Thursday, 25 January 2018

IRISH COLLEGE - THE NEW MAYNOOTH ???

CIARAN O' CARROLL - HEAD ON CHOPPING BLOCK

THE IRISH COLLEGE IN ROME IS THE "NEW GAYNOOTH" AND MONSIGNOR CIARAN O' CARROLL IS THE NEW HUGH CONNOLLY.

DIARMUID MARTIN moved his seminarians away from Maynooth because of the "THE STRANGE GOINGS ON" and it now looks as if those strange goings-on are as common in The Irish College as they were in Maynooth.

So, in fact, Diarmuid Martin, God bless his little purple cotton socks, took his seminarians out of the frying pan and dropped them straight into the fire!


In fact, there is much more scope in Rome for gay seminarians. The city is full of gay cruising grounds, pubs, saunas, and clubs.

There are many sexually gay prelates and priests in Rome who would be only happy to show young Irish men the ropes - in return of course, for sexual favours, friendship, and confidentiality.

In fact, for a sexually active gay seminarian or priest, being sent to Rome is far better than going to Heaven!

Even if some of them are chaste and celibate, the majority of seminarians these days, including in The Irish College, are gay.

And quite a number of them are sexually active. They are on GRINDR and other gay apps. They have "relationships" with each other. They are sexually involved with priests in their home dioceses. 

They talk about each other. They know which of them is up to what. They often go out on the gay scene in small groups. They have feminine nicknames for each other. 

THE IRISH BISHOPS:


IRISH BISHOP PAUL TIGHE IN IRISH COLLEGE RECENTLY


The Irish bishops knew what was going on in Maynooth and what is going on in The Irish College - and they are tolerating it. Why?

That is a very good question.

Perhaps some of them are, let's say, "gay-friendly".

Perhaps they know that if the face up to the problem they will have to say goodbye to a large number of their current, already small number, of seminarians.

Perhaps they will not be told what to do by ANYONE!


MY FRIEND PHONSIE IN THE IRISH COLLEGE RECENTLY



You see the doctrine and practice of the Roman Catholic Church are very clear.

Being gay is officially regarded as being "disordered".

In order to be a priest, you have to be celibate for life.

Gay actions are mortal sins.


So why do the Irish bishops, who are appointed by Rome, and whose job it is to uphold Catholic teachings tolerate seminarians and priests being non-celibate and promiscuous and therefore living in mortal sin?

Do they not really believe the teachings they are supposed to teach and uphold?

And if that is the case, why did they take the job, and why do they stay in the job?





The other problem and this is a BIG problem for the Catholic laity and especially for parents, is - are you happy to let your 18-year-old son enter a seminary to be seduced there within days of his entry?

And what about the shattered faith of such young men?

IS ANYONE, ANYWHERE, GOING TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE IRISH COLLEGE?

DIARMUID MARTIN IS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE IRISH COLLEGE BOARD.




CONTACT

bishopbuckley1@outlook.com 

92 comments:

  1. Ciaran O'Carroll is a joke

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  2. Xxxxxxxx in Rome is the biggest queen. Expose him.

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  3. Expose Xxxxxxxxc +Pat. Plenty more I think.

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    1. If someone is not good we need more evidence.

      bishopbuckley1@outlook.com

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  4. Those priests who entered the priesthood specifically to corrupt it 'networked' and succeeded in becoming more and more influential over the years. These influential homosexuals then encouraged homosexuals to enter their orders and seminaries and discouraged those heterosexuals not in sympathy with 'the lifestyle' from staying and so we find ourselves in this situation. This systematic takeover has been witnessed, described and documented by several priests who have seen their orders and dioceses become infested by priests who hate the traditional teaching of the Church and seek to reverse it. And they are now at the highest levels of power. It is a Satanic takeover but we know that there is another creature of God, greater in power than he and She will reverse it.

    I recall reading the account of an American seminarian devoted to Our Lady of Fatima whose room was invaded by two homo. seminarians. One held him on the bed while the other prepared to do something (assumed to be a sexual assault) when the one who was about to do something suddenly cried out, looked at a statue of Our Lady in the room and ran away, the other then did the same.

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    1. I will be shocked if this is placed online but I will try we the Church have been around for over 2 thousand year and will survive but given the constant attack on here who cares.

      yes we are walking on egg shells but lets get the Papal Visit over and we will see.
      Yes Thanks to + Pat we will not have these guy much longer as Pope Francis says they are a Mortgage for life so goodbye to them.

      but Priests cruising Grindr for the good of the Church my advice to them is GOODBYE you are as bad as these idiots.

      + Pat I know yoy Hate us because of Cardinal Daly but in Scotland we have had worse and God Forbid that Pope Francis should appoint any of the current bishops Cardinal we are finished after O'Brien come March his days are over.

      The current bishops of Ireland are not stupid and as some people say keep the numbers up that is NOT true these guys are a liability and the Church will not accept that.
      I finish in disappointment to you and your FANS the Church will survive as it has done for over two thousand years and Our Lady will save her Sons CHURCH.

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    2. 00:40
      Alarmist poppycock, worthless analysis, and superficial familiarity with serious sociological trends of the last few centuries and before, even with the benefit of hindsight.

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  5. Poor poor Tom Norris. What must he make of all this scandal?

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    1. He was in Maynooth for years and Kilkenny seminary before that so strange goings-on will be no surprise to him.

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    2. I wonder if Tom Norris, as spiritual director has sems confessing Grindr sins? If so he should encourage them to leave.

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  6. Do they still have the pool at the Irish College where the lads used to swim naked and frolic late at night? A good way to cool down in more ways than one I suppose!

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    1. The pool is still there and it's still very popular. It's the envy of the other Roman colleges, especially the VEC. They'd put it to good use, given half the chance.

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    2. A very sad story from the now closed pool at Maynooth. To think this man is a priest. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/maynooth-swimming-pool-incident-to-feature-in-court-case-1.357067%3Fmode=amp

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    3. I remember that Head of Security. He should have been believed. He was a professional and had nothing to gain from telling lies. As a social worker I'd ask much deeper questions to a child who said nothing happened. They could have been coerced, sworn into silence, or sadly of all, children in their desire to please make excuses for adult misdemenours.

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  7. Say it like it is...26 January 2018 at 01:21

    Msge. O'Carroll's only crime is being too syrupy. He exudes false interest in whoever he is speaking to unless someone of greater rank is present to whom he instantly attends.

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    1. He's not a Mons, too young for that under new rules introduced by PF. Did you know that Joe McGuinness, the next bishop of Clogher calls him Uriah Heap behind his back? Joe is so funny, though his knowing sense of humour grates on some of my sacerdotal colleagues, who find it a bit unmanly. That possibly reflects their roots in north Monaghan.

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    2. Sorry, I was mistaken, he was made a Mgr in 2011 under the old rules.

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  8. At some point, they're probably saying to themselves, "oh, bugger it, I'm not putting up with this for a caper, if I'm caught, I'm caught. I'll either get free trip to America, or shunted out with a lump sum after signing a non-disclosure document". It's a win-win situation for them.

    Personally, I don't blame them, I'd probably do the same.

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  9. If the bishops could do something about it, they'd have done it long ago. You can't beat nature.

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    1. What is stopping the bishops doing something about these issues?

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    2. 3.50 It's not about nature. It's about double standards Not calling a spade a spade and using the church as a pre paid club if allegations are true

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    3. I don't know what the bishops can do to stop this sort of thing as they've probably been at it themselves in the past.

      For all his faults, Keith O'Brien did say, celibacy should be optional and he would know.

      Moreover, you're a bishop. What would you do if you found out one of the Little Brothers was looking for BBC online at Jack'd for blacks?

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    4. 09:08, what on Earth has celibacy to do with unchastity? On what rational ground can non-celibacy be a preventive measure for sexual promiscuity?

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    5. Bizarre question. It has much to do with it.

      Chastity is the living out of sexuality in accordance with one’s state in life.
      If enforced celibacy is one’s state in life unchastity can often ensue.

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    6. Bizarre reply, 10:14.

      Chastity, for a Christian, isn't optional, whether a person be celibate or non-celibate.

      As for your claim that chastity is the 'living out of sexuality', from where did you acquire this nugget of fools' gold? Chastity is the denial (total or intermittent) of the sexual expression of one's sexuality, for the sake of the Kingdom of Heaven. It is a sacrifice in love and, therefore, a voluntary act. At least, that's how the Gospel conceives it.

      No one who enters seminary or priesthood has celibacy enforced on them: it is accepted by candidates supposedly for the reason I stated above. At least it should be. If it isn't (if these candidates believe that the requirement for celibacy is an imposition on them) then they should not have lied to themselves and to others when they entered either state.

      What we are witnessing now, by seminarians and priests parading their unchastity online and elswhere, is the natural (almost predictable) consequence of these lies.

      These men are fundamentally liars, to themselves and to others. They should never have put themselves forward for ordination, or as candidates for ordination. Their social and personal sins are the graver for this self-indulgence.

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    7. The difference celibacy and non-celibacy is indistinguishable for most priests and seminarians nowadays, otherwise +Pat would have no material for the blog.

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    8. 10:24
      Rubbish! Not even attempting a masquerade. Chastity is a virtue required of all Christians. It will have different applixatio for married and not-married.
      Clearly you haven’t earned an undergraduate qualification in theology.

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    9. MC I usually skip a post with these letters at the head. You are confusing celibacy and chastity. Today’s offering from you indicates an instability at a few levels. Enough said.

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    10. No, pinhead at 13:57. I made a distinction between them.

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    11. Were you the northern guy fired in the late 80’s whose initial begins with D?

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    12. No he isn't, I was.

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  10. May I ask, who is the guy in the photo?

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    1. https://www.queerty.com/exclusive-grindr-screenshots-reveal-antigay-pastor-is-a-top-who-likes-to-cuddle-20150518

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  11. BUCKLEY, YOU HAVE GONE TOO FAR WITH THIS BLOG TODAY. YOU WILL FEEL THE FULL WEIGHT OF THE LAW BY 10 AM.

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    1. The huffed and they puffed...where have we had threats of law and solicitors letters before..?

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  12. 7.29 O dear! This is the first bit of straight talking I have come across in a long while whether it relates to Rome or anywhere else. The situation needs dealing with and sorting out in the open for once and for all.

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  13. @7:29. It is now almost 10:30am. Any sign of “the full force of the law”, Pat?

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    1. Not yet.

      But there is a yellow and white van outside my house with Italian number plates and what looks like two very handsome Swiss men in their late 20s in it.

      I wonder if that is a coincidence?

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    2. Are the two Little Brothers gagging for them?

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    3. The Brothers do not live here.

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    4. The Brothers live along the road from the primary school.. Yes.

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    5. Giovanni Batista Re26 January 2018 at 21:37

      Pat, could you send the hot Swiss Guards over to me in Maguiresbridge? My telly's on the blink, the vertical hold isn't working and Rent-A-Set doesn't open till 9am tomorrow.

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    6. No Swiss guard should go near Lisbellaw.. You in Maguiresbridge won't need to ask why!!

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    7. I dunno. They'd put up a good effort, defend the aged VDs house? No offence to Irish men, of which I'm one, but the Swiss Guards seem to be all fit, slim and handsome. I was told off by one at Castel Gandalfo in the 1990s. It was great.

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  14. It is not really accurate to say that celibacy is not “for” these guys causing these scandals in Maynooth and the ICR - and indeed those ordained living immoral lives.

    It is more accurate to say that the 6th and 9th Commandments of the Decalogue are not “for” these individuals. Christian teaching on chastity is not “for” these young and not so young men. Christian virtue around sexual morality and behaviour is not “for” these persons.

    There is no place in a seminary, certainly not in the priesthood, for men who behave in the gravely sinful manner being exposed on this blog.

    Away with them. We would be better with a few decent priests than encumbered with all these trawling, cruising, fornicating excuses for priests and seminarians, who have given themselves over to their lusts and desires against God’s Word and His clear commands.

    Rightly has someone pointed out I think yesterday, those who prowl for sex - online and elsewhere - could be problematic in parishes for teenage boys and young men in parishes, if some of these Grindr users “fancy” them!

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  15. Pat, Don't worry about the fellas parked outside in the van... Probably just come to take back your TV set if you didn't keep up with the payments. It happens to everybody sooner or later

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    1. My TV is not on the never never and I pay my TV licence monthly by direct debit.

      It might be a gay couple looking a blessing?

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    2. Don't be so stuffy, Pat! That poster @ 10.44 was very obviously just joking..

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  16. Hey Bishop Pat, I'm glad you've pointed the celibacy issue out to us. I think it needs open discussion in the church leadership.

    Could the problem be that celibacy is naturally disordered...?

    If the entire Church explores Love in a full and meaningful way would we see our priests act this way?

    When men and women are allowed to express a basic human right - will we see men and women forced to go underground to attain basic needs.
    It is actually a very sad and oppressive leadership that would govern so.
    I ask, what healthy young person that can critically question desire to participate in such medieval oppression?

    - so whether you fall in love, or you don't fall in love - does falling in love affect ones ministry and journey to become a full and happy person! I don't think it should...

    Good bye Catholic Church. I will not be supporting your visit to Ireland, however I will be supporting the protest against it.

    Amen

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    1. @ 13.30
      You can speak for yourself. My views are very different. Bye.. go on, keep leaving.. BYE

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    2. I disagree with you, 13:20. Celibacy is not the issue here. Firstly, these men are not "forced" to be celibate - they know what the expectation is if they seek to join the priesthood of the Roman Rite. Secondly, if they discover in the course of their seminary training that celibacy is not for them, they are free to leave (and they should).

      The issue with Maynooth, and now (apparently) Rome, is that there are seminarians who are choosing to study for the priesthood of the Roman Rite who are not practicing celibacy. In other words, the issue is hypocrisy. The next element in their hypocrisy is that these men are engaging in homosexual acts which the Catholic Church teaches are gravely sinful. A further element in their hypocrisy is the apparent promiscuity - i.e. cruising Grindr and such apps.

      I say it again, the problem here is not celibacy but the hypocrisy of men who don't appear to have any qualms about living double lives.

      On another point, Anon. 07:23 provided a link about the pastor in the photos that Pat has used in today's blog. As a Lutheran, this man was not bound by the same rules of celibacy as Roman Rite clergy - he is/was married with five children and yet he went and put a profile of himself on Grindr. Obviously the fact that he did this as a married man is scandalous, but, as the article points out, he had been a defender of marriage and was against homosexual marriage. This man - with no promise of celibacy - has succeeded in being at least as much of a hypocrite as the Maynooth and Rome Grindr crew. To all the world he was living as a married man, yet in private look at what he was doing!

      No, hypocrisy, double-standards and double-lives are the glaring issues here and celibacy is no more the cause of the kind of hypocrisy we have seen here than marriage and a family is a remedy for it.

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    3. J C was probably celibate. Otherwise I think gospels would have mentioned his other half

      Was JC disordered, then?

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    4. An argument from silence is just that.

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    5. 15.15 your posting is unwholesome in the extreme. You are welcome to your brand of unredeemed religiosity.

      Celibacy is indeed the issue. The enforced associating of ministry and celibacy such that it’s both or neither is the nub.

      Even a superficial historical awareness will make you aware of the folly of the coerced coupling of the two. The reception of this practice/ideology is a story of resistance in every age since its inception.

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    6. 13.20 - your comment seems quite immature to me. Today's blog is not about celibacy at all, yet you make out that this is a big issue that +Pat has raised today. It is about promiscuous, two-faced seminarians, who are pretending to live a good Catholic life but who are doing exactly the opposite.

      Your attitude seems to be that "the celibacy made them do it". In other words, all of this scandal is the fault of the big bad Catholic Church. But if that's the case, these men are merely victims and are not really culpable. We all make choices and we must take responsibility for them. I'm sorry, but these men are not forced into celibacy, nor are they forced to be promiscuous or to set up Grindr profiles - they need to take responsibility for their choices and admit that the priesthood is not for them. The bishops and their formators also have a duty to terminate the formation of these men.

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    7. No. Besides it's well known he wasn't celibate!

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    8. Of course, there was that wedding feast at Cana; you know: that one-camel town in Galilee.

      You don't think the bridegroom here was...? You do! Don't you?

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    9. Agree 100%, 15.15.

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    10. 18:33 what's enforced about celibacy? Priests are volunteers, not conscripts and they have to make a handwritten request to be admitted as a candidate for diaconate and priesthood, in which they affirm they do so freely and without external pressure.

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  17. Now grandma's a person that everyone likes.
    She bought you a train and a bright shiny bike.
    But lately she hasn't been coming to dinner.
    And last time you saw her she looked so much thinner.
    Now your ma and your da said she moved to Peru
    But the truth is she died and someday you will too. Lalalalalalaala

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  18. Irish College – The New Maynooth???

    Maybe, who knows, but I suppose a lot would depend on the number and the seniority of the redacted private parts revealed on here.

    For example, a rector or vice-rector’s redacted private parts would probably have an adverse effect on the College’s future. A professor’s redacted private parts could also be very damaging.

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  19. Having sex with more than one person is not what Christians do.
    Celibacy is a different issue, not many agree with it.
    What’s so hard to understand about the above?
    Promiscuous way of living is wrong....Simple

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    1. Pat has had sex with more than one person. is Pat not a christian? genuine question.

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    2. If true, readers are surely entitled to see your redacted private parts. It's only fair.

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    3. Yes Pat did wrong, and repented, I don’t think he went out looking for sex though, possible bad judgments at that time.
      But he is now married and seen the light
      We have older priests( supposedly ) leering and abusing young vulnerable adults.yes young people are vulnerable until around 22 at least.

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    4. I agree with 15.59. And if Pat denies this, he is a liar. Having sexual connection with more than one person is the journey of many people who seek to discover or accept their sexual identity. It's his business of course but when he hounds others in their struggles, his condemnation is rank hypocrisy and morally unacceptable. Undoubtedly Pat will answer in the affirmative to your legitimate question. That too is his prerogative but let him demonstrate his supposed Christ likeness in more moral, ethical and honest ways, along with discovering mercy, compassion, fairness etc...Remember Pat, you were once in a place where these seminarians find themselves - and I suspect you experimented just as proficiently and frequently! So, less of your hypocrisy and double standards - please.

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    5. 22.18. Well spoken. Hope Pat might at least reflect on his own hypocricies which he stunningly displays so often in his comments.

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  20. Why all this hang up about sex. As long as two adults are consenting, aren’t doing anybody harm, don’t frighten the children or scare the horses. So what? Also they need to protect against STDs. You Irish catholics have such guilt hang ups about sex. Enjoy each other. Join the outside world. Sex is for all. It’s nature’s greatest fun gift to mankind. It will still be the same post Brexit! Go baby, go !

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    1. 14:55, you obviously believe in nothing and have the morals of a barnyard tom cat. So “go baby, go” your damned bloody self!

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    2. Go baby go......promiscuous way of living is sinful.
      A loving relationship yes....but going out looking for sex is wrong.

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  21. Ciaran O'Carroll is furious he is the subject of your blog.

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  22. "The Irish bishops knew what was going on in Maynooth and what is going on in The Irish College - and they are tolerating it. Why?"

    You tell us, you're a bishop. What would you do?

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  23. I know I'm going to regret asking this but what is a top?

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    1. ... the opposite of a bottom in bed.

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    2. As in the Missionary Position, man-on-top.

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    3. you know full well! you're a shit stirrer!

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    4. As if he didn't know.

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  24. Clogher and Meath playing ping pong with that deacon..........first he was with Clogher, then he jumped ship, and...........now.........back to Clogher! A bloody mess and Clogher hasn't the backbone to tell him to take a hike.

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    1. I'm quietly confident that Joe McG will iron out any difficulties, whatever the PP of Enniskillen and our 84 year old Vocations Director have to say on the matter. Frankly it's none of their business and it's disloyal in the extreme. Canon Shane McCaughey, who has risen through the ranks despite having no discernible personality, would never behave that way.

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    2. Clogher PP (Fermanagh)27 January 2018 at 00:12

      Even though I encourage dialogue in Clogher and I'm a bit of a liberal, personally I found it poor form that Canon O'Reilly tore into Mgr McGuinness when talking privately to Clogher Dan Oige delegates at our last Clogher away day for priests. That was poor form and no need to wash dirty laundry in public.

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  25. 21:06 A top is one who prefers to be active in sex.......the guy who f**** the other guy........who is a bottom. You're welcome

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  26. Some possible reasons the bishops don't act:

    1. They are compromised.

    2. They don't believe it's a sin.

    3. Avoidance of scandal. Ignore it and the problem will go away.

    4. They want to force Rome's hand by saying that celibacy is an impossible ideal, so get rid of it.

    5. They have devolved all responsibility to seminary formation teams and they unquestioningly ordain candidates approved by Maynooth etc.

    6. They think that the reports are untrue.

    7. They think Pat has an axe to grind and the secular press is unworried so it's a storm in a teacup.

    8. They need the personnel at all costs.

    9. Reacting would suggest that the formators made a mistake.

    10. They want to appear all nice, pastoral and be popular with their priests.

    11. They put it down to youthful indiscretion.

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    1. 12. They don't want to give Pat a victory.

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  27. Exporting a problem from Maynooth to Rome is no solution.

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  28. In the old Maynooth, before it was wrecked in the 1960s and 70s, the sems only left the college one day a week, on Wednesday afternoon for a walk into the village under the supervision of the deans. Maynooth is a totally out of control seminary now. The bishops are terrified because Maynooth University has served notice that they will leave Humanity House, New House and Long Corridor when they build their new Student Services building, leaving the bishops with empty buildings and no rent. Just refurbished and extended Rhetoric and Logic Houses will be occupied by MY.

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  29. I see there are two anonymous persons now using the nom de plume “Magna Carta”.

    I have long suspected, in any case, that “Magna Carta” is more than one person.

    Indeed, “our name is legion for we are many” springs to mind.

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    1. Oh there are more than that. Multiple Personality Disorder is a very disabling condition, and we should really be treated with sympathy.

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  30. There are three of us now. The gift that keeps on giving.

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  31. Totally degrading for a man to be a bottom, it must have horrendous psychological effects.

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  32. make an old man very happy once a week-doctor of divinity on the way. top or bottom take it as it comes paddy

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