Wednesday, 9 May 2018

IRISH COLLEGE ROME - EXPULSIONS FOR HOMOSEXUALITY



NEWS IS COMING IN FROM ROME SAYING THAT TWO SEMINARIANS AT THE IRISH COLLEGE HAVE BEEN SENT HOME TO IRELAND FOR INVOLVEMENT IN HOMOSEXUAL ACTIVITY.

One of the seminarians is the Dublin man Connor Gannon who was taken out of Maynooth by Archbishop Diarmuid Martin because of "strange goings on".

CONNOR GANNON
The other seminarian is reputed to be Sean Fitzpatrick - a seminarian for the Diocese of Kildare and Laughlin.


SEAN FITZPATRICK WITH BISHOP DENIS NULTY OF KILDARE
This is the latest in a long line of problems like this at The Irish College involving:

- Seminarians accessing porn on computers within the college.

- Seminarians receiving sexualized phone calls from other seminarians in the middle of the night.

- Sexualised notes being put under seminarian's doors.

- Seminarians underpants being stolen from the college laundry.

- Seminarians visiting gay bars and saunas in Rome.

- Seminarians having public sex at venues in Rome.

- Seminarians and priests being beaten and robbed by male prostitutes in Rome.


This is also bad news for Archbishop Diarmuid Martin who moved Connor Gannon and others last year to Rome to get them away from "strange goings on" in Maynooth.




In fact, Diarmuid, with the best of intentions, was moving his seminarians from the frying pan into the fire.

Both Maynooth and The Irish College are totally discredited seminaries.

Maynooth should definitely be closed.

I also wonder if it is possible, at all, to reform The Irish College.

The bigger problem, of course, is the actual homosexualization of the Catholic priesthood.

This is one, if not the greatest, crisis facing the Catholic church in these times.


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187 comments:

  1. Ah look. Sean is a nice guy to be honest. I don't know the Conor chap. God brought them together. Now they are sent out with nothing but each other and the Word of God. I am glad they foumd each other and hopefully they will make a fulfilling relationship together.

    Best of luck lads.

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    1. God? Even God cannot get two men to fall in love and stay together for life in monongamous bliss. I am gay but it is laughable that gay men want people to believe that their relationships are as stable as they would be if they were man and woman. The failure rate is nearly total.

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      Not universally true but a fair point. I do know some great gay couples.

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    3. Infidelity is very common, almost universal in gay relationships.

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  2. +Pat, I’ve followed your blog for a good while and I have to say the recent postings and enlightenment have reduced me to a state of depression. I feel like - what’s the point going on - I’ve always held out that we can have hope in the church and it being reformed. I think it is beyond reform. Unsuitable men are going forward for whatever reason to become ordained.

    It’s time to hand the church over to the laity and let the true message of Jesus shine through.

    Abolish man made priesthood- insist on these leeches getting real gainful employment and sell off excess church property to settle the abuse bill. Jesus did not set down a specific criteria so why let canon law say otherwise.

    Hell will be made up of mostly catholic clergy. Mark my words.

    I’m fuming with this filthy rotten institution.

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    1. hand it over to the laity -- who naturally would never indulge in gay sex

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    2. 02:25 but the laity didn’t promise celibacy. Clerics are liars and satanic in a lot of cases. It used to be a case of hiding in the closet. Now it’s a case of hiding behind a cassock. Most likely a lace frilly one.

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    3. "Hell will be made up of mostly catholic clergy." I am no fan of the priesthood but I would never wish Hell on them. What a disgraceful passive aggressive hate statement. Even if Hell does exist a God would not tell us for human nature being what it is would want people to go there. Even the Bible says that we are always tainted by evil no matter what we do and human experience shows that to be true so it follows that hell preachers are not as much about warning us about hell as they want us to think. Spite has a role to play.

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  3. Word from Maynooth is that an Armagh seminarian is getting hot and "very heavy handed" with a fellow seminarian and Fanny Mullaney knows all about it.

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    1. Would this be poor Sean?

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  4. Incident happened in the last week of April. I believe they were found out the following day. Somewhat ironically, this all happened after an event celebrating 50 years of Humanae Vitae.
    Sean Fitzpatrick had previously been in seminary for five years but left suddenly. Don't know why... But anyway K & L took him back two years ago.

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    1. A greater acceptance of "strange goings on" allowed for his return. Was this not his 3rd attempt??

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  5. I knew it would be Connor Gannon.

    Connor would have loved his time in Rome. A handsome, educated man such as he will be ok in life. His priesthood would have been a shipwreck and he'd have been uncovered in his forties, when career options are narrower.

    The unfortunate thing is that so many modern sems want to have it all. It's Jekyll and Hyde. Pious seminarian by day with platitudes on Twitter, sauna-goer by night with unpious flirting on Grindr.

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    1. I don't know Conor Gannon, but your comment about Jekyll and Hyde is so true. These guys wanting it all is what annoys the hell out of so many people, that and the hypocrisy it involves.

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    2. Connor should be made pay back all he money he wasted from Dublin. No wonder the Jesuits and he didn’t last long. They are no idiots like Dublin.

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    3. It costs at least €30k a year to train a sem.

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    4. It costs €30k a year per sem because of the need to heat a 200year old building to the point that all the windows and doors need to be open.

      It does not need to cost that much but the bishops bill the diocese that much. An easy way of figuring out the real cost is to ask how much it costs to educate, house and feed a student in a boarding school - because very few will go over €10k.

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    5. The seminary subsidises the Pontifical University, including the fees of the lay theology students.

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    6. @13.19.
      Thats a rediculous set up. The Pontifical college should be run as a self sustaining entity or not at all.

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    7. Capital works to the Pontifical University lecture halls and offices are paid out of the Seminary Repair and Maintenance Fund, according to the latest PU annual report. It also notes declining lay student numbers and the growing tendancy of lay students to enrol on the joint theology-arts degree as an easier way to enrol in Maynooth University. They then drop theology at the end of 1st year.

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    8. Yet nearly every year there's a national collection for Maynooth (which givers think is for the seminary) and then there's there's the student priest annual collection in every parish.

      People probably give generously but what is it used for? Is it to fund lay students who might be anti-Catholic, agnostic or Protestant?

      A recent example is the minister of the presumptiously-named Maynooth Community Church. Actually Presbyterian and the minister is a BD (Maynooth) graduate. Church collections enabled that. He's an ex-Catholic.

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  6. Rather embarrassing for Dermo. Where is he going to send his sems next to avoid strange goings-on, having exhausted his options in Maynooth and the Irish College? No point in trying the English College, Oscott, Aĺlen Hall or the Beda. Same doorbell, same answer.

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  7. Will Marshall be next.

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    1. Marshall's days are numbered. He is getting too big for his boots. A big story is about to break. He and his co dioscean have survived thus far only because they have big info about senior clergy and Amy is afraid they'll spill. But what is built on sand will fall once this news breaks.

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    2. I take it Marshall will be returning to the homestead in Moneymore sometime soon then.

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    3. Is there something in the water in South Derry and neighbouring Tyrone? Moneymore, Castledawson, Magherafelt, Coalisland!!

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    4. People in those lovely towns are incurable romantics.

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  8. The secret sauna club has been exposed again. Marshall has the memership card for access to the majority of the gay saunas in Europe.

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    1. There is no such "membership card." You are either speaking metaphorically or inventing a smear.

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  9. Well Fanny Mullaney loves the Trolley Dolly. Fanny is the male dominant and the female is the Trolley Dolly.

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  10. Miss Wilson never leaves Collins room

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  11. I thought the various seminary directors of formation were supposed to be the experts when it came to formation. Apparently not, it seems.

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    1. Nah, just experts in erections and keeping genuine vocations out of Irish seminaries.

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  12. The biggest problem is the refusal of the Irish bishops to address the problem. Maynooth simply has to close or at a minimum completely cleaned out
    Fanny Mullaney and Collins have to go.

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  13. Lol Mark Morarity just walked into wilsons room, Marshall and Wilson are screaming at each other. Pat its getting tense on the corridor now.

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  14. Message to Mullaney and Collins

    Your days are numbered. You backed the wrong horses in Armagh and Cork. Did you really think that you were going to get away with ousting innocent men while you backed the seminarians that are incapable of staying out of bed with each other, and did you actually expect that they wouldn't slip up and leave you with the egg on your face? America knows how baddd you are Fanny and Mick Collins
    Watch this space yesssss

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  15. Pat there is no hope for us now in the seminary. Pat just please help stop these two senior students from attacking us. Its a power struggle now in Maynooth. Pat the victims goes beyond one or two seminarians now in Maynooth.

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  16. I'm wondering what's going on in the heads of many modern clerical students and what's wrong with the selection process. Church seems to be more about sexuality than it is about God

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  17. Fanny will protect her little girls at all costs...Fanny is the arch deceiver par excellence...the noose is tightening...and Fanny can feel it.

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    1. Poor Fr Fanny.

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    2. Do not abuse the word "girls" please .This is extremely distasteful to Pat's female blog readers

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    3. I agree @09:47. It would be extremely insulting to use "boys" when referring to the contributions of men. I'm a man, btw and don't like this giving of female names to men as if it's an insult.

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  18. They could try St John's Wonersh they will take anyone!

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    1. That’s not true.

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    2. Wonersh has a reputation for being quite strict, with a no-nonsense rector.
      I’m sure he would kick out any trouble-makers before they have a chance to cause scandal.

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  19. This must be a worrying time for the hierarchy. The longer time goes on the greater amount of traction this blog gets. Therefore more people know about it and the press are now tuning in every day looking for stories or leads to stories. The more stories appearing in the media the greater the damage. The greater the damage the more incompetent the bishops seem. Simple. Only problem is the nuncio is watching everything and needless to say is reporting back to HQ. Worse still is people with half a brain won’t be taken for a ride anymore, stop going to mass. Revenues fall!

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    1. MourneManMichael10 May 2018 at 08:54

      Anon@ 08:05: Your bottom line is, "revenues fall". How very telling: 'the bottom line'. You've nicely summed up the RC hierarchy's main concern!
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  20. Yes. Leave these two lovers alone. How touching that they should be given an opportunity to set off in life together so close to the World Families Meeting in Dublin. Such a magnanimous gesture on the part of the Irish college. What would be lovely now would be if Dermo was to give them a nice wee flat in Dublin as a love nest and perhaps Papa Franco could bless it when he was here. Ahh, the joys of love !

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    1. It's quite sweet, really, this young love that blossomed in the Eternal City.

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  21. The gaying of the priesthood goes all the way down and all the way up. That's not incompatible with Christian love. What is, is the hate speech spewing on this website.

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  22. Pat you have exposed the active gay seminarians and the secret sauna club where seminarians are encouraged to join. Pat the icing on the cake is the Priest This priest is the main man in this gay seminarian network and is very close to Byrne.

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  23. Gannon, Horny Andy, Xxxxx Xxx, Marshall and Byrne are all connected to this gay network. Just send all the screenshots to the Irish Independent then Mullaney will be forced to act.

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  24. Xxxxxxx had a fancy for Paul Prior especially his athletic physique.

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    1. You must be off your rocker!Pipsqueak Prior. Athletic physique?

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    2. He didn't maintain an athletic physique by going to Cafe Bon-bon every day. I was a classmate of Paul Prior but only for two years as he was on the sem course and went into I Divinity in third year while I stayed in New House to complete my BA. Paul never undertook any sporting activity whatsoever. He used to blowdry his hair and he and a Clonfert student were the only known hairdryer owners in the college.

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    3. PP got fitted curtains put up in his room in Top Pat's. It cost 80 punts, which was a lot then.

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    4. I think Prior is writing about himself. A concrete block would be more athletic that that little perv.

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    5. Paul Prior called his fitted curtains "drapes" lol.

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  25. Amy knows all about Xxxxxx Xxxccxc antics but he is standing by them. But will his hand soon be forced? A big pay out to send them off quietly.

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    1. I have written to EM about this and he has acknowledged my letter.

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  26. Bishop Pat I do believe Fr Xxxxxxx has on numerous occasions crossed his professionals and inter personnel boundaries with two specfic seminarians. Mainly Xxx Xxx Xxxxxx

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  27. Makes me sick that there’s old women in St Joseph’s Young Priests Society, who give all their time, energy and resources and only to be repaid by these fools? Shame on them!

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  28. Never heard of this blog until this week. Then got a pm from a friend on fb telling me about Fr Gates. Seems now the whole of Magherafelt is reading all the back articles and blogs. Great craic. Read for about 3 hours last night. Your following in south Derry is growing by the day. Shows up what the senior priests are up to. Not good. Keep bringing these people to account.
    Newbridge Residenr

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  29. 08:20 easy to see the attraction to Paul Prior - he's a good looking guy. Don't know him personally so no idea about his athletic physique.
    Conor Gannon is a very hot guy.

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    1. The physical appearance of priests is irrelevant to their ability as practitioners of their vocation and irrelevant to their degree of spirituality and sincerity

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    2. Prior is about as good looking as a monkey's arse! Are you well?

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  30. Xxxx xxxxxxx is going down next. Them c**k pics never go away Xxxxxxxx!

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  31. It must be a big disappointment for the Archbishop and, of course, their families. All that time and money spent on them too!

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  32. What does Mgr Ciara O'Carroll have to say pat?

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    1. Nothing!

      Yet!

      I have asked DM about it but, as yet, no reply.

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  33. Bishop Buckley. Like a poster earlier I never heard of this blog til this week. My ma was reading it last night and she howled all night. I split my sides laughing. What a shower of bastards they are. No more money from this house on a Sunday. Cousins of ours had problems over a funeral in OLA Church. Arrogant man. Good luck to you Bishop Buckley. You’re some craic right enuf

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  34. The armagh student with the Grindr c***k pics will be the next one to go

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  35. Xxxxx Xxxxxxx is still on Grindr :-/

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    1. “Horny Andy” is no longer a seminarian if that’s who you mean @09:41?

      Has the Ab of Armagh interviewed/grilled the “trolly dolly” to ascertain whether or not there is any fire to the smoke on here?

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  36. Interesting. Conor Gannon on his Twitter profile removed “seminarian”. I suppose at least he still has “Catholic Church” as one of his many “interests”.

    Gorgeous can play the wounded healer to Conor having been through a similar exit experience.

    I’d say Conor and gorgeous would make a better couple. I’m not seeing what Conor sees in Sean.

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    1. They are not friends, i hear.

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    2. Alcohol was involved!

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  37. Xxx Xxx Xxxxxxx was seen in gay bars in Rome. How very very stupid!

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  38. Do Oscott sems go to Unit 2 sauna? Or do they have the sense to go to a different city?

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    1. Oscott has its fair share of bum boys at present.. At least the filth ridden sleaze pit of the Allen Hall of the past has cleaned up its act with a very tough and no nonsense formation team & presided over by a tough Cardinal.

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    2. Oscott will be fine with the mighty Fr. Marsden

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    3. He will completely destroy them.

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    4. I was a good-looking man in my 20s and in 1993 I was invented to a guest night dinner in Allen Hall. In the bar upstairs I was propositioned by a seminarian and later on, by a visiting priest.

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    5. The Allen Hall regime was too lax, liberal for years and anything went. Sems having it off with Sems and with Staff. Some Sems were constantly up in Soho and Old Compton Street. The Brompton graveyard was another popular place to hang out at night - the Seminary was basically a gay knocking shop and some Sems were totally promiscuous. The guest night dinners sometimes attended by past Cardinals of Westminster were basically occasions to pick up young guests or visiting clergy.

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    6. @18.48, you have some warped imagination.

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    7. No warped imagination - I was there. Sorry to disappoint you.

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  39. Pat you have allowed this blog to become nothing but a bitching forum. I will return when you talk about the Cloyne crises rather than allow bitchy seminarians those present and past take over

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    1. Neglect the seminarian problems and you will multiply the Cloyne / Kildorrery incidents.

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  40. Well Done again and it is well seen the Bishops are acting and so is the Papal Nuncio.

    Keep up the Good Work and lets get rid of the Seminarians and Clergy who are having sex however NOT to Diocesan property Grace and Favour just get them out.

    They are a burden to the laity who pay for the Church

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    1. The illiterate Irish Scottish-based gay who's "getting enough sex, thank you" and insists on sticking his nose in everyone else's sexual life and recommending writing to the Papal Nuncio. Your uneducated style is unmistakable. Go back to school.

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  41. Diarmuid Martin has been put under a great deal of pressure. Nobody would want his job and he struggles with being let down time and again. Listen to this interview. A good man. https://soundcloud.com/rte-radio-1/miriam-1-archbishop-diarmuid-martin

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    1. Ah is that the interview where he turned on the waterworks ? His bladder seems very close to his eye.

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    2. 11.42 Dermo was and is a sad act for an archbishop to me and others.

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    3. 19:52 you’re probably even more a “sad act” where are you? A curate 100 years after ordination?

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    4. 21.51 One of the reasons he is a sad act is because of people like you. You simply can't accept it, can you.

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  42. It is but a few days since a blog on allegations of psychological abuse in Maynooth and a written record from Mullanney saying that what was alledged did not meet the threshold of abuse. I think it abundantly clear by now that the environment in both Irish seminaries is extremely unhealthy. Clearly seminarians live under an oppressive fear with "formators" who are capable of doing some serious damage to young men. How can the bishops not be responding?

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  43. If the Sems are behaving themselves they have nothing to fear - simple. So stop your whinging and get back to prayer and your studies you cissy.

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    1. Not exactly, the bad sems have the habit of maliciously going after the good, so yes they should fear being defamed on this blog.

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    2. Tell that to the seminarians who were kicked out over the years for being orthodox! That was thanks to Sr Brid Liston and completely supported by the seminary council. So behaving oneself does not prevent the authorities from inflicting serious damage even on those who are behaving themselves! The ones who support the Grindr culture, on the other hand, seem to sail through.

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      I behaved myself. I had a great prayer life. I spoke to both men and women... that was my fault, Donal saw me speak to a woman and I being heteosexual. The next few years of pseudo-psychology to pick me apart nearly destroyed me as a person.

      Donal failed at that too though, just like he failed in his ambition to be a bishop. It is not as easy as you suggest, far from it. It was more like torture. 1 of my class was a year in psychiatric care after 'formation'. Others have had various challenges and difficulties in life that began at the time of formation. Sadly we will never know the true cause of why another recent enough ex-sem was found RIP despite his young age.

      Maynooth should not be closed. It should be burnt and the ashes burried.

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    4. Nuns shouldn't be deciding who stays or goes. They wouldn't allow a priest to decide on their novices (that's if they had any, lol).

      Maynooth has an elderly nun responsible for vocational growth. What would she know about the growth of a priestly vocation? That's truly a priest's job.

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    5. I hope she dresses like a proper Nun. What would she know about anything I would say also. Send Sr Mary in to shake them all up. She seems to have been muzzled too in recent times along with the Clogher Curate.

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    6. 14.59...must be the funniest lines of the day. Ha ha ha

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    7. Misogynistic reply ...what else can be expected..from a male dominated church.

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    8. Seminary selection committees in England always have one aged, liberal, topless nun who will do anything to prevent the entry of an orthodox applicant.

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    9. Have you thought about switching to the Anglicans, 15:29? They sound like they'd be right up your aisle. They even have bishopesses.

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    10. Does your husband know that you are writing provocative comments on Pat's blog?

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    11. How dare you speak to me like that? As soon as I've done the dinner and the washing-up I'll be having words with you.

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    12. Pat why do u allow misogynistic comments ?
      Do you not think that women are gettingfrom all angles without you approving theses posts.
      We have a woman dying because of inaction in the hsc
      People shouting about a pro death referendum .
      Now these louts on here denigrating women.

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    13. If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen.

      On second thoughts, maybe not.

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  44. POISONOUS is the word to describe both Irish seminaries. Bum loving sems and priests are turning the church into their own private sauna paid for by the laity and protected by the bishops. I tip my hat to them. They are smarter than the rest of us idiots who work for a living.

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    1. In this clinic, we don't think they are smarter..

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  45. Collins used to tell the 1st years,
    Stay away from the Porn-a lads. Seems like Maynooth is a live porn-a

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  46. Pat I thought you were going on the radio this morning ?

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    1. Postponed until tomorrow morning.

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    2. What station? I’ll tune in

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    3. Pat, what Radio Station please and time? What will be the discussion? Many Thanks and excellent blogs over the past number of days.

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    4. cork 96 fm I think

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    5. CORK RED FM............8 AM

      CORK 96 FM.............9 AM TO 12 NOON

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    6. I hope there's a podcast/listenagain/link on the blog.

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    7. Wouldn't listen to you if you broadcasted live from my back garden!
      Why do you never get TV time north or south?

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  47. These guys must have had it really really bad if they persisted in this acting out even after the Gaynooth saga and scandal.

    It is good to see decisive action being taken in expelling them. The same action needs to be taken against anyone else acting up in this way.

    There is no place among seminarians for those who indulge in these gravely sinful activities.

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  48. +Pat, do you think they'll get offered a trip to America for defag therapy? Or are they both incurable.

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  49. Pat, do you ever yearn for simpler, more innocent times when the biggest scandal on the blog was Noel Treanor's doorknobs in his palace?

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    1. Indeed.

      If only they were the only knobs we had to worry about :-)

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  50. The more things change, the more they stay the same. In the late eighties/nineties in Maynooth, we had Gertrude, Connie, Shiela Shea, Nellie Dean, Kitty Drury, Cherry Daisy, to name but a small few. We had corridors renamed by names such as The Maternity Ward and Handbag Alley. There was little cliques of tea drinking queens. The only difference now is the internet and social media are exposing all this to a wider public. I myself was propositioned on the way to the shower.

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    1. In 1986, the then Junior Dean, Frank Duhig booted out a Kilmore seminarian whom a Guard had caught with another man in the village toilets. When the seminarian said he was a clerical student any question of arrest was removed and it was left to the college to handle the matter.

      Frank Duhig was one of the most humane and well-liked deans, though he had a tough side. He had no time for bitchy queens and he would remove them from the seminary.

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    2. I 100% agree with you about Frank Duhig. He did his best. Do you remember the Chubbs Concert? Woo, hoo, that could never take place now. First year show that was truly a holy show.

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    3. "There were little cliques ."

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    4. Yes, 19:09, I remember Frank Duhig's very angry speech in the Junior Oratory in the aftermath of the notorious Chubs' concert of 1986. Lots of first years dressing up as women and lewd songs. Frank said he never thought he'd live to see the day when such a performance appeared on the stage of a seminary.

      Frank was obsessed with trying to end the two to a room arrangement in Long Corridor but couldn't because two of the houses had been turned into offices. He used to say it was because he wanted to facilitate solitude. I wonder if he also feared that it would encourage strange goings on?

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    5. I remember Frank Duhig. He was a true gentleman, and he had no time for those of an affective effeminacy. He had the wisdom and the savvy to see through all that affected carry on that was rife in Maynooth.....although I would say we as seminarians in the late 1980s were not the most worldly wise, and may have failed to take cognisance of the immoral behaviour of some of our fellow students. I remember a deacon in his final year being thrown out for such homosecual carry on. He was from Tuam diocese, and is now a big noise in the gay scene in Galway city. Tom Clancy was the senior dean who rumbled that individual. There have always been homosexuals in the priesthood, and always will be. There's no issue with that, it's the duplicity that so often today comes along with it.....the outwardly stern and upright image of being good and holy priests, whilst all the while engaging in immorality. Bishop Pat has done a sterling job in exposing this. These con merchants should, and need to be exposed. Keep up the good work Bishop Pat.

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    6. It's autocorrect on phones that does this.

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    7. Good for Fr O'Donoghue, who is ministering with the FSSP. Is ex-Fr Frankie "there's sand in my shoes" Lee still living in a diocesan house and drawing a diocesan salary?

      How did Fr Barry Hogg manage to go straight from being President of St Mary's College, Galway, to being a pastor emeritus.

      Is the one and only Conor Cunningham still going strong?

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    8. I'm only in Galway occasionally now, but my good source there keeps me up to speed! Yes, Fr. Patrick is with the FSSP, a big loss. Barry Hogg got into a spat with the diocese. He had big plans to rejuvenate the diocesan college, but they weren't welcomed. Conor has gone under the radar, and is keeping a low profile.

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    9. No, Frankie is gone, gone, gone.

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    10. 19:31, I was there from 1986 to 1990 and it was more innocent then. The college was not the highly sexualised place it seems to be now. The students were mainly hetero, with a few repressed gays who lived I believe blameless lives in the Foxrock corridor. The big numbers then (350) gave it a bracing, healthy atmosphere, it wasn't introspective, and confidence was high.

      The problems then were drunken students coming back from Dublin after the free day on Sunday and sems having girlfriends.

      Frank Duhig used to get rid of the characters who rule the roost in Maynooth now and innuendo wasn't liked.

      I was only aware of two student gay sex scandals. These were the previously mentioned Kilmore student, and an Armagh deacon hurriedly moved from Rome to Maynooth who would knock student bedroom doors in St Mary's late at night. A Kerry diocese III Divine gave him a punch.

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    11. Fr Duhig was personally orthodox and had traditional clerical hobbies that would be unthinkable to the current Maynooth cohort. He used to gamble on the horses, (lightly), would go to Cheltenham every year, was big into rugby and coached the college rugby team. He was a great believer in manual work for seminarians.

      He didn't do mind games, he would say openly if he had issues with you and I'm sure he would have been embarrassed by the prurient questions of his successors. If Maynooth and the Irish College are to continue that's the type of dean they need.

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    12. Yes, that deacon was a chap from Derry who had been ordained for Armagh.....even then the primatial diocese had it's issues. The poor chap was killed in car crash in Italy a number if years ago. He did indeed prowl the corridors late at night looking for a victim. He had a number of allies.....one from Clogher who was ordained a priest, who I presume was bisexual, and two from Derry diocese who got ordained and then left. 25 years ago it appears to have been rife. We just didn't see it.

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    13. The two Derry priests, who got into a relationship together, later put their oordination vestments on to a bonfire in their back garden. It was Tom O'Fiach who moved the Armagh deacon from Rome to Maynooth.

      Around the same time the President's boyfriend Jaime from Mexico suddenly took up residence in the college as a I Divine. If you sent this stuff to a publisher as a draft novel they'd reject it for being incredulous but it's all true.

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    14. Have you forgotten about the incident in the Junior Infirmary in Maynooth in the 198O's? The priest member of staff involved was forced out and the seminarian was allowed to stay, was ordained and has done very well for himself.

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    15. I think you meant "incredible".

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  51. Pat, two more younger priest's have gone from the Galway diocese in the last few weeks. David Cribbin has left the ministry, and Murchadh Ó Madagáin has been incardinated into the Diocese of Venice in Florida. Alan Burke left the ministry last year. Patrick O'Donohoe joined a Latin Mass congregation last year. All these lads are between thirty five and fifty. It's a disaster.

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    1. @ Why did you put an apostrophe in the phrase "more younger priests.. ?

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    2. That's shocking, 18.40. There seem to be serious problems in Galway.

      A priest friend of mine in a neighbouring diocese told me that a considerable number of decent men (I think he said seven) who were interested in priesthood in Galway have been rejected over the past four or five years. Apparently they were "screened out" by a panel of liberals and never even got to meet the bishop!

      It's not too long ago that Galway had five or six seminarians. Now there is supposedly one.

      Hopefully the new bishop will have the courage to change the old regime and the old guard.

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    3. The vocations team in Galway, led by one priest with an ego to match his girth, make a point of only selecting liberal candidates, or, put it another way, any candidates that show any conservative disposition are dismissed out of hand. I heard Patrick O'Donoghue had to keep his conservative disposition under wraps. The fact that he was a former Fine Art graduate probably helped give a Bohemian impression.

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    4. 20:13 - lol - "an ego to match his girth"!

      You're completely right about the conservatives. Out and out liberals ruling the roost in Galway.

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      His balls were also smart.

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    6. @22:40, ha, ha,ha. Speaking of Galway, I wonder will anything be done about the crazy situation in Knocknacarra with the PP and The Handmaidens of Medugorje, AKA The Brood of Vipers that are running the show? Also, what is been done about the unhinged priest, discussed here a few weeks ago, that joined the diocese from a religious order? A member of that order told me that they threw a party when he left, and they were shocked when Martin Drennan accepted him. He caused Armageddon in every community house he was in.

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    7. Diarmuid Hogan VD Galway had a massive ego and belly even when he was a student in Maynooth.

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  52. Go to the "Settings" function on your phone and switch off the auto - correct if you feel confident of your own spelling and grammar. That should help.

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    1. Think you for that, I'll try it.

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    2. The liberals are welcome to their priestless parishes. The topless nuns etc want to starve the church of priests because they think it will force the hand on "married priests" and "women priests".

      LOL we'll just get priests from Poland and Nigeria when the Tablet-readers are gone to their reward.

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  53. 17:54 & 18:48 paint a very telling picture of Allen Hall seminary. The gay culture certainly wasn't as obvious in Thurles........lots of opportunities but more secretive. I couldn't imagine the staff or visiting clergy getting it on with the seminarians in Thurles.

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    1. Which dirty old bugger do you think mean; Murphy-O'Connor, Hume, Heenan, or Godfrey?

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    2. Allen Hall wasn't lax in the days of Heenan and Godfrey. Hume was gay.

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    3. Cormac Murphy O'Connor didn't tolerate inappropriate behaviour either. He was an old school, decent cleric.

      There is a bit of a smeer campaign going on of other seminaries to camoflage Maynooth's situation. Maynooth needs to be responded to by the Bishops or the laity need to continue to walk away.

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  54. This is the Magherafelt mammy. This is the best craic ever. If what is said on here is true about student priests then they are a lot of dirty b......s.
    Get them out. I’m finding out now on this that my money on the plate was paying for these boys.

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    1. ... and their KY.

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  55. Bishop Pat it took out last night on the corridor around 1am in St Mary's. I do feel sorry for the two Armagh seminarians. I could hear roaring and fighting coming from Wilson's room.

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    1. A lovers tiff is swift to heal.

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  56. Chris Derwin I remember had a master key for the bedrooms in St Mary's hse. Derwin would occasional open the door of a seminarians bedroom.

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  57. Does anyone know if it is actually TRUE that these named students have been “sent home”? What exactly happened? Maybe they left of their own free will?

    These other students from Armagh being referred to here on numerous occasions? Are they victims of slander? If not, how on earth are they also not “sent home”?

    The whole business is a morass of rumour and innuendo which could deeply hurt the lives of innocent people!

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    1. Shut up and open your eyes you fulminating fool!

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    2. Go along and say your prayers 23:32. You obviously can't stand the fact that all the scoundrels and liars in Maynooth and Rome are being exposed.

      Maybe you are one of them?

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    3. 23:32 READ THE IRISH TIMES. PAT HAS BEEN PROVEN RIGHT AGAIN!

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  58. Who is/was King Puck's bae?

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  59. Miss Xxxxxxx writing comments again @ 23:32. Tut, tut.

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    1. You couldn’t be more wrong if you tried, 08:28 and 07:25.

      I have nothing to do with Maynooth and I want to see unworthy candidates STOPPED - EXPELLED - SENT PACKING.

      But I am genuinely concerned that innocent students could be the victims of vindictive campaigns and unfounded innuendo.

      If the named students on this blog are guilty of what is being alleged then they must be expelled. They are not fit for the seminary and DEFINITELY NOT for the priesthood.

      Whatever is the truth of the matter, it would seem that seminary formation in Ireland is in total meltdown.

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    2. Have you not heard about Conan? You must be in a different country?

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    3. Listen 11:18, you appear to be a priest/seminarian in a different country, maybe Irish?

      Anyway, if this is correct, you are far removed from the current disaster that is the Irish church and which disaster has its genesis and origin in the placement of men with psychological and sexual pathologies as formators of future priests.

      This sorry situation has now resulted in a cohort of dysfunctional malformed priests and seminarians who are causing endless scandal with many recently ordained priests leaving the priesthood because their faith/moral compass was destroyed in seminary.

      And to further compound matters, the bishops sit idly by while this fiasco plays out with seemingly no end in sight.

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  60. The Scout is putting on the beef now. He is sick with worry, Scout knows time is running out before full meida exposure. Look what happened King Puck his best friend.

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  61. The scout was a former lay theology student who found love at first sight with king puck. King puck advocated for the admission of the scout into Maynooth seminary. Then looked what happened the subculture expanded and then started to send nude snapchats to each other.

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  62. Pat please give a hint for tomorrow's blog. Please draw your attention to the current sexualized problems withim the two main Irish seminaries. If I may suggest look at two Maynooth senior seminarians currently in Theology who are active predators.

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  63. Mullaney needs to establish a redress scheme for the past and current seminarians who are victims of abuse. The cover up must be exposed, people's lives are being destroyed at a psychological level.

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  64. Bishop Pat I do believe the Current and former members of Maynooth seminary Council are in breach of the United Nations Convention against Torture. The Irish Republic is a signatory. Article 1.1 states ' the term torture means any act by which severe suffering whether physical or mental is intentional inflicted on a person as obtaining from him information or a confession'. The Irish Republic signed up to the convention on September 28th 1992. Hughie, Prior, Collins and Mullaney have no idea of what storm is coming next.

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  65. Its going to be a busy summer with the civil and constitutional action taken for infractions imposed by seminary council within the last ten years on seminarians. The list just goes on infractions of preventing freedom of speech, psychological torture and acts of violence.

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  66. To the above comment I would be happy to refer you to an Amnesty International Lawyer. Amnesty International have considerable experince in exposing breaches of human rights and a cover up by an institution.

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    1. Not to mention supporting human rights breaches on account of its pro-abortion stance.

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    2. The Catholic founder of Amnesty International must be spinning in his grave. I hope that there are no Irish Catholic members or donors to that vile organisation. Considering all the human rights abuses around the world it's perverse that the promotion of death in Ireland is their chief priority.

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  67. The Amnesty international office on fleet street temple bar is 018638300. Any statement or conversation on either the current or past Maynooth breaches of human rights will be held in strict confidence.

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  68. Pat would you accompany a group of us who are current and former seminarians to the Amnesty international office in Dublin.

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  69. Bishop Pat may I please make a direct open invitation. To all current and previous seminarians and Clergy who have suffered at the hands of Maynooth seminary Council lets unite together. One option is Amnesty international which can promote are cause for Justice.

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  70. Well thats the goon Collins finished now.

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  71. I would recommend contacting Dr. Anna Neistat. Dr. Neistat is a Amnesty international Lawyer who is a graduate from Harvard in 2001. Dr Neistat has worked in the field of Human Rights Watch in Moscow and Syria. Dr Neistat has considerable experience of collecting evidence and exposing the truth.

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