Sunday, 29 July 2018

THE ARMAGH SAGA

MEATH APPOINTMENTS

The following appointments in the Diocese of Meath have been announced: 
Fr Seamus Houlihan is appointed Parish Priest of Kilcormac
Fr Liam Malone is appointed Parish Priest of Nobber and Kilbeg
Fr Richard Matthews is appointed Parish Priest of Slane
Fr Padraig McMahon is appointed Parish Priest of Athboy and Vicar Forane
Fr Joseph Campbell is appointed Curate in Mullingar and Diocesan Secretary
Fr Paul Crosbie is appointed Administrator in Mullingar

Who was very merry and tri na cheile at a recent wedding reception?



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A SOURCE HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE BLOG AND CLAIMED THAT THERE ARE TWO INVESTIGATIONS UNDERWAY IN THE CONTEXT OF THE ARCHDIOCESE OF ARMAGH.

One investigation is being undertaken by Eamon Martin after he was approached by a journalistic investigative team.

The other investigation is being undertaken by the journalistic team itself and has been ongoing for some months.

This team, it is claimed, has already interviewed Eamon Martin and are due to interview him soon again.

They claim that they have already interviewed some priests and senior and influential lay people.

They have promised me some more information soon.

I will bring it to you when I get it.

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SEPARATE ISSUE

The above investigations are totally separate from a more serious case into a senior priest in the context of safeguarding and historical matters.

I'm reliably told from inside Armagh that Eamon is in very bad form these days as he waits for several bombs to explode.

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SOME ARMAGH PICTURES





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FROM OUTSIDE IRELAND




LA CROIX INTERNATIONAL


Change the clerical culture

Why Is predatory behavior by priests permitted?

Emerging details about the scope and duration of Cardinal Theodore McCarrick’s sexually abusive behavior once more underscore the fact that an institutional sickness afflicts the Catholic Church.
A predator priest can ascend to princely rank only if the clerical culture around him enables those who are complicit by their silence and failure to act.
The behavior of “Uncle Ted,” as the cardinal insisted he be called by his preferred victims, was something of an open secret at elite levels of the church.
As the New YorkTimes noted, multiple reports about McCarrick’s sexual encounters with seminary students were made between 1994 and 2008—to American bishops, to the pope’s representative in Washington, and even to Pope Benedict XVI.
Two dioceses secretly made settlement payments to alleged victims.
This didn’t slow a swift rise: McCarrick became a global ambassador dispatched to conflict zones, a prolific fundraiser, and the honoree of numerous Catholic institutions eager to present him with awards. He even played a prominent role as a spokesperson for the church’s “zero-tolerance” policy on sexual abuse.
The causes of clerical abuse are complex and multilayered. But that hasn’t stopped some Catholic conservatives and others on the right from zeroing in on a predictable target: gay priests.
As First Things senior editor Matthew Schmitz recently tweeted: “It will be impossible to address sexual abuse in the Church if bishops and priests do not clearly affirm the Church’s teaching on sex, including same-sex activity. Treating affirmations of that teaching as uncivil, unhelpful, or distracting risks making things worse.”
And then there was this from Matt Walsh (@MattWalshBlog): “The pedophile scandal in the Catholic Church is not a pedophile scandal. The vast majority of victims are post-pubescent teens and young men. The real problem in the Church that everyone sees and few will say out loud: gay priests.”
This is an agenda in search of facts. A 300-page report, prepared by researchers at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice at the request of the U.S. bishops seven years ago, found no statistical evidence that gay priests were more likely to abuse minors.
What’s more, researchers found that the uptick in the number of gay priests from the late 1970s corresponded with “a decreased incidence of abuse-not an increased incidence of abuse.”
The disproportionate number of adolescent male victims, according to the report, was linked to opportunity, not to preference or pathology.
A witch-hunt mentality demonizes the vast majority of celibate gay men who are faithful to their vows, serve the church, and are as horrified as anyone at the abuses committed.
The need to reject stereotypes and call out homophobia doesn’t mean that all discussion about homosexuality in the priesthood is off the table. As veteran Vatican observer Robert Mickens recently argued in the Washington Post, the closet is part of the problem:
There is no denying that homosexuality is a key component to the clergy sex abuse (and now sexual harassment) crisis. With such a high percentage of priests with a homosexual orientation, this should not be surprising.
But let me be very clear: psychologically healthy gay men do not rape boys or force themselves on other men over whom they wield some measure of power or authority. However, we are not talking about men who are psychosexually mature.
And yet the bishops and officials at the Vatican refuse to acknowledge this. Rather, they are perpetuating the problem, and even making it worse, with policies that actually punish seminarians and priests who seek to deal openly, honestly and healthily with their sexual orientation.
If the church removed all gay priests from ministry today, it would suffer for that loss. Nor would it bring an end to the abuse crisis.
The problem is with those bishops, and others with influence in the church, who at best are asleep at the wheel and at worst willing to excuse predatory behavior.
Boston Cardinal Sean O’Malley this week acknowledged a “major gap” in procedures for how the church deals with a bishop or cardinal accused of abuse, and called for specific new steps.
“Failure to take these actions will threaten and endanger the already weakened moral authority of the Church and can destroy the trust required for the Church to minister to Catholics and have a meaningful role in the wider civil society,” he said.
There were plenty of red flags about McCarrick, more than enough to stop his ascent into the College of Cardinals. That it was nevertheless allowed to proceed is an institutional failure on a massive scale. No scapegoating will make this mess go away.
And no single step — ending celibacy requirements or allowing priest to marry — will serve as a panacea.
The significant spike in abuse cases in the 1960s and 1970s, the John Jay researchers found, had much to do with psychologically unhealthy priests who were not properly screened, and who became clergy at a time when seminary education lacked a focus on psychological-emotional development.
Improved seminary training and education in the 1980s, according to the report, contributed to a “sharp and sustained decline” in abuse cases since then.
This suggests the need for continued, practical work on this front. More important is changing a clerical culture that prizes secrecy and loyalty over truth and transparency.
That will be tedious, challenging and essential work. In the ongoing wake of the McCarrick scandal, it’s time to take up that task with greater urgency than ever.
John Gehring is Catholic program director at Faith in Public Life, an advocacy group in Washington, and a former associate director for media relations at the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. He is author of The Francis Effect: A Radical Pope’s Challenge to the American Catholic Church (Rowman & Littlefield, 2015) and a contributing editor to Commonweal.



220 comments:

  1. There must be some significance in showing specific pictures of Armagh priests. We shall wait and see.

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    1. I only recognise one; the notorious Rory Coyle we enjoyed reading about a couple of years ago. I don’t know who the other Mo’s are.

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  2. On the subject of (Cardinal) McCarrick / Uncle Ted - two observations:

    1. Surely senior people in the Church knew about his proclivities / behaviour ? How in God's name did he continue to be advanced to very senior positions ? The various Papal Nuncios in the US should be held accountable for their lack of intelligence, or failure to act on what they knew. Questions should have been asked. Why were they not asked ? Why was he advanced ? I don't buy the theory that he had / has dirt on people. I just think the senior people in the Church are easily fooled. They just do not believe / understand / appreciate how deceptive and convincing are abusers, and they are taken in. McCormick was very competent. plausible and convincing. But, they should have done their homework before advancing him. And, he, McCarrick, should not have allowed himself to be advanced. I guess he is in denial and has been for decades. There are serious questions to be asked about the Church's processes for looking in to personnel issues when advancing people to senior positions.

    2. In my country, even at his advanced age, McCarrick would be facing the full rigour of the law for abusive actions with underage minors. There is no statute of limitations. Just a year or so ago, a 100 year old man was imprisoned for 7 years for crimes committed 60 years ago. His 100th birthday appeared in the local press and people in their 60s remembered what he had done to them when he was younger, the police took on the case, and he was tried and found guilty. He will no doubt die in prison. But the message is clear: there is no statute of limitations on horrendous abusive behavior and crimes committed even decades ago. McCormick should think himself fortunate that the will spend out his days in a comfortable place of prayer and penance, rather than in a prison, which he would be doing if he lived in my country.

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    1. Very good points, MMM.

      I can't disagree with any of them.

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  3. Cardinal Farrell is a liar. It can be proven. Others know too...
    He knew about Mc C of Washington....they all did.....

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  4. And he doesn't like women speaking in Vatican space !!!!!lol

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  5. Watch his blinks in his denials and then watch Bill Clinton deny Monica L.!!!
    Blinking gives him away!!

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  6. Farrell like so many of them is a Charleton.

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    1. Bill, the word is “charlatan”. Stop letting yourself down. You are better educated than that!

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    2. Think you mean a charlatan Bill: and I agree.

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  7. As for Dermot Martin......well now ......

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    1. Now Bill, you are teasing us.

      But I know all about Dermot Martin.

      I have met his tailor.

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    2. Young Nathan Carter told this week's Sunday World that he'd found Dermo to be very nice when they met to discuss the Frankfest.

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  8. These are the men along with other " Prelates" on this island this month talking and discussing " Family".
    Its an insult to us all.

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    1. The thoughts of this World Meeting of Families, Bill, really turns my stomach.

      I’m not going and I’m not - and haven’t been - promoting it.

      A display of nauseating hypocrisy from a serried array of foul hypocrites - some of whom are themselves compromised - and others presiding over a fallen Church.

      It’s revolting. And their cheerleaders. They can all go to Hell.

      And if Eamon Martin thinks he’s going to get away with covering up abuse at this stage of proceedings then he is mentally ill.

      He could end up the second Archbishop of Armagh banged up in jail and his incarceration will not end in glorious martyrdom.

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    2. Eamon Martin must have been mentally ill to accept the See of Armagh!Then again the prospect of a certain red piece of material in the future got his juices flowing and ultimately got the better of his secretive ambitious streak. Anyhow, the poor dear is looking the worse for it now.

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    3. The Count you sound like a right bitchy madam. Are you a Priest? God help is if you are.

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    4. I am just a mere mortal dear, like your good self.

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  9. A proper stunt pulled on us all in their game of charades.

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  10. O Caoimh , retract and apologise for your inventive about me, otherwise, I shall get very factual about you. Claro ?

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    1. Claro means “clear”. Bill ignore them. Don’t rise to their bait. It says more about them anyhow. Stick to the matter at hand and take care of yourself also.

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    2. I wish you would Bill,Veritas must prevail.

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  11. Indeed. Pat is teasing us. That said he must be sure of his ground. The word cesspit seems to spring to mind.

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  12. So (according to John Gehring) 'an institutional sickness afflicts the Catholic Church'.

    I agree. It's called 'the clergy'. πŸ˜†

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  13. Why are you showing these Priests some of them maybe innocent.

    Sadly Archbishop Eamon is under pressure thanks to Sean Brady who should have resigned however + Eamon will sort all and hopefully as he said cleanse Ireland.

    + Eamon is going nowhere he has the backing of the Holy See to sort it all the mess he inherited and the same will happen to the New Bishop Elect Tom and the future Archbishop of Dublin.

    CLERGY and Seminarians your number is up the Bishops and the Laity is NOT going to put up with Clergy and Seminarians who do not live a chaste life so it is time to go or YOU will be going disgracefully.

    The Priesthood is NOT for you if you want a sexual life.

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    1. I never said that anyone was either guilty or innocent.

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    2. 08:05 (From Scotland again?)

      'The Priesthood (sic) is NOT for you if you want a sexual life.'

      Really? I should have thought the reverse.πŸ˜†

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    3. 10.10 We used to have a man at work (lovely person) who always wore a dress on dress down day. He had a large tattoo on the top of his arm of the Virgin Mary. He always said he was in the wrong body. He was well liked by everyone in the office. I always think of him when I read this blog.

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  14. Dunno about Farrell but if thin sly seeet talking ego maniac Dolan is anything to go by then the American Church is up shit creek. I was at mass in St Pats in New York and in processes Dolan surrounded by body guards to say mass. It was all “ look at me. Look at Timmy. Ain’t I the biggest dogs bollox you’ve ever seen”
    That man is a complete buffoon and all the oul dolls fawn around him. As MC says often. Baasaaa

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    1. You are right.

      Dolan is a fake.

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    2. An Irishman called Tim will be just like Timmy Dolan when he gets his pointy hat. The egotism and narcissism of these men is COLOSSAL!

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  15. Developments coming soon from Cookstown, Loughgall, Dundalk and Kerry. Have you ever heard the saying ‘smoke them out of the burrows’ ???

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    1. It looks like the private knowledge of the Armagh clerical folk is soon to become public knowledge. Oops

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    2. Pats leaked Armagh Clergy move list featured both Loughgall and Dundalk. Loughgall was later left out of the equation by Eamon - I wonder!! The foreign CC in Armagh parish also featured but the other clergy there didn't get their own way of ousting him - yet!

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  16. Not a minute before time. Let’s the sheep see the real shepherds

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  17. Wonderful news about a new saga about to unfold. I hope it involves a muscle-daddy, or two. We know what they're like for their Silverdaddies.

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    1. 10.17 You are obviously not getting enough from your porn channels if you are wanting muscle Mary sagas on the blog. How sad is your life.

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  18. +Pat, I never cease to be amazed at how you continue to keep digging and always find the "gold". You have the nose of a bloodhound and the courage of a lion. The hierarchy were mad to put you outside the tent. They should have kept you in so that you would be in the tent pissing out, rather than outside the tent pissing in. I'm afraid the day old Daly sacked you he made a whip to beat his and his successors backs. What a great mess! PP.

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  19. If you are basically honest, you can spot a fraud a mile away

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  20. BREAKING NEWS - Mulvihill still is taking over the blog: Replacing Magna. What a coup!!

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    1. Bill is doing a good job. Like the Old Testament prophets who were never perfect, he is speaking the truth and bishoos and priests are threatened by his vast knowledge of what is, and has been, going on.

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    2. Anonymous at 10:39

      I would normally have rejoiced at that news. However "Silly Billy" is as bad as the dreaded Polly!
      How this "priest" has not been suspended A Divinis by his Ordinary I do not know. He has clearly lost the plot, and needs help. Virgo Potens,ora pro nobis

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    3. Still absolutely, bloody barking.πŸ˜†

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  21. what about the disgraced cleric who blackmails ?

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  22. It is only the people on here who think there is a crisis in every Dioceses in Ireland.

    As any of the current Archbishops and Bishops and they will inform you there are NO crisis in any of Irelands Dioceses.

    Ireland is getting set for the World Stage as the Holy Father arrives soon and what an event it will b3.

    So come up start talking up the Good Bishops and Clergy.

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    1. There are none so blind as those who do not wish to see.

      There are crises in every Irish diocese.

      Some Irish bishops have slept with priests, seminarians and lay men.

      Others have been robbed by rent boys.

      I know the names and other details.

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    2. If you knew the names @10.58 Pat and other details you would have blurted it out by now. You can't hold your own piss for 5 mins.

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    3. I'm afraid you do t know me very well.

      There are thing I say straight away.

      And there are things I sit on till the time is right.

      "Mary treasured all these things and pondered them in her heart"

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    4. Whatever about your “knowledge”, Pat and your “sitting on it” - comparison with Our Lady treasuring and pondering what she treasured and pondered is actually perverse and bordering on blasphemy. You should delete that analogy. It is unnecessary in any case and totally inappropriate.

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    5. Surely you realised that I was saying that with a certain smile?

      We do not know what St. Mary thought or did with her knowledge.

      She was not the gaudy statue that people have turned her into.

      She was not passive. Im quite certain that there was something of the lionness in her.

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    6. She was contemplating her Son. She wasn’t treasuring and pondering clerical gossip and scandals.

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    7. St Mary was contemplating everything.

      God does not choose wimps for his special asignments.

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    8. 12.00: I agree with you. What arrogance of Pat to compare himself to Mary. Insulting and delusional to even consider a resemblance. Mary pondered the things of God, the things of Jesus, her Son, the things of the Spirit. She did not abuse, threaten, hurt, ruin, defame others or encourage hatred. She acted out of love, fidelity to God, standing by Jesus all through his tortures, trials and sufferings. She stood at the cross. Pat digs graves and delights in the fall and demise of others. I'm afraid Pat - you are blind.

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    9. Pat is not a grave digger.

      He actually opens "graves" and sepulchres especially whited ones) to let the smell and the rot out.

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    10. Bp Pat, can we safely assume the new saga will be entirely gay orientated?

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    11. MourneManMichael30 July 2018 at 13:26

      Anon @ 12:34. I'm aware of how little we know of Mary from the gospels. The bald facts are there but little beyond those or concerning her thoughts. I hope your comments are not just speculative and aspirational like much other RC belief? Perhaps you could consider sharing your knowledge and its basis? MMM on THE ARMAGH SAGA
      in response to It is only the people on here who think there is a crisis in every Dioceses in Ireland. As any of the current Archbishops and Bishops and they

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    12. 12.48 Has your porn channel subscription still expired.

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    13. Our Lady is no gaudy statue and certainly not passive. But for you to think of yourself in her terms is truly delusional and indicative of your own narcissism and colossal ego. Such pride will truly come to a spectacular fall.

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    14. Pat Buckley at 10:58, have you told them that you know their names? Have you told them to resign? Why are they not gone - knowing that you know about them?

      Or maybe your information is false and they are unconcerned because they know that you can’t/won’t publish it - because, if you did, it would be the rock upon which you perish?

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    15. 12.38: Yes, Pat, you dig graves metaphorically, so that you delight in the downfall of others. You are morally arrogant and delusional. There is no CHRIST in you. None. There is though, lots of satanic darkness of vindictiveness, hatred and vengance....

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    16. Father. Take it easy. You will have a heart attack.

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    17. 14.30: Pat, you should listen to the other quiet prophets who work faithfully and who live faithful lives. You, on the other hand thrive on gossip, hearsay and innuendo. I find if you truly trust Our Blessed Lady, she will keep you close to her Son. You should try it! And yes, you get some weird, psychological twist out of other people's flaws and sins. That is a perversion in itself.

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  23. The Count at 11:07

    Eamon Martin was foolish to take Armagh.

    Several others were asked to take it before he was asked.

    Apart from everything else, his musical activities in Maynooth will come back to haunt him.

    I have the details.

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    1. A music lover!

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    2. Its known locally among some people and I'd be very surprised if EM didn't know because most of his clergy do. Fr X left C'Town soon after it. He can't keep it in his trousers.

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    3. Who were the clerics who turned Armagh done before Eamon was offered it? If true please name names

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  24. Eamon Martin plans to bring Rory Coyle back and put him in a parish.

    I have this from a senior Armagh cleric.

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    1. That's nice, Clogherhead will be pleased.

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  25. Pat the country knows Mark and Garrett. Where have you been?

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    1. Its not really about individuals.

      Its about a subculture that has overtaken the institution.

      Its also about those at "the top" who are so badly compromised.

      This all leads to the undermining of the church and the priesthood.

      Its a very serious situation.

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  26. MourneManMichael30 July 2018 at 11:59

    With respect PP at 10:18, your comment's main inference is that it was a big mistake to put Pat in a position to reveal, in your words, "the great mess." There's little condemnation in your comment on the origins and nature of that great mess, and how it could have been avoided and can be remedied. Any comments? MMM

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  27. It can be remedied easily MMM and few have attempted it behind the scenes but that may not always have been apparent. Pat would need to take some simple steps but I'm not sure he would be prepared or willing to do so. Maybe we will give him the benefit of the doubt. The only stumbling block may be his present living arrangements. His orders are valid as Bishop but illicit. There is always opportunities to change but there must be a willingness and honesty to do so.

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    1. Dear Friend,

      I am sincerely interested to hear from you about what simple steps I should take.

      I would find your suggestions interesting and maybe challenging.

      Pat

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    2. I will email you with authentic email address. I don't want people pretending to be me on the blog and suggesting all sorts of false things.

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  28. Eamon Martin plans to bring Rory Coyle back and put him in a parish.

    He plans to send one of his seminarians to Rome and as soon as he arrives through the college gates he will be greeted with the traditional "Hi Brendan"

    (An STD) I have this from a senior Armagh cleric.

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    1. I presume you mean STD as an academic degree?

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  29. They have GUM clinics in Rome.

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    1. I didn't know Brendan had dental issues.

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  30. Fatger Xxxxx Xxxx car crashed a marriage in Cookstown! Sleeping with a man! Scandalous! This man is not suited to the priesthood.

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    1. I'm sorry to hear that.

      I think you are saying that he took someone's husband to bed?

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    2. No, Wilson is not married, his testosterone levels are too low.

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  31. The present PP who swaggers round Cookstown knew all about the priest 12.40 and the married man in bed together.

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  32. Ah well people do get lonely.

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  33. They do.

    Is it right for a priest to take a parishioner and someone's husband to bed?

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  34. Definately not.

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  35. Pat. We don't know the half of what's going on.

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    1. We only know 3% of whats going on.

      It is enough to totally wipe out the Irish church.

      The archbishops and bishops are up to their neck in it

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  36. Armagh is the worst diocese in Ireland for clergy sexual carry on.

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  37. Ohhh bring it on, I want to hear more.

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  38. *** Clerical Changes 2018 ***

    The Bishop of Larne has announced the following clerical changes effective from September 1st 2018.

    Very. Rev Canon Matt Hep to retire

    Old Joe Lollard to retire

    Mourne Man Michael to retire

    Rev. Sean Page to be incardinated into the Anglican church

    Rev. William Mulvihill to be laicized

    Rev. Paul Creanor, CC to be co-pastor at the Oratory

    Rev. Tom Wood, CC, to be Hospital Chaplain

    Ms. Magna Carta to undertake further studies and be c/o Bishops house, Princess Gardens, Larne.

    Very Rev Bellarmine, PP, to also become chaplain to the Polish community

    Sr. Mary Tro to be resident secretary (without an alb)


    Bishop Buckley extends his best wishes to all those undertaking new appointments and assures them of his continued prayers and support

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    1. Thank You 13:10 That gave me my first really good belly lol in sometime! I really needed it too! And I appear to have fared quite well in the changes! I do think that Sr Mary TRO should be allowed both alb and stole should she so wish. (Try just sayin that like after a few! ;-)

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    2. Maggie Carta off for 'further studies'. what was it pat? another jockstrap incident? perhaps indecent images on a presentation? a silver granddaddies account?

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  39. Is it true that some Irish bishops have been with rent boys in Rome?

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    1. Il gatto di Parolin30 July 2018 at 17:04

      Were they with rent boys in Rome or somewhere else? Are we talking more than one bishop? I know of the case in Florence, the lost wallet, etc. but Rome? But risky, no?

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    2. Il gatto di Parolin30 July 2018 at 17:09

      Rent boys may not always be the most accurate term. Some are young men on the way up and no money is exchanged but benefit in kind may pertain. Benelli's gift to Paul VI would know about this type of reward.

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    3. And guess who it was lost his wallet in Florence? Strange goings on indeed.

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    4. IL gatto di Parolin 17:09

      Parolin's cat is certainly being 'Catty'. Benelli's gift to Paul VI, I take it you mean Bishop John McGee, what would he know about this type of reward?


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  40. +Pat,Are there drug problems in the Armagh presbyterate?

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  41. + Pat, do you have a life outside the internet?

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    1. I have a wedding in 50 minutes and a funeral after that.

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    2. 13.37: A wedding and a funeral. Rich pickings today Pat! Exorbitant fees as per usual. If you had my diary you'd be infinitely much busier and run of your feet! I have 2/3 funerals weekly on average, 10 weddings this summer....but do I complain. No...just letting you know there are many hard working priests who are faithful in their work and ministry....P.S...Is it a dog's funeral.. Just wondering, as Mags would say!!!!!!

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    3. I have 100+ weddings this year.

      I would be more than happy to celebrate a beloved pets passing.

      Dogs are more faithful to their dog collars than are your colleagues - and maybe yourself :-)

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    4. Pat, do you perform dog funerals. a few years ago one of our neighbors dog died, they had him for 12 years. They laid him out in the living room in his little coffin and they had a plate made with his name on the coffin etc. next day they held a service in the house. I think they performed it themselves, and the dog was buried in their garden in a sort of vault thing which they had made.

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    5. I have presided at Thanksgiving Services for beloved pets.

      Why not. Most of them have ore live in them than many people.

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  42. MourneManMichael30 July 2018 at 13:36

    I ought to have put more emphasis on the necessity to focus criticism on the 'message' (of RC church failings), rather than the 'messenger' (+Pat) MMM

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  43. Some men need a rising agent.

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    1. Not "The Boys From The County Armagh".

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  44. The characters portrayed by Fr Ted are now proving to be quite accurate.

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    1. Father Ted was innocent compared to the reality!

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  45. Meath changes have been published.
    The current bishop's secretary is getting a promotion but his replacement is a local.
    Mullingar Adm is getting a parish
    New PP appointed for Slane replacing Dwayne Gavin

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    1. @13:51 that's NOT a promotion

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  46. Xxxx is a sexual drunk.

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    1. To why is Amy not getting him and others the help they need,?

      Saying the Rosary will not solve these problems.

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    2. Patsy at 14:09

      Patsy, saying the Rosary would be a start. Eviva Maria!

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  47. Pat stop updating the blog during a funeral.

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    1. I am sitting, vested, in the sun outside my chapel waiting on the bridal party. I imagine they will be late. So I'll sit here in nature and moderate the blog.

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  48. As we look around the Irish Church today and observe various types of strange goings on, it is important to take some time out and meditate on prophets who live among us. In the case of the photos of the Armagh clergy the words of Prophet Byrne spring to mind "you are jealous of them because they are gorgeous"

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  49. Xxxxxx and the Sauna Babylonia visit.

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  50. Fr. Xxxxx escorted Xxxxxxx into the Sauna Babylonia naked party. It started with wine and cheese.

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  51. The cheese course will take place in Xxxxxx'x room. It has a beautiful aroma of vanilla to mask the scent of poppers and the lube.

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  52. Thursday nights under Byrne involved Blue Chanel Cologne, Calvin Klein bokers and Poppers.

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  53. Here's a laugh for you Bishop Pat. An eminent cleric was on a bus journey recently (a regional trip) and he's a good friend of yours too. He tried to access your blog but it was blocked by the bus wifi. The system must have thought it was a pornographic website! Lol. Well of course it is in one sense - because you've been dredging all those sewers of filth. Bravo Bishop Pat. Your website/blog now sets off artificial intelligence alarm bells!

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  54. My Lord Bishop,

    I am flattered but my Orders are from God himself, not even your valid but illicit can annul them. I am of Christ...

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    1. And I wouldnt dare try!

      I dont want Bill Mulvihill on my case :-) - Amy says its a very scary experience :-)

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  55. Something is not right about the Blackrock, Co. Louth situation. If this blog is correct, a former curate might have questions to answer about abuse allegations. This former curate is now a retired priest. How come this is only coming to light now? These events would have occurred during Tom Fee's time. Did he know about them? Did Cahal Daly know anything? It's difficult to believe he didn't. After all, he brought down a government over Smyth. Surely, he did an audit of Armagh when he arrived there? Fee and Daly are dead, but Sean Baptist Brady is still alive and kicking. Did he know anything about Blackrock? Could we not ask him a few wee questions? Maybe he is the one to go to prison and glorious martyrdom. He could even follow in the footsteps of McCarrick! Why is poor Eamon Martin having to wade through this crap, none of it of his making?

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  56. So there are two investigations ongoing in Armagh and another serious accusation that there are questions to be answered about events in Blackrock, Co Louth. While these cases are linked (culture of cover-up and culture of entitlement) they are also separate. Eamon M. can deal with Blackrock, but it's going to be very difficult for him to do anything much about the less serious problem, ie priests with partners and priests sleeping around. That one is bigger than Armagh, although it seems to be particularly bad in Armagh. Or else, Armagh is just leeking badly right now, while other dioceses look on and thank their lucky stars that they don't have such leaks to the Buckley blog.

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  57. The uniforms, Poppers and the inflicting of the pain receptors are all part of the ritual. One incident resulted in a broken wrist.

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  58. 14.14
    You are in heresy. To all creation belongs Christ.... its a Sanskrit word ....research there.....but all belong to the Anointed One....it is in fact the core...

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    1. Are you a Zionist?

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    2. Bill, are you ok? I mean, are you really ok?

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    3. Silly Billy at 15:26

      Please get help, place yourself under the protection of Our Blessed Lady Eviva Maria!

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  59. The Maynooth rabbit room. By day its a normal seminarian bedroom by night strange goings on.

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  60. Hi Pat is Sauna Babylonia popular for the seminarian vacations now.

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  61. Omg remember Horny Andy left Vaseline and Tampons outside a Tuam seminarian's door.

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    1. Brendan took the vaseline to his room

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    2. Lets hope dear the vaseline was not used as lubricant. You see it is oil based and makes latex split very easily. Take it from one who knows. Best stick to water based lubricants in future dearie.

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  62. Fr Dwayne Gavin was appointed PP to Slane late last year, now there's a new PP. Does that confirm he is gone? No mention of Fr Robert McGivney, yet there's someone new in Mullingar.

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  63. The tittle tattle of who led who into the naked party at whatever sauna in Prague or any other city isn't the core of the problem here.
    There have always been gay priests and seminarians since the dawn of time. Go read Peter Damian in the 11th century writing about the problems in central Italy, especially among the monks.
    In the past, it seems a greater effort was made to keep it in one's pants. Some of those efforts resulted in hideous side effects - alcoholism, depression, psychosis, probably even some of the abuse.
    What appears to be novel about the current younger clergy is their brazenness. They seem cock sure of themselves and utterly confident in their cruising habits. Some years ago I would never have believed that a seminarian seeking ordination would be prepared to 'blackmail' his ordinary in return for ordination. Now, I'm not so sure. There's evidence of one case in Armagh and possibly more elsewhere. Did Michael Byrne have his hand on Diarmuid Martin's backside in that infamous photo taken in a sacristy in Bray (?). A previous generation of seminarians would not have had that confidence, never mind even the confidence to be out publically, let alone trade sex with a superior for sacramental reward! This new generation of gay seminarian appears to believe itself immune to criticism, immune to judgement, and immune to any type of accountability.

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  64. And it's no accident that many of those belonging to that new generation are also nostalgic for the olden days when Father was Father and everyone knew her (usually) place. That's where Frankie the Argentine is correct - clericalism is a real evil - because it legitimises love of power and control, lack of accountability, and creates a whole culture of entitlement, where the Gospel soon becomes a empty hollow reference point.

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    1. 16.02 It has also created a culture of dependency. I have been told, by a parishioner, that Catholics are not allowed to read spiritual books or meditate. I honestly don't know what is going to happen to them in the future. The present priest is from India and no-one one can understand his accent.

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  65. Chasing out all the gay priests is not the answer either. They exist and have always existed. There wouldn't be many priests left if all the gay (many of them excellent priests) men were chucked out.
    The other elephants in the room are compulsory celibacy and Catholic attitudes to gay marriage.
    Now wouldn't that be revolutionary, to have Father and his husband living in Cookstown, Loughgall or wherever - all above board - rather than the subject of snide local gossip as is the case now.
    Celibacy is not working. That much is clear. Very few human beings are cut out to be celibate. And maybe we need to be more tolerant of those who fall and pick themselves up again. But for those who just give the two fingers to the idea and still take promises of celibacy that's another matter. If a promise is not a promise and their word is not their word, how can you ever really trust such people. I think that's what much of the anger on this blog is about. It's not about being gay per se. It's about hypocrisy and lack of integrity.

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  66. Another thing that is clear is that seminaries have had their day. Train priests in theology and other matters in proper theological faculties. Do the spiritual training and all the rest under the guidance of one or a few wise priests based in the diocese, but that means being resident with those guys day in day out for several years. So that they get to know the candidate, are able to help him, and are truly able to make a judgement about his suitability at the end of the process. In other words, bishops need to take back responsibility at local level and make arrangements at local level.Ireland isnt too big for someone to study in Dublin, Belfast or Cork several days a week and be back in a house of 'Formation' (that horrible word) at weekends and during holidays.
    Look, the rest has failed. It's worth a try. It might make a difference, resulting in more grounded, humane, emotionally mature and integrated priests. They would still have the link and experience of the wider church through theological education and other education at national and even international level.
    How many Irish bishops are ready to take direct responsibility for their seminarians however? How many bishops have a few good men they would be prepared to assign to these tasks in a diocese? Why not close Maynooth and integrate the Theology, Canon Law and Philosophy faculties into Maynooth University as a Faculty of Theology. This can be done under the current universities legislation - the ban on theology in the NUI is gone.

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  67. The bishop elect of Meath made much about the fact that he was in Padraig MacMahon's year in Maynooth. Pity Padraig is after being moved from being Adm in Mullingar before the new bishop's arrival.

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  68. Celibacy as defined by the Roman Church is a pathology. Human beings were not defined to be on their own. If a man or a woman get to a certain age without a sexual experience with another man or woman, there is in fact something wrong with them. Virginity for Mary was not for her virtue but because she was something despised, no man wanted her. a long tale. There is much today about a married clergy . It is necessary. The Church will not recover in the western world until we have a married presbyterate and the ordination of women. There are some ahead of us all, they have discovered happiness in each other. They, for the love they have, are much more rounded human beings. They are not out to do harm, it is just how life has unfolded. I am not sure the sacrifice of their reputations for a Puritan Jansenist culture serves any good. If their humanity has blossomed, leave them alone. Call it sin if you like, accorded the right to every Human Being by God.... or perhaps they are ahead of what we have yet to understand....only kindness and understanding bring us near to God who knows us all as we are and love us there.... be careful of crushing the gentle reed....

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    1. All well said, but you're a bit nieve regarding married priesthood. There are two plus in that scenario and limits on ministry because of duty to spouse and children.
      You have an enviable position to give your whole being in the service of others.
      This is not so with married Anglican clergy or now Irish Catholic Deacons.
      Fr Bill you still are a product of your formation whereby you have forgotten and cannot comprehend the needs of family. But this is inherint in the church.

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    2. 16.50: Such awful, confusing and sad theology. Empty and nihilistic. Get out of priesthood if it is such torture for you. I cannot fathom the misconstruction of sentences and knowledge. What are you trying to tell us, O Tortured Soul.

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  69. Spirituality and sensuality lead to exactly the same place, a teaching of the Ancient Fathers of the Desert and elsewhere .... the constituent is Love in its Godly forms....

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  70. Sean Quinn was always a powerful man.

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  71. Is it true Sean Brady is compromised by the curate in Cookstown? Or as the Russians would say, does the curate have compromat on Brady?

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  72. Pat have you any respect for anyone or anything?
    None of us is perfect, we all fall short at times with myself to the front!
    Do you think it is a Christian and Godly example to make mockery and scorn others just for your own gains?

    Do you live the Gospel of compassion and mercy?

    Have a moment's thought about it!

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  73. Bishop Fiachra Γ“ Ceallaigh has died. RIP

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  74. I cannot say I know Rory Coyle well. All the other men in those photographs are good men and decent priests. They understand humanity and they help people. insofar as i know , not one of them has ever taken advantage of another human being. If they have found intimacy with one another, though a problem for the institution, it roots them to their brothers and sisters. Sin is a horrible word, english and empty. Amartia in the greek gets it, we miss the mark, we want the bullseye and go off to the side. I know each of them, they are as priests as good as is needed.....they serve the Gospels. They serve the Cross.....let him who is without sin cast the first stone....

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    1. Everyone deserves a defence and defender.

      At least they cannot accuse you Bill of inconsistency.

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    2. Sadly, Bill Mulvihill you are not on the ball as much as you think you are. The clergy in the Northern part of your diocese that you mention have clearly cleverly pulled the wool well over your eyes. You won't be the first or last bad judge of character.

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    3. 17.31: Mulvihill, listen to your own words - "Let he/she who is without sin cast the first stone". Why then, are you making vicious judgments and expressing such condemnation on your fellow colleagues? I am convinced you are a very inconsolable malcontent. It is unkind, unjust and most UNCHRISTIAN of you to present yourself as better or above all whom you liberally, hatefully and unjustly condemn!!

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  75. I have on this blog read about myself, how far off the mark, I am to be laizisised, I was offered a bishopric. I have interest in neither , I am doing the best I can, I imagine my brother priests are just the same...

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    1. They are afraid of you as a PP.

      Imagine how they would fear you as a bishop!

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    2. Bill what Diocese are you.in and where were u offered Bishop too and how long ago.

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  76. Whether priests or seminarians are gay or not is a red herring. The utterly dysfunctional situation we are in derives on the one hand from public denial of homosexuality and on the other a secret world in which it is very much practised. So when characters such as BXVI and Old Mother Burke blame gays in the seminaries, they are not solving but compounding a problem which could even involve men such as themselves. Shock, horror! It’s universal: remember the Sankt PΓΆlten seminary scandal under the archconservative and defender of Cardinal Groer, Bp Kurt Krenn? But what REALLY gets my goat is the Church’s shameless assumption of the moral highground such as when the clergy organize a summit on the family, as if they were its guardians. These appalling vicious and dishonest men actually go public to pronounce on who belongs and who doesn’t. Every so often the Catholic Herald ( forget Athens - the Daily Mail of English Catholicism ) publishes a list of supposedly heroic priests of peerless integrity who dare to oppose the prevailing current concerning say gay marriage and admittance of divorced people to communion: Never! Never! The most recent was to express support for Humanae Vitae by a crew for whom contraception is unlikely to have ever been an issue. Leaving the Athens of English Catholicism out of it, a few other Benedictines leap off the page. Coming down heavily on condoms is the Rt Rev Mark Hargreaves ( yes, that’s how he styles himself, possibly thinking that by now the spot of bother at Prinknash some years back has been forgotten ). Then styling himself a mere Very Rev is Leo Chamberlain under whose regime as Headmaster of Ampleforth abuse was so rampant that the UK Secretary of State for Education is now threatening to close the whole f*****g place down. Also proudly adding his signature, though modestly and uncharacteristically eschewing his abbatial dignity, is our old friend Dom Cuthbert Brogan. Perhaps Tom Wood can assure us there was never a problem with contraception at Farnborough in his day. Phew, that’s a relief! No women in the rooms!

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    1. Rest assured Cuthbert doesn't do women in any shape or form, so contraception was at no time likely to be an issue for him. He also spent years angling for the abbacy. 'I'm the man for the job' he used to say. His ambition and lack of insight into what a sh*t he is are incredible.
      In an almost unprecedented recommendation, when he was a novice a visitation advised the community to dismiss him. Thomas had the integrity and good sense to leave, and a community which wasn't at war with itself would have got rid of Cuthbert.
      But the young and liberal Cuthbert sided with that side of the community before abruptly changing direction when it suited him and pushing Fr Michael Fava out.
      Nobody should join, or even visit, Farnborough. The original plan was to let Farnborough fizzle out so that the Alton monks would be the continuation of the Farnborough conventus. It should have been suppressed and had Cuthbert been dismissed as a novice, the problem of what to do with him wouldn't have arisen.

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  77. Xxxxcc McXcxccx riding the country?

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  78. 6500 blog visits by 5.50 pm.

    The Armagh story is red hot!

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    1. The Armagh boys including Marshall know something is coming Pat. Expose them!

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  79. What is the Armagh story? As we've learned before about you, your like the 'Grand old Duke of York' build us up for a load of farcical bull with no substance!

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  80. Cookstown parochial house is the new red rabbit house of Armagh Archdiocese.

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  81. I’ve been joyfully following paths in Latin lands for the last few weeks but have found that I’ve missed the characters who populate this blog.

    What’s been happening? is Bishop Patrick as tolerant as ever? Has Magna had a new shipment of Caldey chocolate? How are the multitude of my fellow anonymous folks?

    Who’s this new fellow, Bill Mulvilhill? He reminds me of the old days when Z and Finegan would gossip in Reggie’s class.

    This blog is a far cry from ‘ Grandmother And The Priests’, but perhaps it’s closer to Grandmother herself.

    Seraphim+

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  82. Brady moved Xxxxxx away for a short time before placing him in Xxxxxxx He now the current PP of Xxxxxxx Parish.

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  83. So, another day, another round of scandals about priests. Surprise!!!!!

    I look at some of the names mentioned or alluded to, and I'm not surprised!!

    However, I see some missing from the list. The ones I speak of aren't all sexual deviants (or at least that's not what I know), but they are scandalous. Armagh Archdiocese by the way.

    There's the Canon who is money mad!!! Baptism, wedding, funeral, handshake in the street - he's always looking money. And he's always so busy, there's no time for the people. More than likely, no time for God. What about his BEST FRIEND? That's all we hear about when he preaches.

    There's the Adm who is a little too close with female parishioners. and yes, that's plural!

    What about the PP of a Co. Tyrone Parish who says he'll leave if he is ever moved?

    What about all of them?!?!?! I would be a staunch defender of Priests and the Church in general. But this all makes it rather difficult. I'm sorry, it's your JOB to serve people, not lounge around and do nothing.

    Priests - GO TO CONFESSION. READ THE VOWS YOU TOOK AT ORDINATION. REMEMBER WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO - GOD'S WORK.

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  84. Wilson and the educational settlement. The victim is continuing to receive counselling.

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    1. What about the priests who allow Wilson on the altar with full knowledge of his deviance?
      Brown envelopes from unwitting parishioners who marvel at his lovdlo hair n piety.

      Get him OUT!!

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    2. 20:21 You really are obsessed with the man in a most unhealthy way. You should seek help because otherwise your obsessions will consume you. Whoever he is he is not all good and not all bad. Probably trying to do the best he can in this vale of tears.
      It’s not one bit edyfifying to see your compulsions being aired in public.

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    3. 21:07 are you serious? Or are you a priest? That lad has done untold damage to colleges, family n parishioners n his PP has facilitated this by allowing him on the altar as he must have fallen out with the order of Malta in Omagh.
      His family cannot understand how he was accepted into studies.

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  85. Did Xxxxxx ride a certain Armagh Priest?

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  86. I was pondering today, much like someone else earlier on this blog. What does one do to get a fancy title like 'Episcopal Vicar' for example. I would dearly love something such as that, how do you go about it? Anybody? I was always last to be picked for the class team at school, having such a grand title would be fun!

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    1. Are u power hungry and a control freak and do u want to Lord it over people?.

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    2. 20.47 On reflection I'm a bit too long in the tooth for all that to be honest dear.

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    3. Methinks the Count is my mummy.πŸ˜†

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    4. The Count do you have an email address? It would be handy for the lads like.

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    5. Indeed I do. TheCount@mail.com

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  87. The truth will set Stephen Wilson Free even if the truth is revolting.

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  88. Enough of this beating around the bush - time to reveal all to separate fact from fiction - this is coming that is going to be revealed yet very little to nothing is - what ever you have +Pat time to reveal all

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  89. Pat, who is this Count? He has made me have a little laugh today lol. A welcome less serious contributior amidst the high drama! I take it he is not a Papal Count lol.

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  90. Cardinal Ricardo Ezzati, Archbishop of Santiago and Primate of Chile, has been charged with suspicion of covering up sexual abuse.

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