Friday, 13 April 2018

RC CLERICS OPPOSING MY PRISON VISIT

WEEKEND BLOG FOR SATURDAY AND SUNDAY 




THE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHAPLAINS AT MAGHABERRY PRISON, JUST OUTSIDE BELFAST HAVE BLOCKED ME VISITING A PARISHIONER OF MINE WHO IS ON REMAND IN THE PRISON!

On Thursday afternoon Assistant Governor Savage told my local MP - Mr. Sammy Wilson that he was blocking my visit to my parishioner after being told to do so by the Roman Catholic chaplains.


SAMMY WILSON MP - EAST ANTRIM

Mr. Wilson was absolutely astounded that in 2018 the Northern Ireland Prison Service was blocking a prisoner having a pastoral visit from the clergyman of his choice.

Not only is the prisoner a parishioner of The Oratory in Larne - but he is also a man with serious mental health issues and I have been supporting him for decades.

Assistant Governor Savage did not say which of the Roman Catholic chaplains gave him instructions not to allow me into the prison.

But the Down and Connor website lists the prison chaplains as:


HM Prison Maghaberry
Old Road, Ballinderry Upper, Lisburn, Co Antrim, BT28 2TP
Tel: (028) 9261 4825

Pastoral Team:

Rev Frank Brady SJ,
Bro Brian Monaghan,
Rev James Madden
Rev Ciaran Dallat

I am wondering if the RC chaplain's objection to me is based on the fact that this Blog dealt with the case of Father Ciaran Dallat making a parishioner of Sacred Heart Parish in Belfast pregnant when he was PP there?



Is this Ciaran Dallat's way of trying to pay me back for helping the woman he made pregnant and then dumped?

If so, should be he allowed to use the civil service and the needs of a mentally ill prisoner to get his "revenge"?

And, of course, should the Northern Ireland Prison Service be allowing themselves o be used in this way?

After Father Dallat's disgrace, Bishop Treanor obviously felt that it would not be prudent to send Dallat into a parish?

So, instead, Treanor sent him to Maghaberry as a chaplain.

And as a chaplain, Dallet is being paid a handsome salary out of the Northern Ireland taxpayer's pocket.


I am not seeking to minister to the prisoner in question as a Roman Catholic cleric.

I belong to a totally separate religious body called The Oratory Society.

The prisoner in question attends Sunday Mass at The Oratory in Larne.

I am seeking to minister to my parishioner as the senior pastor of The Oratory.

That is not the business of any other church - including the Church of Rome.

The Church of Rome has absolutely no connection with me and has no authority over me.

Why then should it be in a position to instruct the Northern Ireland authorities how to deal with me?


AND - are the Northern Ireland Prison Service not very fooling to used by their Roman Catholic chaplains to basically become involved in RELIGIOUS DISCRIMINATION?

As a first step to address this instance of religious discrimination Sammy Wilson is writing to the Governor of Maghaberry Prison - Mr. David Kennedy.


MAGHABERRY GOVERNOR - DAVID KENNEDY

Hopefully, Governor Kennedy will look further into this matter and resolve it before it becomes both a parliamentary or judicial issue - especially in view of Maghaberry Prison's Statement of Good Practice:

"Examples of good practice

The prison service has a duty to provide for the pastoral needs of prisoners of other faiths and a register of pastors and ministers of minority faiths, willing to provide pastoral care for prisoners, is maintained. When the need arises, prisoners registered as other faiths for which no chaplains are appointed, may on request receive a visit from a Pastor or Minister of their own religion.  


Maghaberry Chaplaincy say;

“No matter how pleasant the surroundings prison can be an unpleasant place. The prison chaplains are here to show prisoners that, no matter what the crime, it does not mean that God has given up on the offender. There are chaplains for Church of Ireland, Free Presbyterian, Methodist, Presbyterian and Roman Catholic prisoners. Arrangements can be made for those of other denominations or religions".


125 comments:

  1. Bishop Pat, these chaplains are going to end up with egg all over their faces; it is inevitable.

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    1. Compared to what usually spatters across their faces, egg is probably quite tame.

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  2. "WEEKEND BLOG FOR SATURDAY AND SUNDAY!"

    Not good enough, +Pat. It's far too tame. Only a good Gaynooth scandal could keep us going for a whole weekend.

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    1. The numbers in Maynooth now (low 20s) restrict the capacity for new scandals, the presence of the German department and the Graf notwithstanding.

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    2. With the good guys gone there is nobody to tell what the bad guys are up to.

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    3. Maynooth scandals is not a crop to be fostered. Nor should such be a spectator sport. Of course such things need sorting out but the priority is the Kingdom of God and the integrity of it's ministers

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    4. 14:55 A value judgement wouldn’t you say!

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  3. Pat, how is the Independent Catholic Church coming along. I remember you were saying about a website, and more information. Is there more information available? Rome has no control over you, and just thank the Lord for that. There is only one person you need Pat, and that is the Lord, no one else to control you.

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    1. How does your pious platitude fit with your infamous contribution of earlier this week?

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    2. Exactly, I'm surprised that John King is commenting again after last week's fiasco.

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  4. Pat, surely you can visit as a private citizen coming to meet a friend? Maybe you have been denied a visit based on the fact this man has a mental disorder. it seems bizarre a catholic chaplain would be able to influence an assistant governor

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  5. This is discrimination. I hope it's sorted out. At this point I believe Fr Dallat does not come into the equation. It is the facts that count. I'm sure other concerns can be addressed in time

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  6. Pat, if the catholic chaplains are involved here then they have been very silly. Media love these stories. It falls under the David and Goliath category. And you can rest assured that all of Fr Dallat’s history will be repeated afresh just when it all died down.
    Might take a few days to bubble up but we will see.

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  7. Pat, ask Sammy Wilson to ask an Oral Question directed at the Secretary of State at the next Northern Ireland Questions in the Commons. DUP politicians are very diligent.

    My wife and I are traditionalist Catholics and we always vote DUP because of their pro-life stance. I told my DUP MP that and he said "I have many supporters of your persuasion". Lol

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    1. Mr. Wilson is perfectly happy to raise this issue in the House of Commons if it not resolved.

      Sammy is an excellent local MP and has assisted me before.

      In gratitude I voted for him personally at the last general election and will do so at the next one too.

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    2. 09:36
      You are entitled to choose your traditionalist brand of Roman Catholicism and do vote DUP. Good luck to you.

      The great historian of religion Mircea Eliade once carachterised tradition as the living faith of the dead and traditionalism as the dead faith of the living.

      I’ll leave it to someone else to comment on your political choice.

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  8. For once I agree with the troll known as “Magna Carta” above at 23:29 and I am by no means a “fan” of yours, Pat.

    They are going to look very foolish as a result of this. They are idiots for attempting to do it in the first place and, if lothario - Six Dinners Dallat - is behind it, the big clown is shooting himself in the foot. Will they never learn??

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  9. As a constituent of Sammy Wilson I know he won’t be happy with you having made public something he clearly told you with discretion.

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    1. You are wrong.

      Mr. Wilson gave me permission to quote him!

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    2. Sammy is great!

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    3. Isn't "I was in prison and you visited me" part of the Sermon on the Mount?

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    4. 12:39 No. But it does come at the end of the same gospel.

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  10. Pat, a source in Rome tells me that Rome has ordered the closure of Maynooth at the end of this academic year, on account of low numbers, the anti-seminary environment of Maynooth University, poor academic standards, high costs and strange goings-on. Please would you and your journalist contacts check this?

    What an achievement, Pat, if you close Gaynooth, the most hypocritical place in Ireland.

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    1. Maynooth will not close. It will be downsized but won’t close. Dublin will send students again after 2020 when a new Dublin Archbishop is appointed.

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    2. There is a good chance that Maynooth will become a hall of residence for the lay university.

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    3. Like any bishops conference, if there are a number of seminarians suitable for a single seminary, but there are two seminaries than one seminary needs to close. If Maynooth is closed it can generate rental income for the seminary and buildings that house staff. This is not true of the Irish college in Rome. Obvious decision.

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    4. Maynooth deserves to close if they are having "queerness" conferences in Logic House, which used to house first year seminarians and is still owned by the church.

      https://www.maynoothuniversity.ie/maynooth-week/events/queerness-voice-embodiment-day2

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  11. @10.33 What a load of tosh you speak! Wishful thinking on your behalf and I’m always very wary of people who claim they have sources in Rome. You have no more sources in Rome than I have in the White House.

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  12. + Pat: If your parishioner requests you to visit him, then that should be facilitated by the Prison and by the Chaplaincy, unless there is a real security concern, and I doubt that in your case. The visit could take place within the Chaplaincy under the auspices and supervision of the chaplains, although from what you are saying that is unlikely. Or, you could visit your parishioner in the normal way by asking him to send you a visit order and then arrange to visit with him in the general visits hall.

    I suspect that you are being blocked by the Chaplains because you are not to their liking.

    Can you imagine, however, what would happen if they tried to stop a Muslim prisoner being visited by his Imam, and there were no security concerns to prevent the visit ? There would be hell to pay, unless there were very good and concrete reasons for the visit not to take place, such as any security concerns. Just blocking a visit because they do not happen to like the Imam or what he stands for, would not be acceptable. And neither should it be in your case.

    So, I would pursue this matter through all possible channels.

    I suspect that the dear Rev Fr Dallat, whom you have written about many times, is behind this. It is his way to pay you back for what you have said about him. Actually, he probably should not be working in a prison, given his background and his inability to keep boundaries. If I were the Governor, I think I would have a look at his suitability to be there. If he can break boundaries professionally in his priestly and parish life, I think he could very easily do so in the prison environment, and that would have serious consequences for security. I would take that risk very seriously in the case of Fr Dallat if I were the Governor. This could come and bite Fr. Dallat in the ass !

    And if I were the local Bishop, I would think seriously about Fr Dallat's suitability to minister in any capacity. He has shown himself incapable of keeping professional boundaries, and to behave in a professional way. In any other profession he would have lost his licence to practise. But, in the RC Church, where they look after their own in the clerical chumocracy that exists, he is given numerous other chances and sneaked in to a ministry in the prison. It stinks ! Fr Dallat should be sent packing and made to make his own way in the world outwith the protection of the RC Church and the clerical mafia that runs it for its own convenience and comfort.

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  13. Thank you. Just to explain:

    In Maghaberry Prison there are a series of private rooms where solicitors can have legal visits and clergy can have ecclesiastical visits.

    This is to allow prisoners to discuss sensitive and private matters with their legal and spiritual advisors.

    Otherwise in the main visiting areas all prisoners and relatives can overhear private conversations.

    I have been visiting Maghaberry since it opened on ecclesiastical visits. I have celebrated marriages in the interdenominational chapel.

    The Oratory Society is regarded as a "religious body" by the Northern Ireland authorities.

    When I first went out on my own Cahal Daly and the then RC chaplains refused to arrange ecclesiastical visits for me.

    I had to ask the Rev. Ian Paisley to make arrangements for me with the then Prisons Minister Nicholas Scott. The matter was resolved.

    It has now, once again, raised its head!

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    1. PS: There is a Muslim imam who visits the prison and the chaplains facilitate it!

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    2. Paisley would have fixed it. Famously he advocated for RC schools and convents. He was a bigot and of his time but he made the distinction between the Church and its members. He helped many a North Antrim Catholic.

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    3. @12.25 Is that why Paisley held up a Host at Oxford University and mocked it and mocked Catholics for receiving it if he advocated for RC schools and convents - totally untrue so don’t talk daft. He didn’t help Catholics in North Antrim because they were Catholics, it was because they were constituents so don’t talk daft on this one too. You are correct in saying he was a bigot but then again the DUP continue to be a party of bigots. They have just patted Teresa May on the back today for bombing Syria so DUP supporters can be proud of that too.

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    4. I've had a good counselling session from Bishop Buckley. I phoned him a few times. I'm a traddy Catholic and he was very wise and surprisingly orthodox in his advice (basically do no harm, tell the truth in eveyone's interests, explain to the children as necessary and according to their age/understanding. Best advice I got. You have to phone Pat to understand the way he makes you feel at home.

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    5. In response to 12:47, Ian Paisley had a massive majority in North Antrim so he didn't need the support of his Catholic constituents. This is also the case in my constituency of Strangford, where the DUP MP Jim Shannon looks after all his constituents.

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    6. Jim Shannon lol, the oul eejit who stood up in Parliament and cried like a wee girl. It’s the duty of every MP to look after ALL constituents irrespective of their religion. To say the DUP bigots looked after Catholics as a big favour to them is totally false and unjustifiable. The DUP are doing well propping up the Tories by helping them to vote through ending children’s free school meals and supporting them in bombing Syria. The people and the MP’s in England, Wales and Scotland loathe the DUP, now they can see what we’ve had to put up with over the years.

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  14. The big difference with the Imam is that he is not disaffected from Islam. They have more flexibility to operate anyway they wish because Islam has no official figure head like the Pope. That is also a big difference.

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    1. I am NOT seeking to visit the prisoner as Roman Catholic cleric.

      I am seeking to visit the prisoner as the senior pastor of The Oratory Society where the prisoner has been a worshipper for 20+ years.

      I have no relationship with the Roman pope or he with me.

      Roman Catholicism is irrelevant to this issue.

      It is about each prisoner's right to have pastoral care from a pastor of his choice.

      It is also about religious freedom and religious discrimination.

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    2. Pat some of these guys want to pretend you don't exist. It's a bit late for that now I'm afraid

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    3. “I have no relationship with the Roman pope or he with me”.

      Really?

      Methinks you doth protest too much!

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  15. 11.13: Do you know the full story? I am puzzled but there has to be a bigger picture than what we're been given. Now that some comments, ascribed to Mr. Kennedy are deleted and Pat having to tell us that he had permission from Sammy to quote him, there is a story being manufactured with lots of the narrative left out to suit Pat. We deserve the whole truth, nothing less.

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    1. I am telling the full story.

      I deleted the comment ascribed to Governor Kennedy because I could not be sure at all that it was from him.

      Sammy told me, without being asked, that I could quote what Assistant Governor Savage said to him.

      I believe Sammy 100%.

      Nothing is being manufactured.

      You are getting all the facts that I aware of.

      If I become aware of new ones I will share those too.

      I have nothing to hide.

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  16. The Catholic cult imagines it has the right to lay down laws for the baptised even if they are not Catholic. For example, it claims it can block Protestant weddings from being valid with a mere decree.

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  17. I'm surprised that Fr Dallat is allowed to be a prison chaplain given his back story with vulnerable adults. I hope that +Pat has mentioned this to Mr Wilson NO.

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    1. I have indeed informed Mr. Wilson about Father Dallat.

      When Bishop Noel Treanor nominated Father Dallat for service in the Northern Ireland Prison Service I also informed the service about Father Dallat.

      But he was appointed anyway.

      They may have thought that as Dallat was a ladies man, a male only prison was fairly safe?

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  18. Don’t let them do that to you +Pat. I know lay movements who are visiting prisoners in the same way you visited. They have access to private rooms to consult with individuals. TheLegion of Mary is one group who visit. Maybe your vetting needs to be renewed?

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  19. My da calls Dallat ‘Ciaran the Cock’

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  20. Would writing to the Prison help? Rejecting a prisoners choice of Pastoral Visit is a serious issue touching upon the individuals Freedom of Religion as set out in the European Convention of Human Rights.

    I’d be more than happy to pen a letter to the prison if it would be of help.

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  21. Pat, please tell the full truth as all kinds of accusations are being thrown around recklessly. Very unfair to chaplaincy team. If you have relevant information, share it.

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    1. I read they earn £40,000 a year, or more. For what?

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    2. Surely that rotter isn't getting £40K, +Pat? FFS!

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  22. Saints preserve us, surely this fornicator, Ciaran Dallat, will not be allowed minister in a women's' prison or detention centre.

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  23. 14;21. I know a woman who calls him Dallat the Dick. What a nickname for a catholic priest. Shows how far respect has fallen.

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  24. I think it’s unfair to tar the Catholic Chaplaincy with the same brush. Dallat is only ONE of several on the RC Chaplaincy team not to mention volunteers who assist them. I don’t think this decision is down to the chaplains, I think there is another serious issue we are not being told about.

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  25. This is very childish school boy behaviour on the part of the chaplains. I also sense them being threatened by you Pat. Their behaviour suggests they don't have any testicles ����

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    1. We know one of them has two well used ones :-)

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    2. Hahaha brilliant

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    3. It runs in the family.

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  26. There is NOTHING that I have not told.

    Sammy Wilson MP said that Assistant Governor Savage made his division under instructions from the Catholic chaplains.

    I will let readers know anything else I learn.

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    1. Dear Bishop Buckley. In relation to the comment you made at 17:42, would it possible for you either now or in the near future to publish the letter from Mr. Wilson outlining the RC chaplains objection to your visit to HMP Maghaberry,an issue which has clearly given rise to your grievance.

      In the interests of fairness and balance it would assist us journalists and the media at large to possibly carry this justifiable story. This letter need not be published here, but perhaps you are open to sending a copy to a professional email media address?

      Regards, P.

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    2. Mr. Savages comment was made by telephone to Mr. Wilson.

      I suggest you contact Mr. Wilson and the N.I. Prison Sevice for comments.

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  27. Does anyone know how Linda is keeping? The way she was left to miscarry is atrocious. They have no moral compass.

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    1. She is doing very well and has completed her counselling. She is a good, strong, woman.

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    2. Thanks +Pat. I know you did wonderful work for Linda - arranging a meeting with the Bishop for example and other work - unfortunately meeting Noel wasn’t as fruitful as you’d expect from the Catholic hierarchy. Appalling how people are treated when they’ve been wronged by the Church. Talk about salt in wounds.

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  28. +Pat is it true you also ministered to Shane Paul O’Doherty when he was in prison but before he entered Maynooth for the Dublin Diocese ?

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    1. I have been ministering in prisons for 40 years since 1978.

      I have visited prisoners, said Mass in prison and brought Communion to prisoners in the hospital wing.

      I was in several days a week ministering to the Hunger Strikers in 1980 and 1981.

      I celebrated weddings in prison, including that of Patrick Magee, the so called Brighton Bomber.

      I have never breached prison regulations in that 40 years.

      I have also ministered to prison officers.

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    2. PS: I cannot remember if I met Shane Paul O'Doherty in prison.

      But I certainly worked with him on The Big Issues homelessness magazine.

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  29. COPY OF LETTER EMAILED TO MAGHABERRY TODAY:

    I have recently been made aware that Bishop Pat Buckley of the Oratory Society has been denied access to visit a parishioner and I am writing to express my grave concerns about this situation.

    Specifically the Article 9 European Convention right to Freedom of Religion is engaged in this specific instance.

    Myself and others at the Oratory Society take the issue extremely seriously and will be monitoring the situation with great interest.

    Prisons Ombudsman, NI Human Rights Commission and other avenues of redress may be sought if the situation is not remedied to mutual satisfaction.

    We look forward to hearing of a satisfactory outcome from Bishop Buckley.

    Regards,

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    1. Fat lot of good that will do, straight in the bin I would say.

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  30. 'I deleted the comment ascribed to Governor Kennedy because I could not be sure at all that it was from him'

    case closed

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  31. God love ya pat, you have it tough.

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    1. No I don't. Life is good, thank God.

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    2. 20.36: Pat has it tough you say! I know many, many priests - a majority.- who have it tough looking after parish communities of 2/3/4000 homes, with 3/4/5 schools, lots of sick calls, prison and hospital visitation, financial and pastiral administrative duties...etc...but who don't play the "pity me syndrome". Pat is a good worker but so are the majority of priests and often on their own, but who get on with their responsibilities without looking for attention or applause. Let's be fair to all.

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    3. Pat does not have it tough. He is happy and busy.

      There are many good hardworking priests out there.

      99% of the things I do are done below the radar.

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  32. Pat, Does Samny know that you quoted him in that comment?

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    1. I told Sammy I was going to blog about it.

      He told me to quote him.

      Sammy Wilson and I know and trust each other.

      He is a top class constituency MP.

      I emailed him a preview of my Blog yesterday.

      All is totally open.

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    2. Buckley do you not realise that the likes of Sammy Wilson and Paisley et al laugh behind your back and only use you in an attempt for them to conveniently kick the Pope and kick the Catholic Church. Your own language used to describe the Pope is the way a Free Presbyterian would talk and indeed many within the DUP. You are just a stooge for them in their eyes.

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    3. 21.10 you priests should keep away from schools.
      Look what has happened in Keady..no proper mediation skills person.....no proper human resource skills person.
      Then there was a school in Belfast too....the teachers having no proper support system.Go Figure.

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    4. 16.02: You need to go back to school and learn proper English and grammar. Your comment in response to my comment is ignorant, unintelligible and confusing. Your "you priests" phrase suggests you are another anti Catholic crank. Go figure....

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    5. I am not anti catholic nor a crank.Im Catholic.
      Nothing wrong with saying...you priests.
      I believe that priests should keep out of all schools,and that properly trained personnel should be employed to give support to teachers .

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    6. 20.02: What do you know about schools? And, I would never speak to any professional group so dismissively and ignorantly as you do. Having worked in schools for almost 40 years as Chaplain and Chairperson, I know how to carry out my responsibilities in a thoroughly caring, respectful and professional way, having resolved many conflicting situations and often still called upon for my advice and insights. Many of the "you priests" are very often more professional than some principals and teachers. We have much to offer. Sorry to disappoint you.

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    7. Your days involved in schools are numbered....you priests.

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  33. The Shinners are saying that Pat Buckley did not minister to the Hunger Strikers in anyway and that this is untrue. A prominent Shinner known to many and based in West Belfast is saying your claim is false.

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    1. If that is true they are either ignorant or liars.

      I ministered to Brendan "The Dark" Huhes who was a parishioner and led the first Hunger Strike.

      On the Second Hunger Strike I ministered to Bobby Sands and the others in the hospital wing of Long Kesh.

      I said Mass for them on Sundays.

      That is 37 years ago.

      I am sure some people and prisoner officers will remember.

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    2. PS: I am sure that Gerry Adams can put them right.

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  34. I wish someone would "put you right"

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    1. What a puerile and hideous comment to make 23:01

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    2. that could be construed as a threat. Pat may have to take action and the police will find you via your IP.

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    3. "Put them right" -- actually Adams no longer blesses kneecapping but there are recalcitrant gunmen who do.

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  35. 24 of the 83 comments so far from P. B.

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  36. I should have thought there would be some sort of extreme vetting process, especially after the Jimmy Savile scandal, or statutory arrangements for provision of government funded chaplaincy appointments.

    I imagine such an appointment would require someone whose integrity is beyond reproach, not some scandal ridden individual straight off the front page of Sunday Life.



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    1. Who would have thought it? Rugby players are nowadays held to higher standards than senior Catholic priests.

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    2. Good point. But then, so much more is naturally expected of rugby players than if Roman Catholic priests. And why not? They're closer to God.

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    3. Where I wonder is the truth in this drawn out saga? Having suggested all kinds of sinister motivations, isn't it time to have the full evidence before further outrageous and slanderous comments are printed? In fairness to all concerned and as a principle of justice, TRUTH is imperative today.

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    4. 10.03: The Know all, slapper Carta speaks again - he, who is a species full of twisted hatred, nastiness and believes it's justifiable to be vulgar and dangerously abusive.

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  37. Dallas for sure, silly man.

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  38. THE FACTS TO DATE:

    1. I have being going into N.I. prisons on ecclesiastical visits for 40 years.

    2. Two weeks ago a prisoner who attends The Oratory put a formal request in writing to the Prison asking for an ecclesiastical visit from me.

    3. That visit was refused.

    4. Asset. Governor Savage told Sammy Wilson that the refusal was requested/demanded by the RC chaplains.

    5. Sammy Wilson has now written to the head governor David Kennedy to allow the visit.

    We await Governor Kennedy' response.

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    1. If clerical lothario, Six Dinner Dallat, is behind all of this, then he is a bigger moron than already known.

      Pat, they may not like (I personally do like you), they may not agree with you (I disagree with you on many issues) but, for crying out loud, it was not you who behaved in such a scandalous manner with a female parishioner!

      Dallat alone is responsible for the mess he created and, if he is acting out of some form of vengefulness and/or bloodymindedness towards you, then he really hasn’t a titter of wit.

      What’s more, this is going to backfire on him bigtime and burn his ass.

      Furthermore, he has learnt not an ounce of humility and is remorseless about the grave scandal he has given to the faithful.

      Kudos to whoever came up with “Six Dinners” Dallat - a reference to a story about a cat who has six different identities - gets six different dinners everyday, sleeps in six different beds, gets coddled in six different houses - until he is caught! Just Lothario Dallat - until he was caught!

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    2. Thank you 15:01

      I do not expect anyone to agree with me about anything.

      But I do expect that all of us, no matter who or what we are, are equal before the law and have equal human, civil and religious rights.

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  39. I think it was wrong of Savage to discuss client with Wilson.
    Wilson had no business interfering , nor any other so called political person...they are now defunct in all but name.
    It was also wrong of those so called clerics to interfere...none of their business.
    If all that u say is true. Pat, there is a major scandal brewing because of abuse of powers including Savage.
    Savage needs sacked pronto.

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    1. 15.57: No one, including Pat, is looking bright or good in this saga. Lots of uncertain facts, deleting of scripts, hearsay, different narratives, denial and innuendo. We deserve the full truth. TRUTH.

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    2. I want the full truth more than anyone.

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  40. Perhaps the catholic hierarchy could learn a little lesson,before it is too late,in the way they handle situations involving clergy’s usage and abuse of women. It’s a lesson both Hollywood and latterly our very own rugby bosses have learned, rather painfully. It’s called #metoo.

    A Girlie

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    1. They will never learn, because believe they have nothing to learn. How could they? Like Cahal Daly, they believe (and I am neither joking nor exaggerating) that when they speak, it is actually God who speaks through them.

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    2. You can blame Jesus for that one Mags. He said, “whoever hears you, hears me” !! (Luke 10:16).

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    3. 21.15: Magna, yes, they - Bishops - believe God speaks through them and rightly so. Better than having satan, as in your case, speak through you with your poisonous rants.

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    4. 21.30 God only speaks through a bishop when he remains in the teaching of Jesus. Outside the teaching of Jesus a bishop has no authority.

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    5. Well and irrefutably said, 22:27.

      Jesus is the source of divine teaching, not the bishops. You would think that this should go without saying...but not where 2000 yrs of Roman
      Catholic traditional teaching has clogged the doctrinal drain.

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  41. Did your parishioner identify himself as RC to prison authorities?

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    1. I don't know.

      But when not at The Oratory he worships at a Pentecostal evangelical church.

      In any event any prisoner should be allowed to any clergyman he needs.

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    2. So the Oratory and Pentecostal? Sounds like a very confused guy. Maybe it’s for your own safety they won’t let visit?

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  42. 21.15 I wonder did Ms Murphy hear the voice of god when Bishop Eamon Casey induced her to get the knickers off. Or did Bishop Kieran Conry’s bird hear God’s voice whispering sweet nothings when he bedded her. Did the Edinburgh priests hear the voice of God when my fellow townie Keith Patrick O’Brien propositioned them. 21.15, get real you brainwashed clown.

    Dalriada Dick

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    1. The answer to all those questions is NO Dick. Have another Black Bush there why don’t ye as you vegetate on yer big fat arse up there in Ballycastle-O!

      Buffoon!

      And yer comments should have been at 21:30. Yer giving out to Magna Carta at 21:15. Ye wouldn’t want to upset another drunk now would ye?

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  43. 21.54 - I wonder did all the "victims" have a conscience in their intimate moments when, as adults, they too had responsibilities? Get real, you clown!

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  44. You say 11:13 that this will come back to "bite Ciaran Dallat on the ass". It's not the first time Ciaran has been bitten on the ass!

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    1. 23:07, Jeez! You mean someone actually bit that guy in(or on) the ass?!!!!!!!😲

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