Tuesday, 17 July 2018

MOTHER TERESA ORDER IN INDIAN CONFLICT

In India, the arrest of a nun in Ranchi for baby trafficking is bringing the entire order of Mother Teresa in the dock. But the governor of Calcutta accuses: the Hindu nationalists use the affair for their own interests




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An ugly local affair, which in Hindu nationalistic India risks turning into a general accusation against the nuns of Mother Teresa. For about ten days the Missionaries of Charity have been in the eye of the storm for a judicial affair that in Ranchi saw one of them end up behind bars, together with a lay collaborator, accused of trafficking in illegal adoptions.  

The events are said to have taken place in a house for single mothers that the nuns run in the capital of the State of Jharkhand, one of the 243 structures serving the poorest and the poor that the white-and-blue-sari sisters keep open every day throughout India. The judicial authorities have collected a complaint from an Indian couple who allegedly paid 120 thousand rupees (about 1500 euros) for having in adoption one of the single mothers’ children. According to the investigations, this was not an isolated incident in that structure. It should also be added that since 2015 the Missionaries of Charity - as a general policy - had stopped giving children for adoption in India because they do not accept of the New Delhi government’s guidelines that make it possible also for singles and couples of the same sex.  

On July 5, when news broke over the center of Ranchi and Sister Concilia, the mother house of the Missionaries of Charity, immediately released a very clear statement: “We are absolutely shocked by what has happened in one of our homes - the Superior Sister Mary Prema wrote - It should never have happened: it goes against our moral convictions. We are carefully looking into this matter. We will take all the necessary precautions to ensure that such an incident never happens again”.  

In the meantime, however, the Missionaries of Charity also have to deal with a series of actions implemented by the local government of Jharkhand which - from the specific case - seem to want to broaden the accusations to the work of the entire religious family founded by Mother Teresa. The Chief of Police has in fact asked the Central Government of New Delhi to freeze all the bank accounts of the Missionaries of Charity, in order to check the existence of violations in foreign financing. All this while the old theses of the English journalist Christopher Hitchens, who accused Mother Teresa of exploiting poverty in India, are back in vogue in Indian public opinion. While the RSS - the movement of Hindu nationalists, very close to Prime Minister Narendra Modi - has been asked to withdraw the Bharat Ratna, the most prestigious Indian honor from the founder of the Missionaries of Charity. It was awarded in 1980.  

The auxiliary bishop of Ranchi, Telesphore Bilung, pointed his finger at the local government, which, under the guidance of Hindu nationalists, last year also introduced the controversial anti-conversion laws in Jharkhand. “We have news of searches in different districts of the state - told the agency UcaNews - They are trying to prove that Christians are linked to illegal activities. Even the spokesperson of the Missionaries of Charity, Sunita Kumar, speaks of an attempt to “threaten and stifle financially” the religious order founded by Mother Teresa, “whose work in India since 1950 is before everyone’s eyes”.  


The approaching general elections in India in May 2019 are also playing a part in this story: the Hindu nationalists of the BJP, which governs with Modi, have been repeatedly accused in recent years of building their consensus through acts of hostility against minorities, which are becoming increasingly serious. And in this context, it is significant that Mamata Banerjee, governor of West Bengal, the State of Calcutta, has taken sides in defense of the Missionaries of Charity in these days: “Malicious attempts to malign their name. The sisters are being targeted. BJP want to spare no one. Highly condemnable. Let MOC continue to do their work for the poorest and the poor”.  

PAT SAYS:

There is much disagreement in India about this row involving the Missionaries of Charity.

Was the selling of this baby by one nun a one-off?

Or are there other cases?

If this was only one incident it is still very shocking.

We all thought that the selling of babies by nuns was something that happened in the 192- to 1960 era.

The fact that this has happened today in the 21st century is very shocking.

One thing has been proven - you cannot trust the RC Church, its priests or its nuns with children!

And I see that the MOC is also implementing a police forbidden by the Indian Government - refusing adopted children to single people and gay couples.

Why is it that the RC Church thinks that it can go against the laws of the land it is in?

These nuns would prefer a baby to languish in a very basic "orphanage" rather than have the adoring love of a single parent or two same-sex parents.

More than ever we need to get the RC Church OUT of schools, hospitals and orphanages.


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MOTHER TERESA - GOOD OR EVIL?


MOTHER TERESA - GOOD OR EVIL PART 2





Personally, I do not believe that Mother Teresa was worthy of the swift canonization she was granted.

She was a supporter of the ecclesiastical and political establishment - unlike Jesus Christ who was a critic and opponent of both the religious and political establishments of his day.

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PUBLIC RELEASE: 1-MAR-2013

UNIVERSITY OF MONTREAL STUDY OF MOTHER TERESA.

Mother Teresa: Anything but a saint...
Researchers dispell the myth of altruism and generosity surrounding Mother Teresa
UNIVERSITY OF MONTREAL

    
The myth of altruism and generosity surrounding Mother Teresa is dispelled in a paper by Serge Larivée and Genevieve Chenard of University of Montreal's Department of Psychoeducation and Carole Sénéchal of the University of Ottawa's Faculty of Education. The paper will be published in the March issue of the journal Studies in Religion/Sciences religieuses and is an analysis of the published writings about Mother Teresa. Like the journalist and author Christopher Hitchens, who is amply quoted in their analysis, the researchers conclude that her hallowed image--which does not stand up to analysis of the facts--was constructed, and that her beatification was orchestrated by an effective media relations campaign.

"While looking for documentation on the phenomenon of altruism for a seminar on ethics, one of us stumbled upon the life and work of one of Catholic Church's most celebrated woman and now part of our collective imagination--Mother Teresa--whose real name was Agnes Gonxha," says Professor Larivée, who led the research. "The description was so ecstatic that it piqued our curiosity and pushed us to research further."

As a result, the three researchers collected 502 documents on the life and work of Mother Teresa. After eliminating 195 duplicates, they consulted 287 documents to conduct their analysis, representing 96% of the literature on the founder of the Order of the Missionaries of Charity (OMC). Facts debunk the myth of Mother Teresa

In their article, Serge Larivée and his colleagues also cite a number of problems not take into account by the Vatican in Mother Teresa's beatification process, such as "her rather dubious way of caring for the sick, her questionable political contacts, her suspicious management of the enormous sums of money she received, and her overly dogmatic views regarding, in particular, abortion, contraception, and divorce."


The sick must suffer like Christ on the cross

At the time of her death, Mother Teresa had opened 517 missions welcoming the poor and sick in more than 100 countries. The missions have been described as "homes for the dying" by doctors visiting several of these establishments in Calcutta. Two-thirds of the people coming to these missions hoped to a find a doctor to treat them, while the other third lay dying without receiving appropriate care. The doctors observed a significant lack of hygiene, even unfit conditions, as well as a shortage of actual care, inadequate food, and no painkillers. The problem is not a lack of money--the Foundation created by Mother Teresa has raised hundreds of millions of dollars--but rather a particular conception of suffering and death: "There is something beautiful in seeing the poor accept their lot, to suffer it like Christ's Passion. The world gains much from their suffering," was her reply to criticism, cites the journalist Christopher Hitchens. Nevertheless, when Mother Teresa required palliative care, she received it in a modern American hospital.


Questionable politics and shadowy accounting

Mother Teresa was generous with her prayers but rather miserly with her foundation's millions when it came to humanity's suffering. During numerous floods in India or following the explosion of a pesticide plant in Bhopal, she offered numerous prayers and medallions of the Virgin Mary but no direct or monetary aid. On the other hand, she had no qualms about accepting the Legion of Honour and a grant from the Duvalier dictatorship in Haiti. Millions of dollars were transferred to the MCO's various bank accounts, but most of the accounts were kept secret, Larivée says. "Given the parsimonious management of Mother Theresa's works, one may ask where the millions of dollars for the poorest of the poor have gone?"


The grand media plan for holiness


Despite these disturbing facts, how did Mother Teresa succeed in building an image of holiness and infinite goodness? According to the three researchers, her meeting in London in 1968 with the BBC's Malcom Muggeridge, an anti-abortion journalist who shared her right-wing Catholic values, was crucial. Muggeridge decided to promote Teresa, who consequently discovered the power of mass media. In 1969, he made a eulogistic film of the missionary, promoting her by attributing to her the "first photographic miracle," when it should have been attributed to the new film stock being marketed by Kodak. Afterwards, Mother Teresa travelled throughout the world and received numerous awards, including the Nobel Peace Prize. In her acceptance speech, on the subject of Bosnian women who were raped by Serbs and now sought abortion, she said: "I feel the greatest destroyer of peace today is abortion, because it is a direct war, a direct killing--direct murder by the mother herself."

Following her death, the Vatican decided to waive the usual five-year waiting period to open the beatification process. The miracle attributed to Mother Theresa was the healing of a woman, Monica Besra, who had been suffering from intense abdominal pain. The woman testified that she was cured after a medallion blessed by Mother Theresa was placed on her abdomen. Her doctors thought otherwise: the ovarian cyst and the tuberculosis from which she suffered were healed by the drugs they had given her. The Vatican, nevertheless, concluded that it was a miracle. Mother Teresa's popularity was such that she had become untouchable for the population, which had already declared her a saint. "What could be better than beatification followed by canonization of this model to revitalize the Church and inspire the faithful especially at a time when churches are empty and the Roman authority is in decline?" Larivée and his colleagues ask.


Positive effect of the Mother Teresa myth


Despite Mother Teresa's dubious way of caring for the sick by glorifying their suffering instead of relieving it, Serge Larivée and his colleagues point out the positive effect of the Mother Teresa myth: "If the extraordinary image of Mother Teresa conveyed in the collective imagination has encouraged humanitarian initiatives that are genuinely engaged with those crushed by poverty, we can only rejoice. It is likely that she has inspired many humanitarian workers whose actions have truly relieved the suffering of the destitute and addressed the causes of poverty and isolation without being extolled by the media. Nevertheless, the media coverage of Mother Theresa could have been a little more rigorous.


About the study

The study was conducted by Serge Larivée, Department of psychoeducation, University of Montreal, Carole Sénéchal, Faculty of Education, University of Ottawa, and Geneviève Chénard, Department of psychoeducation, University of Montreal.
The printed version, available only in French, will be published in March 2013 in issue 42 of Studies in Religion / Sciences religieuses.
This study received no specific funding.
Professor Serge Larivée is available only for interviews in French. Professor Carole Sénéchal will be available for English interviews on Friday, March 1st.
*The University of Montreal is officially known as Université de Montréal.


    

90 comments:

  1. I'd say it was a business. MT loved misery.

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    1. Loved it? She made a moral virtue if it! And she delighted in beholding it, not in herself unsurprisingly, but in others. It is probably the main (perhaps the only) reason she spent on the poor and dying relatvely little of the vast donations she received.

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  2. Gay people make unsuitable parents.

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    1. Their relationships are unstable and promiscuous. The gays asked that adultery be excluded as grounds for divorce in same sex "marriages" as they knew that very few gay "marriages" would pass that test. Interestingly, adultery remains grounds for divorce in real marriages.

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    2. Hello Jim Wells DUP

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    3. Gays are no more promiscuous than heterosexuals gays are just more honest and open about their sex lives

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    4. You're obviously not gay, 20:17 if you believe that gays are no more promiscuous than straights.

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    5. 21.53 sorry but I'm very gay and in a monogamous relationship over 10 years . There is a common misconception about gay men especially being promiscuous . A good lot of the men who use gay dating/sex sites are married men . Cottaging/toilet sex is almost solely married men . Then we have swingers , dogging , wife swapping bdsm and the latest craze furries all mostly heterosexual activities . I'm not suggesting that gay people don't have casual sex because they do they happen to be more open and honest about it but to say they are more promiscuous than heterosexuals is unfair and wrong . Ask a straight man if he masterbates and he will say no never . We all know he's lying but ask a gay man and he will say yes several times a week . It's the same with casual promiscuous sex they do it we know they do it but no one will admit to it . Yet gum clinics are full abortion is rife and hiv among heterosexuals is on the rise

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  3. Why do you repeat the same story again after 11 days? Is it very slow on news today. The same comments will be made yet again on the same subject. The blog has become very tired and tedious Bishop Buckley.

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    1. The last time I wrote was about ONE nun selling a baby.

      Now it appears to have happened more than once.

      FOR INSTANCE

      One man in Belgium is saying that his parents bought him from the Sisters of Charity for $100,000.

      Of course many "Good catholics" will want to turn a blind eye.

      AND Why read a tired and tedious blog?

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    2. The Catholic Herald has MT as its lead story today.

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    3. @9.20
      Pity about ya. You could apply for a refund for today's edition.

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  4. You have forgot the Kildare appointments then maybe no gossip in them https://www.kandle.ie/diocesan-appointments-2018/ How about the Youth Director Father Frank Hannigan who has resigned from Active Ministry at lease he will not be a burden on the diocese.

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  5. The appointments are as follows:

    Fr. Tom Lalor PP Leighlin to retire and will assist in K&L South Deanery Area

    Fr. Frank McNamara PE CC Mountmellick to retire

    Fr. Pat Hennessy PP Ballyfin to become PP Leighlin

    Fr. Gerard Breen PP Balyna to become PP Stradbally

    Fr. Joe Brophy CC Mountrath to become PP Ballyfin & Mountrath

    Fr. Eddie Kavanagh CC Allen to become PP Balyna

    Fr. Sean Maher PP Stradbally to join the Naas/Sallins/Two-Mile-House Team

    Fr. Brian Kavanagh to become CC Allen & continue his work with the National Marriage Appeals Tribunal in Maynooth

    Fr. Joe O’Neill CC Naas to go on a one-year sabbatical to the Diocese of Los Angeles

    Fr. Tadeusz Durajczyk SVD CC Newbridge is returning to his Order

    Fr. Eugen Dragas Tamas to become CC

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    1. CONTINUED

      Fr. P.J. Fitzgerald SPS to become CC Mountrath

      The new appointments are all to come into effect on August 1st 2018.

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    2. Kildare and Leighlin is losing CCs in parishes eg in Allen and in Mountmellick yet it can send a CC away to LA on holiday for a year. Utter madness.

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  6. +Pat, Thank you for keeping us updated on the MT issue. Some claim she is a Saint. Some say she was fundamentalist operator. There are certainly questions to be asked and answered about her money, her relationships with despots and the was she treated her own nuns.lets have the truth out in the open.

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    1. Well, you certainly won't get "the truth" here.!

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    2. No? You will get it from the Catholic Press Office :-)

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    3. What a waste of time, space and money the CCO is and it’s mouthpiece Long paid thousands to talk nonsense.

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  7. FATHER GATES - MAGHERAFELT

    Fr Gates update: Firstly, if you don’t like the blog then why read it?


    Fr Gates has been on leave for a number of weeks now and has turned up only periodically to give the impression he is still in charge. It’s his well liked Curate Fr Brannigan who has been running the parish for weeks now with only a few days break away in Spain mid week. Fr Gates’ supporters who are few in number, mainly female bingo groupies, have been misleading people with the fiction that Fr Gates will be staying as PP of Magherafelt. This is untrue. Fr Gates has taken leave because he is fed up and depressed about coverage on this blog. This is his usual pattern of behaviour when he doesn’t get his own way. Armagh’s new appointments are imminent after you leaked the last ones Pat on this blog, Eamon Martin was said to be raging over it. Incidentally Eamon Martin will be in Magherafelt on Saturday evening during John Gates’ absence to address the parishioners, let’s hope he will announce a new PP.

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    1. It will be interesting to see if Eamon has the courage to address the on going issues in Magherafelt.

      The parish badly needs a new, kinder, non bullying PP.

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    2. Amy Martin wants to beat you to it this time Pat by getting to Magherafelt before you to announce new PP. He's not putting it on paper or in print this time in case you leak it again lol.

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    3. Can’t believe I’m reading yet again about this Gates person. Has the Archbishop of Armagh not sorted this out yet. I heard after a recent Armagh Clergy gathering that not many priests had much time for Eamon Martin. If morale is so low how can this man lead that diocese for years to come.

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    4. 16.04 What Clergy gathering would that be or is this fake news? Eamon is doing a good job.

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    5. Hi Wounded Healer.

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    6. 16.28 It was a Hotel gathering but not in Armagh. You know the venue so why ask?

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    7. Manor House Enniskillen?

      That's a favourite of The Wounded Healer and Any.

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    8. Yes Pat, correct. How did you know lol?

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    9. Pat has friends in many places :-)

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    10. 16.28. Eamon's maybe having a similar gathering like he had in lourdes dancing with old ladies. He did a good job there. That wasn't fake news. So nothing surprises us what his next ambition would be. Maybe he is replacing Gates with MC Eniffe.

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    11. What I find strange about Magherafelt is that it doesn’t deserve a bully priest. It has produced many fine priests of its own over the years who have manners, are respectful and fine men. I think of the Henry Brothers, the Larkin Brothers and many others. The parish deserves much much better when we think of previous PP’s, Quinn, McKeown, O’Byrne. Armagh and it’s Bishop - get your finger out.

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    12. Unfortunately Magherafelt had to endure a bully. Hitler Gates. Coalisland is welcomed to embrace him back.


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    13. Oh dear Pat, there you go again. Ara Coeli want to know who told you about the Arch going to South Derry on Saturday. Closely guarded secret but Buckley has OUTED the plans. Who is the major mole? Is someone undermining Bogside Eamon.

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    14. You should leave John Gates alone as you’ve made him ill.

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  8. MourneManMichael18 July 2018 at 11:07

    If it emerges that Theresa was not worthy of her Sept 2017 canonisation, is there such a ceremony as "decanonisation"?
    How would that affect Frankie's 'Papal infallibility': or maybe canonisation isn't a matter of 'faith and morals'?
    And would decanonisation cause her to be chucked out of heaven for a purgatorial spell?
    Or maybe she's not there anyway, and been held for a while in limbo while St Peter waits for the RC establishment to make up its mind?
    Like much of RC beliefs: "It's a mystery".

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    1. Hey MMM it's Teresa not Theresa ffs.

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    2. Some ridiculous nonsense being spouted today...

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    3. Ridiculous nonsense spouted? Might be so, but no answers or suggestions yet from RC theological experts to MMM's questions.

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  9. I watched the above videos about Mother Theresa and her order. I wish I could say that I was shocked by her reported comment that the poor should accept their lot in life, i.e. their poverty, and the inevitable hardship and suffering it brings.

    Her words remind me of the following lines from a 19th century hymn:

    'The rich man in his catle
    The poor man at his gate
    He made them high or lowly
    And ORDERED their estate.'

    This crone embraced poverty and suffering...provided both were in others, not in herself.

    God does not order the poor to be poor, and the suffering to suffer. This sick and twisted idea came from Christian capiralists and their backers, including the institutional Roman Catholic Church. And Mother Theresa was nothing if not a capitalist. She was AWASH with cash (much of it stolen) and predictably spent precious little of it on the poor.

    I hope that she, and her papal patron, JPII, got what they TRULY deserved after death. (Psst! For the sycophantic, clerical-worshipping Catholics who post here, it wasn't sainthood.😆)

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    1. MC at 11:15

      Yes Magna it would remind you of an 19th century "Protestant Hymn" you wouldn't know a "Catholic Hymn". It was "The rich man in his castle" not "The rich man in his catle". For an ex-teacher who is forever giving out to people about spelling and punctuation under your Blog Title "Granny Grammar" your own spelling and punctuation is atrocious.
      Did you pass the Leaving Cert'.?

      Just askin', like.

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    2. You're such a moron MC. It's Teresa. ��

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    3. Patsy at 13:48

      Come off it Patsy, that's just the point your pal Poly would make. You're supposed to be impartial.

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    4. But it is Silly.

      Many people use Theresa and Teresa interchangeably.

      Its irrelevant to MOT's selling babies for 1500 rupees and $100,000.

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    5. Anglican curate18 July 2018 at 15:50

      Magna has left out important punctuation in that hymn. The commas change the meaning. The correct version is:

      "... he made them, high or lowly, and ordered their estate."

      Ordered in the sense of well-ordered and not as a synonym for commanded.

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    6. AC, the terms mean the same, plonker?

      (Just insultin', like.😆)

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    7. 13:34

      When quoting fewer (you would probably have stated 'less') than sixty words, single quotation marks should be used instead of double ones.

      Did you pass the Inter Cert?

      (Just wonderin', like.😆)

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    8. MC at 19:09

      Hi! Granny Grammar, did that wee correction make you feel better, and more important?

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  10. A Glasgow priest, Fr Mark "Mo" Morris, has held a service to atone for the "gross offence" of Pride Glasgow. Bit ironic considering all the three-letter men in the priesthood.

    http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/16359297.glasgow-caledonian-university-chaplain-holds-mass-for-gross-offence-of-pride/

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    1. The Catholic priest at the centre of the shocking scandal has been removed as a university chaplain after he held a service to atone for the "gross offence" of a Gay Pride event.

      Glasgow Caledonian University's principal Pamela Gillies said: "Following due consultation, Father Mark Morris will not return to his chaplaincy role at the university in September.

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    2. Morris is a tarddy. He recently hosted Burke for one of his dressy up events in Glasgow. I’m surprised at the very softly spoken Morris getting involved in something like this. He always struck me as a man who was musical

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    3. It's just an ex-polytechnic so it doesn't matter.

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    4. A music lover it seems. Like KOB.

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    5. Will Fr Mo now write a book like Fr Despard? They seem like two of a kind, if you ask me, +Pat.

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    6. Father Morris is Good Holy Priest, Glasgow is lucky to have him. Because that unfortunate Archdiocese has more than it's fair share of priests who are pure DROSS!

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  11. 14.17 Is it a case that the lady doth protests too much? What an idiotic thing to do. I thought the Church tells us not to discriminate against gay people.

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    1. Mo'Lady protests too much!

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    2. Mo is a fence sitter so much trad so much modern but he loves the frills, lace and fiddle back.

      Him and his sub Father Dunn who is on long term sabbatical from the Archdiocese.

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    3. Father Mo is a total hypocrite. Have you seen the picture of him and Cardinal Biddy Burke dressed up in birettas. Camp or what. Google image pic.

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    4. Mo got the boot from the university. Utter fool

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    5. Anonymous at 17:43

      It must be some demented auld "Camp Queen" who thinks wearing a Biretta and proper vestments can be described like that. She's probably can't remember because of her senility that, that's what all clergy wore before they started wearing golf jumpers, anoraks and all the crap they wear now!

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    6. My aunt lives in Fr Mo Morris parish in Springburn. She says he always struck her as a man who would go into the parochial house after mass, put on a pinafore and bake nice succulent scones.

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    7. Hate to agree with Mc @ 20.49 but he’s right about fool Bell whatever his face is called

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    8. Mad Magna at 19:11

      Polly you're such a DOG! always Barking!!!

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    9. Anonymous at 21:07

      Father Morris is a good Holy Priest, Glasgow is lucky to have him.


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  12. Clogher changes due Mid-August!! McGuinness will announce moves and some Clergy are shitting themselves at the prospect of moving. Then again as a Clogher Priest said yesterday on the blog there are those who will refuse to move and will retire if they are made move. Administrators and Bishops of Dioceses can’t push priests around anymore in Ireland, they don’t have the luxury of the numbers of clergy anymore. Good.

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    1. Very true.

      Look how some of us were dealt with 30+ years ago when they had an overflow.

      The Holy Spirit is giving them their answer now and our great friend KARMA is touring every diocese :-)

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    2. KARMA HAS NO MENU. YOU GET FED WHAT YOU DESERVE.

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    3. Pat is Karma on the Menu for Magherafelt?

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    4. As per usual in Clogher, PPs who officially retire will stay on in the parochial house, driving from the back seat and being treated as if still the PP and the new nominal PP moves into what had been the curate's house. It's a farce.

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    5. Yes, lets move men in their late 70's to a new town where they know nobody and have to pack and unpack everything. Such a dignified action.

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    6. Hammered banger Langer 20.33 You have shown disdain for clergy on the blog recently because you got the boot from Seminary. Please spare us your false and very dubious pity for them now. Decide which side of the fence you are on and which side of the argument. 20.00 has a very valid point to make and a retired priests age should not be the determining factor as to him living on in the PP’s house.

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    7. @21.10
      1. You make wrong assumptions about me.
      2. 20.00 makes a valid point and I made a valid point back on topic. That is called responding to the point.
      3. As usual you attack the man not the topic because you cannot make a relevant response to my point.
      4. I know where I stand; and where I stand on this topic is to respect the elderly rather than forcibly eject them from their homes. A priest has a right to be housed, not a right to pick the house he wants. If that means a new PP gets to live in what was once a CC's house what does that really matter.
      5. Because I dislike the conduct of the institutional church it does not mean I have to be a bigot who hates all things Catholic; so don't project your weaknesses on me.

      It takes a langer to know a langer, and you're a prize langer!

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  13. Pat
    who sexually abused you at the age of 6. Did you tell anyone .Did you ever seek professional help

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  14. Please, Magna, do another one of your little sermons about love. They are so moving and straight from the heart.

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  15. By the way, the Manor House is not in Enniskillen... We don't want any backwoodsmen getting lost on their way out to us!

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  16. That priest in Glasgow should be saying masses for two of his own colleagues who were both in a gay club in Barcelona recently. One was from Glasgow the other from paisley. They sure know how to snog. Holy smoke!

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  17. +Pat, I'm getting bored with all this Mother Teereeza rubbish. Can we not get back to basics (Mo'nooth) soon?

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    1. Maynooth is shut for the summer, the lads are away. Pat cannot make bricks out of straw. Only a few more weeks until they are back on campus and ready for action. At that point onwards will fresh hot news emerge.

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  18. +Pat, will you be issuing a public statement on Fr Mo?

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  19. In response to 16:19 there's no Clogher changes due in mid August because there's no changes! Joe Mc Guinness has decided not to confront the grumpy old men in several parishes who are refusing to retire even though they are all over 75. Mc Guinness has decided to further insult younger men this year by simply ignoring them and leaving the old guys in situ. A bloody farce.

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    1. You will eat every last word of that trash you just posted.

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  20. MourneManMichael20 July 2018 at 11:29

    LL@08:45: Very true! Not a word from the theological pundits who regularly comment on this site arguing about all manner of scriptural or religious minutiae. Yet they are silenced when perfectly reasonable questions going to the heart of the RC Church's continuing charade are posed. This, my further comment, may provoke some response. It is to be hoped they are directed to the questions rather than the customary ad hominem retorts. MMM

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