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    5. It would be good if some of his current and recent charges posted here to provide an update on his actions and musings.

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  28. The ignorance and arrogance of that fonsie is astounding .
    Imagine him broadcasting alongside knowledgeable people

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  29. 21.22
    What year was that
    Before the invention of syringes or sexual inter course
    Ha ha ha

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    1. LOL! The late seventies or early eighties of thr twentieth century. Actually this particular OP was a very kind fellow but was chubbier than Friar Tuck. One of his colleagues told me that the three or four doughnuts loaded with butter he consumed daily probably contributed to his early demise. Sadly enough the friar who told me that died not too long after, and he watched his diet. I wonder if it's a Dominican thing. All that Summa, perhaps.

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    2. I think it was Charlestown in Co Mayo that had the machine but I'm open to correction

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  30. Well Pat it is true what they say "revenge is a dish best served cold." You have gone to town on the Bishop who had the gall to refuse communion to an excommunicated priest.
    Bishop Cullinan has every right to enunciate Catholic moral principles, despite what excommunicated priests say. Simon Harris demonstrated incredible ignorance in his attack on the Bishop. They really want the church to be silent on issues of sexuality and "health" it's a prelude to the attempt to silence the Catholic voice on the 8th. WE WILL NOT BE SILENCED!

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    1. What Catholic moral principles?

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    2. Bishop Cullinan isn't 'the church'. Nor did he 'enunciate' any moral principle remotely relevant to a drug that, potentially, could save the lives of countless women.

      What 'incredible ignorance' did Simon Harris demonstrate?

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    3. At risk of being 'ad hominem, I simply say anon's comment @ 22:19 is laughable and ridiculous. But of course he/she is fully entitled to persist in such antidiluvian views.
      MMM

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    4. Fr Brendan Hoban's letter to the papers gets it right. When Fonsie was appointed anyone could have predicted it would only be a matter of time before a scenario like this one erupted.

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    5. And isn't it great to see a cleric like Fr Hoban publically criticising the bishops misguided ignorant stance. I hope Fr Hoban's own bishop supports him, ideally, publically. Well done Fr Hoban.
      MMM

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  31. 21.22 Whatever ya do don't take pleasure in it or yll roasht so ya will👿

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  32. Sean, I knew a traddy Catholic man in London who printed off "Out of order" stickers which he stuck on any condom machines he spotted in pubs in London.

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    1. 23:29, I hope this fanatic was caught and prosecuted.

      I wonder how many kids were conceived, and aborted, through his selfish stupidity.

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    2. Is it any wonder they get shot of traddy seminarians.

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  33. Is it true that ex Fr coyle is now living with his partner. ????

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    1. Probably living with another ex-pulpit poove.

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  34. Believe me, I would never identify YOU with any clergy. Fear not.

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  35. Is his name Alphonsus (as he was listed on TV3), or Phonsie as Irish Times letter writers refer to him. Does he sign letters +Phonsie?

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  36. I shall ring his office Monday and book an appointment for his STD clinic. He may be able to advise me too.

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    1. I imagine priests and seminarians have been trading STDs for years.

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    2. Many priests died with STDs... Sacred Theology Doctorates buy they tend to dabble in Divine Doctorates nowadays.

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  37. 22.19
    Shout louder, some of us are getting more deaf by the day...or maybe it's because we are growing up and out of sync with Roman lies

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  38. Your pic of Fonsie makes it look as if he has a cleft pallet. Has it been photoshopped?

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    1. Fonsie looks a wee bit like John Charles McQuaid in that pic.

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  39. I have just read yesterday’s blog on the papacy. It is a pure rehash of old antiCatholic arguments against the Church since the days of Luther et al. A good Catholic apologist would demolish these arguments against the primacy of Peter and the Popes without a problem and have been doing so for centuries.

    The incurably contemptuous MC might be feted on here for his “knowledge”, for “in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king”!

    Every scriptural text that does not coincide with this “genius”, MC’s, esoteric notions about religion and the Church are attemptedly written off, by him, as being “invented” by the early Church. What utter rubbish from this dilettante masquerading on here as a polymath!

    You cannot rewrite the sacred texts to suit your own views. You cannot rewrite history. This blog on the papacy is a rant worthy of a Protestant fundamentalist extremist by a man who wants to keep the trappings and trimmings of Catholicism but rejects its nature andsubstance because of his own pride and hubris!

    From the same spirit of hubris and pride emanates this fake news story about Opus Dei.

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