Saturday, 3 February 2018

ANTI CATHOLIC OR ANTI INSTITUTION



THERE IS A MASSIVE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING "ANTI-CATHOLIC" AND ANTI THE CORRUPT RC INSTITUTION.




Catholicism is like the baby. The Roman Catholic Institution is the dirty water in which the baby is bathed.

The challenge for those of us who treasure our ESSENTIAL CATHOLICISM is to keep the beautiful baby and throw away THE DIRTY WATER and replace it with CLEAN WATER.

I treasure my Catholicism.

I love the essentials of the Catholic Faith - the Bible, The Sacraments, The Mass. my Catholic spirituality, my Catholic prayer life, my vocation as a priest.

But I am THOROUGHLY OPPOSED to the Vatican as a power base and a political entity, the hijacking of the Church by the Hierarchy and Clerics and the various forms of corruption in which the RC Church is swimming - the abuse of power, the financial corruption and the sexual hypocrisy.

Of course, when we highlight and condemn these corruptions and abuses we are called "anti-Catholic" by the clerics with their vested interests and by their blind supporters among the laity - the "Holy Joe's" and "Holy Mary's" that you will see running around after the priests in most parishes in the land. 

But they are the TRUE ANTI CATHOLICS - because they are enabling and supporting the corruption of true Catholicism.

True Catholicism is the same as True Christianity. It is to be true to the Church that Jesus Christ founded and intended. 

It is about loving God and your neighbour.  It is about believing in God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. It is about faith and prayer and almsgiving. It is about Breaking Bread in memory of Him. 

It's about feeding the hungry, giving the thirsty a drink, clothing the naked, caring for the sick, visiting prisoners and welcoming strangers into your home. 


CATHOLICISM IS NOT:

About taking land off Benedito Mussolini in 1929 in order to create a "state".

About sending armies to kill other religions in Crusades.

About torturing people in an Inquisition.




About turning democracies into confessional Catholic states.

About abusing children.

About covering up abuse and hiding evidence in nunciatures and in Vatican vaults.

About burying 700 babies in septic tanks.

About forcing 450,000 men to deny their sexuality.

About keeping women as second-class citizens.

About denying the right to free speech.

About letting mothers die in childbirth.

About turning the priesthood into a gay club.

About turning seminaries into gay saunas. 


So let the Hierarchs, Clergy, Holy Water Hens and Holy Joe's scream "anti-Catholic" at those of us who will no longer countenance these corruptions and abuses without speaking out.


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We speak out not because we "hate" anything. 

We speak out because we love the Church Christ founded and intended - a Church that is being attacked and destroyed from within by those who profess to speak for Christ - but whose actions crucify Him all over again.














83 comments:

  1. According to the front of The Examiner tomorrow, Bishop Phonsie, says that contraception is morally wrong and 'without doubt' has promoted promiscuity in Ireland.
    What has he to say about the Grindr in Seminaries? Or the two priests (one ex) we read about here and their exploits in Roma? What about promiscuous priests?

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    1. The gay generation of bishops fear contraception because it allows heterosexual priests have affairs without babies resulting (unlike a generation ago). They know now that they have needlessly gotten rid of fine heterosexual seminarians and in doing so caused a who fiasco of damage - scandals in seminary, gay-only clergy culture, alienation from 80% of people and empty pews...

      They should give contraception a go. Contraception would have made Eamon Casey a Cardinal.

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    2. 08:12 If your mother or father had used it we would have been spared the inane comment.

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    3. Who listens to such men as 'Bishop Phonsie'? The man is a clown in clerical garb.πŸ˜…

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    4. At 13.03, if you cannot reply to the comment you will attack the poster. Evidently you cannot argue with the logic.

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    5. Belfast Newsletter reader3 February 2018 at 14:14

      Is the Cork Examiner sold outside the Rebel City? It's certainly not available in Belcoo.

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    6. It is now called the Irish examiner

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    7. Belcoo wouldn't bother with a rag like that.

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    8. At 13:26 the argument was dealt with in the reply which you missed. Inane means empty. That says it all.

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    9. If Bishop Phonsie knows 'without doubt' the reason for promiscuity in Ireland, surely he must also know 'without doubt' the reason for all the promiscuity in the priesthood.

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    10. @18.16
      You are welcome to your subjective but inane opinion.

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  2. What a laughable comment, long winded but oh so embellished with distorted facts and statistics..Those you accuse of being haters of your blog are haters because we hate the distortions, the innuendo, the arrogant self righteousness, the lies. I feel I am a person of principle and integrity, so I will defend my faith and my church from its haters. For your years of supposedly radical, right living, I don't see vibrant communities that resemble the one I belong to in my parish. I think the bishop protesteth too much and has nothing creative or visionary to offer. You need to be a poet and a mystic to be a radical visionary. You are neither Pat, sadly.

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    1. Jesus was neither a poet,nor a mystic. I suppose he wasn't a 'radical visionary' either, then,πŸ˜†

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    2. 00:19, you 'feel that I am a person of principle and integrity'? πŸ˜… What monumentally smug self-regard! You taliban Catholics!😧

      Such a self-trumpeting characterisation isn't your call, dear; it is up to others to decide what you are. And this 'other' doesn't agree with your high opinion of yourself.

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    3. Magna @ 13.08: Typically ignorant comment. Probably you were up drinking - so in some small way I appreciate your nastiness. Whatever you say I will always be someone of greater integrity and principle than you will ever be! Call me smug but I know my qualities and virtues, thankfully. You remain a pitiable fool.

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    4. 15.31 I would also add to that list about MC - a loudmouth fool.

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    5. 15:31, you know your qualities and virtues? Well, you know, then, that humility isn't among them.πŸ˜†

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    6. You wouldn’t know what humility meant you total buffoon. Go and find a dictionary and look it up.

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  3. I don't know what to say. Your comment says it all. Perfectly.

    Now wait for the stones to be thrown.

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    1. Magna, 00.34: Jusr exactly what you want: someone to tease you so that you can behave in your normal, nasty, ignorant way. Good luck to you with such expectations. Yes, I believe Jesus was a visionary, poet and great story teller. That's why I never tire of reading the gospels.After 2000 years they still fascinate. We all see life very differently through the lens of the gospel narratives. You should try it. I believe you'd be a much better person, if apart from your learned insights into the gospels, you try to live their ideals.

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    2. Buckley and his “disciples” are always trying to draw comparisons between him and Our Lord where there are none.

      Our Blessed Lord is the Inspiration for mystics, poets and radical visionaries. It His Spirit that moves and enables them - helps them to see, animates them to action. Without Jesus, mystics, poets and visionaries would have nothing to be poetic, mystical and visionary about. To listen to that Magna Carta, you would think Our Lord was just one of their number when, in fact, He is their Master, Lord and Savior.

      Also, Pat Buckley claims that he loves the Catholic Faith. Where did this Faith come from - the Mass and the Sacraments and all?

      Those who sought to purify the Church also loved the Church. Pat Buckley is driven not by love but by hatred.

      There was never a time when all the sins and sinners of the world were not found in the Lord’s Church. He warned us about and He also tells us that He Himself will finally purify His Church at the end of the ages.

      Love rejoices not in iniquity. Pat Buckley and his minions rejoice with great glee in spreading rumours and scandals about others.

      Generally, enough muck is thrown to stick to someone’s character and then you will get the “can’t say anything more for legal reasons” excuse. But enough harm will already have been caused.

      Pat Buckley and his followers (who are very few) do not love the Catholic Faith. The institutional Church is also part of God’s Will for His People for the Body of Christ too (like the human body itself) requires organising.

      We can be rightly concerned to purify the institution of the Church and indeed we must - but, if Christ’s own love is not our motivation, we veer off into an extremely ugly and, in fact, demonic agenda.

      You protest too much, Pat Buckley. It is not Love that motivates you but hatred and a self righteousness that has made you drunk with your own pride. Quite like some of the other prelates you regularly excoriate and allow to be excoriated on your blog.

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    3. A comment full of pious excuses for doing nothing.

      Get behind me Satan!

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    4. What evidence, 08:51, can you provide that Jesus was a poet? (Er, your desire to think him such doesn't constitute evidence...except of imaginatively wishful thinking.πŸ˜†)

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    5. Pat at 12.25: Many times in light of your putrid, un-Christlike, gutter, nasty remarks, I say the same of you - "Get behind me satan". Imagine saying that of you!!But it's very apt because of the way you destroy the sacred memory of Christ!

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  4. Those two nice ladies are plainly not grenouilles de bΓ©nitier or they would be spreading malicious gossip.
    Bishop I'm very worried about the pretend Magna Carta because his therapy seems to have reached the difficult turning point when he knows he doesn't know what to say. We must all be specially nice to him and help him to the next point, where he also stops saying it.

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    1. Not at all - Father used enough lube last night

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    2. (Pat if my last comment was unpublishable please substitute this one lol)
      Not at all, my dear fan club. After all, it's only you who thinks other people should be sore when they've proved you wrong! It's a function of your inability to listen to anybody else.
      My function, otoh, is not to imitate you but to mirror you. Hence why you don't recognise me!

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    3. Yeah, you're still sore.πŸ˜…

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    4. I accept your apology. It's very sweet of you.

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  5. Not all catholic churches are bad. As you imply the Catholic Church has given me a great deal for which I must be thankful. From the start of the Bible the church and humanity has had imperfections and some nasty people and institutions. This is not an excuse. Following the example of the prophet and Jesus we are challenged to work for good.

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  6. Those "holy water hens" are our aunts and mothers, good and often saintly women, who deserve respect.

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    1. Well said, poster @ 7.55
      Were the holy women who gathered around the Cross at the Crucifixion "holy water hens" too? Why did Jesus tolerate them then? Pat would have put Him straight. Is that correct, Pat?

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    2. Only John's gospel has disciples around the cross and close enough for Jesus to be heard.

      John, as we've already discovered with Judas Iscariot and the Last Supper, wasn't bothered about historical truth too much and not beyond taking a little literary licence with the facts (a polite way of saying that he...ahem!...fibbed. But all in a good cause, of course!πŸ˜†)

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    3. Heresy from a buffoon John's Gospel is part of the Word of God and does not contain lies!
      Breathtaking arrogance.

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    4. The 'Word of God' is a misnomer, you illiterate fool! Yes, there is God's word there, but it's among so much chaff, the words of sick, sorry and SINFUL men.

      You're biblically self-taught, aren't you?πŸ˜†

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  7. Ok Pat, we get it, you don't like the Catholic Church of the Roman Rite. That's fair enough. Bash bash bash bash. Can you apply your massive intellect to other institutions such as the church of england, or islam? I doubt it.

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  8. I’m not anti Catholic, but I am anti Institution. For example, here in Lancaster, the previous Bishop sold the luxurious Bishop’s House to give some of the money away to the poor and the rest was spent on converting some offices by the Cathedral to be the new Bishop’s Apartment. I live closeby and it was a good job well done! The new Bishop comes along a couple of years later and decides that the newly refurbished apartments aren’t good enough, so he squanders hundreds of thousands of pounds on a new luxurious pad. Don’t get me wrong, of course our Bishops need a place to live, but up and down the Country we see millions upon millions of our money that we put into our collection baskets being swiped away by the outrageously high levies. What is wrong with some of the empty Presbyteries or other buildings that lay empty? Talking about Lancaster. Nice to see that our Bishop blogged that he managed a few days away in Tuscany this week to receive some new Nuns into the Sovereign King Order. Isn’t the Bishop of Tuscany free to work in his own patch? No doubt another expense picked up from the Church levy system along with the old Latin rite dress costs. So next time you think about putting money into the collection, just remember that up to 40p in the pound (depending on your local arrangements) is not spent on your own Parish! This is why I am anti Institution. PS Although Charity regulations say that accounts need to be published, it is interesting the none of the lower lever detail is ever released. We can’t possibly be allowed to find out what our money is being spent on now can we?

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    1. The Bishop of Lancaster is awaiting retirement very soon so it will be farewell, Sadly I don't agree that Bishop's should stay at Cathedral as they would never get a second with people at the door and be on 24/7.
      People think collections bring in a fortune they don't as people have not increased their donations.
      and some people don't even give a fiver for a mass maybe two pounds.

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    2. As you know fine rightly, POD in his selling the house said that he was not binding the hands of his successors and he decreed that a big proportion of the proceeds be retained by Lancaster diocese in case a new house was needed. POD lives very comfortably in a house, not an apartment, in his native Cloyne diocese.

      There's no church tax in the UK so put into the plate or not as you see fit.

      P.S. hope you sell your house to help the poor.

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  9. I’m sure the Bishop of Lancaster couldn’t afford to Pendle on what you are putting in the collection basket. You will always get people who always like to just moan.

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    1. Then bishops musn't give us reason to moan, must they?πŸ˜†

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    2. Sounds like a justified moan to me!

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    3. At least you didn’t have to consult Wikipedia for that answer Magna. Is this how you’ve planned your sad day ahead sitting with your tablet replying to most posters on the blog? Get a life! Then again, you don’t have one.

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    4. 14:16, why, I'm spending my day just like you, then!πŸ˜…πŸ˜†

      (Jeez! Do you morons ever engage the cognitive part of your brains before posting?)

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    5. Please 13.36 explain meaning of "to Pendle". I believe it to be a district in Lancashire with Nelson & Colne it's main towns.Thanks

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    6. 15.03 Maggie, pity you don't take your brain from between your legs!! You too, my dear demented one, speak a lot of nonsense and crap.

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    7. “Of to Pendle” was referring to a place not very far away. It was also a reference to the place where Pat and MC and others may have been burned in years gone by.

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    8. They'd burn us today if they could. The only obstacle to this is the Law, not of conscience, but of State.

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    9. You are so rotten to the core that your flesh would probably refuse to burn. A bonfire would be too good for you. I would suggest The Pear of Anguish instead.

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    10. You have a merciful nature, 20:40.

      Bless you.πŸ˜†

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  10. Pat, I'm wondering is there a danger of following Luther in crossing the line from anti corruption to anti catholic church. There is always the possibility that the Holy Spirit is still working with the catholic church to purify and heal. For instance, 'Many cardinals, many bishops and many priests are on the road to perdition and taking many souls with them' was attributed to Our Lady at Garabandal in the early 1960's yet she expected the visionaries to respect the regulations of the church in various ways. So, God knows the difficulties, he may allow the church to be seriously pruned but he seems to be still working with the catholic church. We also have the Jesus example asking people to obey the regulations of those in the chair of Moses even though some of those same prelates were going to have him killed. It's a fine line and we need to know where that line is. Regarding Holy Water, surely we need more people to be aware of its power not less.

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    1. You do point out a real danger.

      Luther went too far - in frustration though at the resistance he encountered.

      The Holy Spirit is THE Purifier.

      But he expects those of us who see wrong to speak up and challenge for change.

      I have no objection per se to holy water.

      But it is a sacramental and not magic.

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    2. Why do you believe that Luther was 'anti catholic church' (sic), 13:59?

      And how did he 'go too far'? (Whatever this means)

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    3. 13:59, you have 'proof-texted' the part of your post about the 'chair of Moses'. Jesus did not mean that the Jews should accept everything those in authority taught them. After all, he excoriated the Pharisees, publicly, for some of the traditions they sought to have others uphold.

      Jesus was well aware that those in authority could seriously abuse their positions of trust.

      As for Garabandal, Mary, the mother of Jesus, made no mention of accepting everything the Church taught. You made this up.

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    4. 13:59, 'the power of 'Holy Water'(sic)'???

      I said on another page of this blog that superstition, and Roman Catholicism, go hand in hand. And boy! Was I right?

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    5. I always sprinkle holy water on copies of the Tablet on sale at the back of any churches I visit.

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    6. Magna’s back on the sauce and the old Wikipedia at the same time.

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    7. How did Luther go too far? He retained the use of Latin to some degree. Lutheran Latin Liturgical texts from that time can still be found online. There was even a Lutheran Cistercian monastery. I don’t think he had his churches deprived of art work. Indeed I often find it pleasant to look at older Lutheran churches in Sweden, Denmark and Norway.

      (As an aside who can forget the irascible Lutheran minister, Mr. Vig, and his interactions with the indomitable Russian nun as he sought to create an Orthodox monastery out of his rambling manor house? In the end she prevailed and ushered him into the arms of the other one true church.)

      Seraphim

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  11. The Irish College seminary sauna, apparently.

    https://i.ytimg.com/vi/IdcZNFVp-bY/hqdefault.jpg

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  12. The Church and its parishes are charities, governed by the respective charity law and regulations in their respective countries. That means that they have to have their account publicly available. You can certainly get to see the published accounts of a diocese, But, even in the case of each parish, there should be some form of published accounts made available as well, and with just a little forensic insight it should be possible to work out what the money is being spent on. Different diocese in different countries have different way of paying clergy - for some its by a salary, for others by a stipend with additional sources of income for the upkeep of the clergy. I do wish it was consistent, but it appears not to be. I would make it so much easier if, as in most Church of Ireland or Church of England parishes, the clergy were paid a salary by the church centrally, and lived off that, perhaps with a house thrown in, and everything else was managed by the parish council, only one of whose members was the priest. That would mean everything was above board and there would be little room for confusion or ambiguity. As it is at the moment, there is so much ambiguity, and so many grey areas and opportunity for obfuscation, and so many opportunities for money to be used inappropriately. A system of good governance and oversight is required, with accountability for how money is used.

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    1. I am surprised Magna wasn't able to tell us chapter and verse the number of times that water is referred to in both the Old and New Testaments with reference to it being used as an outward symbol(often by Christ, Himself) of Purification and with reference to its life giving qualities.
      There's not a hint of a suggestion of magic or superstition! A miracle .. yes.
      But perhaps Wikipedia doesn't do this topic and Magna couldn't cope. .

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    2. The Old and New Testaments refer to other things beside, but in a non-literal way.

      You're not familiar with biblical literacy, are you?

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    3. How dare you criticise my scholarship. It doesn't come from Wikipedia at all, but from a Petit Larousse IllustrΓ© which I bought in Le Touquet in 1954. It's hard going, but Google does a great job of translating for me.
      Actually I've found another example of superstition:
      https://bishopcampbellsblog.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/dom.jpg
      At the bishop's waist you can see the key part of his vesture, the little black box which Roman Catholics call the thummin. They believe it contains all knowledge and refer to the red light as the eye of God. It must be kept illuminated at all times. The wire leaving the box enter's the bishop's brain through a hole bored in his head at consecration, and dictates his letters to him.
      How superstitious can you get?

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    4. Are you sure it is called a "thummin"
      Everybody here assures me that anything vague like that should be called a "thingummy".

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    5. Are you sure it is called a "thummin"
      Everybody here assures me that anything vague like that should be called a "thingummy".

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  13. I am very glad of this opportunity to correct one particularly malicious rumour spread about me on this blog, which is that the bottles I used to put outside my door in the seminary were in any way connected with alcohol. A few contained orange squash, but the majority contained holy water which I used to sprinkle liberally on my pet toads to stop them getting warts. That and my verrucae (the fake Magna Carta would write 'verrucas') accounted for my heavy usage.

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    1. You must be old (and old school) to be using that form of plural for 'verruca', Faux Magna.πŸ˜†

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    2. I had never heard of orange juice as a cure for rubbing into your verruca! You learn something new every day!

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    3. They were empty holy water bottles.

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  14. Magna.. You have a typo .. You wrote "toads" instead of your "toes". The problem with warts....

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    1. That's not Magna; it's Faux Magna. (And not a good faux either.πŸ˜†)

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    2. I blame a typo every time I show my ignorance. Like trying to get compos and mentis to agree by putting compos mentos. Phew think I got away with that one!

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  15. I met a man as white as a ghost,
    With a smile so b’witching,
    How was I supposed to Know,
    He had killed the cat in the kitchen.

    La la la la la la la la la

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  16. The two idiotic magnas are utter fools.They are destroying this already damaged blog. Their attempt at humour borders on pornographic. Disgusting comments from these two childish and immature morons. Pat, cop on.... get rid of them.

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  17. https://bishopcampbellsblog.files.wordpress.com/2017/11/dom.jpg
    At the bishop's waist you can see the key part of his vesture, the little black box which Roman Catholics call the thummin. They believe it contains all knowledge and refer to the red light as the eye of God. It must be kept illuminated at all times. The wire leaving the box enter's the bishop's brain through a hole bored in his head at consecration, and dictates his letters to him.

    Now, that made me laugh.

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    1. Paul how does it feel to be excommunicated? Genuine question.

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    2. I tbink it must be incredibly sad to be born into the Church but then face the prospect of taking the legacy of excommunication into Eternity So sad, no matter what gloss is put on it.

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  18. Very few are born a poet,
    The problem is that they don't know it!

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  19. Whatever you are PB, you are not an historian. The Crusades were defensive against the ISIS of their day. Ever heard of the Battles of Lepanto or Vienna, later in the Islamic encroachment of Europe? As for the Inquisition, just check out the BBC's take (hardly a friend of Catholicism), non-Catholic historians conclude that the tribunals were models of judicial fairness for their time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY-pS6iLFuc&t=1789s

    You are an ill-educated anti-Catholic propagandist to whom no lie is too great so long as more people hate the Church.

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  20. This terrible 'institution' has produced the greatest of saints. Think of Francis, in whose time things were arguably worse (Jesus told him to re-build his Church - Francis a humble layman), consider John Vianney, Padre Pio, the two little saints of Fatima, Bernadette, Maximillian Kolbe, Edith Stein and so many more. No other 'institution' has produced people like this, Satan's friends think that they run the show but history proves that they are always wrong.

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