Tuesday, 8 May 2018

PRIEST PSYCHOLOGIST REFLECTS ON SEXUAL SACRILEGE IN CLOYNE / KILDORRERY



A PRIEST PSYCHOLOGIST REFLECTS ON RECENT HAPPENINGS IN CLOYNE DIOCESE AND THE PARISH OF KILDORRERY.




"By any standards, the images published recently on your blog are shocking in the extreme. I can well understand how many, clerical and laity, will be disturbed to the core of their being with incontrovertible evidence of depravity carried out in a sacred place by a priest and (possibly) a student for the priesthood. These men have photographed themselves f*cking on the altar of the sanctuary of a church. What could be more depraved? Indeed many of your commentators have allied this to satanic behaviour, more usually at a "Black Mass" or other such satanistic ritual. Have we reached a new low?

Such behaviour, while uncommon, is not unknown to psychologists. It is quite often the case that men and women, deeply disturbed in their psychosis, can "act out" in ways that try to gain control over what it is that is causing their distress and pain. This is often the case with adults who have been the victims of abuse, either sexual, mental or physical, in their childhood and all the more so when this has been carried out by parents or close relatives. I have heard of such adults going to the grave of the perpetrator and urinating or defecating upon the grave as if this in some way will release the pain and help them to gain back some control over the forces that have been causing the distress and the pain. I have also heard of cases, less often to be sure, where a sexual act is carried out over or nearby the gravesite. These too are ways of gaining control. I wonder might this help in trying to fathom out what has been happening in this parish church in Cloyne diocese, and no doubt in other churches in Ireland and throughout the world?

The Priest




The priest in question is certainly in need of intensive help and therapy, as by any standard he is presenting in a way that is extremely disturbed and putting himself at great risk, and others too. When I saw the photographs I thought to myself that this priest is not only f*cking ON THE altar, he is actually f*cking THE altar and all it represents in his life and in the lives of Catholics. So we move away from someone who is so addled with addiction, be it drugs, sex, alcohol (though he may well have all there) to someone who is so angry with the Church, and all that the Church represents, that he literally wants to f*ck it;  out of his mind, his life and the lives of those he has charge of.

Whatever the cause of his behaviour, he needs help and not just a few chats with a therapist. This man needs deep and intensive psychotherapy to address the underlying issues and pain that would cause him to behave in such a way. I would imagine that he has had treatment before, as I feel sure that his behavioural problems have brought him to the attention of his bishops in the past. They have probably applied the "sticking plaster" solution of getting him "dried out" and returned to ministry as soon as possible. This cannot be an option in this case. He needs to be removed from ministry, perhaps permanently, so as not only not to harm others but equally importantly, harm himself. The great sadness of all of this is that he is harming and destroying himself by these behaviours.

The "Seminarian"





There has been some comment as to the identity of the recipient of the sexual acts on the altar. Some have suggested that he is a student for the priesthood. If this is the case then this is very worrying indeed. Perhaps even more so than for the priest who is the perpetrator. This seems to be a much younger man, and whatever the explanation for how he has found himself in this position (he could have been out of his mind on drugs or alcohol) he really does have issues that need dealing with. If he is a student for the priesthood, in "formation", then this is a real concern. Most of us, when we are younger, are idealistic and innocent - that is the developmental stage associated with young adulthood. Cynicism, or wariness, comes later as we grow older and realize that people can do bad things to us and to others. For someone to behave in such a way as a teenager or young person, on an altar, in a church, when he is training to be a priest is almost incomprehensible. Goodness knows what pain and suffering such a person would inflict on others, and on himself, should he be allowed to continue with his studies for the priesthood and be ordained. He too must be intervened upon and removed from the seminary, if indeed he is a seminarian.

The Bishop




There has been a lot of negative comment about the bishop of the diocese in which this behaviour has taken place. To some degree, I feel some sympathy for him, as I am sure that he is shocked and appalled as to what he has seen as anyone else is. He is also at the distinct disadvantage that he is called upon to act and to act quickly. He has probably no idea whatsoever what to do. I would imagine like most bishops I have met he is of average intelligence but totally ill-equipped to deal with psychosis, and especially when it involves one of his priests. I feel sure that he will wish to protect the identity of the priest, and so he should, as this man is one of his charges and has the right to his privacy if he is engaged in medical or psychological treatment. But he must ensure that the priest is intervened upon, removed from ministry (perhaps permanently) and undergoes intensive residential psychological screening and treatment. Not to do so would be to put the people of the diocese at grave risk of further abuse, even if only on the level of damage to the Church and its reputation, in the lives of these good men and women who attend church and who believe in it and in the probity of its ministers.

Conclusions




I offer these reflections to assist the debate, and in no way to minimise or to seek to excuse what by any stretch of the imagination is the reaching of a new low in the long and sordid history of the abuse perpetrated by some in the Church (be they bishops, priests, monks or nuns) upon the people they have been called to serve in Ireland and further afield. Perhaps it is as if that now we are in the "end times" of the Church in Ireland as an Institution, that such things are coming to the fore, and much more will come out also. Almost like a disease in the body bursting out on to the surface of the body. Generations upon generations of abuse of power, (and remember this is the heart of sexual abuse - the inflicting of power over others), are now coming out on the "body of the Church". Priests and nuns, even though they have been participants in this, have also been "victims", and this is displayed in the abhorrent behaviours we have recently been made all too graphically aware off.


A priest psychologist

101 comments:

  1. Any body who is decent would vomit at the stuff commanded by God in the Bible. Stoning innocent gay men to death. If a man mated with an animal the animal was stoned to death as well. Is our priest in the incident acting "in ways that try to gain control over what it is that is causing their distress and pain. This is often the case with adults who have been the victims of abuse, either sexual, mental or physical, in their childhood and all the more so when this has been carried out by parents or close relatives. I have heard of such adults going to the grave of the perpetrator and urinating or defecating upon the grave as if this in some way will release the pain and help them to gain back some control over the forces that have been causing the distress and the pain." Is he trying to degrade Jesus who after all did take responsibility for the evils of the New Testament and who went as far as to say he had come to fulful its evil law?

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    1. God did not command such things as stoning to death gay men, or anyone (or anything) else; men did, based on cultural perceptions of what was persobally and socially acceptable.

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  2. Pat, the priest psychologist should have signed his name so that we can trust his qualification. I find his insights too conclusive since we do not know yet the exact identity of the two men concerned. Or do we? This weekend in Dublin there was outrage at the hundreds of men who used public spaces to urinate etc..in front of families and visitors There is a depravity around that's breaching decency rules and the vile act perpetrated in this Church is an evil act. When will the truth be available?

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    1. 00:11, I should have thought that, in Dublin as in any other European city, hundreds of men could be found relieving themselves unself-consciously on any weekend following a good booze-up.

      Nothing untoward there, then.

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    2. 10.47: Obviously something you must do frequently Magna, with your silly, drunken, indecent behaviour. It's a disgusting habit which should warrant huge fines and imprisonment.

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    3. 12:23, I have never... Excuse me. Nature calls.😰

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  3. This is not very convincing. First we don't know if the perpetrators were really a priest and seminarian. Second the diagnosis is based on no information about the individuals concerned.

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  4. This is supposed to be by a psychologist? What professional language he uses! I have never seen a psychological report which uses the word f*cling! I think we can reasonably expect a clinical psychologist to understand the jargon word psychosis and to refrain from randomly throwing it around where there is no indication or suggestion that the person is suffering from a psychotic episode.
    I would ask for this purported psychologist's name, but I just know he wants to remain anonymous because he is a priest. If this is written by someone who is attempting to work clinically with clergy or others G*d help them because this is Maynooth level 'psychology'.
    Magna Carta or his mum could do better.

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    1. Now I think it's stretching credulity to breaking point when you suggest that my mum could do better. 😆

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  5. Fr Psychologist doesn’t have the balls to give his name though for all his analysis. I wonder what a psychologist would make of his anonymous comments on this blog?

    So Fr Pervert has sex on the Altar because of his “deep pain and anger” with the Church? Bulls***. He’s just a perverted evil scum bag.

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  6. That is an interesting viewpoint from a psychologist who knows the theory in general. He speaks from a general perspective as he doesn't know this person in particular and what his motivations were. It was very important that the psychologist recognised that such disturbed individuals should be removed from the ministry before they wreak further havoc and damage on other innocent victims.... The local parishioners and indeed the wider Church are their victims because they are responsible for damage and desecration to their property, but far more importantly, they are responsible for damage to people's trust and confidence in the space where they should feel secure and welcome. Of course they are also responsible for further damage to the reputation of the Church but I place greater importance on the hurt and anger experienced by the parishioners and on the scandal given to the local children and young impressionable people who have witnessed this happen to their building and who must find it bewildering and inexplicable. To excuse their behaviour is to negate all of that and to add insult to injury.
    That must not be allowed to happen. These are seriously disturbed individuals who are still at loose in the community . That cannot go unchallenged . The bishop has a duty of care to all concerned. He must therefore grasp the reins of responsibility and act without further delay to get professional help and guidance and do what absolutely must be done.

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  7. An imaginative blog. And I don't believe one, hyperbolic, near-hysterical word of it .

    Therapy? My freakin' eye! That priest and seminarian are fetishists: turned on by something so taboo (sex on a church altar), it aroused them both to orgasm in a way they probably didn't experience before. These guys are well practiced in kinky (very kinky) sex, and need greater and more extreme circumstances to get their kicks. They are, quite simply, a pair of very, very dirty bastardos.

    Need I state the bleedin' obvious here? Neither of these horny hedonists prays at all.

    As for either having faith in God? Phhh! 😅

    Psychological therapy won't substitute for a lack of prayer and faith. Therapy won't 'cure' this behaviour, because there is damn all to cure: neither is psychologically ill. But they each ARE in very grave sin and need the grace of repentance.

    It seems typical of one priest to make psychological excuses for the sins of another priest: poor Father; it really isn't his fault, because he is ill and can't help himself. Reminds me of the Protestant congregant who uninvitedly and inappropriately touched a young woman from his church as he was giving her a lift home. Guess what excuse he came up with? The devil MADE him do it, so it really wasn't his fault.

    The priest-psychologist guest-blogging today offers just a slightly more sophisticated version of 'the devil made me do it' type of excuse for shockingly immoral behaviour.

    I am going to suggest one more thing: those guys in the pics are probably enjoying the stir they've created and are getting off on it. Doubtless they are laughing their socks off at the incisive psychological analysis of their behaviour, especially since it more or less morally exonerates them.

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    1. Magna Carta's Mum9 May 2018 at 09:53

      Isn't my Magna clever? See the church actually pays for that drivel at the top of the page but Magna knows they just need to be given a good hard slap. Or perhaps not, they're probably into that.
      I knew you were clever when you wanted to call the cat Freud, when you were three.
      Now come and give Mummy a big kiss.

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    2. MourneManMichael9 May 2018 at 10:12

      Magna, there is much sense in what you say.
      I wasn't going to be bothered commenting on the "priest psychologist's" analysis. Obviously, from his terminology, he has some knowledge of psychology, but I thought he was simply dressing up consciously perverted behaviour by considering it only in terms of the need for potential therapeutic intervention: almost a failure to recognise that evilly inclined people do exist.
      Your comments, in my view, carry weight in acknowledging the reality.
      MMM

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    3. Thanks, MMM.

      I hate it when people miss not only the elephant in the room, but one that is trumpeting to boot.

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    4. 09:53, yes, mommie dearest, I did want to name that cat 'Freud' when I was three. And how did you respond? By laughing maniacally!

      That cat was your all-time favourite, wasn't it mommie dearest?

      Ever wonder why it went 'missing'? 😈

      No kisses from Magsie-Wagsie

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    5. Magna Carta's Mum9 May 2018 at 11:52

      Now Magna you know you want to kiss me really. Why, when I vetoed Freud, Klein and Gestalt as names for the cat, you insisted on calling it Oedipuss!

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  8. I have read the assessment by this priest psychologist a few times. I wish he had put his name to this article outlining his professional qualifications. I have read many psychological assessments on certain behavioural patterns and I am familiar with much psychological language and insight, sufficient to allow me to have written almost the same essay. I am not convinced of the authenticity of the author and his accreditations. Of all the assessments of psychologists I have read on various destructive behavioural acts, as in the vile act carried out in Kildorrery Church, the usage of the f**k/f*****g words makes me suspicious about the professional qualification of the author. I could have written the exact assesdment without the "f"words, which detract from the intellectual integrity of the assessment. Also, if this priest is a professionally trained therapist/counsellor, I doubt he would approve of the ridiculing, cartoon figures accompanying his article. From the various assessment articles I have studied, this article does not fit into the "professionally" trained therapist/psychologist genre. Quite honestly, anyone with a modicum of intelligence could have written this piece of analysis. I'm not convinced that this is a qualified priest psychologist, though there are understandable insights. Name of author and qualifications - please.

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  9. History is repeating itself. The Roman Empire the Middle Ages. The shame is that it is the body of Christ and genuine Christians who suffer. Fair comment that many involved in this may be victims too. This however is not an excuse.

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  10. THE IRISH COLLEGE ROME

    Pat, the rumours about the Irish College in Rome are true.

    Xxxx Xxxxxx of Xxxxx diocese and Xxxxx Xxxxx of Xxxxx diocese have been sent home for homosexual activity. Ciaran O'Carroll is trying to keep it quiet.The whole of Rome is talking about it.





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    1. Pat have you been sent the naked picture of Xxxxxx that was taken in Maynooth?

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    2. About time they started dismissing them from seminary instead of ordaining them to wreak havoc and bring further disgrace. Raymond Brown take note.

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    3. Ah well. At least Dublin is not embroiled in this. You would be fed up to the back teeth of these Northern and Culchie sems bringing with them their twisted immature sexuality.

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  11. Sent home for homosexual activity! How the dear old Irish homestead has changed to be sure!

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    1. Please let +Pat know all the details soon, so we can move on from Kildorrery.

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    2. They’ve not been beaten up by rent boys behind St Mary Major Basilica again? I wonder.

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    3. +Pat can you email Ciaran O'Carroll and ask him why two of his students were sent home under the cover of the darkness of night? Surely the public have a right to know?

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    4. What does your trusted source in Rome say?

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  12. I take this “priest psychologist”’s comments with a pince of salt. An undergraduate in psychology could have written that shallow claptrap with the expletives thrown in. Codswallop!

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  13. Pat was this written by Paul Prior?

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  14. It seems strange celibacy was not mentioned as a contributing factor, but, I suppose, that goes without saying with practically all clerical scandals.

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  15. This was not written by a psychologist, priestly or otherwise. It's too trite and the use of the f word shredded all credibility.

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    1. The priest psychologist was not writing an academic paper.

      He was responding to my request to put Kildorrery into a psychological perspective.

      There is NOTHING wrong with the f word when used appropriately.

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    2. Well perhaps you'll ask him to define psychosis without looking it up.
      Seriously Pat your readers would like to know who this is so we can avoid him.

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    3. 10.08: For God's sake Pat, stop defending the indefensible. Of course, a true academic or professional would not use the "f" word. Ever except in private. You should be praying for the priest and parishioners of Kildorrery instead of playing games with your crap psychology. You have seriously got it wrong.

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    4. It would be fairer to say the alleged priest psychologist as we have no idea that the person who wrote this is a priest or a psychologist.

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  16. 10.08: Utter nonsense of a defense of your priest psychologist. Any one of us would write better. Print his name and let us know his academic qualifications. Why not? His utterances are pseudo psychology.

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  17. 10.03: Well spoken. No professional psychologist would sign his name to an essay with the use of the "f" words. I agree, all credibility in his analysis is shredded to pieces.

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  18. Is that photo of the altar for real.?
    If it is what was going on?
    What is all the white bits on it?

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  19. This priest psychologist relays accurately the type of "psychology" we were subjected to in Maynooth's formation processes.

    We often used the term "pseudo-psychology", but that is the level of training formators get. They would be better off with no psychology training at all given such results.

    The review uses poor language, assumptions and conclusions based on little information or evidence. A true insight into the clerical circle and Maynooth formation. It is good to expose it.

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  20. I would like to think a Priest would not use the F word so is he a Priest Psychologist or a guy who advises Priests.

    If It is a Priest Psychologist it maybe the one from Glasgow who had to Leave due to ill health but none of the Bishops in Scotland took him serious.

    I am shocked at the slow action by Bishop Creen nothing on the Diocesan web site or anything.

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  21. Well this is nice. Finally a consensus among the comments - a consensus that whatever this 'priest psychologist's' qualifications, they're not worth the paper they're written on. Of course we'll never find out the name or alleged Alma Mater of this clown.
    No, got it! He studied at the clown school in Paris didn't he!

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  22. THE PRIEST PSYCHOLOGIST

    The author of today's blog is a diocesan priest.

    I cannot print his name as he would be in deep trouble for associating with me and this Blog.

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    1. MournemanMichael9 May 2018 at 13:08

      Perhaps you could consider clarifying Pat. Is he practising as a psychologist (primary role), who also happens to be a priest, and if so, is he an accredited member of a professional organisation of/for psychologists? I suspect he is not.
      By your reference to him as a diocesan priest I rather suspect he is simply a cleric whose studies included psychology in the broadest sense. Many other professional disciplines study psychology also but in practice don't regard practitioners primarily as psychologists like your priest.
      A little knowledge can be a dangerous thing.
      MMM

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    2. We often said the formators in Maynooth would be better off without the year of Psychology training in the US - that little but of knowledge certainly was dangerous.

      There is no way this guy is practicing psychology with the public, that would be a new scandal. Maybe he is practicing with a few clerics, and hard done by parishioners.

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    3. Oh shut up MMM...what is it your business?
      Yes u prob have degrees in this and that...most who practice counselling are half quacks anyways.
      Psychoanalysis...more like babble analysis.

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    4. Good that your knowledge is superb MMM

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    5. Well of course he can't possibly have his identity revealed.

      To the 'priest psychologist':
      Under cover of anonymity and without looking it up,
      1. Please describe three typical symptoms of psychosis.
      2. Tell us what relationship you think the human experience of psychosis could possibly have with a priest allegedly f*cking a young man on an altar.
      3. Why you threw the word psychosis into your comments above.

      In your own time...

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    6. I don’t think the participants were at all psychotic during this episode...no I’m not a priest...just someone who has a lot of experience with psychotic individuals.

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    7. You are some sort ................ 13.49...thinking the priest isgoing to answer your stupid questions.
      Get a grip...yes I refrained from posting what I was tempted to as I don’t use disgusting words In type.

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    8. Charming!

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    9. I sense a great anger in 14:16 - this person has had a great sorrow in his/her life and I'm sure the priest who wrote today's blog would help him/her with therapy to grow to a position where s/he doesn't project this onto other people.

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  23. What sort of vocation is a priest psychologist? Is it another form of parish-dodging?

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  24. MAYNOOTH

    Bishop Buckley please advocate for the protection of the junior house seminarians. The situation is becoming more dangerous. Please Pat stop King Puck's co-diocesan.

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    1. I need contact at

      bishopbuckley1@outlook.com

      I will not betray your identity.

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    2. Pat, do any of these like @13:15 ever
      ACTUALLY contact you? I’d say mostly they are yanking your chain.

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  25. Lots ofpriests study psychology and maybe do a degree in same.
    I have a psychology degree and practiced as a counsellor,although my profession was in the medical field.
    Now that that is all cleared up by pat, can someone answer my question.
    Is that picture of a disgraceful altar for real?
    Also I was present when a very senior priest said the word fuck...no I won’t say who he was.
    It is a common expression.

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  26. THE F WORD

    It would have been quite meaningless to say the priest was "making love" to the altar.

    There is a massive qualitative difference between making love and f......

    The F word captures the violence and psychosis of what the priest was doing.

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    1. Nonsense, Pat. And you really are clutching at straws today having sought the “expert” insight of this “priest psychologist” who is so afraid that he hides his identity.

      He could have said ‘having sex’ on the Altar, ‘fornicating’, ‘desecration through performance of obscene sexual acts’, ‘performing fellatio’, ‘sodomising’, anally penetrating a young man’, on the Altar etc. Several options.

      But he made a total eejit of himself with the F word. Who is he? Fr Trendy? One of these “I’m so cool, look at me, I can cuss with the best of them” types?

      His analysis is shallow and amateur.

      Furthermore, if the young man is a seminarian he surely is recognisable as such from the photos to his bishop? There isn’t exactly a vast multitude of Irish seminarians at present.

      Is the young man’s face visible in the photos you were sent (apart from other parts of his anatomy)? Clothing too can identify the young man. You hardly need Sherlock Holmes.

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  27. Who said the man desecrating the altar was psychotic
    Do you know something , Pat, that we don’t?
    Is he in psychiatric care now?

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  28. Pat how is Maynooth seminary still open after the grindr, sliver daddies, disappeared staff and the Prague scandal. Pat these scandals are on going under the leadership of Fanny Mullaney.

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  29. Bishop Pat these are strange times in Maynooth, Fr Surlis is trying his best to protect us from Mullaney and his goon Collins. Fr Surlis is a man of prayer and dignity. Mullaney is just on a damage control scheme now to attempt to bulk up his retirement prospects. Collins is just off the head with panic of what if something in my past was exposed. Strange goings on Maynooth.

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  30. I often wonder what was the catalyst for the formation of this subculture group in Maynooth. All this hidden homosexual group was during tenure of Hughie, Prior, Mullaney and Collins.

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    1. And Donal O'Neill (now married and left priesthood) before Collins.

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    2. Donal, aka 'The Anarack'.
      A man who was in a massive struggle with his sexuality/celibacy. His frustrations were taken out on seminarians and his anger projected onto young spiritual men as he denied his own failings.

      He destroyed many good men while trying to deny his own self. Many good would-be priests were reject because of their being heterosexual as he attempted to rescue his own inner child; the inner child sent to seminary in the 1980s.

      The Bons in Galway have found a high risk chaplain by taking on a ex-formator. I hope they have good insurance because they'll need it.

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    3. Maynooth was a madhouse when I was there between Donal O'Neill gawking at every good looking bird that walked up the cloister and then you had Paul Prior's fixation with erections. A strange pair indeed were that pair as formators of priests. I used to think to myself if they were the best the bishops could come up with then the church is f****d.

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    4. I dont know which was worse;

      1. Donal's stories from his holidays to San Fran's gay rights parade
      Or
      2. His stories of sneaking out with a named lady while he was a seminarian, whom he was particularly fond of because she had a car that he could use to boost himself back in over the wall.

      Look what he did he did, but these are no stories for a dean to tell seminarians.

      And yes, he used to be glued to the ladies on the cloister.

      His poor wife. There must not be a woman in Ireland with worse taste in men.

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    5. Sometimes I thought formators were chosen to keep them away from parishioners.

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    6. I remember Hugh Connolly's habit of opening checking out the good looking ladies and saying "she looks like she has a nice personality". I heard that line a few times too!!

      The Parisian ladies must be trilled with their dishy Hughie. Ou la la.

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  31. If this man on the altar...priest or other..was psychotic, then that takes on a whole different senario.
    It never should have been exposed on here...no violation took place.
    The man was ill....please clarify

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  32. What's happening in the Irish College, Pat?

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    1. I hope it's not the trainee priests Diarmuid Martin packed off to Rome. Now that would be a scandal.

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  33. This blog isn’t about the Irish college, pat might do one, but this blog is about a sexual encounter on an altar.
    Can some answer my query..is the altar in the picture the one used by the 2 men????

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  34. THE ALTAR

    The altar in the pic above is not the Cork altar.

    The Cork altar is published on previous blogs.

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  35. Thank you Pat... x

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  36. I know +Pat said this wasn’t intended to be an academic article but that was very obvious. Imagine this crap being peer reviewed. Total quackology.

    I don’t understand why a priest needs to be a psychologist. A priest should be in a parish walking with the people of Christ, not sitting doing work for the secular world.

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  37. I think the use of the F word undermines this article. It could have said engaged in sexual activity etc etc. the press did not use the F word in their articles. To say this is a secular priest is scary. Does he use this foul language regularly?

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    1. 'Frisky' may have been a more delicate metaphor to describe their actions.

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  38. Ten years ago I fell into conversation at a bar in an overseas hub airport with a guy from Dublin. As we got chatting other Irish joined, strangers, but from Dublin all of whom were travelling to visit their girlfriends in Thailand. We’re an international people.
    At the height of the credit boom, an Irish banker told me he wanted to lend Irish savings on the collateral of anticipated future earnings of a string of race horses. We’re a financially astute people.
    The Donegal Gaeltacht has in recent years succeeded in attracting children from as far afield as Nepal. We disseminate the benefits of the Irish language.
    The Irish understand morality as we’ve been schooled in it since birth. Which is why the depravity that Bishop Pat highlights has shocked us all to the core.

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    1. Are you drunker than I? What in Hades is your point? 😆

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    2. Magna Carta's Mum9 May 2018 at 21:34

      I wondered that, son. I was going to ask you but it was the moment you knocked over the bottle and started swearing.

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  39. 20.26: Can you explain the significance of your contribution? Don't get relevance except to ask - We're you in Thailand in search for "fun" or a holiday? Now, the answer to this might enliven our discussion!!!

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    1. Those whose scurrilous activities are described in this blog reflect the attitudes and behaviour of the society in which they grew up. Their moral laxity, their hypocrisy, is the same as in other Irish in other walks of life. To eradicate depravity in the Irish Church it must first be eradicated in Irish society. But is that what we want? Or do people prefer to wallow in filth, and express feigned shock and indignation for the very things that feed their own addictions?

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  40. 20.26.if the priest or not a priest was psychotic, he was ill...full stop.
    So no sacrilege or violations was committed.

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  41. Mick Collins a celibate Priest lol. He will end up like Donal O'Neill. The rumour is Collins has a carefully planned exit strategy as he has previously undertook CPE.

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    1. What is CPE?

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    2. Clinical Pastoral Experience - Chaplaincy Work

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    3. Chaplaincy training.

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    4. Thanks to both for your response.

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  42. Is there a new scandal on the cards, +Pat, or will you try wring a few more days out of Kildorrerry?

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    1. I will not be forgetting Kildorrey.

      I am on Radio Cork 96 FM in the morning between 9 and 12.

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    2. Thanks for letting us know.

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  43. Does anyone know what hospital either HSE or private will Collins be a Chaplain in.

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  44. Pat i do hope the above comments are true and Fr Collins is changing his career. If it is true God help the patient in the hospital bed, Collins is like something out of a psychiatric unit who broke out.

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    1. 23:27, do you financially support men like Collins...despite what you know? Because if you do, then you are worse than they!

      SHAME ON YOU!!!

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  45. How long is Collins ordained.

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  46. Never EVER trust a self-declared celibate chaplain.

    When will Roman Catholics learn? The honest answer is... NEVER!!!!! Because they are taught to have implicit trust in clerics...whore priests.

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