Tuesday, 26 June 2018

MAYNOOTH - QUESTIONS.





MORE AND MORE QUESTION ARISE ABOUT MAYNOOTH AND VARIOUS ACTIVITIES THERE.

We know that seminarians there have been sexually active with each other, with priests and with laymen.

Some seminarians have left as a result and a small number have been sent away.

Some sources that the Maynooth problem goes deeper than simple sex between two men.




There are claims about the use of drugs by seminarians - so-called "poppers" and Class A drugs like LSD and magic mushrooms.




These poppers and drugs are brought in by seminarians and seminarians friends.




There are claims that seminarians have practiced BDSM - bondage, domination, and sadomasochism under the influence of drugs.




One at least one occasion this led to a bone fracture.

There are claims that a small number of seminarians are providing "rent boy" services to priests in various parts of the country and to more senior clerics.




There are claims that as a result of these services some seminarians are blackmailing priests and senior clerics.

There are claims that some of these activities take place in private homes in well healed Dublin suburb to where seminarians are summoned singly or in pairs.

There are claims that seminarians are selling viagra and poppers to other seminarians, priests and Maynooth lay students.

One report says that an ex-seminarian is receiving a generous monthly stipend from a very senior cleric.

That ex-seminarian and his benefactor have been to a Dublin sauna together.



Up to now, many people thought that a few seminarians were simply bedding each other and others.

But it seems the corruption is much deeper - involving money, blackmail, drugs and people on long-term stipends.

Of course, all this has happened in Rome and in different parts of the world.

Now, it is happening in the church in Ireland.

Names have been mention - some very surprising and some not so surprising.

It goes from the bottom to the top and all the way back down again.



96 comments:

  1. More unsubstantiated filth from a poisoned mind. Provide us with names dates and times Liar Buckley or shut up!

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  2. Pat, substantiate your "it is claimed" assertions. How certifiable are these rumours? All seems dangerous speculation.

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    1. I have names, dates, addresses etc.

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    2. From whom have you received these names, dates, addresses, etc? How are we to know that the people supplying you with this information don’t have a nefarious agenda of their own for doing so? What methods of fact checking have you employed? What have you done to obtain independent verification?

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    3. I have received them several sources, all connected, loosly or otherwise, with Maynooth.

      The same peoplevsupplied me with previous information that proved accurate.

      They may have agendas?

      I am not the police with forensic facilities.

      To prove these allegations to a level acceptable to a court of law, these people, or some of them, would have to make sworn statements.

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    4. You’re willing to take the chance on destroying someone’s reputation. I’d imagine you’d want to make absolutely sure of the information you were being given and the character of the person giving it to you before you would take that step.

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    5. @ 17:53 “I’m not the police”
      But you seem to revel in being judge, jury, and executioner despite the dubious nature of your evidence.

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  3. Pat. Name names. Publish and be damned. If the ones that are naughty and protest their innocence want to prove it then let them have their day in court. The term opening a can of worms springs to mind.

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  4. Years ago I would not have believed this activity was possible at this level but now I wonder. In an environment where celibacy is an ethos why is sexual activity so over the top allegedly. Mind you they were having it off in the middle ages and Indeed in the Roman empire

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    1. The Royal Family, The Tudors and Windsor’s, Heads of the Church of England had it off too Vicar of Sligo

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    2. I have nearly finished "Goodbye Good Men". I don't agree with all it's views but it seems to be saying that piety was frowned on but they wanted you to explore your sexuality. In America it was hard for a heterosexual to stay as the atmosphere was so sexually charged. Donald Cozzens says the same thing in his books. They have known about this for several decades and done nothing.

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    3. 10:16 Yes, and amazingly, piety was indeed frowned upon. Why? The Cain-and-Abel syndrome? It's a plausible explanation. The Cains prefer to live in the shadows rather than in the searching light of emerging holiness in another. This light merely shows up lack of holiness and makes the Cains highly uncomfortable. It's why unrepentant souls cast themselves into eternal darkness rather than enter the inscrutable light of God's love and mercy.

      I recall a fellow student's once being chided by a dean for 'praying too much', despite the fact that Paul-the-self-styled Apostle exhorts his readers to 'pray constantly'.

      Seriously.😕

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    4. Magna, Why did Cain have no children?

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    5. Trick question, Bishop Pat?😁

      According to Genesis, Cain did eventually father children, but, as we both know, this part of Genesis is pre-history, in other words, 'not historical narrative'.

      Cain, as spiritual metaphor, fathered many, many children: spiritually bad children.

      His progeny live on, sadly.

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    6. Cain did not have any children because he wasn't Abel 😎

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    7. Ha ha ha You know: just after I posted, I thought he's joking; there's a punchline coming.

      But I didn't see it.😅

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    8. 9.44 Indeed The truth will out. My "offence" doesnt seem too bad in the scale of things since I left. This is NOT an excuse. How many clerics bubbled and suffered under the surface because they wouldnt or couldnt stand up and be counted. Yet a small minority of one or more anonymously likes to hurl abuse at me.....Sad

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    9. I wonder what the Vicar of Sligo feels about the next head of the "Church of England" lol and "Defender of the Faith" being that notorious adulterer and home breaker Prince Charles?

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    10. 19 43. It's the age old struggle between the law and the spirit. If a three legged dog were king would he be head of CoE. There were some roguish popes about through history

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  5. Very likely it's all kept in-house, so to speak. For example, I never came across the KOB on the gay scene despite him admitting he pooved all his adult life... even having a quickie now and again in the confessional!

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    1. That's why it's "safer" for clerics and seminarians to have sex, drugs etc with each other.

      But is also leads to blackmail and the flow of cash, sometimes church cash.

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  6. There was a nasty incident in Rome concerning the displaced carmelites. The friar s has been using a man with schizophrenia as a rent boy. The parishioners complained to the superior of the order who did nothing. It was reported in the London Times.

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  7. ROME 2013

    A convicted paedophile priest has claimed a rent boy ring operated at the Vatican with clergymen hiring teenagers for sex inside churches.

    Don Patrizio Poggi, 46, who served a five-year sentence for abusing five boys aged 14 to 15, at his parish outside Rome, has given police a list of nine names.

    Four people have been placed under investigation - including a monsignor who is currently the secretary of an important bishop, it has been alleged.

    Also being investigated is a former Carabinieri policeman suspected of recruiting under-age boys for the alleged prostitution ring.

    The ex-officer apparently snared the teenagers, mostly eastern European immigrants, outside a gay bar named Twink near Rome's Termini train station.

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  8. Hi Pat are you in contact with Pasty over the revelation of Maynooth rent boys.

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  9. Whoever makes at least one Rosary Prayer daily without fail will never be doomed...!
    Why do Catholics Venerate and Pray to Blessed Virgin Mary?:

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    1. Online Journalist at 11:39 seems like a fun guy.

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  10. Bishop Pat, would I be right in thinking that there is a BIG Cork connection with your blog today? Some of us priests here are lining up the dots......Cork PP.

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    1. Keep connecting the dots. You are doing very well.

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    2. Indeed this blog posted a few days ago about how Tom Deenihan covered up for one seminarian, and actively sought to have him placed in the Bons despite his sexual misconduct. One can only wonder how much Tom covered up in order to secure mitre(s)

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  11. Xxxxxxx needs to face justice. Xxxxxxc controls Xxxxxxx and had to pay out Xxxxc Xxxxx.

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  12. Xxxxxxx was forced into the prostitution ring.

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  13. The drugs were smuggled on Ryanair flights from Barcelona. The xxxxxx member was in charge of the operation. It was mainly LSD and occasionally MDNA.

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  14. Xxxxc, Xxxxxx and Xxxxxx are the source for these substances. Wink wink Xxxxxx who is an Xxxxx seminarian. Xxxcccc knows how to bypass customs.

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    1. 12:38, 12:39, 12:41 and 13:00

      I already have all the names you mentioned.

      The problem is that there is no one willing to act - neither Nuncio, Amy Diarmuid & Co.

      It's going to have to be made public when we can achieve that.

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    2. What about Patsy McGarry in IT?

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    3. This is all going nowhere- pointless

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    4. I always share the unredacted stories with Patsy when he wants to.

      I also have other journalists I keep updated.

      I agree that it is very difficult to process this stuff.

      But with patience it is done.

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    5. I think the despicably dishonest ruse of people buying up online huge quantities of free tickets (--originally intended for ensuring admittance and adequate standing space during the Pope's visit-) and then destroying the tickets with no intention of using them on the day should be roundly condemned by all decent people. This has been happening as a result of a Facebook campaign which is "determined to make the attendance look small" One trickster ordered 400 tickets with false details and a fictitious story about "organising coachloads". The 45,000 tickets for Knock are now all "allocated" and many bona fide folk will now be disappointed and unduly so because of that scam. One other trickster called Jonathan Keane, using three different email addresses, snatched up 800 tickets which will be destroyed unused. Are these people so keen to pretend that the "attendance was low" that they will sink to this level of subterfuge??
      Pat, you always claim that you are keen to uncover lying and dishonesty - - So what is your opinion of this then?

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    6. I think what they are doing is very wrong and unjust to people who sincerely want to see Pope Francis.

      I have no desire to be there.

      But why would I undermine others who want to be there?

      Be the members small or large, they should be genuine numbers and Nat faked by the folk you mention.

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    7. 14.09 well seen you circulate with the low of the low as that is shocking to read the people involved should just leave the Church.
      We want a refreshed Church with people who follow the Church and this low life scum taking ticket and stopping others getting them.
      This is a WORLD WIDE event and would put Dublin on the World Stage.
      Thanks + Pat for condemning these idiots.

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    8. 14:09 If your post is reliable, then what has happened is disgraceful, morally reprehensible, and, hopefully, a criminal offence.

      But could it be a deception by pro-Francis elements to help explain what they fear will be low turn-outs vis a vis Pope JP II's rallies in 1979?

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    9. @14.09, re the Papal visit tickets, just maybe thats the excuse that will be used for the poor turnout at Knock etc.
      Preemptive strike eh! Clever......

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    10. I think the final turnout at Knock will be high, all 45,000 tickets were gone shortly after 9am. The various Facebook groups only started to organize later that morning and have been block-booking for the Phoenix Park. Tickets still available there, by the way.

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    11. All the tickets, full capacity, for the Papal visit to Knock got snapped up in a few hours after release. Sorry to disappoint 14.57

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    12. 14.09 Your info about Papal tickets is totally false. You claim someone used 3 different email addresses to apply for 800 tickets. One email address can only apply for 6 tickets each. Now my Maths has never been up to scratch but I think 3 email addresses multiplied by 6 tickets each equals 18 tickets. Your figure of 800 is totally inaccurate and is not possible.

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    13. @15:57 it’s not so far-fetched, you can buy ‘bot’ software online for a few hundred Euros that can harvest hundreds of tickets. The same software touts use for concerts.

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    14. 16:43 But then, the 'software' is accessible to either side in this matter, isn't it? To pro-Francis elements as much as to Francis' detractors?

      If the subterfuge reported at 14:09 is actually going on, then do we really know which side is responsible for it? The pro-Francis element has motive just as strong (perhaps stronger, given the feared, relatively low turn-outs) as that of Francis' opponents.

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    15. It was extremely unjust to insinuate that 14.09 must "associate with the low...."because he/she drew Pat's attention to this scam.. .and it most certainly is a scam and has been happening .

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    16. Oh come on Magna... There is no deception on the part of the sellers... Why would they tell people wrongly "They're all sold" and thus prevent further sales?! That doesn't make sense...

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    17. 17:35 But which side in this attrition of 'secular' versus the 'sacred' is responsible for it? Associating it with the secular simply because you call it 'a scam' is not reasonable, nor is it fair: the sacred is not unfamiliar with scams in its history.

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    18. 17:53 I did not say that the reported deception was perhaps being committed by 'the sellers', but by pro-Francis elements trying to avoid the embarrassment of low turn-outs of people at papal venues in Ireland relatve to those at the time of JPII's visit here in 1979.

      Most pro-Francis supporters are not involved in distributing tickets for these venues.

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  15. BY EDGAR ALBERT GUEST

    Somebody said that it couldn’t be done
    But he with a chuckle replied
    That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
    Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
    So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
    On his face. If he worried he hid it.
    He started to sing as he tackled the thing
    That couldn’t be done, and he did it!

    Somebody scoffed: “Oh, you’ll never do that;
    At least no one ever has done it;”
    But he took off his coat and he took off his hat
    And the first thing we knew he’d begun it.
    With a lift of his chin and a bit of a grin,
    Without any doubting or quiddit,
    He started to sing as he tackled the thing
    That couldn’t be done, and he did it.

    There are thousands to tell you it cannot be done,
    There are thousands to prophesy failure,
    There are thousands to point out to you one by one,
    The dangers that wait to assail you.
    But just buckle in with a bit of a grin,
    Just take off your coat and go to it;
    Just start in to sing as you tackle the thing
    That “cannot be done,” and you’ll do it.

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  16. If this blog is TRUE today these Seminarians need to go now and the Clergy as well it is shocking to read.

    I do NOT believe the Nuncio and Bishops are not interested but due to Canon Lawyer they need it as factual.
    Why has the Police never be informed.

    Be rest assured and as Archbishop Martin said on the radio he will cleanse Ireland.
    These Seminarians and Clergy days are numbered they be better to go before they are told to go.

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    1. Go on Google and search "priests and rent boys".

      These things have and are happening all over the world, including in Ireland.

      There is NO Irish bishop willing to tackle these problems.

      They are either personally compromised or know that the full revelations of all of this will be the last blow for the Irish Church.

      But ALL this information WILL come out!

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    2. Sounds like another scoop for the blog, +Pat. A summer sizzler!

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    3. 14:30 Alert illiterate gay Irishman living in Scotland is at it again - getting enough sex himself but prying into the sexual lives of others.

      Go back to school first.

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  17. If you are so sure of the facts or think an enquiry is needed and you are being ignore by the Papal Nuncio and the Bishops of Ireland then you must send it for the attention of Cardinal Pietro Parolin and he will take the appropriate and send it to the right person you may not get a reply but action will be taken if it is True these allegation.
    However I sincerely hope that none involved are going to be one of the next eight Bishops for Ireland.
    This is very worrying.

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    1. Or Cardinal Sarah.

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    2. Cardinal Sarah is returning all post back to Ireland. It's simply all stamped 'Cardinal Sarah no longer at this Rome address'. Poor man is sick getting so much post via the advice of 15.48.

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    3. Magna Carta's Mum27 June 2018 at 19:45

      Concerns can be sent to me if you like:
      The Rt Rev Mrs Carta,
      The Flat Above the Offlicence,
      Old Antrim Road,
      Ballymena.
      I will try to get to letters before my Magna does. He's a little enthusiastic in his role of Episcopal Vicar sometimes.

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    4. Mommie dearest, zeal for the cause is a virtue.
      (And I'm intellectually sharper after a dram or ten.)

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    5. 18:04 - yes but he lives in Scotland.

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  18. Gay Irishman living in Scotland @ 15.48

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  19. Anymore on the Armagh clergy moves

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    1. Is Rory getting a parish assignment, Pat?

      I'm looking forward to the Kilmore diocesan changes as I can't wait to see where they put parish-dodging Paul Prior. Where has he been during his year-long lay funded sabbatical?

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    2. I hear PP of Blacklion Cavan

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  20. 14.42 Faith is hardwired in me and I used to slog my guts out for the church. No matter what a lay person does, this rank corruption is mining all within. I am just waiting for it all to collapse. This website helps me a lot. How can I talk about this with any of my friends at church? How can I tell them how badly they are being betrayed?

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  21. Bishop Buckley are you willing to go public about the Maynooth allegations.

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    1. Post all evidence anonymously to several news papers and be damned to Maynooth. Hang them, hang them all.

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  22. It's all too far-fetched Pat. There are only about 20 sems in Maynooth yet you you would have us believe that they are all gay, having sex with priests, being rent boys, pimps, blackmailers, drug users and dealers. It stretches credibility too far.

    Are you sure you haven't mixed up Maynooth with Maghaberry?

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    1. I do not believe that all the seminarians in Maynooth are involved in these matters.

      I do believe that a small number are.

      Those who are are well known for sexual matters and are alleged to be involved in the other issues.

      I think that Maghaberry is better run than Maynooth :-)

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  23. Why are people surprised that a system of drug smuggling and an active sex trade has fine tuned itself in Maynooth since the early 80's. The drive to force out young men who were obviously heterosexual, especially if they liked a pint or played sport, began in earnest under the stewardship of MML. His range of wigs and convenient insomnia allowed him to drift through the night.

    On the night of the first Sunday of September 1986 MML addressed the large group of new recruits and likened them to trail blazers. In hindsight years later it would have been better to have been able to read the Braille Teasers that all was not well in the House of MayNudes.

    A few interesting facts about that night. Paulette A Priori was the baby of that group (baby not babe), Chewi Conn was the monitor based in the centre of Long Corridor and sang the first song to get an impromptu get together going. The triumvirate of Top Cat, Nellisauras and the Munchins Mauler prowled around in the bushes to watch the crowd disperse to shared rooms in Long Corridor, wondering would the room lottery have worked for these new twosomes. Strangest day of my life and so strange to read through some of the historic blogs on here last night and to see that Paullette became a doppelganger of Nelly. a quick look at a recent photo of PP and one of NA from the mid 90's even show a scary resemblance. The foundation was laid to place the power base firmly in the hands of a strengthening Gay Cabal.

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    1. I also signed up in September 1986 and well remember those first few days. Though he was baby-faced, Paul Prior was not the youngest. Ned Hassett of Waterford and Lismore was the class baby and he delivered the speech on behalf of the Silver Jubilee class during the recent meeting of the Maynooth Union.

      Paul Prior was sly from the start.

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    2. I stand corrected, Ned was the youngest. He lived down the noisy end of Long Corridor, far away from the Hairdressing Salon. I remember Groanin Ronin appearing down one evening to complain about the noise, rolling his R's. Ned had just let fly with the sliothar and nearly landed it in Bonin Mac Liomars mouth. A modern Setanta was our Ned

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    3. In those days Long Corridor hadn't been divided off by fire doors and Ned could make a sliothar go from one end to the other.

      One night in 1986 some of the Tulips had a party in a bedroom above Fr James O'Kane's rooms. No alcohol, just Ribena and giggles.

      Poor James (a co-di of Pat's in those days) appeared at the party door in stripy pjs and made a very timid protest. The big camp Scots Robbie Coltrane lookalike in the class laughed at him.

      James got on the house phone to the Junior Dean. Duhig was over in minutes and scattered the Tulips. He had a look of total disgust as he looked at them leaving the room. I saw this happening from down the corridor.

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  24. That arm of the guy in the jail cartoon looks like a very crude part of a man's anatomy below the waist.

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  25. It's evident that no one on this blog prays or meditates not even and especially Pat. If they did it would be evident in their replies. Pray, pray, pray as Our Lady urges for the last 100+ years.

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    1. I share your concern, it's not true that we have ALL ignored Our Lady's requests. There doesn't seem to be much mention of the spiritual here which surprised me at first but then many of these people have other 'fish to fry'. Our Lady of Good Success prophesied these times for the Church several hundred years ago and here we are! To say that it is not the Church that Jesus founded because Satan has used his earthly minions to subvert her, as She said would happen, seems to show a total lack of faith in general and in Our Lady's warnings at so many places in particular.

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  26. Moriarty was high on LSD and enjoyed his wrist been broken. Moriarty was like a small fat pig prostated on the floor.

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    1. Do you mean what you say? Prostated?

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    2. If factual what has been foisted upon the Kerry Diosces? Very worrying indeed!!

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  27. I suppose the question I would really like to ask is what influence the impending raft of scandals had on ideas of formation in the 80's?

    Did the focus on formation become lazy and lost as Triumvirates focused on disease eradication? Easy to eradicate those who might bring a member of the opposite sex to a quarry at night where steamed up windows might attract attention. Relatively easy to eradicate those who might end up having a few drinks, leading to them kicking a fellow priest up the ass in a local pub following a tense football match.

    What remained was a group where the majority were increasingly effeminate, androgynous or actually actively practicing homosexuals. With how active some were and with how voracious they were in practicing, they pretty much perfected it.

    Crux question/ Could someone have actually suggested that turning a blind eye to certain activities might lead to a safer church less likely to expose itself to scandal? A certain amount of copping off and coupling up in-house would go under the radar and hopefully lessen the chances of a priest predator of pubescence rearing their ugly head. Of course it would be a lot less of a threat to the Church's wealth too. Just putting this out there for consideration and discussion

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  28. When are we going to have a blog about the FSSP? Nothing has been done about them yet, and I have heard some interesting things about some of their members.

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  29. Bishop XXXXXXXX of XXXXXXXXXX has said: "I prefer women to men." How can that be, +Pat?

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    1. 23.14: What a stupid question. Utterly banal,irrelevant and wacky! Get a brain....

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  30. Bishop Pat, you are being played, and have been played for many a day.

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  31. Byrne used to have different strengths of Poppers. Byrne would give free samples to the lads and then they would be hooked on it.

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  32. These 2 comments with names associated with LSD and Amyl Nitrite are indeed sinister. There were Poppers in Maynooth 4 decades ago. I would be more concerned with the Puppets than the Poppers.

    The plot to disable Maynooth goes back to the time Pat began his Pavement Pounding Placard Pushin Pursuits a lifetime ago, well a Christ-ike lifetime ago in that it must be 33 years. The placement of a parade of Pernicious Pansies has inflicted more self-flagellation than in a mid-eighties Mary's party where purple braided leather whips were de rigeur.

    Who are the handful of Grandmasters and who plays this Gambit? Methinks a Cardinal sin or two, or maybe a 'wannabe' Cardinal sin or two befell this Institution in the last half century. Maynooth is not the major problem, but it certainly became the target and the means to self destruct the very fabric of the Catholic Church in Ireland. In reality Pat, it will not drive people in the direction of The Oratory, it is driving the hordes away from Catholicism totally.

    I feel sympathies for the many fine men who went through those walls, have dedicated their lives to God, have saved numerous lives and enriched hundreds of thousands of lives, yet now are deemed guilty by association in the eyes of the blinkered. That is the biggest disservice and sin of all. Someone in Positions of Pivotal Power Placed these Pernicious Pansies that Picked the Pocket of Purity. That is enough PP's to bring down any gathering.

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  33. The LSD and Poppers were part of the BDSM rituals. Byrne could easily get any substance you wanted.

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  34. Enough of the clumsy drug references and name drops. Acid is extremely dangerous, if you have specific information on use and supply please present such information to the Gardai where it can be followed up properly. Otherwise shut the flock up with the sheep-like bleats. Your need to keep hinting that you are in the know or were present only implicates yourself and limits the weight and trustworthiness of your words. All you are doing is leaving Pat likely to receive more Solicitors letters.

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  35. Pat investigate a current Armagh seminarian who has been sent to Rome for September.

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