Thursday, 8 February 2018

WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ARE THEY?


MY VIEW


SINCE I TOLD READERS THAT I WAS SPENDING THIS WEEK WITH MY BROTHER AND HIS FAMILY IN GRAN CANARIA I HAVE HAD THE WEIRDEST COMMENTS - WHICH I HAVE NOT PUBLISHED.

They seem to come mainly from priests, suggesting that I am spending my whole week in gay saunas and on nudist gay beaches!

In my whole life I have never been in such a sauna on on such a beach.

Why do these people think that everyone indulges in the holidays they indulge in?

I have spent the week in the company of family and friends seeing historical sights such as the cathedral of Saint Ann in Las Palmas and the house (now a museum) where Christopher Columbus stayed before sailing to discover the West Indies. 

I have been for walks along volcanic cliff edges and through lovely villages, towns and harbours.

We have gone out for meals together and last night I cooked a meal in.

We have had a beer on the apartment veranda in the sun and a glass of wine with our food and indeed a nightcap.

Yesterday I had a deep tissue massage for an hour at the hands of a Cuban lady masseuse which was thoroughly de-stressing and cost Euro 40.

In the coming days we will visit a vineyard, have a birthday meal for one of the family and maybe visit a water park.

Since I came here on Sunday I have not seen any signs of saunas or nudist beaches anywhere.

Where we are staying is populated mainly by Scandanavian retirees who like the sun and relaxation.

I would be absolutely put off by loud bars  and clubs, throbbing discos or tourists drinking and throwing up in the street. I am sure that this is in keeping with a man in his 60s?

Why would anyone, except wild young folk who are sowing their wild oats, want to spend a holiday drinking and vomiting. I cant think of nothing worse.

Why a priest would want to go abroad for booze, sex and nudist gay beaches also eludes me.

I am in no way a prude. But surely any mature person wants true relaxation and the company of people who like and love them?

Why would anyone mature want a holiday that would exhaust them physically  emotionally, mentally, etc and in need of another holiday to recover?

And why are priests and others sending me crazy messages on here about debauchery and gay saunas and beaches?

As the add for a well known Dublin bread says:

THE WORLD IS IN A STATE OF CHASIS!!!


115 comments:

  1. I think Pat protests too much. Feeling guilty are we?

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  2. 'The world is in a state of chassis.' Apparently, it always has been, at least in the time of 'Strumpet City', that wonderfully 'Dub' novel by Joseph Plunkett.

    Was it Rashers Tierney, one of the novel's characters, who said that of the world? Don't remember. But I do recall that there were dysfunctional priests in Plunkett's story, too.

    Everything changes and nothing changes.

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  3. How are ye, girls?

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    1. Sorry, but can you broaden your vocabulary a bit? It'll help you think outside that conceptual box you're trapped in. You might even be interesting,😆

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  4. You should keep your business and travels to yoursef Pat. No one is interested really, so you should just ignore the cranky, silly comments and enjoy your break. I don't agree with your world view, your theology or spirituality, but you are entitled to a break. Your mistake - telling the whole world - it was bound to invite weird comments. Why would any of us want to share news about our holiday destinations with others except with those who truly care! Holidays are for relaxation and reflection. We hope we arrive back refreshed and restored in spirit. And - hopefully too - return as a better person!

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    1. Pat at 10 32. But we're not interested in your "every moment" diary. That's what teenagers do!! Just stay away and relax....

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    2. Pat, happy to hear about your travels. Glad you are enjoying it. I believe the father of Christopher Columbus once wrote in his diary that one of the most interesting things he ever saw was in Galway. A small boat washed up with two bodies in it. Both the ethnic origin of the bodies and their dress were unknown at the time and fuelled the possibility that there were other lands to be discovered.

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  5. Read back what you have written Pat. Really? Servant of Christ? Lounging on holiday?

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    1. Even Jesus too breaks and made and drank wine!

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  6. Pat enjoy your holiday away with your kin, ignore the fools who have nothing positive to say, in truth they really are only jealous!
    Molly

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  7. Pat, I am glad you are enjoying your holiday. Incidentally that quote "The world is in a state of chassis" (which was used in the ad.)is said more than once by the character Captain Boyle in Sean O'Casey's play "Juno and the Paycock" which I like!

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  8. You seem to make claims that cannot be supported by any evidence:
    1. that all the people posting comments are priests - you have no real way of know who posted anything
    2. On the assumption that it is priests who are posting you claim that they are all taking holidays at gay saunas, which is simply an ad hominem attack against those who criticize you, and again something you could not possibly have any evidence of - i.e. the holiday destination of anonymous posters on your blog.

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    1. I KNOW many of the priests who holiday in gay destinations.

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    2. Did this knowledge of those priests ever make you feel like throwing in the towel? That priesthood was hypocritical and pointless?

      Or did it make you bind yourself to Christ more tightly?

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    3. I am 42 years ordained this year and thank God I have never felt like throwing in the towel - ever.

      I put this down 100% to God's grace and not to any virtue of my own.

      When Jesus asked Peter if he was going to leave him, Peter replied:

      Lord, to whom could we go.

      I say the same.

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    4. Knowing of many priests who holiday in “gay destinations” and knowing where anonymous posters on your blog spend their holidays are two different things. Again, you have no evidence to support your claim.

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    5. WHAT do you want? Tests of body fluids???

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    6. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to hope that you would have supportable evidence for the things you assert. As yet, you have provided no evidence to support the two claims you made - that the posters criticising you were priests, and that those posters holiday in “gay destinations.” If you can supply substantial evidence that either of those claims are true then I will happily say you were right.

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    7. One can have certain knowledge without having photographs, copies of credit card accounts etc.

      Many such priests proudly boast about their exploits.

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    8. People's credit card details are strictly private. You must not try to gain access to them. Always act well within the law .

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    9. To clarify, I’m not disputing that you may know such priests. I’m disputing the claims that you know that such priests were the people who criticised you for your holiday, and that you could know where anonymous posters spend their holidays. Providing evidence that you know priests who holiday in such destinations is not evidence that you know who it was that was criticising you or where those critics spend their holidays.

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    10. Indeed Pat - at 14.23 - one can have certain knowledge - based on hearsay and gossip. Prove the judgments you make. It's your trademark to engage in scurrilous gossip. Let's have verifiable facts, not innuendo. The fact that you are "out" doesn't give you the moral right to judge others. Never.

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    11. Oi! Assholes at 14:31 and 14:44! I know, for certain, that Jesus is God, but I can't prove this. However, the certainty of my christology remains.😆

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    12. The clergy defenders and enablers are out today.

      There people are co-abusers and co-conspirators.

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    13. @14:59, the inability to provide empirical proof in that case is the essence of faith. However, in the earthly realm there is either evidence to support a claim or there is not. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to ask about the evidence that claims are based on.

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    14. Magna Carta the Priesthood was pointless for you because you got thrown out and your bitterness of that decision hasn’t gone away you know.

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    15. What on earth is it with you, poster @ 15.05?
      You cannot simply come on to Pat's blog. make a useful point and leave it at that.. No. you always feel obliged to criticise and attack other readers and accuse them in some way. Once your posts become clearly identifiable (as always in the same language and whining vein)
      it becomes very difficult to take anything you say seriously.
      (It can happen, as a few others also found to their detriment.)

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    16. Magna at 14.59....You respond as another asshole - but by far you are the biggest one on this site! And crap is all you produce...

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    17. 18:48 Well said. Here! Here!
      Furthermore the idiotic post can fin no argument except to bandy around the charge of abuser - and not without misspelling a word that a nine-year old would spell correctly.

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  9. Seems a missed opportunity for +Pat to nude hunt local saunas and nudist beaches (or rather the adjacent bracken) for unclothed priests and bishops. Even in February these nude fiends will thirsty for men of any age. No stone should be left unturned for his readers.

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  10. And how would those men of the cloth know that such places exist there? First hand experience Mabey?

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    1. Unclothed in this case. They'll know these places like the back of the their hand.

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    2. 07:06 - "maybe".

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  11. Pat you do not need to apologise for your existence. The negative comments says more about those who made them than it does about you. Enjoy your holiday.

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  12. Your forgetting that the lads are frustrated for 50 weeks of the year when they go on their 2 week holiday where no one knows them they go bananas. Sex drugs and rock and roll. They have 50 weeks to recover. Sex and drugs are everywhere you just have to go looking.

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    1. Ps Enjoy your holiday Pat!!

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    2. 9.02 Just wondering if I missed out in the past All I ever did was get pissed. I'm happy that is not an option for me nowadays I have to try and face reality whatever that is

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  13. Pat, you deserve what you get. No one cares what you do when you're on holidays. You didn't need to tell us. We have more important things to worry about. Holidays are generally a private experience. Now that you received some crazy, hurtful comments, perhaps you might have some greater awareness of how others feel when you post horrible, nasty, judgmental comments about them. This trading of personal innuendo works both ways.....

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    1. I never used the word hurtful.

      The comments do not hurt me. Rather they give .e an insight into the minds of the writers.

      This is a blog. A blogger writes about what he wishes - even holidays :-)

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  14. Oh it's projecting their own guilt on you. You enjoy your holiday, love.
    Frankly, Pat, some of your commenters here make the man who's obsessed with pretending to be me look relatively normal!

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    1. 10.34: Whoever you are - you are plain, simple, boring. Your efforts at wit and sarcasm are s**t. You add nothing to this blog. Blue Magna, however unbearable, is at least witty and articulate - and intelligent.

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    2. 14:18 Thank you so much for your kind words of appreciation. While not claiming to be half as educated as so many of the egg-heads on here (goodness, how my poor efforts fade into insignificance besides the erudition of such as yours today) I aim to make my little contribution and am encouraged to continue to do so by high praise such as yours.

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    3. 18.46: Your comment confirms the general conclusion by many on this blog: YOU ARE BORING....NEITHER FUNNY OR SMART....JUST PLAIN BORING....

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    4. And not half as gifted as you since you can reply to posts before they've even been posted!
      Have you considered a lucrative career in fortune telling?
      And who is this 18:46 that only you can hear speaking?

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    5. Blew Magna blew!

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    6. 19.33. Keep on writing your inane crap. You manage to make yourself look stupid and silly. And BORING.

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    7. @22:41 Why thank you, my fan club! You keep on turning up for more so I know how much you love me! Xx

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  15. Delighted you are enjoying your holiday, Pat.
    Yes I’ve been on similar holiday there many times and did much of what you doing.Family holidays are so precious.
    We always kept away from the noisy areas...it’s not hard to do.
    And yes you are entitled to blog about anything .
    I enjoy reading them too.

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  16. Sounds like a lovely holiday and that's a nice view. Reading about your holiday is part of the light and shade that makes your blog so compelling.

    A certain senior priest of Clogher went to the Canaries every year for decades.

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    1. 13.50: Clogher Curate again. Obviously you get "self attention" by your comment being printed. What a miserable life you must live? And - sharing such news about a senior priest's holidays is an act of betrayal. Did he spite you in some way or are you the typical, gossipy, gutter bitch of a priest!!

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  17. Yes 13.50. And if it’s the same priest I’m thinking about he seldom was unaccompanied!

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    1. 14.08. So what if he was seldom unaccompanied! What are you really saying? You moronic idiot.

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    2. He means he needed a helping hand.

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    3. I thought it meant he was singing a capella ie unaccompanied.
      So it can't be Fr O'Hagan or his brother... They are usually accompanied !

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    4. A lot of people are into a capella these days. You'd be surprised!!

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    5. Sometimes I get an overwhelming urge for a quick a capella.

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    6. LOL ... No problem @ 8.04.
      ...just not on the top deck of the bus in rush hour!

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    7. Clogher curate (bit rushed, Vigil soon)10 February 2018 at 17:38

      Hey, 16:54, have you heard of the Four Ulsterbuses of the Apocalypse with their hellish destinations - Larne, Antrim, Portadown and Newtownards, places that always send a shiver down your spine.

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    8. What about the spine-chilling lesser known nasties, such as Ballinamallard and LisbeLlaw. Ugh!

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    9. To rushed Clogher curate---
      I have indeed heard of them and agree with you completely about the ice factor one experiences there. Brr!

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    10. Kesh should join that list.

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  18. Being in his eighties it's not so easy to get away. He used to fairly burn his way his pension from his teaching days in the Sem in Monaghan.

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  19. I meant to say "burn his way through". Soz.

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  20. Take a chill pill, 14:40. Saying that a senior unnamed co-diocesan liked two weeks in the Sun every year isn't a scoop, classified information or on a par with Wikileaks or Vatileaks.

    Any misery I have now will be as nothing to the misery to fall on Clogher when Joe McGuinness takes over.

    By the way, shouldn't you be at work instead of posting disobliging remarks, contrary to the spirit of "who am I to judge?" (c) Pope Francis.

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    1. 15.19: Clogher Curate: Thank God the priest in my parish is a gentleman! A kind, caring, dedicated man. I am at my work which is very fulfilling. And - I think your problem might be that you take too many chill pills!! I still consider you to be a "bitchfest" priest - sadly. I'd never dream of spreading gossip about my family, colleagues or friends. Loyalty doesn't appear to be one of your qualities!

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    2. Clogher Curate at 15.19. I agree with 14.40. If you have any loyalty to your colleagues who work hard, take a holiday and who struggle with their work and lives etc...you wouldn't feel the need to gosdip abiut them. Cinsideri g the small number of priests in your Diicese, you should be more careful and circumspect about sharing any information on this blog. Your sharing his destination will allow others to attribute sinister motivations, simply because of the image given to Gran Canaria by the gay culture. You are very selfish. Who cares where people go on holidays?

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    3. Well I'm not at work today. Officially it's not my day off but I take a pastoral approach as per Canon 533, section 2. I took a wee run out to Bundoran, had lunch in the Great Northern with a classmate from Raphoe then back to my unnamed parish.

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    4. We are down to 62 or 63 priests in Clogher. But a good few of us are curates. Happy hunting.

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    5. Dear Cligher Curate, please post every day. I enjoy your straight talking and informative and entertaining line. You have a talent for writing. I bet you contributed to 3D when you were in Maynooth and I sure Ronan Drury of very happy memory had spotted your talent and had you writing homilies and other articles for the furrow.

      Clogher (and you in particular) deserves a break from the string of actual and acting incumbents ever since Seosamh Ó Dubhthaigh was fast tracked in time for the 1979 papal visit.

      Marry in haste. Repent at leisure.

      A decent man like Eugene Duffy would be a wonderful bishop. God is good.

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    6. 19.37: I've discovered your true identity as a fellow colleague who studied with you!! So, don't play games here in being disloyal to your Diocesan colleagues. You haven't changed since student days....

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    7. Are you the PP of Derrygonnelly

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    8. Where is Derrygonnelly?

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    9. Have you never come across Dog's Big ?

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    10. No, 23:02, I'm not Jimmy McPhilips and I'm definitely not Paddy McPhilips, late of this diocese. After being Missing in Action for a few years Paddy is now settled in Longford.

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  21. See it's like this. The pretend Magna Carta got so jealous that I got more pickups in the sauna in Rome that he tried to reproduce the effect at home, thinking that it would make him a magnet to the ladies:
    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ITuGQDdAWzs/VXftvcUtIzI/AAAAAAAACuw/wTZIuSM1H4w/s640/blogger-image-133048285.jpg
    Sadly it didn't work and merely had the effect of making his loofah shrivel.

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    1. Magna 17.41: Would the photo on the blog site you printed be of yourself? With your contributions so far in imitation of the real BLUE MAGNA, the photo corresponds to the image you give of yourself. Ugly....unaesthetic.

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    3. 20:10 bless your heart, no that's not me, I'm quite different. But the fake Magna Carta is rather unappealing, isn't he?
      Here's a recent picture of me:
      https://i.pinimg.com/736x/55/24/73/5524736bbf741a40e9bac73206a516b2.jpg

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    4. Wonderful picture of Faux Magna. Now he'd draw huge crowds to the Church at Larne. Are you cheap Magna Black? Pat loves your type! (Cheap as in price!!).

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    5. He doesn't "do" ladies!

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    6. What an exciting opportunity! It's been a while since I've toured but I'll consider any venue if they'll pay Equity rates!

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    7. Your're NOT an Equity member. (Also .. our thanks to Pat..)

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    8. @15:03 It's the fake Magna Carta who isn't in Equity, you're getting confused. Perhaps your psychic senses aren't as well-honed as you think they are.

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  22. Sounds like Spain etc is moving with errants priests thirsting for Spanish papis. Dirty buggers! 

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    1. 18:56 What’s dirty about sex?

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    2. Maybe a Spanish Chorizo - very tasty!

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    3. My favourite!

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    4. Spanish Chorizo can be too piquant for some. Pulled pork is more their line.

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  23. Are we now going to be bored by a "Clogher Curate"? So far today he is not interesting and is doing his best to be smart and to impress - but failing miserably. Pat, surely you should exercise better judgment?

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    1. I think we can safely let Pat decide for himself, don't you?

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  24. The Clogher Curate should be more careful. I am also a Clogher Cleric and it's easy to identify the contributor today!!!!He should be very careful in his comments. He is easily identifiable.

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    1. 20:17, it could be someone being mischievous.

      The anonymous poster could be pretending to be a Clogher curate.

      He might even know a Clogher curate, who has a classmate in Raphoe, whom he meets often in Bundoran.

      Or..... he could indeed be a very stupid Clogher curate.

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    2. So he may be easily identifiable! So what! What’s the worst that can happen him? Being sent to a charming man like yourself as your curate. Welcome to the 21st century and freedom of speech!
      Or are you a supporter of the Kevin Farrell approach to free speech?

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    3. @22.36..
      Freedom of speech does NOT include a licence to be verbally abusive and bullying towards others.

      "Easily identifiable" refers only to the poster's comment pattern in which he continually uses the same insults to undermine others.
      (Your conjectures as to my profession etc are very inaccurate in every possible respect and of course, should never have been made

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    4. Or maybe from the writer’s perspective, they should indeed have been made, inorder to flush you out. An objective which has been admirably achieved by process of elimination.

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    5. Are you in the catering trade 23:38? It's just that your comment's a bit half-baked. 😜

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    6. @8.08.
      Yes, yes..predictable...the catering trade--sounds as if it was was all a bit too much for you to digest anyway!!

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    7. Yes , Magna LOL!

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  25. Well 19-17. If you haven’t worked out what I was saying indirectly then,my friend, you are the moronic idiot. Take heart there is counselling available.

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  26. John McAreavey is not one bit sorry that he said Finnegan’s funeral Mass. He is only sorry because now his having done so is going to come back and bite him on his fat, lazy arse.

    When they buried Finnegan, McAreavey and all the great and good of Dromore thought they had gotten away with it. They thought now that Finnegan is dead, his victims complaints went into the coffin with him. But they were wrong.

    They gave Finnegan full honours at his funeral knowing that he had sexually abused young boys. Finnegan should have been buried quietly without fanfare - a simple Mass said for him by one of his priest friends. But they lauded and celebrated him.

    McAreavey is not sorry that he hurt one of Finnegan’s victims by saying the funeral mass. McAreavey, behind closed doors, doesn’t give two shites for any victims of Finnegan. McAreavey is now trying to cover his arse for giving Finnegan a State funeral. McAreavey is sorry because the BBC are going to shine a Spotlight on his tenure as bishop of Dromore and McAreavey is shitting himself. Watch that space.

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    1. When is that BBC programme coming up? Would love to watch it South of the Border

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    2. Have you paid your BBC licence? No-pay-no-view! 😆

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  27. Papal visit to be announced Saturday afternoon

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  28. 22.48 Agree with everything you said about McAreavey. As I said yesterday on the blog he should resign and resign NOW. He is not fit to fulfil the Office of Bishop. Just because he was a lecturer in Gaynooth does not mean he is Bishop material, that’s why Ireland and it’s current choice of Bishops is a laughing stock.

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