Friday, 2 March 2018

HILLTOWN PAROCHIAL HOUSE




THE PARISHIONERS OF HILLTOWN IN COUNTY DOWN SHOULD BE THE ONES TO DECIDE THE FUȚURE OF THE PAROCHIAL HOUSE THERE WHERE FR. MALACHY FINNEGAN ABUSED AND RAPED YOUNG BOYS.

It now stands as a reminder of the sexual abuse of the hundreds of boys molester by Finnegan.

Many of Finnegan's victims live in Hilltown. Others must drive past it daily.

It, whether we like it or not, is a "monument" to sexual abuse.

If I were the new PP of Hilltown I would not like to live in that house.

How can parishioners go there to arrange baptisms, weddings and funerals without sensing the ghost of Finnegan there?

How can couples go there to talk to a priest about their problems or to have  Mass Card signed?

It is a house that is totally stained by the memory of the loss of innocence that happened there.

No cleric, including a new bishop of Dromore should make the decision.

That decision should be in the hands of Hilltown's parishioners - the ones who paid for that house to be built in the first place.

My own inclination is that it should be bulldozed and a memorial stone to Finnegan's victims be erected there - with a LET US NEVER FORGET message on it.

There are bound to be houses for sale in the parish that the diocese could purchase for the new PP to live in.

And I say the diocese because the parishioners of Hilltown should not have to pay for the replacement of the Finnegan building. They have suffered and paid enough.

Surely it will even be a challenge for the Hilltown parishioners to attend Mass in the Church where Finnegan once presided at the altar?

Hilltown will need an awful lot of healing.

Who could blame any Hilltown Catholic for never darkening the door of a Catholic church again?

It's easy for the rest of us to say not to blame God for what Finnegan did.

Tell a victim that. Tell a victim's family that. 

Any Hilltown Catholic who perseveres in the Catholic faith after all that has happened is to be admired.

AND

I was a bit shocked to hear that the current PP of Hilltown has gone to live in Warrenpoint temporarily.

Is that not the shepherd abandoning the sheep at a dark hour?

Could he not have moved in with a parishioner?

Could he not have put a mobile home in the Church grounds so he could stay with and comfort his people?

Very strange indeed!

126 comments:

  1. It would be a bit cold ina mobile home these days Pat, but I agree any house within the parish is where the priest should be.
    How far is it to Warrenpoint?
    Yes it should be levelled...

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  2. Chris Derwin has gone missing. Police searches and all

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    1. Have they tried the Giant's Ring?

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    2. +Pat reported that "strange goings-on" before the term "strange goings-on" had been invented. He's always ahead of the game.

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    3. Pat was the the first to expose "strange goingns-on". Without him they would be goingn-on, ignored by the bishops.

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    4. Hardly, get real. What universe are you living on that you are so stupidly naive.

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  3. Or simply stop the silly nonsense and stay in the perfectly good parochial house which is already there for the purpose?

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    1. What do you mean by silly nonsense? Do you think it is all nonsense the lives and faith destroyed by that evil man? Another stupid cold hearted comment. I hope you are not a priest.

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    2. Feeling are running high in Hilltown.

      I imagine the priest moved out of the house for safety reasons.

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    3. I can always detect when a priest posts...sorry but I can.

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    4. 8.11 So can I. They are very good at denial and looking the other way...."It never happened... and if it did it doesn't really matter"

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    5. I remember a Deacon's homily in seminary in which he stated that as he was not part of the abusing generation he did not intend to apologize to anyone regarding the plague of sexual abuse unleashed by clergy and covered up by bishops.

      I thought to myself what an arrogant and un-empathetic stance from an ostensible minister of Christ.

      The reality is that all clergy will have to keep apologizing, offer reparation to God and never forget the most ignominious and ignoble period of the over two thousand year history of the church.

      Sexual abusers still exist and are the most manipulative, deceptive and cleverest people you could encounter. Look at how Finnegan worked his way to the top.


      No matter the church minor and vulnerable persons protection structures currently in place, which with regard to seminarian screening are still woefully inadequate, we must never become complacent and forget the evil that happened.

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    6. I take exception to you inferring that Fr Byrne’s safety is an issue in Hilltown, Fr Buckley. Fr Byrne is a good priest. It is the association of that house with Finnegan that is the issue. Nothing to do with “safety”.

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  4. I'd hate to be the priest living in that big ugly house with it's evil history. I also think it should be demolished.

    Likewise with Kincora. My bus to Belfast passes it every day and it gives me the creeps every time I see it.

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  5. What is kincora house used for these days?

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    1. It's been empty for years. An accountancy firm had it for a few years but moved out. It's not even for sale or to let, just empty.

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    2. Here's a photo of Kincora, with victims pleading for its demolition.

      https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/belfast-news/kincora-house-horror-victims-gather-9136906

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  6. Is it one house with two entrance doors, or a semi-detached property, e.g. two separate dwellings?

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    1. One building, divided in 2 with 2 separate entrances.

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    2. I wonder if Hilltown parish (officially Clonduff) will make any reference to the scandal or the house? Yesterday the Dromore website still had John McAreavey as the bishop and no mention of his resignation. Similarly there's nothing about it on the news section of the Irish bishops website. Martin Long must have been told to observe omerta.

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    3. Thanks.

      I since read, a church spokesperson said: “The future of the parochial house is a matter for the parish finance council to resolve in the light of the needs of the parish, including that of a new primary school.”

      Or 'use the new primary school as an excuse to sell it on to the Council because no one else will buy it'.

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    4. Apart from the two parochial houses in Hilltown (Must they BOTH be knocked down?) Clonduff has a third unoccupied parochial house at Cabra. The current parish priest is also responsible for Rathfriland where there are further unoccupied parochial houses. The neighbouring parish of Kilcoo also boasts a vacant parochial house. And on top of all that, canon law REQUIRES the parish priest to reside in his parish.

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    5. Clogher curate3 March 2018 at 11:29

      Why keep all these unoccupied parochial houses? They could be family homes.

      In Enniskillen the one curate in the town has two, 3-story Georgian townhouses which contain five self-contained apartments, each with its own living room, kitchen, bathroom and bedroom. Only one apartment is in use and downstairs there's another kitchen and a formal dining room and oratory.

      Directly opposite the PP lives alone in one of the biggest houses on the island of Enniskillen. It would make a fine b&b.

      What madness!

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    6. No mention of the bishop, Fr Finnegan or the parochial house in this Sunday's bulletin which has appeared on the parish website.

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    7. To 09:36. In the Catholic Church a bishop's resignation does not take effect until it has been accepted by the Pope. Such decisions are announced daily at 12 noon (Rome time). There has as yet been no such announcement about Dromore.

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    8. What madness indeed, 11:29. And maddest of all is the fact that you, the laity, willingly funded this worldly extravagance.

      Baaaaa!

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    9. Must you attack every person that posts on here today Magna, you drunkard.

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    10. Yes he must - it's the way he lives his life. Everything is somebody else's fault and nobody is as good as him.

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  7. Pat, if there was a rush to knock down every house in Ireland where the sexual abuse of children occurred I think there would be acres and acres of empty plots and gaps in terraces where all the god daddies, many of them outwardly “ good” catholics abused daughters.
    Get real folks.

    Dalriada Dick

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  8. It looks like two semi-detached houses ie not a single house with two front doors. Note the two chimney stacks, suggesting a sitting room in each house.

    I realise there hasn't been a curate for a while, but why do/did diocesan priests live like that? It's costly and some complain of being lonely. Had the curate lived with Finnegan that might have put a brake on his activities though he would probably just find a different location.

    Demolishing the house is a bit extreme. I'd suggest selling it with full disclosure of its history, with the proceeds going to victims.

    Otherwise we might as well demolish all the seminaries, convents and schools were abusing priests and religious were on the staff, starting with St Colman's College.

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    1. Put a brake on Finnegan's 'activities'? Activities??!! Are you serious, you ass? Call child rape for what it is and not euphemistially.

      And how would a curate's living with Finnegan have prevented that fat old pervert from raping a child? Priests in close proximity to Finnegan in St Colman's didn't prevent his 'activities' there. So what the hell difference would it have made in that parochial house?

      Priests, in my experience, are moral cowards who happily look the other way rather than upset the status quo. Ministers of the Gospel? Nah! But servants of that *****, the institutional Roman Catholic Church.

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    2. That wouldn't be why you wanted to be one yourself, would it lol

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    3. Faux Magna, you are so obsessed with 'getting one over on me' that you ignore weightier matters.

      Shame on you.πŸ˜†

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    4. My dear, you are the main matter which can be described as weighty.

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  9. http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/3562010

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    1. It looks huge and in its own grounds. I imagine long term vacant properties like this will be sold to help pay towards compensation claims.

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    2. It's ridiculous that one priest lived in such a large house.

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  10. I agree that this monument to child rape and criminal cover-up should be completely demolished. However, I shouldn't go so far as thinking that the current PP's hasty retreat to Warrenpoint signifies a so-called 'shepherd's abandoning his sheep'. Frankly, I doubt whether too many people in Hilltown (and elsewhere) now look upon Roman Catholic priests in this silly, outdated way. As wolves who might prey on their children sexually? Absolutely! But as leaders and protectors of people? Grow the f**k up!! Where have you been, citizens, for the past 25 or so years, with its constant flow of clerical sex-abuse scandals?

    Roman Catholic parasite-priests are destroying the Church, especially bishops like McAreavey. What's worse is the fact that, like that other vile example of disserving priest, Sean Brady, these spongers wilfully refuse to go once it becomes known that they have betrayed people, thus showing their worldly vanity and enterprise.

    Roman Catholicism needs to follow the Presbyterian model, where individual congregations and dioceses choose their priests and bishops rather than having some unsuitable, or disgusting pervert or bully, imposed on them by Rome, or on Rome's behalf.

    Roman Catholicism is changing, and clearly the clerical parasite/spongers are resisting these changes. But they had better get used to them, since people are increasingly angry at, and less tolerant of, clerical self-serving behaviour.

    For a start, congregations must stop funding the idle living of these useless bastardos. There is no one so useless and lazy as a Roman Catholic priest. And in my experience, there are few exceptions. They must support themselves financially, as did Paul the Apostle at tent-making, with full-time jobs.

    This is only the beginning. There needs to be many more changes if the Church is not to deviate further from the model of ecclesial assembly/community envisioned by Christ.

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    1. Magna 10.41: Hmmmm...and you're not a racist? And can't be accused of incitement to hatred? I'm quite certain you wouldn't speak these racist, hateful words publicly to any category of people? So early in the day and you think like a drunken idiot. Roll yourself in the snow to cool down.

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    2. I did not incite anyone to hatred, you imbecile. But I did, happily, express my hatred for a system of clericalism that is lacerating the Body of Christ.

      And where is the racism in my comment, you halfwit?πŸ˜†

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    3. Magna @ 12.54: Your brain must have been too exposed to the Siberian wind, such is the horribleness of your comnents. Vulgarity at its worse. Sadly, you seem incapable of discerning your vicious incitement to hatred, your prejudices, racism and bigotry. Stay in your snow cave byt without the booze!! You dumb bag!

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    4. Well then 14:33, YOU tell me what are my 'vicious incitement to hatred,...prejudices, racism and bigotry'.πŸ˜†

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    5. Useless and lazy eh, Magna Carta? I’d love to follow you around for a day and see how gainfully you employ your time. Your drinking arm and your filthy, abusive gob are the busiest parts of you.

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    6. Any votes for who wants Maggie Blue to be their leader?

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  11. Turn the house to good. Accommodate the homeless or those waiting on council lists.

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  12. Pat, it is NOT your decision what happens to this house. Encouraging people that it should be demolished is quite frankly irresponsible. How many days are you going to milk this story and exploit the grief and pain of victims for your own agenda of attacking the Church. You sit in judgement in your usual self righteous smug way and accuse people of taking a differing view as co abusers which is disgusting and deeply offensive. Where is the blog going next? St Colmans College, the inaction of the Police, the identity of the woman who gave the victim money on behalf of Fr. Finnegan?

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    1. Yes, 11:01, you would rather just bury the scandal, wouldn't you? And the quicker the better! You, apologist for clerical child rape and cover-up. It is partly because of asses like you that these things continued for so very long, because you didn't want 'to milk' them.

      You make me feel physically sick, you moral coward!

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    2. Magna 11.01 A typical same response from you ‘apologist for child rape’. You don’t know me so keep the views from your disgusting vile opinionated mouth to yourself. We all know the reasons why you are ‘physically sick’ in the mornings along with a sore head no doubt. Go back to your bottle you pathetic soak because people are sick sore and tired having to endure the crap that comes off your tongue on this blog. Away with you.

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    3. 'Away with you.' Ha ha You sound like some pompous Victorian magnate. Ha ha πŸ˜†

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    4. At least I don’t sound like some drunken loudmouth layabout fool. Ha ha.

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    5. Magna, 12.56: Please stop making an utter fool of yourself. Stop being ugly. Are you so impoverished within and so miserable a human being that your only source of enjoyment is found on this blog? You are a pitiable specimen...and as observed by many, a drunken w***e.

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    6. 14:38, 'a drunken' what?πŸ˜…πŸ˜†

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    7. 14.28 you nearly made me wet myself at your retort to that magna moron. You should do stand up. Lol.

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    8. Yes indeed...do we know the identity of the woman who gave the money?

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    9. 11.01 Not only has Pat an influence in the decision about the house, all people of prayer have an influence in that decision. Of course the house should be demolished and a memorial of reparation on some part of the ground asap. And this story, that the blog is covering, will go where it needs to go and follow every participant to their meeting with God - is that far enough for you? One thing Pat cannot be accused about is being lukewarm. On the other hand its the many people who would just like to sweep things under the carpet who have further abused the victims by making it even more difficult for them to come forward by shhsssing them at every turn. I'd say that there will be very few prayers for victims tonight. I find people rarely pray for people they don't want to talk about.

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    10. I think it should be made into a home for the pretend Magna Carta.

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    11. @20.22 What Stone did you crawl out from under. With your lip and your prayers. Do you not realise how ridiculous you sound? All people of prayer have an influence you say - how twee! How very twee! Splitting my sides here, who needs a stand up comedian when we have you. Oh God, I think I’ve took a stitch with all the laughing.

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  13. To the fake Magna Carta: I have a totally serious question for you. If you've seen the animated series Archer which character do you most identify with?
    Full disclosure: I'm the mother. Obvs.

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    1. Magna at 11.59 We are discussing a very serious issue here if you hadn’t noticed, I can’t believe that infantile shite you’ve just posted. Just keep it shut for once in your life and keep your silly juvenile nonsense to yourself.

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    2. @12.01 hear hear. Couldn’t have put it better myself in your response to the bitter and twisted Maynooth REJECT.

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    3. You're smarting, aren't you Faux Magna, from the thrashing I gave you on yesterday's blog?πŸ˜†

      Still trying to save face. Ha ha πŸ˜†πŸ˜†

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    4. PAT - Save magna from total implosion and self destruction. Why are you tolerating his mad, crazy, offensive comments? And his sneering contempt for all?

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    5. Magna apologies @13.17 to a poster he attacked in the wrong. Just goes to show how he is incapable of following posts and knowing who said what. You have been on the Sherry again haven’t you or was it the babycham or methylated spirits this time?

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    6. 14.43: The Maggies are confusing all of us.....wish they'd go deep into the forest....

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    7. ROFL
      I love you all too.
      And Maggie def hasn't watched Archer. He probably sees the screen in double vision anyway.
      It's bitter by the way (just like him) - he thinks it's a real man's drink and will make him look grown up.
      It might, if he didn't drink it out of a sherry glass lol.

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  14. And you Magna, 11.11, make me feel physically sick because of your abusive, ignorant and hateful language against every priest. You are a racist, you epitomise bigotry and prejudice and incite much hatred. You make me physically sick. And before you respind - let me assure you - as I spoke yesterday - I know what abuse is having experienced it. Thank God, I made my way through it with professional help. But to witness your faux indignation, your nastiness and that of others is unhelpful and destructive in the process of healing and justice for survivors of abuse. If abusive language (as oppised to TRUTH) brought healing, then you may allow yourself engage in such, but otherwise you deepen the hurt for survivors. Don't use my experience of abuse to condemn the Church. Find another cause for your energy: work with the homeless.

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    1. '..to condemn the Church'? The 'Church'? Really?You, clearly, identify Church with clergy, in other words, 'with institutional Roman Catholicism'.

      I don't know what happened to you, but I do know that you are yet another apologist for this morally rotten institution, which has wreaked so much physical, emotional, moral and spiritual havoc on the most vulnerable, on their parents, families and relations, on the communities in which they worshipped and served. And some of you wonder why I refer to this institution as a *****! ?

      Hmm I really do wonder how on Earth someone who claims to have been abused could be so sympathtic, so openly sympathetic, with this *****! .

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    2. 13.11: Magna, I speak the TRUTH of my experience as at 12.18. Try as you may, your pathetic, abusive arguments, inciting hatred, will not ever entice me to adopt your approach of venom, anger, abuse, bigotry, hate. If I chose to hold on to such attitudes, I would not have found healing and reconciliation. Despite my experience I have a deep faith and derive immense peace from being a member of my local parish community where I find goodness, love, caring and welcome. That may not suit your insidious nasty agenda. Unless you've experienced the struggles, pain and long journeys which "survivors" go through, your words are not conducive in enabling healing and reconciliation. (Incidentally, my abuser was a family friend - supposedly). Magna, if you wish to co tribute to this issue, do so more compassionately and constructively. Your vulgarity is offensive.

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    3. Magna at 13.11 you were quite happy to be trained for the Priesthood In said Catholic Church at great expense to the lay faithful who you abuse on here each day. However, you were deemed ‘unsuitable’ and ‘unworthy’ of Ordination and got shown the door. We understand where your venom and hatred emanates from you poor thing. So go back to that slurry pit you crawled out of and the bottle you drank from. I believe it’s a rather ramshackle of a place you dwell in.

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    4. 14:38, I'll drink t' that! (Hic)πŸ˜†

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    5. Don’t know why you folks even bother to engage with that wa*ker Carta. You’re wasting your time. The pr**k is a narcissistic bombast. Just let him rant on.

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    6. For 14.25, you have a lot of nasty words in your vocab for someone who has experienced great healing, and that is not to excuse Magna.

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    7. For 14.25, you have a lot of nasty words in your vocab for someone who has experienced great healing, and that is not to excuse Magna.

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    8. @21.22 & 21.25 You are repeating yourself darling like a parrot. There might be a cure for that somewhere. That posters words can hardly be described as ‘nasty’. You obviously don’t read this blog often darling, do you? If you did you would quickly realise that Magnas utterances give nasty a whole new meaning.

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    9. As regards Magna Carta, you would need to have known him in Maynooth. He is a classic case of “hurt people hurt people”. Say a wee prayer for him.

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  15. Pat... Have you anything positive or constructive to add to society or indeed community?
    I see this blog and its contributors as a world of darkness and no forward thinking vision.
    You as a self confessed Cleric live in a bubble and thrive on the ME ME ME syndrome!
    Your regular bloggers, need we say anymore!
    Bring us new news, good news and the message of love and forgiveness.
    Park your bitterness up from the past and move on as old men + bitterness = Not healthy minds.

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    1. Let's us get rid of all the bad news first and then fill the BIG HOLE with good news.

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    2. 12 .44 no one asked to read here...did they ?
      Why don’t you say something positive yourself instead of the usual criticism...no one is stopping you.

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    3. As a daily mass going, rosary praying believer I often find Pat's blog a good antidote to people who sneer like you do. It is especially when people like you contribute that I realise how important this blog is.

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    4. I think you need to keep saying more rosaries dear and go to Mass more often. Remember to pray for the conversion of England. Don’t tell Sean Page that one - he might get a tad upset.

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    5. You like the Pharisees....aren’t you great.
      Keep up the daily goings Ons...they might eventually do u some good ...for yourself.
      Look up the word sneer and see if used appropriately.

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  16. Sadly I think the best thing to do is knock the house or even use it as offices. Maybe again it could be used as some sort of refuge with a clear plaque showing the date the building was "dedicated" to the well being of all. It seems a shame on reflection to knock the place but the wrong does need setting right. A new priests house is needed whatever happens.

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  17. Maybe we could build an Anglican Church on the site Mr Page. That would be as useless as an ashtray on a motorbike in Hilltown, come to think of it your suggestions are equally useless.

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    1. Dear 14.32 Thank you for your comment. I thought you were ignoring my posts but not to worry. What you post says more about you than it does about me or the matter under didcussiod.

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    2. I’m still happy to didcussiod it with you Mr Page because of your usual inane contributions. You have left the Catholic Church and become a Protestant Minister - go find a Protestant blog to bore people with your nonsense szzzzzzzz

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    3. 22.33 I have no intention of going anywhere. Pat is infact a protestant bishop having protested against Rome and got excommunicated for his actions. So fek off and read the equal opportunities and inclusion laws. PS have a nice day

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  18. Of course, it's silly nonsense to blame the inanimate object which is the building. A wicked person lived their temporarily.
    Many good people had use of the building too over the years.
    Don't waste our parishioners ' funds when it's not necessary.
    Why would you take out your revenge on the house instead of tackling the problem properly? The one thi
    ng that is not to blame is the house. My great grandfather did a great job on that building and was proud of his work...as were the other builders.

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    1. Have you never heard the expression 'genius loci', 15:03? Of course, you haven't, not being well educated, or notably bright. It means, in English, 'spirit of place'. It can be perceived in such places as Auschwitz.

      It is as if the evil committed in such a place was so great that it inhabits the very air. The opposite is true in places where great peace can be perceived. Why Roman Catholicism even has blessings for places to divest or diminish the perceived presence of evil.

      That hole in Hilltown now has a 'genius loci', and no superstitious blessing will remove it. But razing that pile to the ground will, from both place, and folk memory.πŸ˜†

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    2. I totally agree with you 15.03. The people of Hilltown, despite their deep hurt are not as vengeful or nasty as some people on this blog. They are decent people with respect and integrity. When you said earlier pat Buckley the priest had to leave hilltown for Warrenpoint for his own safety was utterly scurrilous. Nobody in Hilltown would do such a thing to a Priest, you do the people a great disservice here by suggesting such a thing. Can you now stop using us for your own advantage please.

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    3. Nothing scurrilous about it...oh holy one.
      If someone wanted to attack that house, it would be safer if no one liked in it...I presume that is why it safer for him to
      I’ve elsewhere...Maybe he felt unsafe in it..I certainly would
      Nobody said the locals would do this
      So keep your nasty and vengeful words...your words to yourself.
      Nobody norPat has disrespect for the people of Hilltown
      But you imagine posters are being nasty and vengeful.

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    4. I’d happily live in that house in Hilltown ( not like in it as you say) as I’m sure would many others particularly in this cold spell my dearie. I very much doubt you live in Hilltown and are just latching on to them because of their terrible suffering my dearie.

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  19. Magna, you are deluding yourself in attempting to show you have mercy and compassion for all who were/are abused. You are manipulating their pain to gain some attention for your supposed humanity. Knowing that you received an education from the Church, and paid for by the generosity of parishioners and others, your commentary, so abusively expressed, is utterly irrelevant and hypocritical. As was alluded to already, crawl back into your igloo but without the beers and whiskey... (Remember, you were dermed unsuitable for priesthood: what a wise decision)!!

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    1. What information is there about this M.C.? Was he a seminarian? If so, in which seminary/seminaries? For which diocese(s)? When? How far did he advance? What were the circumstances of his change of plan? Who were in authority at that time?
      Is it possible to piece some of the details together?

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    2. 20:46, by God, sir! The game is afoot!πŸ˜†

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  20. If they go knocking that one to the ground they would need to do the same to every house build before 2000 I'm pretty sure....

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  21. If canon law requires a priest to live in his parish, how come the PP of Holy Trinity, Turf Lodge doesn’t live in his parish?

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  22. Pat, in all fairness we have had a whole shed load of this now. Like Nolan you are guilty of flogging a dead horse. You both got what you wanted, he resigned. Do you now want to hang the man or throw him from a parapet. You are just part of a lynch mob baying for blood. You and Nolan would be better of in the Collessum in Rome. Even Brian Darcy is agreeing with you today Pat, another Me Me Me Cleric.

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    1. People can post about this for as long as they wish.
      Just go and say your 8 pm mass and leave Pat and Brian alone
      Jealousy of these great journalists is your problem.
      Obviously you have no compassion for those survivors.
      It’s all about McAreavey and his pink robes....you have little to be worrying about.

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    2. 17.34, what a very unfair comment to Pat. Here's what I want and Bishop McAreavy was totally free to do this but didn't and won't. Let the bishop take time out and admit the reasons why he covered up evil. The let him realise that his reasons were wrong. Then let him write humbly about how the clerical culture made him do what he did. Then let his testimony fearlessly challenge all clergymen everywhere they are formed and where they are in positions of authority and perhaps show that we may have a future.

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    3. 21.37 Your pathetic post really did make me laugh. Pat Buckley and Brian d’arcy great journalists, ffs will you cop yourself on. Jesus I’m still rolling on the floor laughing. It’s people like you is why this Country is in such a mess. Get back to your needlework granny.

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      Good post.

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  23. Pat, you are the classic enabler. You are allowing Magna express some very abusive words which in turn cause a chain reaction of personal abuse. Do you benefit in some strange, bizarre psychological way from this ugly interaction? I think you should seriously think about your responsibilities vis a vis Magna and his trailer trash cohorts.

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  24. 15.03. You hit the nail on the head

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    1. You agree with 15.03 who wants to retain the building but in an earlier post you recommended it to be demolished!!!!! Can you make up your mind Sean, there again you’re a typical Anglican now, change your mind every other day.

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  25. And so the conversation comes to a sudden end at three o'clock killed stone dead by the vulgarity of Magna Carta... Why can't shut up and not always hand the Catholic Taliban the high moral ground. TBH I believe he is himself a member of the Popish Taliban.

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  26. Don’t you just hate when someone reticules those of us who can’t bear to look at that house...as our feelings being ‘ silly nonsense ‘
    It’s nohing to do with t revenge...don’t you understand that little boys were violated there.
    Did you ever have a little boy.
    That house is just bricks and mortar, I’m sur your grandfather built many a brick .
    It’s the visual impact that scared the living daylights out of little boys as they approached it.

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  27. Oh poor pretend Magna Carta. It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
    Many an evening he takes his old soutane out from his steamer trunk and almost puts it on in front of the mirror. It's going green with age and of course he can only almost put it on because of the huge amount of weight he's put on since seminary on the chips and chocolate diet. He sold the fiddleback chasubles he obtained from parochial houses in preparation for his ordination but nobody would have wanted his soutane, so peculiar is the cut and distasteful the stains.
    He sobs a little, opens another bottle and makes some more retaliatory comments on Pat Buckley's blog, such is his loathing for those he could never join...

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  28. As D.D. says, the same could be said about many a family home right across the country. Your solution to that?

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    1. That is whataboutery 20.42,At this time we discussing Milltown house.
      23.10... I’m just a simple mother trying to bring up little boys.

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  29. Sorry Sean but you very wrong to agree with 15.03
    It’s not revenge that people want.
    It’s looking at that house by those who were violated that upsets their friends and neighbours.
    Of course upset isn’t the proper descriptive word....but looking at the house is turning their stomachs.

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    1. 21.17 You are a total melodramatic Queen, just pull yourself together and stop using emotional shite talk. It’s a building, I doubt people show the emotions you perpetuate in your over the top posts.

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    2. 15.03 Perhaps revenge is a wrong word. People are right to be upset. It's not the buildings fault. If it can be used for good it can stand as a positive marker and a reminder to all to be appropriate

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  30. Bloggers on this s(*)ite, why does Pat encourage and allow the unacceptable, objectionable, offensive Magna dominate with his hatred for and belittling of everyone? What a blind fool you are Pat!

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  31. Whoever you are that keeps harping on at Magna.
    Can you address the posts and not the poster.
    BETTER STILL
    SHUT THE F**K UP

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    1. Are you Magna, sounds like it by your vulgar language. Have you been on the bottle too, sounds like it too. If you don’t like receiving it then don’t dish it out - simple Pal.

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    2. Oh I agree, I wish they'd stop as well!

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    3. BETTER STILL 21:20 YOU SHUT THE F**K UP YOURSELF! Magna is big enough and ugly enough to defend himself.

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    4. Well, ugly enough, certainly.

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  32. I was abused by a Priest in the South Side of Glasgow in the late 1980’s and thankfully he is no longer a Priest. I do visit the Church where it happened from time to time as it takes me back to a really bad place, but on the other hand I really feel that I can speak to God there and pray for my abuser and reflect on how I have moved on. Might sound strange but I guess knocking down the building wouldn’t help me.

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  33. Time to move on, +Pat, your readers are becoming restless... for (adult male-to-male) scandal.

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    1. @21.55 time for you to move on moron. If you want scandal, as you often do, on here get a copy of the Sunday World tomorrow you sad twisted imbecile.

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    2. What an insult to the poster at 21:43. Your contribution is shameful.

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