Tuesday, 30 January 2018


 In Germany, Catholic Church grapples with blessings for gay marriage
Jan 24, 2018



Germany's unexpected legalization of gay marriage last year has created a pastoral dilemma for the country's Roman Catholic bishops, who campaigned against the "marriage for all" bill and now have to maintain that doctrinal stand while also showing respect for gay and lesbian parishioners.
Roman Catholicism firmly opposes same-sex marriage as unnatural, so even Germany's creative theologians have little leeway there. But the theology of giving a blessing to a gay couple is less clear, and two bishops have now spoken out in favor of considering some form of benediction as a way to adjust to the changing times. 
The country's Protestant churches already offer gay couples at least a blessing ceremony, if not a full church marriage, and even the main association for lay Catholics supports allowing blessings. While Pope Francis has ruled out approving gay marriage, he raised expectations of some kind of reform early in his papacy by famously asking "who am I to judge?" about gay people.
“Even though ‘marriage for all’ clearly differs from the church’s understanding of marriage, it is now a political reality,” Bishop Franz-Josef Bode of Osnabrück, the deputy chairman of the German Bishops Conference, said earlier this month.

“We have to ask ourselves how we should deal with people who tie this knot. Some of them are active in the church. So how are we going to accompany them with pastoral care and in the liturgy?” Bode asked. “We could think about giving them a blessing.”
After Bode spoke in an interview with his local newspaper, it emerged that another prelate, retiring Auxiliary Bishop Dieter Geerlings of Münster, had essentially said the same a month earlier in a lesser-known provincial daily.
“I’m not for ‘marriage for all,’ but if two homosexuals enter a same-sex relationship, if they want to take responsibility for each other, then I can bless this mutual responsibility,” he said.
“This is valuable and praiseworthy, even if this bond is not in complete agreement with the church.”
Roman Catholicism, though it opposes same-sex marriage, preaches respect for individual gays and lesbians. Both bishops made clear that a church blessing would not amount to a church wedding, because marriage in Catholic teaching is a sacrament reserved for a man and a woman.
This suggestion comes after the bishops protested last June when Chancellor Angela Merkel did an abrupt U-turn that allowed nuptial equality to become legal starting on Oct. 1.
Cardinal Reinhard Marx of Munich, who as chairman of the bishops conference is the country’s top Catholic leader, reiterated his opposition to same-sex marriage just before Christmas and has not publicly reacted to his deputy’s comments.
But the issue is not likely to disappear and may come up again soon — when the bishops hold their next half-yearly meeting in the spring.
Legalization of same-sex marriage came as a surprise because Merkel, the daughter of a Lutheran pastor, had long opposed it. But she allowed a parliamentary vote on it under strong pressure from her Social Democratic coalition partners and the opposition parties.
In the end, Merkel cast her vote against legalization, but it passed with a comfortable majority.
Right after the law was passed, Marx expressed hope that the traditionally Catholic state of Bavaria, where Munich is the capital, would challenge it in Germany’s constitutional court.
The staunchly conservative state government, normally keen to line up with the Catholic Church when it serves its political purposes, commissioned a long legal study but does not seem ready to file a suit.
By contrast, all but one of the 20 regional churches of the Evangelical Church in Germany (EKD), the country’s main Protestant federation, began offering blessings for same-sex couples even before the national law changed.
Five of them allow full church wedding ceremonies and 14 offer blessings, some during a public service and a few only in private.
The church in Württemberg, the region around Stuttgart, is the only holdout. Influenced by a conservative Pietist tradition in Lutheranism, its synod blocked a resolution to allow blessings last November. Reform supporters vowed to keep up their campaign.
About 60 percent of Germans are Christians, with slightly more Catholics than Protestants. Ecumenical cooperation and intermarriage are common, so developments in one denomination are often debated in the other, even if the same change is not made.
The Protestant churches changed their policies in recent years as public acceptance of homosexuality evolved. Germany decided in 2001 to legalize same-sex civil unions, known as “Lebenspartnerschaften” (life partnerships), but pressure for marriage equality grew slowly.
Commonly called “homo marriage” because it was not available to heterosexual couples, the law on same-sex civil unions expired in October when gay marriage was made legal.
The Central Committee of German Catholics, an influential association of lay church activists, came out in favor of blessing same-sex couples in 2015. “We must build bridges between church doctrine on marriage and the family and the world that believers are living in today,” it said.
Although most church officials still reject it, the idea of blessing gay couples has been under discussion long before Bode’s interview in the Neue Osnabrücker Zeitung made national headlines.
“I know the issue is out there, not only in Osnabrück or in the (episcopal conference’s) Pastoral Commission, but across Germany,” said Holger Dörnemann, the new delegate for relations with gay people in the Cologne Archdiocese, the largest and richest in the country.
“The discussions in recent years have shown this. (Bode) has only expressed what is actually under discussion in every diocese,” Dörnemann told the archdiocese’s radio station.
We Are Church, a leading lay reform movement, urged the faithful to join in these discussions. “The people in the pews must hold constructive conversations with church leaders in which the bishops are the ones who have something to learn,” it said.
The blessing issue made headlines in September when a bishop barred a priest in Emmerich, near the Dutch border, from giving one in church to the city’s gay mayor and his partner.
“Dog, cats, and motorcycles get blessings, but we’re not worth one?” Mayor Peter Hinze complained. “It can hardly be made clearer that we’re second-class people.”
Several Catholic theologians have chimed in to say blessings are a sign of God’s mercy and should not be refused to believers who do not live up to church teachings completely.
“I think it’s a problem theologically if we make blessings dependent on a moral assessment of human behavior,” Benedikt Kranemann, a professor of liturgy at the University of Erfurt, told the church’s official news site, katholisch.de.


“When a car is blessed, the driver is also blessed, regardless of how he drives,” he said. “The church was authorized to pass on God’s blessing as a promise. The person blessed is supposed to live according to what he was promised.”

PAT SAYS:

It is very good that the German Catholic Church and the German bishops are debating the question of blessing gay unions.

I have been blessing gay unions for over 30 years.

And in recent years since the civil laws changed, I have been celebrating gay marriages.

I use the same ceremony/Mass for gay marriages as I do for heterosexual marriages. 

I see no reason why a gay marriage is not as much a SACRAMENT as a heterosexual marriage.


125 comments:

  1. Gay marriage can never be a sacrament. Gay sex produces infections and death. Heterosexual sex produces another human being. Judge the cause by its effect and you see why gay activity is unnatural.

    There is nothing wrong with people with homosexual inclinations. But gay sexual activity is highly dangerous and it is most uncharitable not to tell people the truth with gentleness yet firmness.

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    1. Last I read was that gay sex produces an exchange of bodily fluids, just like heteros in full thrust.

      Maybe your manual is different from mine.

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    2. 01.53 have you ever had sex in your life ? You seem to know absolutely nothing about it .unprotected Heterosexual sex spreads infection also . The gum clinics are full every week with straight men and women. Also isn't Africa full of hiv babies ? You can't blame them dirty gays for that !

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    3. 1.53 Marriage is more than sex

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    4. Yuch, Magna..!

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    5. Bigoted fake compassion. The women of the past loved their husband's and had sex even though the man had syphilis and we praise their sacrifice. Mothers who have babies when birth will kill them are praised. The argument that gay sex is unhealthy and therefore wrong not only fails but supports its sacredness

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    6. 01:53
      Whay a blinkered, negative, unhelpful, disgusting, cynical, biased and ignorant display of knowledge of human sexuality.

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  2. Apparently, there is a compulsory income tax of 8% Germans have to pay to religious organisations, so I suppose the Conference has to be careful what is says because hundreds of thousands of Germans are already opting out of this tax every year.

    There would be civil unrest if the government tried to impose such a tax in the UK for the pulpit pooves.

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    1. Are you suggesting these good German bishops are interested more in mammon than God?

      How dare you?😆

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    2. There are church taxes in other countries too e.g. Denmark. The Catholic church in Germany is very rich and it's the second biggest employer after the German state itself.

      Shamefully, the German bishops deny the sacraments to those who opt out of the church tax. Is that akin to simony?

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    3. 06.02 when have you last seen a pulpit in use in a Roman Catholic church? Probably 45-50 years ago. Where have you been since? Not in a Catholic church at least.

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  3. +Pat likes to vary content, but I hope we don't have to endure tedious posts for long before a more interesting action or event by a priest or seminarian and regarded as morally or legally wrong is reported on here again.

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    1. Yes, I agree about tedious posts. So please try to make yours more interesting.😆

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    2. Miscellaneous posts are fine, but I expect, once the database is up and running, +Pat will issue a monthly analysis of strange goings-on detailing the number of goings-on reported and, for example, where and when the strange going-on took place, and what type of strange going-on it was ranging from seminarian bromances to full priestly buggery.

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    3. Seminarian friendships, bromances if you like, are very important and they can be just pure friendships. Male mental health needs attention and I think it's great that men are investing more in friendship and being articulate about their emotions. My late father RIP, and he was a very good man, couldn't express emotions openly but I've made a real effort to be different with my children.

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  4. It is not a sacrament. Blessing two lads riding each other is a bit of a bad misinterpretation.

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    1. Don't be silly! Two lads can't 'ride each other'. (At least, not at the same time.😆)

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    2. Marriage, when contracted under the auspices of the Church IS a Sacrament(-one of the seven Sacraments)and also legal contract.
      When contracted in some other venues and circumstances, it is according to the law of the land, a legally binding contract but of course, not a Christian Sacrament.

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    3. The boyos in Rome only made it a sacrament in the 12th century.

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    4. Nevertheless it is a Sacrament now. That is what matters.

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    5. It IS a Sacrament from where we are standing..

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    6. Marriage was always a sacrament (a sign of the sacred) where there was mutual love.

      Are you suggesting there was nothing sacramental about the marriage of Joseph and Mary.

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    7. Human life is intrinsically sacramental - all of it.

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  5. Marriage Gay Civil Partnership are all words but people are people who need to be treated with respect and don't fit into boxes. Jesus showed life is a journey not a set of rules and regulations

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  6. I have long advocated the blessing of same-sex unions. This does not mean that I should morally approve everything goes on in such unions, anymore than I should approve the same in heterosexual counterparts.

    No; God and I are at one on this. And there ends the matter.

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  7. If only...! (thinks)

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  8. Marriage for all? It doesn’t seem that long ago I was reading about Angela Merkel’s opposition to any legalization. Perhaps the German parliamentary process is not as long and torturous as the British system usually is.

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  9. Pat, Seems there is much talk among some of my co-dioceseans about strange goings on here in Glasgow. Again!!

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    1. I was very surprised there was no discussion on that terrible Catholic Trust Scotland blog about “Archbishop of Glasgow Philip Tartaglia embroiled in row over alleged bullying of female volunteer”.

      However, I imagine it will be front page news of CTS February newsletter soon.

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    2. CTS February newsletter is out already but no mention of Tartaglia. Plenty references to gay, homosexual, and Sodom and Gomorrah though... as per usual. The editor is sick in the head.

      http://www.catholictruthscotland.com/FEBRUARYnewsletter18.pdf

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  10. The anus is for defaecation. The very idea of 'love' being expressed by inserting a penis there is reprehensible.
    Gay people are those whose gender development became stuck in a vacuum usually because of a weak father figure and a domineering mother. As with other psychological disorders It is entirely cureable with the right therapy.
    To 'bless' such a disorder would be an abomination. One cannot bless a mortal sin.

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    1. Do we have that on the best authority?

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    2. The quality of love between two men may be as pure as the love between men and women.

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    3. 12.16 tel iris Robinson I said hello

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    4. @13.32
      Holy Scripture is a high enough authority.

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    5. Will do! Thanks... nice!

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    6. 13.32 - "Do we have that on the best authority?"

      - What? That the anus is for defecation?.

      Yes. Yes, I think we do. The very best authority indeed.

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    7. 12:16, 'the anus is for defaecation'? Shit! You should write a paper for the Lancet.

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  11. I’m not sure about anyone else reading this blog but I’m sick to death reading posts from both Magna Carta’s. It’s putting me off reading this blog and I know there is little point appealing to the author as he continues to endorse it. There is little surprise many regular contributors have ceased to contribute. Yesterday the entire blog was consumed by these characters - I hope others express their feelings on this.

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    1. I will have a go at blocking the second MC.

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    2. Block both of them! Many of your readers are entirely sick of that original one and it has been good to see the second one give him a run for his money! BLOCK THEM BOTH AND DO US ALL A FAVOUR!

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    3. This blog has been “consumed” for a very long time by that odious Magna Carta. If you are going to block the second MC then block the first one too. His snide, churlish, arrogant and obtuse commentaries have been tiresome for quite some time now. At least the second MC is funny!

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    4. Please block the original MC and save us from his obnoxious and rude posts. More people need to voice their feelings about this horrible person.

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    5. I agree with you about the first MC completely 13.56
      I think he has changed the whole atmosphere and ethos of the blog very much for the WORSE

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    6. S'not fair, so s'not. (😭 sniff)

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  12. Oh Darling, are we going to expect censorship on this blog? Where is the freedom of expression? Gone just because someone holds a different viewpoint.
    Pat protects Magna, the most famous poster in the land.... others are not so lucky

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  13. 13.13 Firstly, I am not your darling ok!! Secondly, Magna is very far from being, “The most famous poster in the land”. What an idiotic statement to make! You almost sound like MC, maybe you are one of his saddo friends as he/she doesn’t seem to have many of those. Isn’t it sad that people are turned off reading this blog because of one person.

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    1. oh who are you calling an idiot?
      I am free to make any contribution I wish, if you don't like what I write them blog off somewhere else.
      I enjoy reading Magna and I am entirely free to have my own decisions.
      Whatever turns you on..... well that is your own opinion.

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    2. 14.24: In answer to your question -"who are you calling an idiot?" YOU is the answer....Get it - IDIOT....

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    3. @16.22 You wouldn't say it to my face.
      Pat, why are you allowing him to say this to me.....
      @16.22 do you call yourself a Christian???

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  14. Pat.. Don't be so unfair!! If you block the second MC, then definitely block the initial cause of all the problems.. ie the original MC.
    I couldn't believe you were even thinking of blocking the second one who brings badly needed lightness and humour. Do the right thing, Pat.. Come on now..!

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    1. I totally agree with you- we needed some lightness and humour- some people are taking themselves far to seriously.
      Lighten up folks- it might never happen-
      You all have a nice day

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  15. Thank you Pat, now I can return to the blog...but I must say that it took you a long time.

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  16. Sorry 14 .21,bog off if you can’t abide by the rules.
    Magna C was using that pseudo name first.
    Get your own, then we can give you a difficult time, just like you have been doing to our Magna
    Close the door on your way out.

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    1. We do not, not not agree with you @ 15.31
      Not one of us in this establishment today....

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    2. The original Magna Carta's name appears in orange, the second Magna Carta's appears in black.

      I don't see an issue - they are distinguishable.

      But I do agree with you that 14.21 - and indeed all people of good will - should close the door on their way out.

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    3. 16:18, in ORANGE! Oh, God! I am colour blind. I thought the letters were RED.

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    4. I keep telling you to get your eyes tested you silly moo

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    5. It’s blue on my screen - not orange. And the other MC is black.

      Maggie Blue and Maggie Black lol

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    6. Wow! That's weird.

      Still, facts are facts: red on my tablet, and whatever on your screens.😆

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    7. It's the beetroot juice out of your sandwich.

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  17. Where is Magna 2?
    His absence is noted!
    Magna1 is feeling lonely without him.....
    Bring back Magna 2 is what I say!

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  18. 14 .24
    Agree with everything you typed....except for the last word
    I will change the last word to BETTER.

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    1. Not better... Definitely much WORSE

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  19. Speak for yourself @15.31.
    You certainly don't speak for us! And by the way, none of us here is the second Magna. We just think he seems a much nicer person by far.

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    1. Thank you kindly!

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    2. He's not, I tell you 1531. He's not.

      Damn him. Damn that man. Damn him t' HELL!😠

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  20. Maybe that recently threatened blog closure should not have been postponed after all, guys? Did he decide prematurely I wonder to not move in...?

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  21. Please block Original MC, he has destroyed a similar blog because most people switched off. I fear this could happen to this blog too, this person is a menace to society. As for those who say they enjoy reading his posts then I think that says a lot about you.

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    1. Yes, it does say a lot about them (or, rather, about their remarkable intelligence😆).

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    2. What blog did he destroy please?

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  22. Pat,
    did you ever publish the names of the Oratory Priests?
    are you protecting them?

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    1. Good point, I also would like to know who these priests are- every other priest in the country seems to get a mention.... maybe Pat you will enlighten us?????
      Is Magna one of your priests? It would be sooooo cool if he was lol

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    2. 16.52: A good question that deserves an honest answer. Why doesn't Pat reveal who they are? Perhaps there are stories to tell, truths hidden and Pat is covering up!! What's new? Tell us Pat and for once tell the whole TRUTH. You're very quick to play "god" with other people's lives. Where do they live? What's their source of income? Their accomodation? Their ministry? Garda Vetting? What is their financial remuneration....etc...Lots of questions to be answered.LET US SEE YOUR INTEGRITY NOW.Pat,you owe us the unvarnished TRUTH....

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    3. 20.34. You are right. Your questions are legitimate. It's time for Pat to be upfront now that we know how many "priests" belong to his group. Since he quickly reveals so much info about others he should now tell the truth. Otherwise he is a sham, a hypocrite, a man with something to hide. Who are these men he's hiding? Are they Garda Vetted - a most relevant issue. Be transparent Pat. Don't avoid the truth. What work are they engaged in?

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  23. is magna really stakeknife??
    we want to know lol

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    1. If everyone can be Spartacus then surely two people can be Maggie Carter? Lol

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  24. Pat, if what has been written here over the past few days is true. There is a priest who left the ministry in a southern diocese. You appear to be aware of the circumstances. It is revealed here over the past few days that a current practicing priest was with him in Rome and seminarians were listening and some reported to a bishop. Is this true? At the time was he a seminarian or ordained. Was he back for further study? You have contacted bishops over seminarians. Do you not contact them over priests? Or seminarians who have become priests?

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  25. So why can’t you speak for yourself?
    Are yous ‘’WE’’ attached at the hip ?
    There is nothing nice or normal about cloning another’s pseudo name...get your own
    14.21 get a grip and grow up, this isn’t a playyard.

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    1. A “playyard” (sic)?

      17:23, you need to lighten up just a tad methinks!

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  26. I would like to add my voice to those calling for the first Magna Carta to be banned - I have felt unable to comment for fear of the insults which would be thrown at me.

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    1. Well post nicely then
      Ah go on don’t be feardy guts
      18.32
      He has never insulted me and I post ever so much.
      Ah go on go on.

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    2. Are you Mrs Doyle who worked for Fr Ted? Have a cup of tea.. Ah go on, go on...!

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  27. Aren’t there several copies of the Magna Carta at various cathedrals in England? I think I saw the copy from Lincoln Cathedral (?) when it was here in the states. So why can’t there be more than one Magna on this blog? Sort of an I am Spartacus experience, eh?

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    1. You, sir or madam, are enviably wise.

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    2. Just with the difference that I'm the one with the Spartacus muscles :oD

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    3. Faux Magna at 20:19, well, you would have 'em, being the gay one down the gym 24/7.

      How many times must I tell you? While your looks (such as they were) are faded through advanced middle age, what matters is personality.

      What? OK. You don't have much of that either. But you could always cross your fingers and pray to Saint Jude😆)

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    4. Once again I would like to apologise for my going on about gayness. It's my own problem which makes me see everyone else as gay!
      - Cough - I'm straight! And butch! With a hairy chest!

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  28. Everyone who agrees that the original Magna should be blocked (and there are lots) should boycott posting on this blog for the next few days. This will maybe make Pat sit up and take us seriously for a change. Enough is enough.

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  29. 18.40 Is that the best you can come up with.
    How enlightening. Lol

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  30. I would like to thank you all for your kind messages of support. 12:55 in particular brought a tear to my eye.
    My absence today has been explained by taking Magna Carta to hospital for his prostate exam. You wouldn't believe the fuss he made! I'm afraid I rather tactlessly asked the doctor if he enjoyed his work, and I'm afraid it started Magna off on one of his rants. Matron threatened to ban him because she wanted what she thought were the hospital's pyjama bottoms back, and he became quite violent when she tried to take them off him. I had to explain that they are actually his own and he won't wear anything else...
    It's been a trying day but all the better for the kind wishes of my dear friends here.

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    1. Don't you remember squeezing the tube of KY over the doctor?

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  31. Both Magna 1 and Magna 2 are really quiet today-

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  32. St Patricks College website no longer titles Prof. Séamus O’Connell as "Rev.". An oversight or has he be laicised?

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  33. We have two Magna Cartas

    Original: Magna Carta Blue.

    Newer: Magna Carta Black.

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    1. The problem is, they're both BIG. It would be a terrible dilemma for most commentators on this blog.

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    2. But the other's bigger than me!

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    3. @21.25

      I've often been put in that awkard position before... many times. Luckily, I gauge men on the size of their balls.

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    4. And believe me the rumours are true lol

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    5. But you have none, Faux Magna.😆

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  34. Obviously, today's blog comments are out of control. Time for a priestly scandal, me thinks.

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  35. Well more fool you Pat for endorsing these pair of numpties, I can’t be bothered with this blog anymore if that’s your attitude. You probably get some weird kick out of their mentalities anyhow. Maybe explains why you protect both MC’s.

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  36. Well Pat..if that’s how you run a blog
    It’s goodby from me.

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    1. @20:34 and 20:53 - Bye bye. Bye bye.

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  37. Is there any more on Achonry?

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    1. Achonry? +Pat doesn't need to drive traffic to his blog for free.

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  38. The German church tax is interesting because to stop paying it you must formally reject membership of the church concerned. So Germans leave the church and there are statistics of who's leaving - people don't just melt away.
    Otherwise I find it incomprehensible and also the way Germans see it as normal and think it odd we don't have it!

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    1. Yackidy yack....yawn nnnnnnnn

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    2. Well, that's Germans for you!

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  39. Pat how many hits had you from Meath yesterday?

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    1. Not sure filtering works like that. Be as well asking +Pat how many hits from Norway yesterday.

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  40. It’s goodbye from him and it’s goodbye from me. May your blog go with you.

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  41. Pat I've always wondered but don't remember it being discussed: do you have a devotion to St Philip Neri?

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  42. Please don't block any of the MCs.

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    1. That will be up to +Pat just as the future of Maynooth and the Irish College at Rome is in his gift.

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  43. Don’t answer him , Pat, he should post as anonymous or get his own nom de plume.
    He just wants to show us how you have accepted his behaviour
    Well let me tell you this Pat
    Most of your followers DONT

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  44. Did any poster discuss this blog today?
    Doesn’t appear that it was discussed
    Just s***e clone stuff all day.
    Some blog this is.Pat just abandoned his ship all day.
    Probably too busy dining with PAUL the newbie

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  45. Homosexual Marriage is an abomination in the eyes of the Lord. Marriage is God's gift for the growth of the human family and of the family of faith.
    Shame on all who teach otherwise. You are ignorant of Holy Writ.

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  46. The post of two days ago spoke of priest/layman liaison(s) in Achonry.

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  47. Yes marriage is God’s gift for the growth of the humanity.
    Same-sex attraction and marriage are God’s gift for preventing further overpopulation and self-destruction of the planet.

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