Tuesday, 13 February 2018

US PRIEST WHO LEFT TO MARRY SPEAKS 





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I think that this is a very interesting and thought-provoking interview by Father Albert Cutie - showing the nonsense imposed celibacy is especially in this 21st century.

It is particularly a nonsense since the Vatican has allowed hundreds of Protestant ministers to convert to Roman Catholicism ordained and become parish priests in presbyteries accompanied by their wives and children.

In fact, a number of years ago I celebrated the wedding of a Birmingham parish priest in his late 30's who fell in love and wanted to marry.

The Church insisted that he had to leave the priesthood.

The replacement parish priest, an ex Anglican, arrived to replace him with a wife and 4 children!!!

So it seems that the RC Church is willing to do for "strangers" that it is not willing to do for its own Catholic born ministers.

It's also stupid when the seminaries and the priesthood are emptying - and some of those who are studying and serving are promiscuous homosexuals who laugh at the celibacy rule.

The Catholic priesthood would be much better with a large contingent of heterosexual and married men.

Watch Father Cutie and tell me what you think.

135 comments:

  1. Mr A. Cutie had many chances to close the door to temptation. Instead he chose the temptation. How silly of him to try and justify his decisions by hiding behind other peoples' hypocrisy and then indulging in the same hypocrisy himself. The media and its followers will give him plenty of coverage. If he wanted sex, a love affair or a wife, he should have left the catholic priesthood.

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    1. No. He knows that clerical celibacy is in a state of flux in the Western church and that the pattern of the first nine centuries, at least, is recurring. (A certain Anastasiis was accused of the murder of the wife of Pope Adrian II [867-872].)

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    2. Sure what would we do without celibacy and our caste of castrated eunuchs about whose illicit sexual lives we can speculate and gossip?

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    3. 8.41, the 'state of flux' has only been created by people wanting their cake and eating it.

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    4. 13:26 Yes. It’s called progress. As when 95+% of Roman Catholics began to use ‘artificial’ contraception.

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    5. They can offer their excuses to St Peter at the Pearly Gates.

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    6. Would that be the St. Peter who was married?

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    7. 95% of RC's using 'art contraception'! You have been well poisoned if you honestly think that is progress. It seems part of a tragic scenario where so many believe that if the great majority want it then its progress, but it could easily be the majority moving away from the true teaching.

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    8. How do you, prick, know that this man, Cutie, had many chances? Were you constantly with him? (Asshole)😆

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    9. We all get many chances, Magna, you too. You're undermining Pat's blog. He should have the guts to block your hatred completely.

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    10. Theologians and church historians have a word for the degree to which a teaching has been accepted by the faithful. It’s called reception. In the case of artificial contraception 5% support must make it one of the lowest in 2,000 years. Catholics have voted with their feet.

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    11. St Peter may have been a widower. Didn't Jesus tell him to lay down his net's and tell him and the others that anyone who put wife and family before Him was unworthy to follow Him?

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    12. The apostrophe in nets is the fault of autocorrect, which is often incorrect.

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    13. O5:41 are you familiar with this unsettling verse?

      http://biblehub.com/matthew/7-13.htm

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  2. Personally, I think we're all getting tired of these stories. Good luck to him. I admire the many good priests who remain faithful to their vow of celibacy - often with great struggle - but who never look for acclaim, publicity or glory. They live out their commitment generously. I know two priests in their mid 80's and who are still working fulltime. One in particular is always visiting the sick at home and in hospital. He's an inspiration, the other is equally dedicated to his duties. Both are appreciated by everyone. They deserve our gratitude. Their celibacy feees and allows them to be totally available to others. On the other hand, men like the priest in your story find celibacy impossible and now as a married man seems a happy, fulfilled and contented. We need to give men the option. I know many men who left priesthood for marriage. Many of them would be wonderful as priests in our communities. The dialogue for reform of celibacy requirement must happen soon.

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  3. Fr. Cutie (already a media star on US Catholic TV channels) was spotted 'canoodling' with his girlfriend on a beach and was reported to the Bishop. He could have bravely announced his intention to leave the active priesthood when he found the burden of celibacy too great but waited until he was found out and was asked to do so.

    He became an Episcopalian 'priest' to very great fanfare and publicity - nationwide pictures of smiling 'bishop' and smiling Cutie and smiling wife and smiling child of her first (and only real) marriage as he adopted the US version of Anglicanism. The Catholic bishop pointed out that the several Episcopalian priests who had converted to Catholicism had been received discreetly and without publicity and he had not invited local TV stations and press to report their adoption of the faith. He also pointed out that he had given the Episcopalian 'bishop' the courtesy of a call to inform him of conversions by his clergy but had received absolutely no such contact about Cutie who just 'disappeared' from the Catholic radar. But the 'band played on' and the publicity went into overdrive with the 'bishop' saying that Cutie had not left the Catholic church but only the Roman variety of it! He wishes!
    Cutie is however a determined and long time critic of Pope Francis (bless him for that) and has denounced the Pope for (among other things) talking only about the shortcomings of capitalism while totally ignoring the barbarity of Communist regimes. So he's not all bad.

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    1. @ 01:01 What a nastly little piece of commentary yours is. At least be consistent in your bigotry - and your use of quotation marks to disparage.
      You (and we) would have been better off if you had gone to sleep earlier.

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    2. I agree. Putting "priest" in quote marks is a mark of the direst sectarian bigotry.

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    3. 01:01 is a 'traddie'. It's an affliction, I'm afraid, for which there is no cure.

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    4. Don't worry , you won't catch it...

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    5. That's true, 18:06. I was immunized against it...with a healthy concoction of humility, and common sense.😆

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    6. Oh do try to get with the programme Mags. Of course Trad Catholics know he's a priest. Honestly, dear.

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    7. Humility and common sense! Ha! Anyone who claims humility is admitting to a total lack of it. @ 8:48 - Woke up in a bad mood did we? I am a Catholic and proud of it, I subscribe to the Catechism and am not a pseudo Anglican who believes anything he likes as you people seem to be.

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    8. 19:11, you subscribe to the Catechism? What! All of it? So you don't accept that human life is sacred, then? Because the Catechism morally endorses the death penalty.😆

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    9. Why are you obsessed with the death penalty? Apart from a few every year in a few US states isn't it mostly an Islamic thing held outdoors before baying crowds?

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    10. The Catechism says "Fifth, thou shalt not kill"
      You can't have read it properly, Magna Blue.

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  4. Pat could you please settle a bet? The new nuncio (whatever his name is) said during a speech in Galway at the weekend that he worked in journalism before he became bishop. He maintains that journalists always go after bad news and bad news makes it to the papers. But Pat, there's great news in MEATH and it will surely make the Six One News. The Pilgrimage led by Fr Gerry McCormack, Sr Consillio Rock and Fr Dwayne Gavin to the Holy Land at Easter has SOLD OUT. Last week or the week before - according to the parish bulletin in Kingscourt - there were two places left. Now a waiting list applies. Sure, it's a small miracle. Pat, did you subscribe? Are you going? Is Pat Relihan going?

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    1. God bless the people of Meath and I hope they enjoy and benefit from the wonderful experience of the pilgrimage.

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    2. 3.23: You should have made efforts to sleep than pen this utterly mesningless piece of commentary. Your stupid question asking if Pat is going to the Holy Land is silly. That would be like putting lucifer among the angels.....

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    3. That’s actually where Lucifer originated.

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    4. I'd bet that none of the priests/religious 'leading' this pilgrimmage will be paying their own way. Spongers.

      Why do moronic lay Catholics feel the need of a priest/sponger to 'lead' them? (Jeez! I've already answered my question: they're 'moronic'.😆)

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    5. 13.44, why do you say that? I would think Pat is well balanced to enjoy and contribute to any Holy Land visit with any type of group under the sun.

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    6. More to the point, where would Magna be without his favourite word "moronic"? - - Severely restricted in vocabulary I suppose, poor thing .

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  5. Even if the Catholic church accepted married men before and after ordination, they would still expect single priests and seminarians to remain maids until Mr Right came along.

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    1. And rightly so! - -

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  6. "The Catholic priesthood would be much better with a large contingent of heterosexual and married men."

    I wholeheartedly support your campaign. AC/DC PP D&C.

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    1. Don’t hold your breath, AC/DC PP, the only “large contingent of heterosexual and married men" will continue to be found at the Giant’s Ring, not the priesthood.

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    2. The Giant's Ring is cold and desert

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    3. But the car park is hot to trot.

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    4. Not as hot as the gas works at Mount Stewart opposite the entrance to the estate. It's got a car park and the walls of the gas works provide good privacy. That's where the Co Down priests socialise.

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    5. I once saw a county Down priest in the Pipeworks sauna in Belfast. He was fully engaged in strange goings on.

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    6. Ugh! I will never walk my labrador there again. She is a decent dog.. choosy though!

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    7. They also socialise in the car park at Killynether Wood, near Scrabo Tower. I hope that's not one of your walking spots as well.

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    8. And at the car park at the Somme Heritage Centre. It's all go in Downshire.

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    9. 15.03 - And what strange goings on were you engaged in? Tell us. Be a man or be a sissy.

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    10. I was working there as an agency worker. I only lasted four days, it was the worst job I've ever had, it was like the end of the world. I recognised him from Maynooth.

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  7. 00.26 Temptation has nothing to do with it. It's about being human and appropriately expressing ones sexuality. Pat interesting to compare and contrast how things have changed since my day. Also point about married Anglican priests in RC Church

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    1. 'Temptation has nothing to with it' - what planet are you living on?

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  8. In my diocese there would be far fewer priests if it wasn’t for the fact that quite a few of them are having their “ bit on the side”. Both homo and hetro,
    Some of them I know and they are good hard working priests.

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    1. ... but mostly homo I imagine.

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    2. 8.32 Perhaps you are right but bits on the side does the church, society and the mental health of those involved no favours

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    3. They may be hardworking but they are not fulfilling the obligations of their vocation.

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  9. Albert is defo a cutie alright. Ummm......

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    1. His baby daughter is a beautiful little angel in the photo. He is just a flashy chancer who had to come clean when his pictures were in the paper. Now he is enjoying celebrity status (--but not in my eyes)

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    2. 14.06: you are right - Fr. Cutie wanted everything - and he got it but only after he was discovered by the paparazzi. Otherwise he'd have continued his deceitful, hypocritical behaviour and it appears he is now an icon! Not for me. What a crazy world of values!!

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    3. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I thought that the wee girl was from a previous family broken up by Fr Cutie.

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    4. Watch the video enclosed in the blog at the beginning of today's blog.

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  10. Now down to serious matters! What about candidates for the Achonry terna?

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    1. 1. Fr Cutie

      2. Gerry Adams

      3. Fr Z

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      That would definitely be a signs that the Apocalypse was nigh!!

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    3. How many parishes does Achonry have? Another micro diocese?

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  11. Fr Albert acknowledged that he broke his promise of celibacy but says, rightly, that people change. However, if this could be used as justification for breaking a promise then no commitment would be immune. There are doubtless some who wish to be free of marriage promises made years ago, but stick to them because they accept they gave a binding commitment for all time. The commercial world is awash with businessmen who would dearly love to be released from contractual commitments that have not worked out to their advantage. But the principle that a contract must be honoured and performed is timeless, and is at the root of a democratic society. Likewise commitments given to the Church at ordination or marriage are at the root of what the Church represents. It is a different issue as to whether the commitment to celibacy should be expected of future priests. The mission of the Church is service. If it cannot find sufficient harvesters willing to accept celibacy then it may be compelled to release this requirement, and leave the decision to marry or be celibate to individual candidates for ordination. Members of the Church would then have to render additional financial contributions to support a married priesthood because clerical salaries would appear at their current level to be insufficient to support a non-working wife and children. Are the Faithful willing to increase their financial contributions to facilitate a non-celibate priesthood?

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    1. Ideological clap-trap 11:24. And scraping the bottom of the barrell not to have the discipline changed.
      By non-working you mean not in paid employment outside the home. Why should priests’ wives be expected to fit into this category? Look at the situation of wives of Cof I bishops and priests.
      Very Opus Dei sounding!

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    2. There is also the question of when a married priest would retire and the presbytery would need to be vacated for the new priest coming in .. Would the wife and family suddenly be homeless? For that matter, would the wife -and children be uprooted from schools where they were settled and happy when the bishop announced the 5yr clercical changes? There would be many new issues thrown up.

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    3. All of your straw-men objections have been handled in the first mellennium.

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    4. Clerical celibacy has been around since Apostolic times. Even Jesus recommended it.

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    5. 17:18, no he didn't, you biblical philistine.😆

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    6. Jesus recommended nothing clerical. The word would have been an anachronism in the firdt Century.

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  12. We should all adopt a more pastoral approach to such issues.
    Sr. Mary

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    1. "Pastoral" usually means the awkward moments following a bj for most priests and seminarians.

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    2. 12.19: Another idiotic moron. A comment from somone who is evidently uneducated. That doesn't justify your offensive, ignorant and hateful words. I suggest you go back to school and learn something worthwhile that will help you discover virtues that might move you out of your ignorance...And Pat is wrong to support such ignorance.

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    3. @12:19 Yes I agree you are a first class twat. You are someone that answers a comment with sexualising it and concentrating on sexual practices - you are perverted. I’m not surprised because this blog today has allowed an open discussion not on the subject of Celibacy but on sex and where men meet in Co. Down for sex!! I believe Pat is continually obsessed with gay sex on this blog.

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    4. It was about where priests meet other priests or where they meet laymen, even Protestants. What's wrong with companionship?

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    5. I am very lucky to have lots of companionship in my life and every bit if it is innocent and above board. I am not the only one who can claim that. If I didn't make an effort, I would be lonely but who needs the Giant's Ring!

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  13. Fr Cutie must have been beating the raging queens off in the seminary, he's a fine specimen of humanity. Its a pity the catholic church lost him because of a silly anachronistic rule about celibacy.
    I think it was the great Karl Rahner who once said "I am a priest by vocation. I am a celibate by canonical legislation." It's time they woke up and smelled the coffee.

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    1. Huh--coffee time is well and truly over long ago, mate

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    2. That old heretic Rahner put it about a bit. He was in a three way love triangle involving an Abbot and a many-married woman. Lol

      http://natcath.org/NCR_Online/archives2/1997d/121997/121997a.htm

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    3. Just think Rahner was in love with that dame, but not putting it about a bit.

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    4. Oh God that love triangle is dreary beyond belief. I do love the way she addressed him as Fish though!

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    5. Could you imagine fish as a term of endearment?

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    6. I know, imagine being called fish as a term of endearment.

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    7. My missus always uses fish as a way to address me "You're a bloody cod, you are!" she shrieks when I come in and tell her I left her shopping on the bus .. True love oxo

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    8. My wife occasionally asks for a fish finger.

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  14. I'm sorry Pat.As much as I love you I have decided to give up reading this blog for Lent as I don't think that it is suitable "spiritual reading" for the holy season. God bless .

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  15. Congratulations and best wishes to the Rt Rev Michael Campbell, Emeritus Bishop of Lancaster and pro tem Diocesean Administrator on a job well done in the North West. Maybe now Pat he could move back to Larne and help you build up the Oratory Society in his retirement.

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  16. Evidence shows Pope Francis is a ‘principal in a cover-up’ of clergy sex-abuse in Chile: Expert

    Those familiar with Jorge Bergoglio in Argentina before he became Pope Francis say it is a “classic” move of his to provide “mercy” to clergy who are sexual predators while asking everybody else to simply “move on,” said attorney and child advocate Elizabeth Yore on an EWTN show last week.

    “I think this is a misplaced mercy. It is mercy for the predator priests,” she told EWTN’s Raymond Arroyo on the February 8 episode of World Over.

    “There are many people who know the Pope from Argentina who have said this is classic Bergoglio to provide mercy to the predators and ask everybody else to move on,” she added. (See original The World Over program segment on this issue that begins at 47 seconds into the video below)

    Yore, who has handled child abuse investigations and clergy abuse investigations throughout her legal career, was commenting on the latest sexual abuse case to touch the Francis papacy, in this case where the Pope appointed a bishop with a history of complicity in child sex abuse. The Pope’s claim that he had never received any victim testimony regarding the complicity of Chilean Bishop Juan Barros in child sex abuse has proven to be false.

    “The Barros case is putting the Pope, for the first time, in the middle as a principal in a cover-up,” Yore said during the interview.

    Yore said that not only is it now known that the Pope received a letter from one of the victims, but it is also now known that he was “told from the moment he appointed Bishop Barros in 2015 that this was a bad decision.”

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    1. You should ready yourself for abuse and denials from the Francis worshippers who lurk on this blog.

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      "Francis worshippers who lurk"!??
      Your unfortunate use of such pejorative language is very unacceptable and reveals where your prejudices lie. So that renders your opinions if you ever had any,
      biased and not to be taken seriously.

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    3. Yes 14:55. They balance the Francis demonizers like yourself.

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    4. He has a lot to be demonised about.

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    5. Who are you to judge, 14:55?

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    6. The illegitimate Magna Carta still has a portrait of Pio Nono above the tiled fireplace in his front room.

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    7. I do indeed, Faux Magna. And I throw darts at it.😆

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    8. I know of no Catholic households which lacked the Pio Nono or the John XXIII/JFK/Paul VI triptych. Too bad that two of the three were a bit fast and loose morally.

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    9. Is there at least one double negative in that comment? I'm too tired to work it out.

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  17. Winter Olympic boss, Dominic McAleenan, reveals Fr Malachy Finnegan physical abuse.

    Another sickening story associated with the Catholic church in Ireland.

    www.irishnews.com/news/2018/02/13/news/winter-olympic-boss-reveals-fr-malachy-finnegan-physical-abuse-1254520/

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  18. Who was the priest whom Benedict had punished, then Francis brought the priest back only for the priest to offend again?

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  19. Anyone in England know what happened with Fr Patrick Bailey of Northampton diocese who was charged in March 2017 with the usual offences. Pat mentioned it at the time but nothing seems to happened since his appearance at court in Luton last March.

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    1. I was a parishioner of his in Chesham. He refused to retire despite being well into his eighties. He was an a total liberal.

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    2. He has retired and living in an unknown location.

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  20. Pat, is this the night of the Spotlight programme about fr Finnegan. My nerves are jangling. I’ll need to go up to big lily for a wee valium

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    1. 16.43 - Go up to big lily and take, not just a valium but also a large glass of " cop on"..sheer idiot that you are.

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    2. You'd better be quick. There's a queue halfway down Prince Albert St and big lilly needs to keep back three for herself.

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    3. An' if y' doo, she-ill nat giv' y'annie. Sh' needs thim irself t'cope wi' thon psychotic episodes shiz prone to.

      Thon woman's nat wise, so shiz nat.

      MAGGIE CARTA (Magna's ma)

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    4. Maggie Blue, don’t give up your day job (oh that’s right you haven’t got one).

      Anyhoo honytonks, comedy ain’t your strong point.

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    5. Homeowner at 9 Prince Albert St13 February 2018 at 20:10

      She's bad with the nerves, may God be good to her, she doesn't be well.

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    6. Magna 17.53. Give us a rational, intelligent explanation for your self degradation on this site today. It's very sad that you are behaving this way. You are not funny, clever or witty. And, you should take my advice and that of others - see a psychiatrist / psychotherapist or counsellor before you really self destruct. We are witnessing your inevitable implosion. Who will pick up the pieces of your life? Just concerned for your well being....

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    7. Of course you are...as I am for yours😆

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    8. 'A rational and intelligent explanation...'22:18? But you 'do' neither 'rational' nor 'intelligent'. So what's the point?😆😆😆

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    9. Maggie Carta (thon aul beg) @ 17:53, listen yew, many’s a night ya were glad of a wee roche 5 affa Big Lily when thon waster of a son of yours, than Magna boyo, went berserk and was wreckin yer house in a drunken rage when his boyfriend was cheating on him again.

      So shut yer bake or it’ll be shut fer ye. Put yer windys in so a will. Wouldn’t be the first time. Yer windys is more often boarded up than the has glass in them on account thon drunken scut of a son of yours.

      Ya should have him committed. He has this wee street tormented. The Big Dean used to be able til handle him. He was ascared of the Big Dean. But nigh he’s runnin amok. I’ll get the Provies fer him I’m tellin ye!

      Maggie Maneegin (Monaghan)
      Big Lily’s wee chum and neighbour.

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    10. Maggot Carta: 23 41: You are burying yourself in your own vomit at this stage. You haven't answered my question requesting you to give a rational and intelligent explanation for your bizarre, schizophrenic behaviour on recent comnents. You are degrading yourself. You are losing any self respect you have. You must be deep in isolation and misery. Thus, the advice - see a psychotherapist. He/ she will help you unravel your crazy mind. It would be a good Lenten project for you!! Or take a retreat in Cuan Mhuire....

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  21. That's Fr Mauro Inzoli, yet another blot on Francis's record.

    http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2017/02/27/pope-reduces-sanctions-against-some-paedophile-priests/

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    1. It's a sign of the times that the Catholic Herald is able to publish an article stating that when it comes to the usual issue Francis is not part of the problem but that rather he is the problem.

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    2. Did you mean this article?

      http://catholicherald.co.uk/commentandblogs/2018/02/10/the-bishop-barros-crisis-how-bad-is-it/

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    3. There’ll always be people like you to bad mouth Francis.

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    4. He's the humblest Pope ever but please don't mention it. He ticked X in the no publicity box.

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  22. Spotlight Tuesday is here.

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    1. Required viewing in the palace in Newry.

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    2. Spotlight may not run this story tonight I’m told as more info has come to light and needs to be investigated. They were in Newry outside Dromore Cathedral at the weekend asking parishioners what they thought of McAreaveys letter that was read out. Of course a lot of the patsies didn’t want to comment. So it’s all still in the editing stage.

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  23. Please may I ask the more devout here to say a few Paters and Aves that I win the Euromillions tonight? There's a cool £121m up for grabs. With that I could clear my debts and use the remaining £50k for plastic surgery on my face and body.

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    1. Well I didn't win. Thanks a lot. Not.

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  24. In the case of Cutie it's good riddance to bad rubbish.

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  25. "... some of those who are studying and serving are promiscuous homosexuals who laugh at the celibacy rule."

    Everybody else laughs at it, so why shouldn't they.

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux9YdDee2DY

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  26. Spotlight programme about Dromore is going ahead tonight at 10.40pm.

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  27. So Mc Areavy knew all about the paedo when he did his funeral
    He knew from 1994.
    I hate these holy men who cover up sexual sin

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  28. O M G those poor boys ruined for life

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  29. Wh**re ROMAN CATHOLIC PRIESTS! WHy, WHY, do useless ELDERLY Catholics feel the need to support, financially, these fuckin' priest VERMIN!

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    1. Magna Blue, ring your doctor and make an appointment urgently.. You are having a serious relapse..

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    2. 00.29 Magna: Says it all about you. Obnoxious. A clear case of incitement to hatred. Pat, you are very morally misguided to entertain this hate filled, racist, bigot and offensive individual.

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  30. Why are you calling me useless Magna?
    And I only give the bare minimum.
    Can believe that a so called holy priest would cause an11 year old boy to masturbate..what an evil , evil man.

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