Thursday, 24 May 2018

DROMORE DIOCESE IMPLODING

 
CANON FRANCIS BROWN

Concerns raised over diocese's handling of allegation against Canon Francis Brown
It was announced last weekend that an allegation had been made against Canon Francis Brown

CONCERNS have been raised over how the Catholic diocese of Dromore has handled an allegation made against the administrator of Newry Cathedral.
It was revealed last weekend that Canon Francis Brown had stepped aside from public ministry while the allegation against him was investigated.
However, it was claimed today that the priest remained in ministry in the diocese for six weeks after being made aware of the accusation.
The Nolan Show on BBC Radio Ulster reported Canon Brown was told about the allegation by a member of the public at the beginning of March 2018 and again a number of weeks later.
It was reported he refused to make his diocese aware of the allegation and said it was not his responsibility to refer himself to Church authorities.
However, diocesan guidelines state when someone makes a complaint they should be provided with contact details of the designated liaison person as the disclosing person may wish to ask questions later.
While the nature of the allegation had been previously unclear, the Nolan Show claimed it had spoken to the alleged victim who said it was a "sexual abuse allegation" and relates to a period when the priest was in St Colman's College, Newry.
In a statemen the Dromore diocese said it was aware of the "suggestions and comments" made on the radio show.
"The diocese also wishes to clarify that Canon Brown was advised of an allegation and agreed to step aside from all ministry within the diocese and associated bodies," it said.
"While he may currently be named on some school websites as a member of the safeguarding team he has voluntarily stepped aside from all ministry and such publications are under revision.
"This status will remain while the police investigation is ongoing."
It was also reported the priest continues to be listed as a contact for safeguarding issues for schools in the parish.
But a CCMS spokesman said Canon Brown had "stepped aside from his roles as a school governor in St Clare’s Abbey Primary School, Newry and St Joseph’s High School, Newry" pending the outcome of the police investigation.
"Arrangements are being made to replace him and all school literature is being updated to reflect the new governance structures at both schools."
A solicitor for Canon Brown said he "categorically asserts that he has never at any time behaved inappropriately to any child or adult".


"Police have not asked to meet with Canon Brown and, if they do make such a request, he will co-operate fully with them in any investigation which they undertake," they added.




Claims of 'illegal' adoption at former Marianvale home
By Ben Robinson & Michael Buchanan
·   

A BBC investigation has uncovered allegations of 'illegal' cross-border adoptions at a home run by Catholic nuns in Northern Ireland.
Evidence suggests some children may have been moved out of the UK without their mothers' consent from Marianvale mother and baby home in Newry.
One woman was issued with three birth certificates in three countries.
The Catholic Good Shepherd Sisters said adoptions were "conducted strictly in accordance with the legislation".
One of the three birth certificates issued as part of Karen Trimnell's adoption to the USA contained many false details.
The Marianvale mother and baby home in County Down operated between 1955 and 1984.
It was one of a network of institutions in Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland, which offered women the voluntary option for those who were unmarried to give birth in private and give their babies up for adoption.
However, BBC radio programme File on 4 has heard claims that some adoptions were not voluntary and uncovered evidence that laws may have been broken.
These include falsified details on official documents. Campaigners claim this may have been to facilitate the illegal movement of babies across state borders. Karen, 49, an English teacher in New York, was born in 1968.

Her mother travelled to Marianvale and gave birth at a nearby hospital. Karen believes she was moved illegally from Northern Ireland to the Republic of Ireland - where she was cared for by another Catholic order - before being adopted by a couple from Texas in the USA.
Three certificates
Karen's concerns are based on a stash of documents charting her early life which she passed to File on 4.
They revealed that she had been issued with a birth certificate in Northern Ireland which correctly recorded all the details of her birth.
But two days earlier, another birth certificate had been generated for her in the Republic of Ireland containing false information, including changing her date and place of birth as well as listing her future adopted parents as her natural parents.
It is not clear who was responsible for submitting this false information to the register.
adopted by an older couple who died when she was just a teenager
Karen's birth was then registered for a third time when she arrived in the USA and she is concerned that laws were broken to facilitate an adoption for a couple who were becoming too old to adopt in America.
"They died when I was a teenager and that was going to have an effect on anybody's life," she said.
"And the fact that their health and age was overlooked because of the desire of the people who ran the orphanage, I don't think is justifiable or acceptable."
The BBC has also seen the adoption consent form signed by Karen's birth mother which agreed she could be taken into the care of a Catholic adoption organisation in the Republic of Ireland.
This document appears to have been signed after the falsified birth certificate in the Republic of Ireland had been created.
At the time a baby could only be moved from Northern Ireland to the Republic of Ireland following a court order or with the express consent of the mother.
Toni Maguire, an archaeologist and anthropologist, believes Karen may have been taken illegally to the Republic of Ireland before her mother had consented to it.
"If you are taking a baby from one country basically to another country, I would call it trafficking," she said.
"If you then are giving that child or allowing that child to be adopted, how do we deal with that? Is that illegal?"
The BBC has discovered that Karen is one of scores of babies who were born at Marianvale and taken out of Northern Ireland for adoption.
File on 4 accessed the home's baptism book, which revealed extensive movement of babies and women across state borders.
The ledger contained details of more than 800 babies born to Marianvale women.
The BBC has established at least 25 babies left Northern Ireland, mostly going to families in the Republic of Ireland, but at least two went to the USA.
Meanwhile, at least 120 women came from outside Northern Ireland to Marianvale, from as far afield as Fife, London, Plymouth and Manchester.
Patrick Corrigan, of Amnesty International, said: "This now cries out for a thorough, independent investigation and I think what will certainly need to happen is that there is a strong cross-border cross-jurisdictional dimension to any investigation into what happened in Northern Ireland."
In response, the Sisters of Our Lady of Charity of the Good Shepherd said: "We utterly reject any suggestion that illegal adoptions were conducted from Marianvale.
"All adoptions were conducted strictly in accordance with the legislation which then applied.

"Some women did not proceed with adoption, as was originally planned, and with the support of families, took their babies home."

PAT SAYS:

There has been one disaster after another in Dromore diocese in recent months.

- Tales of sexual and physical abuse at St. Colman's College.

- Bishop McAreavey celebrates the funeral of the paedophile priest -Father Finnegan.

- Mc Areavey has to resign.

- Retired BishopBoyce - who covered up sexual abuse in Donegal sent to look after Dromore.

- Cathedral administrator resigns over sexual abuse allegation.

- Dromore nuns outed for engaging in over the border, illegal adoptions.

- Dromore diocese continues to make a mess of handling reports and allegations.


Dromore diocese is now totally disgraced.

It should be dissolved as a small diocese and made part of a bigger diocese.

The whole thing shows that the Roman Catholic Church is still covering and mishandling abuse cases.

70 comments:

  1. Canon Brown is and always will be a gentleman and sincere Pastor.
    He's innocent until proven guilty, the truth will win the day.
    God bless and guide our Church in these troubled and challenging times.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. The problem is not the troubled and challenging times.

      The problem is the ocean of corruption within the institution.

      Delete
    2. I don’t know the man but he is innocent until found guilty and should be treated as innocent

      Delete
    3. Thanks Pat. I respect that the Church has it's serious and grave failings but Rome wasn't built in a day and I firmly believe that The same God in which we all have some Faith in will guide it through these issues which are set to challenge us all including you Priest's or Bishops.
      Life throws tasks and burdens to us all and I know it's the way we face and manage them that sees us through but I believe the Church will win the day if only we all had patience, respect and Love towards all our brothers and sisters in Christ to make this happen.

      I understand your frustration and anger and the way you have been treated by the Church, but it fails me the way you as a man of God puts that message out, very unsavoury and unfair towards many that you blog about.
      I hope you respect my opinion Pat.

      Delete
    4. Another Administor from the Dromore Cathedral, Mr Terry Rafferty, also strongly protested his innocence when allegations were made against him and charges by PSNI.
      Just before trial , he ended up pleading guilty to sexual abuse of a child and is now on a sex offenders’ register. . He knew all along his guilt !

      Delete
    5. Terry Rafferty was a very proud, self-satisfied Irish PP of the old school until his downfall. He had hyper elevated self-confidence.

      Delete
    6. One of the many entertaining lines in Pat's must-read memoirs was his avowal that under no circumstances would he ever again live under the same roof with an Irish PP.

      Delete
    7. Pleading guilty just before a trial is a well-established device to get a lighter punishment. I don't think he went to chokey.

      Delete
    8. A spell in HMP Maghaberry with the Belfast lags, who have zero tolerance of his disgusting proclivities, would have put manners on the ex-Maynooth senior cantor, Terry Rafferty. Dromore diocese should be put into special measures. Putting a Maynooth acedemic (McAreavey) with no pastoral experience in charge was bound to lead to this. Professors and desk men turned bishops have been a disaster mostly. Connell, Drennan, McAreavey, Dermo, EM, Noel Treanor, Cahal Daly, William Philbin, Kevin McNamara, Brendan Leahy, the current bishop of Derry (I can't remember his name), Vincent Nichols, John Arnold.

      Delete
  2. The Church is Worldwide and will continue to be under threat but it will survive.
    The Church co-operates with Authorities and will continue to do so.
    However things takes time and Charlie Brown was to cut down the number of Dioceses and that will happen but takes time under Canon Law.
    There is many GOOD Bishops and Clergy in Ireland and credit should be given to them never once has this blog highlighted the Good Bishops and Clergy.
    Just poor utter hatred towards Holy Mother Church but it will survive these difficult times and learn from them however those who do not wish to be part of the Church should leave now.
    As EM has stated it is HIS Diocese and he was appointed by the Holy See

    ReplyDelete
  3. I concur with 01.08: All of us are innocent until proven guilty. However this core principle of our democracy is ignored by Pat and his fellow haters, who, whenever possible, contribute to and encourage much vitriol, ridiculing and speculative innuendo to take precedence. They act as judge, jury and executioner. Surely their merciless mindset is anathema to all Christians who try to take Christ's command seriously - "Judge not and you will not be judged yourselves; do not condemn and you will not be condemned yourselves..". And to this Jesus asks and invites us - "..to be compassionate as your heavenly Father is compassionate. ". This is my approach and one all Christians should follow. There is a justice system for dealing with wrongdoers of any kind.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Yes Judas is judged, the Jews are judged for killing Jesus, the women stoned to death under the faith that some say was shaped into Christianity, babies are judged for carrying original sin and being anti-God by nature and you have the cheek to speak about innocent until proven guilty? Even the Mass accuses us of killing Jesus by our sins and thus needing his human sacrifice to atone.

      Delete
    2. The Mass accuses us of no such thing. You show total ignorance of what the Mass actually means and what it celebrates.

      Delete
    3. 11.59 Judas judges himself. Peter is no better than Judas. They both betray Jesus. Peter redeems himself by weeping for his sins and throws himself in the mercy of Christ. Judas could have done the same. God judges no-one.....When we see ourselves in the light of God's love, we judge ourselves.

      Delete
  4. MourneManMichael25 May 2018 at 10:14

    +Pat: the "ocean of corruption" you refer to begs many questions.
    Leaving to one side Canon Brown's situation, for I believe in innocence until proven otherwise, I hereafter refer to the continuing disclosures and evidence of guilt by RC clerics.

    Given the evidence of abusive RC clerics, over so many years, persistently and seriously ignoring the tenets of the religion they allegedly profess and uphold as clerical leaders, is it not reasonable to conclude that those abusive clerics did not actually believe in that religion, or in its moral and ethical stance?
    I can not accept that such persistent widespread abuse is but the result of individual clerics' "weakness of the flesh."

    For a long time now I have been convinced that a very significant number of RC clerics neither believe in Christianity, or the foundation, nature and authenticity of the RC church. I think they lead a sham life where they have found a secure niche role, status and income, and being reluctant to give up its advantages, they stay on in role lacking the courage and integrity to step out of their comfort zone.
    Additionally, I think a much greater number harbour significant doubts about their role and the religion they profess, but from a mixture of personal timidity, financial dependence, lack of attractive alternative options and allied concerns, they simply "keep their head down" and continue in their comfortable role, not "rocking any boats".
    Having said this, I do acknowledge that there are indeed devout, honourable highly moral caring clerics, and that their efforts and devotion is much overshadowed by the wrongdoings of clerical colleagues.
    But given the totality of abuse over such long periods coming to light, and I suspect this is but the tip of the 'iceberg', I am obliged to hold the logical conclusions I offer above.
    MMM

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. MMM, I think that your analysis is correct.

      For so many Catholicism is a religion, not a spirituality.

      Religion on its own is about herds and herding.

      Without authentic spirituality religion is empty and dangerous.

      The RC Church is just an institution.

      Many in it are institutionalised.

      Delete
    2. A typically light-hearted comment by MMM. That guy is so funny!

      Delete
    3. The Catholic Church is not “just an institution”. That is your own jaundiced and prejudiced caricature, Pat.

      Within the Church there are vast and rich resources of life-giving and life-enhancing spiritualities.

      Delete
    4. The Catholic Church (in all its branches) is spiritually, the Body of Christ.

      The Roman Catholic Institution, as far as I am concerned is run by the Prince of Darkness.

      Delete
    5. MournemanMichael25 May 2018 at 13:26

      +Pat: I agree the distinction between religion and spirituality. I understand the former as a set of prescribed beliefs promulgated by organisations, such as in the case of the RC church through its hierarchical clerical institution. I understand spirituality as describing an awareness of others needs and our mutual interdependence from which arises care and concern for others and our fragile planet.
      I believe spirituality does not presuppose or require belief in any God, religion or it's various institutions, and certainly not the farrago of the RC church. That many find and develop spirituality through religious beliefs does not to my mind validate or authenticate religion or its beliefs.
      Whether or not religious belief is well founded is at centre of eternal debate. For my part I believe humankind has developed a "need" for religion as our evolved intelligent consciousness struggles to make sense out of our existence, environment and the inevitable reality of our demise.
      MMM

      Delete
    6. More merry talk from MMM. He should do stand-up.

      Delete
    7. MourneManMichael25 May 2018 at 16:29

      Thank you Anon @ 14:19 & 12:33 for your kind observation. Indeed I am grateful.
      Professor Robert Provine, a neuroscientist at the Univerity of Maryland published a book:
      "Laughter: A scientific Investigation".
      Studies by Provine and colleagues show that laughter is very often less to do with the "joke", but more to do with demonstrating understanding and friendship towards others.

      So I have these thoughts in mind when valuing your comments. Some others may deride my blog comments, but it takes one as deep thinking and perspicacious as you to understand its true significance.
      With grateful thanks.
      MMM

      Delete
    8. Holding my sides.

      Delete
    9. 12.48 - And pray, tell us learned one, who is the Prince of Darkness? I see quite a lot of darkness in your venom, incitement to hatred, your vengeful heart, your bigotry and your own moral blindness! All totally against the spirit of CHRIST (if you know him)!

      Delete
  5. Pat,it is rather untruthful to say Bishop Boyce covered up abuse. He had had to clean up a major mess. I may not have much time for him, but at least be truthful.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. From Breaking the Silence by Martin Ridge. Seeing the BBC Spotlight special on Eugene Greene in October 2002 prompted one Donegal priest, Columba Nee, to put pen to paper. In a letter headlined ‘Response to Sexual Abuse Allegations Woefully Inadequate’, published in the Donegal News on 8 November 2002, Nee wrote about the effect that revelations about clerical sexual abuse cases had on the Church and on him personally. Greene’s crimes, Nee wrote, were ‘sickening and revolting and cannot be excused in any way’. What upset Nee most though was the ‘woeful’ response of the Church to questions posed by the Spotlight programme. In particular the lack of diocesan files, which could explain for example why Greene was brought out of semi-retirement, troubled him. Nee noted that the Hussey Commission into clerical abuse, chaired by retired District Court Judge Gillian Hussey, would not have to spend much time in Donegal, since it relied on paper files to get to the truth. ‘Have files been destroyed or were complaints never recorded?’ he asked. He described how his faith in Church leaders had been shaken by the way paedophile priests were handled. The Church needed to learn from the disaster, bring it out in the open and deal with it honestly. Those who covered up or ignored crimes shared in the guilt, as did those who ‘passed the buck and made pathetic excuses in the face of sheer evil’. Nee’s words burned with passion. He spoke on behalf of many ordinary Catholics who felt shocked and betrayed by the Church, and many ordinary priests who shared their feelings. He compared their outrage to the righteous anger Jesus felt when he entered the temple in Jerusalem and found it violated by traders and money-changers. ‘People need to know that many ordinary priests share their outrage and disappointment,’ he concluded. ‘I wonder will anything really ever change in our Church? Time will tell.
      Police work is all about gathering evidence, whether a tin of paint and some brushes or a witness statement or the paperwork from a report to a health board official or a diocesan office of suspected wrongdoing to support a criminal complaint. Yet in investigating Greene we were hampered by the lack of evidence. There were reports raising concerns in 1971, again in 1976 and twice in 1995 that I knew about, either from our own investigation or what Spotlight had uncovered. In November 1995 Bishop Boyce was told about the concerns over Greene’s conduct, yet there was nothing in the diocesan files. Nee hit the nail on the head when he asked, ‘Have files been destroyed or were complaints never recorded?’ Why was nothing ever written down? Over the years I had been given tantalising pieces of information which suggested that there was an awareness at senior levels in the diocese of the problem, even if there were no written records.
      In 1982 a new bishop, Seamus Hegarty, succeeded McFeely in the Raphoe diocese. Meanwhile Greene continued to prey on young boys in Glenties, then in Gaoth Dobhair, then moving on to Cill Mhic Réanáin where he was promoted to parish priest. ‘Most unusually’, the Spotlight documentary noted, ‘Greene’s new job was subject to a review after three years.’ In 1994 Greene moved to live in semi-retirement in Loch an Iúir. When Hegarty was moved to Derry in 1994, the diocesan vicar general Fr Dan Carr acted for a while as temporary administrator to the diocese of Raphoe, and he brought Greene out of semi-retirement as an assistant priest. Spotlight discovered two more complaints from this period. ‘One was in a letter sent to the diocesan headquarters outlining a specific allegation’, it reported. ‘The priest who sent it received no reply. The other complaint was made verbally by a curate to his parish priest. The senior priest in question denies he received any complaint. Fr Dan Carr denies he received any complaints. And this diocese says it has no complaints on file about Fr Greene.’

      Delete
    2. Columba Nee, who used to celebrate the Mass of Ages occassionaly, is now out of ministry and working in a homeless shelter in London. A big loss to the diocese of Raphoe.

      Delete
    3. 15:34 I believe your information may be incorrect.

      Delete
    4. In what way?

      Delete
  6. I would very much like to be in harmony with the several posters today, one is very much innocent until proven guilty. We must never seek to prejudice a case by careless chatter or comparing a person/case with like for like. Please allow the law and ultimately justice to take its course. As I sit here at morning coffee following a delicious kedgeree let us not have a trial by blog of anyone.

    ReplyDelete
  7. You must as fat as a fool by now
    Talking about food every day
    I don’t see any harmony in your posts.
    Do u think posters are less informed about the law just because we post anonymously?

    ReplyDelete
  8. Wish you wd go away to some feast or other and leave us posters in peace.

    ReplyDelete
  9. Who really cares about your eating habits Cecil ?

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I do. Her comments are charming. What did you have to eat? Sour grapes washed down by bitter lemon?

      Delete
    2. Grapes and lemon sound good...and very healthy. Cheers!!!

      Delete
    3. 12.30 I am so glad you regard my musings as charming, thank you. I am currently contemplating what to have for Luncheon. By way of gentle correction I am 'He' and not 'She'. It is so jolly that all views and free speech are tolerated on such a blog. We should value our right to speak and oppose indifference, bigotry and censorship in every form.

      Delete
    4. I heard the Wounded Healer one Ash Wednesday remind the Armagh Cathedral congregation to "observe the discipline of a meal and two collations" that day. Obviously worried that they would not know what it meant, he added quickly "that means a meal and two light snacks".

      Delete
  10. The seminary in Rhode Island will have no new entrants this Autumn. I hope that a similar fate befalls Maynooth.

    https://nyp.st/2LqaOEH

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. It is still only May. However, I imagine gay marriage will also gradually have an affect in intake.

      Delete
  11. “... relates to a period when the priest was in St Colman's College”

    It’s that horrible place again, +Pat, it should be closed down.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. A lot of places could be bulldozed!

      Delete
    2. Keep priests out of schools.

      Delete
    3. 15.01: Tell us why, enlightened one, the rational, intelligent way you arrived at this conclusion. Rationally and intelligently and not through vulgar expletives and offensive language and angry soundbytes - if you are capable of such intelligent reasoning.

      Delete
    4. St Colman's College, St Michael's College, St Kieran's College ... Need I go on?

      Delete
    5. Parochial House Dunloy

      Delete
  12. MMM at 10.14, an interesting analysis. Thought provoking and as a priest it challenges me. Yes, there are men who should never have been ordained, some presently who are utterly careless, some who struggle with personal faith and with the flaws of the institution which often seem irredeemable. There are others who continue their vocation with dedication, fidelity and with genuine generosity of spirit, believing in the gift of priesthood. However, after much soul searching through psychotherapy and counselling, retreats and personal struggles, I recognise my own humanity in all its brokenness but also with its strengths and creativity. Living priesthood today is an enormous challenge and unless each priest tries to work with his own humanity, recognising his need for on-going inner renewal and understanding and unless we each root ourselves firmly in prayer, then we can easily lose our way. There are many who try to live the ideal but with immense difficulty. Society has changed so much, morally, culturally, socially, religiously and culturally, that often we seem lost as to our true relevance, but I won't give up despite the enormity of the challenge.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Good for you 12.29,not much difference to the rest of us the sheep.
      Life is a constant struggle.
      Just think how parents have to struggle when their children stop going to mass etc.
      Life changes, and we all must move on and let go of certain old ways....they weren’t always the best way.

      Delete
  13. Pat please show some mercy, compassion and forgiveness towards your fellow human beings. Its at the core of our Christian teachings and values.
    I believe you have become institutionalised by the wrong from the past and fails to let go and move on and start praying for new beginnings.
    I've been sexually abused by a family member many years ago, I don't harbour any pain or hurt but do pray every day for forgiveness of the person that offended me. I stand at his grave often and think of his whereabouts and his Eternal home.

    Arrogance and ignorance as I've learned through my own short comings serve no propose in lif and inevitably bring one down in many fronts and thats the Church included.
    Live life and love life and in doing so let other live and love.

    ReplyDelete
  14. Pat, if you had a vote in the abortion referendum down south would you vote yes or no. I'm firmly on the no side.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. I am very torn about the vote.

      I 100% agree with the sad termination of life in hard cases.

      I worry about having abortion on demand for 12 weeks.

      The fact that I do not have a vote in the ROI means I do not have to decide.

      I wish they were planning different legislation.

      Delete
    2. I think you can be pro-life and still recognise that the law will inevitably be changed.

      God’s Law and Man’s are diverging at a great rate. For example Adultery was once a criminal offence. It doesn’t change the morality of the issue now that it is legal.

      I think those involved in the pro-life movement need to recognise and accept the inevitability of the change of law. The battle is simply moving to another front: to classrooms, living rooms, kitchen tables and public houses.

      It is here that myself and other people who believe that all human life is sacred can influence the issue. Not with dogma and harsh rhetoric but with compassion: the soft but unyielding power of compassion and reason.

      Delete
    3. Today we are being asked one question do we want to remove ftom the constitution the right to life of the unborn, or not? That is all.

      If the yes campaign win and the right to life ceases to exist in the constitution it does not make aboution legal. It does not give women choice. It give the oireachtas choice, that is all.

      As Pat says, i wish they were proposing something different.. consequently I voted no.

      Delete
    4. Good for you. It's hard to believe that Catholic Ireland will be the first country to introduce abortion by the popular vote.

      Delete
    5. The Protestant church leaders have been very sound on the referendum debate. Kudos to them.

      Delete
  15. Archbishop Eamon should probably have stayed off Twitter this morning. He’s not getting a warm reception.

    ReplyDelete
  16. Why does a seminary have double beds? Answers on a postcard.

    https://www.maynoothcampus.com/rooms/

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Do you not find it a bit odd, 15.59, that anyone can book one of these rooms? The link you give is clearly not for the seminary, but for rooms that can be booked by guests It has nothing to do with the seminary.

      This is abundantly clear if you read the "About" section of the website:
      https://www.maynoothcampus.com/about/

      Delete
    2. @16.32 Why are you using my name incorrectly to make your point, how childish of you. I strenuously deny making that post and could I ask you to desist from using my name in future. There are some immature individuals using other people’s names on this blog and I urge the blog owner to take action. People reading @16.32 know that is NOT my style of writing.
      Cecily

      Delete
    3. Those bedrooms (I've lived in them) are owned by and located in the seminary. Indeed the booking policy reminds guests of that and asks that they respect it. Try telling that to the drunken hen parties wandering the cloisters at night, and the unmarried couples, gay and straight, who book double bed rooms, no questions asked.

      https://www.maynoothcampus.com/policy/

      Delete
    4. The highly profitable Maynooth Campus accommodation company is a joint venture between the seminary and Maynooth University.

      The seminary owns all the bedrooms on the historic south campus, plus those on the newer north campus halls named after rich American donors, eg Riordan Hall. The seminary will let anyone, literally anyone stay overnight if they flash the cash.

      Pat could stay there with his husband and have a romantic breakfast in Pugin Hall. What a parody of a seminary.

      Delete
    5. And I suppose you think you're the only one called "Cecily", Cecily? You actually look like the childish one.

      Delete
    6. Pat, do you fancy a stay in the Dublin suite (Dermo's resting place) in Maynooth for you and your better half? My treat.

      Delete
  17. Terry Rafferty’s downfall being that of a sexual predator of a child .
    Justice was served with a final minute guilty plea - despite his public denials and people to licandles and pray for him.

    ReplyDelete
  18. @16.37 People subject to any investigation should not be judged by you or anyone else based on another case. You could prejudice a criminal investigation by not allowing someone a fair hearing. Unless you want to be dealt with by that same law you should stop assuming that someone is guilty before a trial.

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. What are you on about? Terry Rafferty was tried and found guilty by his own admission.

      Delete
  19. Today's blog issue traces back to Boyce again. For 6 weeks he has once again enabled an abuser to remain in ministry. His reputation as an enabler is well earned (again)

    ReplyDelete
  20. From the Maynooth Campus website lol: "South campus rooms, i.e., Suites, Superiors, Classics and College Rooms, are in buildings that form part of the National Seminary of St Patrick’s College, Maynooth. Guests are asked to have regard for the rights and privacy of resident staff and students for the priesthood, and to respect the particular environment of the Seminary."

    ReplyDelete
    Replies
    1. Please may I book a room for a threesome?

      Delete
    2. Stop the hen night processions down the cloisters if you're that bothered. It's great that St Joseph's Young Priest Society, the National Collection and the US Friends of Maynooth keep it open.

      Delete