Tuesday, 2 January 2018

THE SEX INDUSTRY???

A BLOG READER SUBMITTED THE FOLLOWING FOR MY/YOUR DELIBERATIONS:




Dear Pat,
I would like you to address the sex industry in Ireland worth at least 1/2 a billion euros and heading towards a billion, on your blog. Perhaps you might be the best person to do it.
There are two aspects as I see it.

  1. The silence of the church, state, media and women's groups.
  2. The need for a pastoral (non-patronizing and understanding) voice to call men away from sexual escorts and sexual massage.


There are probably about 1500 fulltime escorts offering anything for an average of 80e for 30 mins. There are 800 on one site alone. If each escort has an average of 5 x 30 min clients per day and one 60 min client, each will earn an average of 560e per day.

That's  7 x 80 x 365 x 1500 = 306 million euro




There are easily 2000 full-time sexual masseuses in the country. If they get 5 clients per day at an average of 60e per hour.

That's 5 x 60 x 365 x 2000 =  219 million euro

Add in the 2-hour clients, the full day clients, 3-hour dinner clients, overnight clients, tips, gifts, taxis etc and these figures rise further.

Not even Revenue is touching these escorts - no income tax, no vat, no receipts

The church is silent. In Dublin, there are usually 150 escorts working in D1 and D2. Silence
I saw on one site 18 escorts working in Longford town alone one week.

Despite the fact that the girls will tell you that most of their clients are married men - the women of Ireland are silent.

Most escorts work in two's. According to the law that is a brothel - no one prosecuted.

If my figures are roughly correct, what is of more concern is the number of clients.
1500 escorts with an average of 6 clients per day are 9,000 clients per day countrywide or 63,000 clients per week.

However, if clients visit only once every fortnight that figure goes to 120,000 different men per fortnight.
If men visit only once per month, then the figure is 250,000 individual regular clients.
Not to mention anything about the sexual massage industry.




I would like you to call men, in an understanding way, to come away from the women selling sex.
The clients are doing themselves no favours only getting addicted. They are doing no favors to the escorts no matter how accommodating or wanting they are. The range of women available appears sometimes incredible.


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My Dear Reader and Friend,

From what you say above I think that you are going to be disappointed by my response.

I am also amazed that you did not once mention male escorts - but concentrated exclusively on women in the sex industry?

I believe that the SEX INDUSTRY should be LEGALISED and REGULATED and NOT ABOLISHED.

It is the oldest profession in the world and even if we wanted to abolish it we could not!

I do think that national and international law should come down most heavily on those who track or use women, men and children who are trafficked for prostitution.

I also believe that the state has a huge responsibility to care for those people forced into prostitution through economic need.

But I believe that every truly consenting adult should be free to engage in sex with any other truly consenting adult - even for money.

One of my very first ministeries, when I was ordained in 1976, was to the female sex workers in Dublin through my association with The Legion of Mary Regina Coeli Women's Hostel in Dublin and through a priest friend, Canon John Pierce PP of Rathmines.

So I have been involved in this issue for going on 42 years.

Many of the women I worked with had been sexually abused as children and had been through the Catholic orphanage system or the Magdalen Laundries.

Others had been victims of incest in their homes and had drifted into prostitution to get away from their abusers.

Others had become involved through poverty - and even some women did it to raise money for the support of their children.

Others did it freely, because they enjoyed it and because it gave them a good income.

I do think that street and public prostitution should be illegal and cracked down on.

But I also believe that we should, like they have in other countries, legal "brothels".

I also believe that if a woman or man wants to privately practice in the sex industry from their own home they should be allowed to.

I think that the sex industry should be regulated by the Department of Health with:

1. A confidential Register of Sex Workers.

2. A Licence to Practice - on the understanding that the worker observes the legal, health and tax regulations of the Register.

3. Obligatory monthly health checks for workers.

4. The provision, availability, and acceptance of contraception and disease prevention.

5. A Regulator and Inspectorate of the Register.

6. A confidential and non-judgemental record of clients. 


I think that actions like these would go a long way towards ending trafficking, public prostitution, etc and would see t it that far fewer sex workers get beaten up or even killed.


The morality of it?

The bishops, priests, ministers, rabbis, imams, etc can all preach about the topic from their own pulpits - but their preaching would not affect the law of the land.


92 comments:

  1. Talk with Ruhama, an organisation who works with women caught in this trade and slavery. You should speak with and listen to the professionals who work to protect women from this multi milliin euro trade. Many young women are trafficked to Ireland to act as slaves in the sex industry. I don't believe we should endorse this abuse of women by legalising pristitution. Essentially it's a very sordid industry and ultimately destroys and dehumanises women. We should nit compromise on the dignity of any person through the sex industry, especially women who are the ones who suffer most and who can be hurt for life.

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    1. There is a world of difference between people being trafficked for the sex industry and mature and free Irish women and men voluntarily practising a private services business from their homes.

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    2. I am not at all convinced by the old "world of a difference" argument. In essence, women are degraded and regarded as things.... paid for.. temporarily used... expendable.. Their dignity and feelings of no concern whatsoever.

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    3. Yes.. I should have included men...

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    4. Pat, would you cop on. If two adults consent to sexual activity, that's their business.We're not talking about that here. The "sex trade/prostitution/escort" industry is degrading for both men and women but let's be quite clear - WOMEN ARE TRAFFICKED INTO OUR COUNTRY, ABUSED, TERRIFIED, DEHUMANISED, IMPOVERISHED, TARGETED AND RUINED THRIUGH THE SEX INDUSTRY. Your "world of a difference argument" is flawed and compromising on the truth and reality for the vast majority of women. Talk with Ruhama.

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  2. I agree it should be legalised. The safety of the workers comes first. People will engage in this activity whither others like it or not. There is scope for ministry to workers and users of the service.

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  3. I agree with you on this Pat.

    Also I want to point out that the person ho wrote into you never gave these workers a day off or holiday leave when calculating their figures. This makes me fear that they are in some way involved in trafficking of ladies - and so would profit from legalisation.

    Finally, I honestly believe that bishops and clergy would not preach on this because some of them would be afraid of being exposed as clients. It happens.

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    1. Even if they aren't clients, who would listen to their preaching today? Seriously?

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    2. 9.20 and 10.27 (Magna) - being the usual, predictable slobbers - can't make an intelmigent comment without referencing Bishops in nasty, twisted ways. Says more about your minds than anyone else. Shit***s! Andcwho, Magna, would want your poisonous preaching?

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    3. 13:10, you're hysterical. Calm down.

      Nothing I said about these men was 'nasty' or 'twisted', but truthful. They have lost all respect because of their behaviour.

      Grow up.

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    4. @13.10
      My initial post here was not a product of a twisted mind but a result of my inside knowledge of real clerical life. People fall off the 'chastity wagon', how they do it varies and this is one such route off the 'celibate wagon'.

      I reiterate Magma's point, "Grow up".

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    5. Magna,13.36: You are the one on this blog who truly needs to GROW UP....Your words mostly in incite incite hatred and venom towards the category of people fow whom you have a deep, dangerous contempt, i.e: clerics. You rarely display emotional intelligence, you despise almost everyone. You seem full of misery and anfst and when drunk, you're unbearable and unacceptably vicious. And incidentally, Magna, "they" haven't lost all respect - easy to be dogmatic when you have an anti Church/Clerical bias.

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  4. If people want to do something despicable and wrong they will always find a way to do it, above board or not above board.
    I just don't think we should expect that the law of the land will aid and abet them and make it easy to do so.. Unforeseen consequences as usual won't be properly thought through..

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  5. @ 9.24

    I couldn't agree with you more. Some very woolly thinking going on..

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  6. So we have finally sunk to the point where we regard the repeated degradation of women(and men) as a "private services industry"!!
    This is exactly what porn and porn newspaper ads have gradually over time lured us to accept as somehow "normal" They have now got us as a society to think this is fine and acceptable.
    It most assuredly IS NOT!

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    1. God bless. You're a good person @ 11.21.
      I wish I had friends like you. Even one.

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    2. Your Grace,
      In the light of 11:21's comment I have a complaint. Up until I read your artcle about relics and the gratuitous pornography in the comments, I was a sister or Perpetual Adoration in Donegal.
      It awoke a hitherto unknown desire in me, and as a result I have forsaken my vows and had to resort to prostitution to support myself. The man whose bitch I am never gives me a day off and the madam's treatment of us girls is atrocious.
      I hope you are ashamed of the result of publishing such vile pornography.

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    3. @ 17.16
      There are now available apparently some trashy weekly magazines who actually offer to buy fictitious porn stories such as you were attempting to cobble together here.
      Maybe you should give it a go.
      Or better still--attend a good creative writing course where you will discover why your sort of smart ass irony just doesn't work.

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    4. Bingo - result.
      17:16

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    5. Yep,.. Obviously fool house.

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  7. I certainly don't have to justify having respect for women (and men) to anyone.
    But since you obviously felt the need to ask - - says all decent right thinking people.
    Safly,of course, that does not include everybody.

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  8. Well articulated 11.21: Try as we may, the camouflaged awfulness of the sex industry should be spoken of in clear terms. It is a DEGRADING, DEHUMANISING INDUSTRY FOR ALL MEN AND WOMEN BUT WOMEN ARE MOST ABUSED, HURT,DAMAGED AND DESTROYED. Let's be clear: the sex industry is not a victimless industry, the victims mostly being women.

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    1. @ 13.15.
      Poster 11.21 noted and appreciated your agreeing comment. Thanks.

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  9. By all means find the bitch you want and pay for her services..
    If you want to ensure you get the pedigree pups you intended...

    The same applies to certain other animals such as beef cattle and racehorses.
    It does not apply to humans.
    Don't confuse the two.

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  10. Prostitution is probably far more honest than many other sexual relationships. You pay the cash, you get the gash. You don't pay, you don't get. So long as the customer doesn't physically abuse the prostitute or the customer is robbed by the prostitute, what's the problem? Pimps are the rotten link in the chain, one the state could cut out if effective protection and regulation were given to those in this very old service industry. What's the difference between paying upfront for a fuck and wining and dining a person (and spending probably more) with the same eventual objective in mind?

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    1. You are correct poster 13.55
      There is very little difference.
      Both are equally despicable.

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  11. Paying a woman or man for sex in N. Ireland is now illegal thanks to the DUP. However, in the South as a man, I often pay other young men for sex. They are not trafficked which is a totally different issue on It's own and they do it because they enjoy it and want to make extra cash. No one is harmed in this and we both leave extremely satisfied. Talking to some male escorts (many of whom are online) you will be surprised how they can meet members of the Clergy on a regular basis. Names are never discussed or revealed probably because the rent boy is not only getting paid but showered with clothes, jewellery and expensive cologne. I never have a quick meet but sometimes chat with the escort and it's intriguing to find out a little about their lifestyles. One regular young escort in Dublin told me last week that a regular Priest client from up North is taking him on a luxury break to Dubai flying first class. Judging by his usual fees this break will cost a lot of money. With male escorts it's not really about the sex it's how much money you have in your bank account.

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    1. You may shower a young escort with clothes jewellery, expensive colognes or holidays, but never, ever claim that "no-one is harmed on this"
      Stop and reflect a little on the purpose of that young person's existence. Who made him and for what path?
      What role did you play in his eternal destiny?
      How will you account for that role when you are challenged, for challenged you will be. How this world views these things, is insignificant, passing, false and ephemeral.

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    2. Whatever happened to Fr X and his young DUP toy boy? Was that all a hoax?

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    3. Ha ha.. That didn't stop the gullible from believing it all at the time! Some people fall for everything.

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  12. MournemanMichael2 January 2018 at 15:09

    In considering this issue it may be helpful to distinguish between moral considerations relating specifically to sexual activity as physical intimacy, and, quite separately in relation to prostitution, as activity interwoven with immoral behaviour such as coercion and trafficking etc.
    With these distinctions in mind I share some of Pat's views: ....in summary that adults of mature mind should be free to act sexually as they choose if it is with discretion and no element of coercion.
    The inevitable corollary of setting aside specific sexual moral considerations to permit, license or regulate prostitution raises the thorny practical considerations which then spill over into the other non sexual moral concerns of the extent that a more permissive legal framework could well be a pathway for degradation and coercive abusive practices most people find abhorrent.
    There's no ready made easy solution but continuing to ignore the reality of the oldest profession is no answer.
    Like you Pat I was acquainted with Regina Coeli while spending several mid '60's summers working opposite in the Morning Star hostel.
    MMM

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  13. A practicing priest taking his rent a shag to Dubai ?
    Whatever next....wonder if he will be going shagging to any of the venues the Pope will be visiting.
    Oh to be rich and living off the gullible communities that take communion from your dirty hands....yuck !!!!!!!

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  14. How much does promiscuity cost the health service? An important moral consideration surely!

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    1. You make a very good point re/cost of promiscuity poster 16.11
      It eats up resources which are then not available to other parts of the Health Services. Both money and personnel.

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    2. But sex behaviours like all human health behaviours are at best contradictory. A huge proportion of prescriptions are not picked up. People don't turn up for appointments. People do all sorts of things calculated to destroy their health. Sexual behaviours are just one.
      The actual problem here is the expectation that public health services will pay for people's health needs whatever they are.

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    3. Yes, two(or three+) wrongs do not make a right.

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  15. Too many people on here view things from the blinkered perspective of Irish morality. The same morality which has folk screaming from the rooftops about prostitution but remains silent when a murder takes place- especially if it’s someone from a different religious or cultural background!! Stinking hypocrites the lot of ye!!
    Live and let live.

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    1. Very unfair and unwarranted criticism by 16.22
      What on earth makes you think that a principled person who wants women and men to be treated with proper respect wouldn't also condemn the murder of any person whatever the victim's ethnic background!! Of course they would condemn murder. Your conclusion is ridiculous.

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    2. That's fair criticism, 16:22.

      In dear old 'holy' Ireland, you daren't have told a 'dirty' joke. You could put a bullet in some Brit's or Prod's head, but woe betide you if you told a dirty joke. Why that was the wide road to Hell!

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  16. And virtually everyone's missed the point which is that regulation aims to prevent disease or abuse. The moral issues aren't the issue, because the regulation assumes the obvious, which is that prostitution etc will always happen.
    To draw a parallel with booze. It's bad for you and creates endless trouble but will always be there. Regulation means you know what's in the bottle you buy from off licence. Making it unregulated would mean you would never know what's in the bottle.
    Sex with a regulated sex worker would mean certain stamdards of protection for both sides...

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    1. No, we have not at all missed the point. Once something is declared "legal" it is endorsed by the State and takes on an acceptance and "respectability" which in view of its nature, it certainly should not have. There are other and better ways to prevent ST diseases.

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    2. Yes you have missed the point.
      Regulation does not equate to legalisation and certainly not respectability.

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    3. Sorry @18.31
      You are simply wrong on both counts.
      I am not going to spend any more column inches spelling those self-evident things out to you.
      I fear it is one of those blog situations wherein if you cannot see the points, then you would also be incapable of appreciating the nuances involved. Oh dear...

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    4. No, still not getting it.
      Tell you what - don't waste any more column inches demonstrating that you don't understand the nuanced point I made. Perhaps someone else can.

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    5. There's no point @.19.12
      That guy is incapable of operating in your plane.. Don't waste your time on him. For example, he just don't see that if something is formally "regulated," than that IS the law.
      He just don't get it, man.
      So don't bother. Or maybe he's just AH.

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    6. Will the quality control man call unexpectedly to taste the wares? What if he doesn't give up five stars this time? Talk sense.

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    7. @20:50: how stoned are you man?
      Actually I was making a point about regulation alone and not talking about law. Perhaps if you read my original post you'd notice.
      Surely you of all people would be aware of the legal and regulatory position of cannabis in Holland?

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    8. 21:50's silly little joke is so funny that I can only think s/he is deliberately misunderstanding what is meant by regulation. What a wag.
      This is the Dutch government's view: https://www.government.nl/topics/prostitution/health-and-safety-in-the-sex-industry
      And here is a police view from the UK:
      https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/regulating-sex-industry-would-protect-women-says-police-chief-2171121.html%3famp
      At the risk of setting off the Hitler youth Catholics, the Netherlands also has one of the lowest abortion rates in the world:
      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/7971545/

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    9. Check map... Discover for yourself.. This is NOT Holland.

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    10. Check posting... Discover for yourself... I did NOT say it was.
      I am beginning to feel more fellow-feeling with Magna Carta: some of the people who comment here are sooo thick.
      Oh wait, I can:t say that because it's offensive and will be the cause of more righteous indignation among the enfants de Marie.

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  17. I’ve never known anyone not to condem murder.
    We not posting about murder here
    Grow up!!!

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    1. Aha.. So we get an appearance of the "Grow up" jibe! (There was a brilliant poster yesterday or the day before who listed all those bullying snide remarks... He/she was spot on!)

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  18. GORGEOUS:

    He is at home awaiting a placement in the diocese. He did apply to the guards but there is no indication that he was successful in his application.

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    1. Who said the Gardai don't have standards?!
      Are you sure! Faith springs eternal.

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    2. 17:40 you live a sad life. It is time you are exposed....again.

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    3. He might get a placement if there’s any vacancies for pulling pints in the George.

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  19. Well 17.24 I have news for you. I know lots of people who haven’t condemned murder but would jump up and down about the sex industry. Now you grow up and get out into the world and smell the coffee.

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    1. 17.52
      Wow! Three dreadful clich├ęs in one sentence! I wonder if that's a blog record.

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  20. Hey there 15+56. You don’t have to concern yourself with anybody’s eternal destiny. ‘‘Tis none of your business. You look after number uno and everyone else will take care of them selves. Simple

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    1. Yes, I do.
      Very much so.

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  21. CIARAN DALLAT

    Saw Ciaran Dallat officiating at family wedding , made me sick.

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    1. Yes.. I understand. It could be that you ate too much of the wedding dinner. Try a Gaviscon.

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  22. 15.56 who will challenge who and about what. You seen very certain. Prove it!

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    1. I don't think poster 15.56 needs to prove anything to you.
      In the meantime, could I suggest you read the Scriptures a little more carefully.

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  23. Oh dear, Dallat. I hope the pulpit was the only thing he mounted

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  24. Well done, Pat. An invitation to discuss a complex, nuanced ethical issue was bound to have many strings of pearls clutched

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  25. Changing the subject there is a very interesting new docudrama on Netflix about Martin Luther with an intriguing contribution by Cardinal Dolan

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    1. Really? What's it called? Please don't answer 'Martin Luther ('n' that other guy, yes Dolan)'.

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    2. Martin Luther The Idea that changed the World

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    3. Try your channel guide... There will be other choices on telly at the same time... You'll maybe find something worthwhile or curl up with a good book.

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    4. Watched the documentary on Luther.

      Not sure if the star was the reformer himself, or that dreadful wig/tonsure the actor portraying him was wearing. If Luther did not deserve burning at the stake, the show's wigmaker certainly did.

      The acting was barely second-rate, but the entire debacle was rescued by one thing: the script's input of scholarly research. This has only one flaw worth mentioning: Luther was a friar, not a monk.

      As one academic contributor correctly stated, the Protestant Reformation hinged on the neo-theological notion of salvation as pure gift, through faith, rather than an entitlement through good works. It is a truism that frees the individual from morbid and oppressive self-introspection and self-interest (Luther's decision, as a young man, to become a friar was driven by this) and allows him to think also of others in the assurance of his own salvation. Roman Catholics, the slow learners of Christendom, continue to reject the idea of salvation assured through faith, and so prefer to work this out for themselves 'through fear and trembling', the very reason for that much vaunted, and often laughed at, notion of 'Catholic guilt'.

      Will Catholics ever learn? Or must it take another Reformation?­čść

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    5. Luther's proposition that salvation is already bought for us and all we need to do is believe that fact and that, from that point, we can sin and should do so heartily (as he suggests) is not something that adds to the sum of theological knowledge but was Luther's way of assuring himself that he wasn't going to hell. He was an anti-Semitic nutcase whose theories are worthless.

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    6. Even many Catholics don't get the difference between friars and monks. I particularly like referring to monasteries of nuns as monasteries and having people say it should be convent. The neo-Pagans hold the trump card here, though, by referring to Wiccans of both genders as witches and being offended if male witches are called warlocks...except for the few who do call themselves warlocks lol

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    7. Plenty of inaccuracies... But from the Equity point of view, good to see the work. QUB

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    8. 01:07, you don't know Luther at all, but you do know anti-Protestant prejudice and ignorance.

      Luther made it clear that justification (or salvation) by faith alone was not theological carte-blanche to go on sinning. Instead, he espoused the truth that the just man will do good deeds BECAUSE he is just, not because he seeks to be justified before God. The Roman Cathoilic Church, on the other hand, made works (good deeds) the central tenet of its economy of personal salvation; in doing so it completely subverted the teaching in the Letter of James, on the inter-relation of faith and works.

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    9. Whatever about 1:07’s knowledge of Luther or lack there of, you, MC, have no knowledge of the correct teaching of the Catholic Church as regards the relationship between faith and good works.

      As usual your prejudice blinds you. In any case, there exists substantial agreement on this theological question among Catholics and Lutherans nowadays.

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    10. 16:12, can you read at all? Or do you simply have trouble distinguishing grammatical tenses? The second paragraph of my post at 12:12 is couched in the past tense, which means that I was referring to the Roman Catholic Church of Luther's time, NOT that of today.

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    11. Even at Luther’s time, it was the abuse of the doctrine that was the problem - not the doctrine as properly understood and taught by the Church.

      Luther was a basket case and the Pope was worse!

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    12. So what was 'the doctrine', 22:27, as, er, 'properly understood and taught by the Church'?

      And how was Luther a 'basket case' (whatever is that?)?

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  26. Scriptures 19-30 ?? Retrospective fairy stories which can be interpreted every which way.

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  27. father I have been chatting to an "apprentice priest" his name on silverdaddies from maynooth tonight he says he is only 20 he says he has a bf in Kildare and is up for fun is there anyway u can put a stop to this

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    1. I'd be very sceptical about this 'apprentice priest'.

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    2. The lads are all still home on the Christmas hols. You’re a hoaxer aren’t you?

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  28. I recently watched a TV programme (Channel 4 UK, I think) about the lives of women in one of only a few 'permitted areas' for such activities in the UK, in Leeds. The women were in a pathetic state, almost all addicted and some used by 'boyfriends' to feed their own addictions. If this is a peek at legalised prostitution is anything to go by then anyone who supports it must be out of their minds. These girls are victims often of others (past or present) but sometimes of their own expensive and illegal habits. The founder of the Legion of Mary commented that prostitutes were generally much more open to the word of God than 'respectable' people because they knew that they had reached rock bottom and he knew from experience that it could save lives (not least temporal lives). It is not a 'bargain' between willing buyer and seller (even when legalised) it is the use of the unfortunate by the lustful. Men using such women, especially when trafficked or addicted, are in enormous spiritual peril - and hell still exists lest we forget.

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    1. Absolutely correct @ 00.54

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  29. Dear 23:47,
    what a thoroughly disgustingly hypocritical stance you adopt in seeking to coerce another adult - presuming, of course, you are one yourself.

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  30. I'm not a hoaxer but the " apprentice priest" is on the site; he may be lying but he claims to be a seminarian. he may be still on his holidays but has access to the internet

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  31. i would never seek to coerce anyone into doing anything what have I done which is "thoroughly disgusting"?

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  32. It may be very old-fashioned to remind everyone but God clearly expects enormous self-discipline and restraint from each of us (see the Bible). The fact that people of this age see little reason to exercise any restraint whatever is a judgement on this age and its people and not upon God. He is not mocked by those who say that self-restraint is an impossible demand. We have a choice, choose the world and it values and assumptions or choose God's and turn - again and again to Him if we fall. Do not pretend that sin is not sin and the avoidance of serious sin is impossible, that is the way of Satan. For a 'man of God' to wish to legislate sin because, the poor guys and gals can't help themselves, is a spiritual sell-out of the highest order.

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