Monday, 11 June 2018

EURO 20 MILLION FOR POPES 36 HOURS IN IRELAND



THE FACT THAT POPE FRANCIS IS SPENDING Euro 20 MILLION FOR A 36 HOUR VISIT TO IRELAND IS BOTH A SHAME AND A SCANDAL!

Here is his schedule:


SATURDAY 25TH AUGUST 2018

Departure by plane from Rome/Fiumicino for Dublin
10:30
Arrival at Dublin International Airport
OFFICIAL WELCOME
10:45
Transfer to Áras an UachtarÑin
11:15
Arrival at the Presidential Residence
WELCOME CEREMONY in front of the main entrance of the Residence
11:30
COURTESY VISIT TO THE PRESIDENT in the Presidential Residence
12:00
Transfer to Dublin Castle
12:10
Arrival at Dublin Castle
MEETING WITH AUTHORITIES, CIVIL SOCIETY AND DIPLOMATIC CORPS in Dublin Castle
Speech of the Holy Father
15:30
Arrival at St Mary’s Pro-Cathedral
VISIT to the CATHEDRAL
Greeting of the Holy Father
16:15
Transfer to the Day Centre of the Capuchin Fathers
16:30
PRIVATE VISIT to the DAY CENTRE FOR HOMELESS FAMILIES of the CAPUCHIN FATHERS
19:30
Arrival at Croke Park Stadium
19:45
FEAST OF FAMILIES in Croke Park Stadium
Speech of the Holy Father

Sunday 26 August 2018

AN FLIGHT BY PLAIN FOR ONE HOUR IN KNOCK!
08:40
Departure by plane for Knock
09:20
Arrival at the Airport in Knock
Immediate transfer to the Shrine
09:45
Arrival at Knock Shrine
VISIT to the CHAPEL of Knock Shrine



ANGELUS on the square in front of the Shrine
Angelus of the Holy Father
10:45
Transfer to the airport in Knock
11:10
Arrival at the airport in Knock
11:15
Departure by plane for Dublin
11:50
Arrival at Dublin International Airport
Lunch with the Papal Delegation
14:30
Arrival at Phoenix Park
15:00
HOLY MASS in Phoenix Park
Homily of the Holy Father
MEETING WITH THE BISHOPS in the Convent of the Dominican Sisters
Speech of the Holy Father
18:30
Arrival at Dublin International Airport
FAREWELL CEREMONY
18:45
Departure by plane for Roma/Ciampino
23:00
Arrival at the Airport of Roma/Ciampino
PAT SAYS:


TWENTY MILLION FOR THAT!


Euro 555,000 an hour?


And:

- No meeting with the victims of clerical abuse in Ireland?




- No meeting with the Magdalen laundries victims?




- No visit to the Tuam Baby Burial site - just down the road from Knock?






Meetings with the President, politicians, bishops, the diplomatic corps and the "great and good" of society.

RESTRICTIONS:




And Amy announced today that there would be restrictions on the crowds for "health and safety" reasons.

Only 650,000 in the Phoenix Park.

Only 45,000 in Knock.


I am just wondering if the bishops are coming up with early excuses to deal with the drop in the crowds there will be since the John Paul visit in 1979?





How many houses could be built for the homeless out of Euro 20 million?




And their answer:




"The poor you will always have with you".



Any way that the RC Church for you. 

All I can say is that I will be nowhere near their party and I will not be contributing anything to it.


Imagine spending 20,000,000 to have a party to celebrate the death of the RC Church in Ireland.



149 comments:

  1. We could have written your script Pat. Typically predictable, tiresome and nasty. You live in your small vengeful, petty world. You are a twisted cynic and perpetuate a lie about the Church. You simply do not wish this trip to be a success in any way. You should mind your own business. You are a fraud and a fake. God bless Pope Francis.

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    1. The RC institution has a Titanic future in Ireland.

      The people have stirred and awoken.

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    2. Morally you have no leg to stand on. Deluded. Your Titanic sunk a long time ago.

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  2. Ah +Pat you must be only raging. You were at one time part of this and now you’re out on the side. Why don’t you become the Pope of Larne? God Bless

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    1. Why don't you run to knock or the Phoenik park screaming like a little bitch and be first in line to get up the Hierarchys arse.Pat will be more of a Bishop than any of those losers who will be wetting their little Lacey knickers dancing around Francis. Francis is no fool. He will see right through them fakes. Expect a lot of Bishop changes in Ireland after his visit.

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    2. 02.08 Thanks for your reply and your good words about Pope Frances he has inherited this mess and will clean it up and the Archbishops and Bishops know this.
      Sadly Pope Francis did not accept the first two to resign in Ireland and he has accepted the third.
      I sadly will repeat myself these Bishops, Clergy and Religious who are not up to the mark should go NOW before they are pushed and any Bishops, Clergy, Religious and Seminarians have sex and Relationships GOODBYE.
      The Church will Survive and be FIT for Mission.

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  3. Any Head of State e.g. the UK Queen costs a huge amount in helicopter and limousine fees and wages for large number of security personnel (to name but two sources of costs) when a visit is planned, prepared for and carried through . We have had many such expensive visits and we also make visits ourselves at the expense of other nations.
    However, we have not spent any money on a Papal visit for nearly forty years. The visit will actually boost the economy for certain Irish people, particularly in Mayo and Dublin but also further North eg coach companies, petrol sales, taxidrivers, catering and hotels, shops near the venues etc etc

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    1. Where did Jesus tell his followers "boost the economy" or to become a head of state?

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    2. 08.38: Pat, you are just one bitter, nasty cynic. You should reflect on the words of Jesus too - you are very selective about what parts of the gospel you choose to live. God bless Pope Francis and the many thousands who will be uplifted and nourished spiritually by his presence. He is most welcome and bigots like you should stay in your little caves.

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    3. But Jesus said Blessed are you when people speak all kinds of Calmuny against you.

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    4. Where did Jesus tell his followers to write a blog and post it on the Internet every day?

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    5. With the secular state of Ireland today it’s obvious that there wasn’t much uplifting or spiritual nourishment after the last papal visit. Wise up. This is the last throw to try shore up the big holes in a sinking and stinking ship. It’s the RCC last big hurrah

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    6. A blog is also a way of preaching the Message.

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    7. 09.39 - Not the gospel message but Pat's bias and hatred, sadly!

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    8. 11:29, 'bias and hatred'?

      Let's see. Helping to halt (however modestly Bishop Pat might claim) the ordinations to the priesthood of at least two highly unsuitable candidates.

      Helping to expose the moral, spiritual and doctrinal deficiencies of certain seminaries, their staff, and students.

      Helping to publicise the scandal of Magdalene-laundry abuse and the scandalous abuse of burying the bodies of poor children in a septic tank.

      And so very much more.

      Yes, this has nothing whatever to do with Jesus' gospel message to do right, to serve God first and his beloved children as he would himself.

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  4. Oh give me a home,
    Where there's no Pope of Larne
    Where there's nothing but Protestants stay.
    Where seldom is heard a discouraging word
    And flute bands play The Sash every day.

    No, no Pope of Larne
    No chapels to sadden my eyes
    No nuns and no priests
    No Rosary beads
    Every day is the 12th of July

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    1. MourneManMichael12 June 2018 at 09:53

      Anon @ 01:34: I prefer this one.

      The bishops hide in bunkers.
      'cos that's what bishops do.
      Eyes tight closed, hands over ears,
      they haven't got a clue.

      In days gone bye, they'd always try,
      to let the storm subside.
      I'm telling you, that just won't do.
      There's no place left to hide.
      When Bishop Pat smells a rat,
      and 'blogs of war' ensue.
      Bishops cower, devoid of power,
      their past misdeeds to rue.
      Amen!

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    2. 09.53 Don’t give up your day job Mr Heaney (Not)! Never read such nonsensical doggerel.

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    3. 09.53: MMM, surprised at you engaging in this tirade of offensiveness and ignorant bigotry. Thought you had a greater integrity than you are displaying here recently. Then, Pat's bug is insidious and poisonous.

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    4. Salesian Priest12 June 2018 at 15:27

      I am the King of Siam.
      For women I don't give a damn.
      But a good looking boy,
      Is always a joy.
      The say I'm a bugger.
      I am!

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    5. Amy had some horney rams,
      Who on the Net did try.
      To show some boys their hairy bits,
      And spoil her morning fry.

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    6. I am the very model of a modern Seminarian,
      I know things theological, liturgical, and biblical,
      I know the Deans and Bishops and I quote their tastes historical,
      From Diocese to Diocese, in order categorical;
      I'm very well acquainted too with elegance sartorial,
      Dressed up for each occasion, both liturgical and clerical,
      With modern social media I'm teeming with a lot o' news---
      With many cheerful facts about the saunas the professors use.

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    7. MourneManMichael12 June 2018 at 20:17

      Love it! Bravo!
      Just a pity we don't have W.S. Gilbert to pen lyrics about the shennanigans of the Irish RC church and Maynooth, although given your effort here A. @ 17:29 there's definitely potential there.
      Grand to see a bit of light hearted humour.
      MMM

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  5. Before VaticanII the Popes used to be seen as the Bishops of Rome, and they'de rarely leave Rome.

    But in recent decades they've taken to flying around the world as if they were the Dalai Lama.

    Along with so much of what the Vatican does it's undermining the authority of the local hierarchy.

    And every time there's a news-report that the Pope has said something or other it's detracting from the basic truths contained in the Lectionary readings and the Creed.

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  6. Meetings with victims are never put on the advance schedule. They are usually announced afterwards only, for the sake of the privacy of those concerned. He will almost definitely meet victims while here.

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    1. Exactly. Pat you'd be complaining if he had such meetings on his schedule, you'd call it a publicity stunt!

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  7. Pat, I am reminded of the old adage 'what would you expect from a pig but a grunt'.I could have penned your nasty invective for you, so predictable and so full of hatred and bile. You don't know who Pope Francis plans on meeting on his trip to Ireland do I suggest keeping your gob shut. You have the gall to criticize D'Arcy for his predictable publicity seeking rants? How many I's in HYPOCRITE?

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    1. Ireland is no lo get under the control of the Catholic Gestapo.

      Our "gobs" will not be silenced as they were before by the Maynooth Mafia.

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    2. Oh please. You are so far removed from the Church. You know only of the church portrayed by society.

      Change

      the

      record!

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    3. 09.38 Yesterday you made a terrible comparison with concentration camps and today an equally horrible comparison with the Gestapo. Poor taste, poor blog, poor arguments, poor you. I pity you and the sad life you seem to lead. And before you protest that you live a fantastic life you are fooling no one.

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    4. 09.38: Oh yes, Buckley, wallow in your crude, vulgar, hate filled nonsense. Get over your foolishness and threats of "I'll get them" mentality. If you were in the real world of work, family, mortgages, daily responsibilities and behaved in so nasty, petulant and silly, bitchy way, you'd be scorned and thrown out. Grow up for your age. Be a real man.

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  8. It's a fair comment 20 million for a pr stunt. Comments have a go at you but do not address the issue. Is the spending justified. Also the groups you mention. Will there be any contact or follow up. Bring out the posh frocks

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  9. Trips by world leaders cost money. I don't begrudge that. What I am angry about is why he isn't coming to Northern Ireland? For 50 years, what people associate Northern Ireland with is a form of religious war, one of whose protagonists he is the CEO of, yet he doesn't bother his backside to do a Clinton and head north and present himself as a peacemaker. It's been 39 years since the last papal visit-so perhaps in 2057, a pope might grace our shores again. Whoever comes that time won't find a Catholic Church here. I used to admire Francis but now I feel pretty cold. He has managed to visit countries where there are no Catholics or very few native ones on the ground. Albania (10.3 % of population), South Korea (7.9 %), Turkey (way under 1%), Sri Lanka (about 6%), Bosnia (the place with closest parallels to Northern Ireland in Europe-15%), Greece (about 0.5% -50,000 out of a population of 10 million), Armenia (c.14,000 out of a population of almost 3 million), Georgia (0.5%), Azerbaijan (250 out of a population of 9,900,000), Sweden (1.2%), Egypt (about 230,000 out of a population of 97 million), Myanmar (1%), and Bangladesh (400,000 out of a population of 160 million).

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    1. The Pope isn’t visiting all 32 counties. He’s visiting Ireland - Ireland encompasses north south east and west.

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    2. Someone's been busy on Wikipedia 07.57. Why come North when we elect idiots who can't form a Government. Who could blame the man?

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    3. I thought Armagh was the episcopal seat of Ireland. Why can't he visit there? He certainly isn't visiting any of the 6 counties which have been involved in the Troubles.

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    4. And if it weren't for wikipedia, most people would be in the dark why a Pope has visited Azerbaijan, a country of 250 Catholics twice in the period 2002-2016 rather than say countries with more substantial flocks. Even Islandmagee has probably more Catholics in it than Azerbaijan.

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    5. He's not coming North, why can't people get it into their thick skulls. Get over it. Write to Arlene and complain and see how far you get.

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    6. Leaving aside the pastoral content of the visit, the Pope has screwed up the huge PR benefits he would have drawn if he had come north on a 25 minute flight from Dublin. The headlines about his visit will compare the state of the Church to what it was in 1979. They will say that Catholicism was once all-powerful but now has been rejected by 70 percent of its population as in the latest abortion referendum. He could have come north, basked as a peacemaker building bridges and all that, but instead, he has forgone that. Whoever's advice he has taken regarding Ireland is totally wrong and idiotic. I have lost my respect for him.

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  10. Fear not all those who want to destroy the RCC in Ireland. Another religion is ready to fill those empty churches. The tears will then be of blood for the ordinary citizen who isn’t under civil law or canon law but who is under sharia law.

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  11. If we didn’t believe that Jesus existed as the Greek books say would we have this issue ? Would we have us v them ? I think we’d have peace. There was loads of stories similar to Jesus of Nazareth- everyone has their knickers in a twist.

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  12. Pat please address the issue of the Maynooth Survivors. These men have been systematical suppressed by Seminary Council. Pat these young mem live under constant fear of reprisals from Collins and Mullaney. The survivors have their names blackened. Pat within the last few weeks Mullaney has conducted a cull of those deemed rejecting his extreme left wing ideology. A cull meaning Mullaney has kicked out more heterosexual seminarians. These seminarians are deeply hurt and traumatised by Mullaney. No support by means of financial aid or support to gaining access to further education or employment was offered.

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    1. I agree. And these survivors need to come together and speak out.

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    2. Young survivors my hole. Nothing but a screaming bunch of girls. They haven't got the balls to speak out only constantly moan. If they are serious which they aren't then they should name the Sems allegedly thrown out but don't hold your breath on that one. Total garbage as usual that you foolishly get taken in by and then expect us to believe in such trash.

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    3. Mullaney and Collins CANNOT throw seminarians out it is NOT their role it is the Diocesan Bishop and usually his vocations director. remember every Five years the Bishops go to Rome and all is reported.

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    4. 12:23, effectively they can.

      The bishops would generally abide by their determinations, as they would be directly involved in the preparation of seminarians.

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    5. You should know all about it after being booted up the hole and out of the gates of Maynooth yourself for being totally unsuitable. Cork rejoices!!

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    6. To quote John Buckley, "Maynooth are the experts in formation, they are not to be challenged'.

      @15.26 In my lifetime I have seen many good men booted out of Maynooth only to be ordained elsewhere and be excellent priests. I have also seen Maynooth investigayed by Rome, not to mention many 'suitable' men being ordained in Maynooth only to leave within a short few years, snort drugs, rape, run away with nurses during their first appointment, be so unsuitable in parishes that they need to be moved yearly, be so unsuitable that they are perpetually stuck as Deacons.

      So whomever 15.26 refers to I applaud that man. Also I too am from Cork, you do not speak for me when you rejoice and for your record my most recent formation report (which was quite a number of years ago) welcomed me back to formation and I speak following a lifetime of ministry where I have seen quality of men in my profession become seriously questionable under a seriously questionable bishop - with an even more questionable diocesian secretary.

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    7. Magna, are you also a Leesider?

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    8. o.h.l, you might think that. I couldn't possibly comment.πŸ˜†

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    9. Of course, we can't knowingly have two langers in one place... that'd make us both RCC bishops. πŸ˜‰πŸ˜‚

      Peace be with you Magna.

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    10. Et cum tuo, o.h.l .πŸ‘

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  13. This blog today is a deliberate attempt by Pat to do his utmost to stir cynicism, begrudgery, anger and hatred. I'm not sure what "gospels" such nasty attitudes are from but most definitely they are not from CHRIST. One wonders why Pat continues to carry his baggage of vengeance. One this is clear - however valid some of his criticisms may be, he will never inspire, encourage, lift up and touch people in the way Pope Francis does. He is truly an inspiration, even in his flaws, sinfulness and imperfections. You are no match Pat! Get on your bike and head to Lough Derg for your sins.

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    1. 09.23! Please, what has Lough Derg done to deserve such a punishment.

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    2. My abiding memory of Lough Derg is the smell of the Ulster Fry coming from the priest's house :-)

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    3. You obviously haven’t been there in a very long time. You did very well in the dining room at St Peters Belfast as you often remind us on here.

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    4. I was physically beaten in that dining room and barred from entering it - and ate with the housekeepers in the kitchen.

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    5. Bishop Pat @ 11:26, I recall a similar experience (Not by me: I've never been to that superstitious, sado-masochistic blot on the landscape), but by a woman who complained that, during her three-days fast there, she had been tormented by the oh-so-alluring smell of fried sausages wafting out of the 'holy' priest's kitchen.

      Yes, these Roman-collared pimps sure know how to show consideration for others.

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    6. The Lough Derg strict fast is non - detrimental to most healthy adults for the prescribed short maximum duration of around three days. So that is fine.
      But it would be extremely damaging, irresponsible and unrealistic for the summer-long members of Lough Derg Staff to continue to restrict their nutrition in that severe way well beyond the prescribed three or so days. Got that?
      What surprises me is that we need to tell you this fact which one supposes should have been obvious.. But apparently not..

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    8. As I said 14:42, the Roman-collared bleep should have shown consideration for those voluntarily going hungry. 

      Such a fast may not be detrimental to the health of a reasonably fit adult, but hunger pains are hunger pains, wouldn't you agree? 

      And such a fast is difficult enough without some Roman-collared bleep, from gross lack of consideration, leaving his kitchen window wide open to make that fast even more painful and difficult. (I'm surprised I have to spell this out for you.)

      No one suggested that this man, and his staff, should not indulge themselves with good food and drink while others, barefooted, were going hungry; this is all in your head.

      But for Christ's sake! Would it have been asking too much, expecting too much, for these to keep in mind that a three-day fast is extremely difficult enough on its own without the added temptation from people who really ought to have had the 'cop' to know better? (I was going to say 'Christian compassion and consideration' instead...until I realised that such virtues are rare in Roman-collared bleep and their associates.

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  14. Francis is the CEO of RC INCORPORATED which sells a man made form of Christianity to fearful and blind customers. Those customers will now pay 20 million to see their CEO on Irish soil.

    As I say it is an expensive party to celebrate the downsizing of the multi national company in Ireland.

    The rest of us will stick with the real Jesus.

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    1. 09.34: The real JESUS might have much to say to you about your hatred and the nasty bigotry you are building up against Pope Francis. I somehow think and believe that the REAL JESUS truly dwells in the heart of Pope Francis. In your mean spirited heart dwells a figment of the real JESUS as you choose only what suits your convenience. MERCY, FORGIVENESS, COMPASSION, INTEGRITY, TRUTH - these Pat are the values of the real JESUS. You need to be very honest in your conscience. What a beautiful day to know that Pope Francis will walk among us as the Vicar of Christ, Successor of St. Peter.

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    2. St Peter was never in Rome!

      One of the bones found under the Vatican was of a woman and another of a rodent.

      "Conscience is the aboriginal Vicar of Christ" - Cardinal Newman.

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    3. Your book of quotes is outdated, it’s actually St John Henry Newman now. Total ignorance.

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    4. I prefer to call him Johnny Newman.

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    5. Well if you are going to be derogatory about him in your usual way, why quote him?

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  15. Well, if one is constructing an argument, it's good to have some form of evidence and Wikipedia does that job as opposed to just sounding off. I personally think the pope and his advisors can go and bleep themselves as they have shown themselves up as gutless cowards with no sense of leadership or empathy with Northern Ireland's unique, and very relevant issues. If the schedule is too gruelling-resign and let a younger man do it.

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    1. If you don't like it then it's a pity about you. Who cares what you have to say. If you are so critical of the Pope then why make a big issue of not being able to see him you clown.

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    2. It's probably because I did care about the Pope and the Church that I am so annoyed by the fact that he can't be arsed getting in a helicopter and flying the 25 minutes from Dublin to Armagh. I really don't see the logic in his position. He has given up a magnificent PR visit, at a time when in the South his Church's message has been so resoundingly rejected. As regards being clowns, you certainly are not a fool for Christ.

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    3. 10.31 Same argument can be applied to you. Why can’t you get off your fat ass and get to Dublin or Knock by car, bus, train, bike or hitchike if you are so put out by Francis not coming North.

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    4. In response to 11:19. Why can't Francis come to the spiritual heart of Ireland, namely Armagh? Surely, that's the centre of the Irish church? The reason why i won't get off my fat ass for Francis, this time, is because he has shown contempt towards the people of the north, whereby despite their suffering over the years, he can't be bothered to go and show the flag as such. As well as that, he would have been overwhelmingly welcomed by the Protestants of the north. Instead he will appear the ailing figurehead of a church that has gone down the gutter in the south. He will be a bit like the Dalai Lama.Nice man with nice soundbites(usually), but utterly irrelevant.

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    5. I’m sure what you think keeps His Holiness awake at night.

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    6. 11:53, I'm sure it would keep 'His Holiness'πŸ˜… awake every night...if only he had a conscience. But then, he sold his conscience decades when he took a vow of obedience to the Roman harlot. (Word has it he has been a good pimp ever since.πŸ˜†)

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    7. In response to 11:53 Surely part of his job description as pope is to worry about the state of his church and use all means to protect it and maintain its integrity. I really hope you are not clergy as such an attitude, for a pastor, would deserve a millstone and a deep drop into the sea.

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  16. Pope Francis and D Martin shit on the faithful suffered people of the north.

    Bitterly disappointed with Rome's divisional decision!

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    1. I do think that Francis should have made. even a brief visit North.

      But then he is coming to try and pull the "Catholic Republic" out of a very big hole - and he is wasting his time!

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    2. 10 33: Your cynicism knows no bounds. Since you no longer belong to the TRUE CATHOLIC CHURCH, your musings and opinions are irrelevant. Your hatred of all things Catholic is a cross you carry unnecessarily. Pope Francis, despite your promoting of prejudice, dislike, hatred and bias, will effect thousands of people on his short pastoral pilgrimage. Get over your begrudgery, you fool.

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    3. Stupid argument. Who cares what you think Pat, you don’t want him in Ireland full stop. Make up your mind as you keep changing your mind like the weather, then again everything about you is made up.

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  17. There will be a reboot in vocations in Ireland. We already see a large number of deacons. The Roman Catholic Church will revive on this Island God willing.

    Regardless of what may happen here and I hope it does revive - have a look in Rome and you’ll see all the young attractive priests running around. The RCC isn’t downsizing - maybe your view is based on parochial Ireland.

    I blame the rise of the nouveau riche. The Irish now are materialistic whereas past generations were not.

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    1. I think it is more about the Irish seeing that the Roman Emperor Mk 11 has no clothes!

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    2. Go to Africa, Asia, Latin America and to an extent Eastern Europe - that’s where the Catholic Church is truly alive and vocations flourish. New movements flourish too like Focolare and the Neo Catechumenal Way. The Church is going full circle as it’s always has done. Persecutions and hardships have been a lot worse over past centuries.

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    3. The Evangelicals are converting RCs by the lorry load in all those places you mention.

      The only way the RC Church is going full circle is a bit like the Armadilo bird:

      It follows its own tail for so long it eventually disappears up its own orafice :-)

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    4. Why do you so desire a 'reboot in vocations in Ireland'? To what? The priesthood of the Roman harlot? Because not one of these potential candidates would take a vow of obedience to Christ, but to the said harlot, to become her pimps.

      There is no such as being similtaneously a good person and a 'good' Roman Catholic priest. A 'good' Roman Catholic priest is one who observes his vow of obedience to Rome through his bishop or superior, regardless of the consequences. And we all know where this can lead, for example, to the concealment of the rape and sodomy of children.

      That nauseating exemplar of 'good' priest, Mr Sean Brady, obeyed his bishop and conspired, with other Roman Catholic pimps, to conceal the sexual abuse of two boys by the pervert Roman Catholic paedophile priest, Mr Brendan Smith. Was Mr Brady a 'good' priest? Yes, he was. In fact, he was a model for others aspiring to serve the Roman harlot as her pimps.

      But was Mr Brady a good person? Would Jesus have supported his blind loyalty to the Roman harlot at the expense of these boys and the children Mr Smith subsequently went on to terrorise and abuse?

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    5. And Brady will be prancing around with Francis in August.

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    6. Did you ever think Pat, Brady could be dead an buried along of his covering up and probably thousand,s more secrets with him. Brady should hold his head in Shame. His praying will achieve nothing for him. Its just Guilt.

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    7. 11.51: Good luck to Cardinal Brady if he is in the company of Pope France's. All you haters, Pat, Magna and the rest - go lick your wounds and grow beyond your pathetic, infantile, immature ways. Be real men. God bless Pope Francis.

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  18. I'm sure Pope Francis would have been content to send a video message to the WMF in Dublin. I found the attempts to bully him across the border quite nauseous. Pope John Paul begged the IRA to stop killing people. They told him they had their own theologians and that he should mind his own business. They haven't gone away you know.

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  19. Would he be welcome in the oratory?

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    1. EVERYBODY is welcome at The Oratory.

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    2. 11.20: Everybody....including snakes, rats, vipers, hate inciters, judases, Pharisees, all who are bigots.....

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    3. 15:50 And by their fruit you will know them...

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  20. Fully agree Pat. But I do think his visit will help mend the problems in Dublin and feel a visit North would have been fruitful.

    Imagine a Managing Director of any company turning his back on his struggling staff???
    Leadership at it's worst.

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    1. Obviously he does not really care about the Northern Ireland branch of RC & Co.

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    2. 'Leadership at its worst'? No; this was when Pope Francis, against advice from several significant quarters (including some Chilean bishops themselves) stubbornly, arrogantly, and stupidly appointed Juan Barros as a bishop in that country.

      The fool, Francis, has now ended up with egg all over his Latino face.

      (He still hasn't apologised to the People of God for the highly public lie he apparently told when he denied having evidence against Barrors (even though he had, in fact, received such evidence from Cardinal Sean O'Malley before Barros' appointment.)πŸ˜†

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    3. Surprised the Media assisted with this blog has not caught on that the Holy Father is not going to the North then the people have Bishop Pat and his team poor Father Gates and his HUGE parish has rejected the Bishop of Larne.

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    4. Magna Carta wake up and keep with the times Pope Francis has Sincerely Apologies and furthermore THREE Bishops resigned on Monday and Pope Francis said GOODBYE to them.

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    5. 13:02, he acted ONLY under media and other pressure. His conscience did not bring him to this juncture, but public criticism of his disgraceful ('grave errors') conduct did. This says a great deal about the maturity and effectiveness of Pope Francis' conscience.

      Incidentally, Francis has never admitted to telling that apparent lie about evidence against Barros. He has never accounted for the discrepancy between his claim that he had not received any evidence against this man and the fact that, actually, he had.

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    6. Magna Carta's Mum12 June 2018 at 19:24

      Magna, darling, just a thought, but I'm not sure my ecclesiastical ambitions are yet satisfied. How would you feel about mommie being...a pope?

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    7. Only the highest and best for you, mommie dearest.

      But only if you make me a cardinal...and your Secretary of State.

      What say you?πŸ˜†

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    8. Magna Carta's Mum12 June 2018 at 20:45

      Magna darling, such rank cupidity from you! At first I suspected you wanted to wear the cappa magna but have a terrible suspicion you have some crimes you want to flee using diplomatic privilege. You know Mommie's intentions are always pure and I would hate to think that history would remember me as a pope who promoted and protected relatives!

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    9. But, mommie dearest, isn't that part of papal tradition? Nepotism?

      You want to be a good, traditional pope, now don't you?

      But shouldn't we refer to you as 'pope-ess'...when the time comes? Or by some such feminine equivalent? 'Pope', after all, comes from the Greek for 'father'. And you are just, er, not naturally endowed for such a role, are you?πŸ˜†

      (Dearest, I need a safe place to hide for a time; till things settle, you understand? Seems every police force in the land are after me!πŸ˜†)

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    10. Magna Carta's Mum13 June 2018 at 00:21

      Now Magna, you know full well I won't facilitate your proclivities. The magazines by your bed are one thing but beyond that Mommy has a reputation to maintain. Don't you remember the little talk the family therapist gave us about codependence?
      You may run my marriage tribunal but if you're naughty I'll still turn you in.
      And incidentally you were confused the other night when you talked about Myra. I see she was arrested in October 1965 and you were long out of nappies by then.
      Silly boy! Mumsie x

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  21. Its a shame Pope Francis can't visit N.Ireland. Who would blame him. Is it any wonder the way this country is divided at present. Also Armagh diocese and the way it is going down the drain with the Sexual Abuse and covering it all up, It makes my blood boil to hear that nobody believed the innocent who are scarred for life or took their own life. Shame! on Sean Brady to make an appearance for the Pope's visit and Shame! On Eamon Martin whilst he can't sort his diocese out. It is an absoulte disgrace.As a Catholic student I wonder what this Anger and Hate is all about in N.Ireland. It is hard to imagine when you listen to politicians, especially Arlene Foster when she said, Whilst she was elected as first Minister, She had said she was going to work with all Catholics an Protestants in N.Ireland and Treat others equal. But at least I know she is treating Catholics like dirt. And where is her government now.Arlene is a very bitter and angry person no doubt about it. Queen Elizabeth came to the republic of Ireland spoke in Irish. Came to N.Ireland. Queen Elizabeth even met more Pope's through her entire reign.I wonder can Arlene take a good look at Queen Elizabeth and ask herself who is a better example.Shame! Arlene on you
    to Mock the Queen with those crowns you wear on your coat. Maybe Arlene,s eyes are now set on Theresa May's job next. The DUP are now ruling Teresa May in England and the rest of England with it. This is the way they try to rule six Counties in N.Ireland but wrecked the peace process. Why doesn't Arlene take a good look at herself an see the way N.Ireland is running without a government. Between Religion and Politics it's just one thing a Disease.

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  22. 10:54 It's not about bullying or politics, it's about good decent management.

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  23. Evil deeds have been done by evil people all throughout history from the very beginning. Cain kills his brother Abel. Evil people have disobeyed the commandments of God. This is basic knowledge. Satan is trying his very best to destroy the Roman Catholic Church through its priests because no priests no Eucharist sacrifice which Satan hates and fears. The Roman Catholic Church is the true apostolic Church corrupt people are bringing it down but through the worship and prayers of true men and women faithful to Christ the church will be restored and all of the Christian churches will be united in worship.

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    1. MournemanMichael12 June 2018 at 15:43

      And pigs will fly!
      The RC institution will decay into an insignificant historical epoch, just like past institutions like the Roman Empire, Persian, Hellenic, Mongol and more recently the Great British Empire.
      That some ignore compelling historical precedents invites rational explanation.
      MMM

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    2. 15.43: MMM - You're in your glorious prophetic mode - pronouncing the end of the RC institution - perhaps. Even atheists dream! Imagine.

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    3. The only certainty is that you will certainly decay into an insignificant rotten stinking corpse along with your equally obnoxious views.

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    4. MourneManMichael12 June 2018 at 20:04

      Anon @ 16:02 & 04:
      I invited "rational explanation." Is this ad hominem type retort the best rationality you can offer? Weak really!
      And 16:04, I won't decay too much as you forecast. I'm destined for the crematorium fire, not the illusory fires of your imagination.
      MMM

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    5. MMM, I expect to find you in Heaven with Big G and me :-)

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  24. 12:01 Shame on D Martin that didn't have the manners to lift his head when E Martin spoke.
    A fine example of division from smug face D Martin, he's the manners of a dog and the personality of a thug!

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  25. 13.29 You are easily offended and have little to worry you. Get a life.

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    1. 14:00 I'm not one bit offended or worried!
      Back to English Lessons for you, reading should help you progress.

      It's a public blog and I have every right just like you to post now go get stuck into your little book.

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    2. 17.05 If you are not worried or offended why make a big issue out of D Martin not lifting his head up. Petty!! Go and look that word up.

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    3. 17:53 It looks like a dictionary is now needed for you!

      What link has petty got with worried or offended?

      I'll reassure you again, I am neither. Plain simple English is I couldn't care but again for your simple understanding it was my observations that give way to me to comment on this public blog!

      I sincerely hope this gets through to you!

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  26. Yes 13.29 Maybe you would have preferred him doing a big fart instead. Idiotic what you said.

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  27. The only reason why Pope Francis is coming to Ireland this year is because it happens to be this year's venue for the World Families occasion. Some people are reacting as if this were a real Papal pastoral visit like the 1979 one It's not. He is coming to attend a specific event and he has already been pressurised to go sideways somewhere else.
    Do your research, folks, that some of you like to think you're good at!

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    1. Indeed, 14:53. It is a bit out of place for Francis to visit a country with a Catholic majority as opposed to somewhere he usually prefers to visit where Catholics are 3 percent of the population at most.

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  28. I imagine the Pell trial will overshadow his visit plus a few new Gaynooth scandals (I hope).

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  29. 17.04 You must be one sick individual if you wish for scandal. Sick in the head more like, hardly surprising if you are attracted to this blog.

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  30. Now the poor Jehovah's suffering being harrassed by Mr McConnell, God love them having to endure him and God love his little heart!

    +Pat, he is shattering your credibility , unfortunately!

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    1. 17:12..... he's trying to be smart by telling the world publicly on FB that he has access to all the anonymous poster's private information on this blog!
      He's putting off the regular bloggers on here.
      Now night shift sleep time.

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    2. He doesn’t have any information. Google are not allowed share that unless they have received a court ordered disclosure request. Even at that all they would have is the IP and then it would be the internet company who has to further breakdown that information as to which of their customers psotsed what etc.

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    3. Hes full of his own s....e, excuse my pundit 18:31.

      Putting posts with thrash language up one minute and then removing the next.

      Like a child losing its dumby, when one makes reference to him he crys! His mind is caught in a time warp.

      I genuinely feel for him but my compassion is running out very fast!

      I don't agree with Pat Buckley in the way he crawls on top of those hurting but agree with him in what he's trying to achieve but would rather a different form of attack.
      This Lad/ man or boy McConnell is demeaning Pats image amoung the faithful people that see in sone instances the wrong doing of the Church but have no platform to express it.

      If I read or hear of anymore links I'm going for good from this blog, not good if everyone took the same veiw!

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  31. Every parish in the Country will be given one free family ticket to the Papal Mass in the Phoenix Park. Will Priests tell their Parishioners about this. How will it be distributed in a fair way or will it be simply given to the priests cronies. People should be madevaware of this as not much is being said about it.

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    1. No, I don't think so. They'll be desperate for any ticket takers this time round.

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  32. Leo Varadkar has today said in Dail Records to certain lefty party members and others: stop trying to turn religious people into pariahs. God save our Gracious Taoiseach. Long may He Reign.

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    1. Well, heaven knows religious people turned others into pariahs for long enough!

      So-called 'fallen women' (Magdalene-laundry abuse)

      Protestants (especially in Ireland)

      The poor

      Etc.

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    2. @18:52

      Good luck with that.

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    3. 18.52 The pope's visit to Varadkar is 'to showcase the country'. That's all. Imagine he is the leader of the most popular party in Ireland. That's how low this country has sunk. If only the sun would shine, it would be an astonishingly successful visit.

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  33. If there was a Northern Ireland Government administration the Pope would visit the North. Otherwise, if the Pope visits the north he might be seen as being used as a pawn to pressurise both sides to get together and form an administration. Just an opinion.

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  34. Will Fr Gates sing for the Pope? I wonder.

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    1. No he will scream at the 80 year old for losing the key of his room.

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    2. He's a midden, +Pat.

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    3. Pity they would lock Gates up an throw away the key. Would be less crowing out of the wee squawk. I bet he has a seat booked beside the Pope when he comes.

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  35. What did it cost the country to bring members of the British Royal family over here in the last few years and American Presidents and what money did they help make for the country. Anyway whats it costing you up there in Northern Ireland.

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    1. Maybe it cost €20 million but it was for 4 days.

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    2. If you must know it cost us the remainder of this Island of Ireland. Britain stole 6 counties from the North of Ireland. Tortured the North of Ireland for over 40yrs. So remember we are not all British up here.

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  36. The Catholic Church has endeavoured to raise most of the funds necessary to cover the cost of the papal visit. Northern Catholics can easily visit the South if they wish to attend the papal Masses. A papal visit to Northern Ireland was never on the cards. Despite the Good Friday Agreement, the peace process, and all the international efforts made before and after those events, it is abundantly clear that the communities in the North are irreconcilably divided and there is no present or future hope of this ever changing. A papal visit to Northern Ireland could have run the risk of fomenting sectarian violence, or at minimum, causing further rancor and bitterness among the communities, in addition to imposing a great strain on PSNI. The Vatican has wisely decided not to risk the Pope becoming a source of inter-communal disharmony in the North.

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    1. 23:58 A load of idiotic nonsense!

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    2. 23:58 Utter garbage. In that case why did the Pope go to Bosnia, Myanmar, Armenia, Georgia, Palestine, the Philippines, Egypt,etc,etc. Your ignorance is breath-taking.

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  37. The invitation extended to the Pope recently to visit N Ireland was actually warmly endorsed by several prominent Protestant clergy who were anxious to show solidarity with their Catholic colleagues and neighbours in the province. This was definitely no surprise to some of us. The reason is that there are literally thousands of people from all walks of life in job situations, sports and other recreational activities, music and drama activities, educational activities etc etc who are completely integrated and for whom religion and political point of view doesn't ever infringe on our friendships and working relationships in the slightest.. not even in the darkest days of the Troubles. I am one of them I am very happy to say and I am not alone. But we never grab the headlines. Why are we always completely overshadowed by those people who seem to make it their life's work to live every aspect of their lives through the prism of sectarianism? I also blame those who paint N Ireland as a place where sectarianism is the only reality. It is not! This myth--that ALL of us live in a divided "unreconciled" way needs to be challenged for the lie that it is. But you rarely hear about that since the acts of bigotry and sectarianism will also be the matters which dictate the headlines and thus there is a distorted perspective for UK students and even our closest neighbours in the Republic of Ireland seem to have the impression that none of us from differing religions /politics etc can be close friends and work and play together. We do! But some others seem incapable of it and sadly we are all tarred with the same brush .. Very frustrating. Now we are been asked to believe that the Pope possibly shouldn't visit the North in case he "makes things worse"!! What utter tripe.. A hollow excuse which deceives no-one. The organisers should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves, especially as Armagh is the liturgical capital of the whole country. Why was their decision not soundly challenged when the plans were being drawn up?

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    1. 1.06 Couldn't have put it any better.

      We need Jamie Byrson, Big Willie Frazer and Jamie 'Mmmm' full of threats McConnell to sort this out!
      Cause a wee Birdie told me he's the power to take on the world, another influential leader to add weight to the issue should include the bucko from North Korea.
      What a powerful foursome!

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  38. MourneManMichael13 June 2018 at 10:32

    There are indeed thousands who are fully integrated just as you claim, but I do not agree with your portrayal of a supposedly fully integrated N Ireland. It remains a divided society where people in 'their own camp' may feel secure and distanced from threat or discrimination. But throughout the North there still remain huge swathes both geographically and otherwise, where a 'them and us' perception predominates, and the sussing out of strangers allegiances is pervasive. Those from outside the North may be oblivious to the games being played, but those in the Wee North know the score.
    "What school did you go to? What did you say your name was? etc etc"
    MMM

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    1. I never said N Ireland was FULLY integrated, did I?

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    2. Brother, I wrote at 23:58, and I commend you for your decency and generosity of spirit; you are not alone; if only there were more like you. But your views do not reflect those generally held in Northern Ireland. MMM’s comment at 10:32 expresses the way things are in the North. Fact: the Pope is not coming to Northern Ireland. You may dispute the reasons I gave. But he is not coming. However unacceptable it may be to a person who lives his life in a spirit of openness and generosity as you and MMM do, the fact is that Northern Ireland is and is perceived to be by just about everyone who doesn’t live there as a sectarian society. That is a fact. No sentiment or wish-thinking will alter it. Northern Irish are unconsciously anointed with sectarian oils at birth even though they or their parents may not wish for the same. And sectarianism is why Northern Ireland is avoided not just by the Pope but by international business. At one time the difference between Belfast and Dublin economically was vastly in Belfast’s favour. The position is now reversed. Yet the government in Northern Ireland, which is structured entirely on sectarian lines, was given exceptional latitude – not given to any other part of the UK - to fix corporate tax rates unconstrained by UK tax policy and rules. It was given carte blanche to write its own economic future. Instead of taking advantage of this opportunity, instead of expressing the community’s collective economic interests in the face of Brexit, it resorted to the typical Northern Irish stand-off.

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