Saturday, 14 July 2018



The Secrets of the French Church’s “Gay Expert”, Tony Anatrella
 JULY 12, 2018 BY CAMERON DOODY


  
Monsignor Tony Anatrella was widely considered the official “gay expert” in the Vatican and the French Catholic Church. The priest, psychoanalyst and author of thirty books on same-sex attraction was the driving force behind the 2005 decree of the Congregation for Catholic Education that barred gays from becoming priests. A member of the Medjugorje commission of the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith, and a consultor to two Pontifical Councils – for the Family and for Health Care Ministry – the man known in Paris as the “Church’s shrink” taught that homosexuals are narcissists who are incapable of forming long-term relationships. “You’re not gay, you just think that you are”, the psychoanalyst used to say to the dozens of seminarians sent to him during three decades from all over France to “cure” their homosexuality. Anatrella was even asked to cross over into the realm of child protection, giving a course in Rome in 2015 to newly-appointed bishops from all over the world on how to handle sexual abuse, in which he told them there is no need to inform the civil authorities when a prelate hears about sexual abuse by one of his priests.
But all the while – or at least since 2006, when the first victims spoke publicly – everybody in the Vatican and in the French Church knew that Anatrella had been accused by several men of abusing them during special “physical therapy” sessions. His alleged victims accuse him of encouraging them to live out their homosexual fantasies during their one-on-one appointments. The sessions included orgasms and Monsignor Anatrella “only wore his socks” thoroughout them, one of the victims told the Dutch newspaper Nederlands Dagblad. “I know details about his body only someone who has seen him naked can know”, said this young man.



Anatrella’s secret finally came undone last week when the Archbishop of Paris, Michel Aupetit, finally suspended him from public ministry for abusing young men in his care. Aupetit’s predecessors, Cardinals Lustiger and Vingt-Trois, had publicly supported the priest and psychoanalyst, even after several victims complained to the archdiocese. Those were times in which the French society was dealing with the legalization of same-sex marriage. Anatrella was considered by the episcopate as an important voice in the debate, since he could speak on the topic as a respected psychoanalyst.
The French Dominican Philippe Lefèbvre was for years almost the only one who opposed the ideas of the influential monsignor. But now that the priest has fallen from his pedestal, Lefèbvre denounces the ecclesiastical culture that enabled this scandal to flourish.

The Dominican doesn’t mince words anymore. He says the way in which the Roman Catholic Church has dealt with Anatrella’s victims has been by nothing less than “mafia practices”. Lefèbvre, who teaches biblical studies in Fribourg (Switzerland), came in touch with Anatrella’s thinking by chance when he was working on a book about men and women in the Bible.
“At the beginning of 2006 I came across an article in which Anatrella writes about the inability of homosexuals to become priests. And I read his book on homosexuality with the title The Origins of Homosexuality and The Reign of Narcissus. I then wrote a critical response. Two French Catholic magazines refused to publish it. ‘You’re right, but we can’t afford to criticize Anatrella’, they said to me. Eventually my story ended up on a Catholic internet site. Among the numerous reactions I received, there was also a letter from a young man who endured Anatrella’s ‘physical therapies’. He had come to Anatrella to have his homosexual attraction healed”.
Was he the only victim that you have come to know?
No. A French priest who was involved in the pastoral care for homosexuals wrote to me and said he knew three men who had gone through the same thing. That priest started talking to seven bishops in November 2006. They weren’t surprised at all. Everyone knew about it! On November 23, 2006, Cardinal Vingt-Trois, the archbishop of Paris, wrote an e-mail to all his priests: “We support Monsignor Anatrella with our prayer and our esteem”.
I know four victims personally, but even more have written to me. At the end of 2006, when it came out that the French bishops had done nothing about it, I wrote a new article, in which I also mentioned Anatrella’s “physical therapy”.
Did you take risks?
The church gives these people an almost almighty status. And if you criticize them, you get the bishops coming down on you. Or the whole Catholic system of laymen that keeps all kinds of internet sites running. They are mafia practices that are accompanied even by intimidations. I know that Anatrella has tried everything to get me removed from my chair here at the faculty in Fribourg, even going to the highest Roman court. I also received phone calls from friends who told me that I was being portrayed as the “destroyer of the church” in Rome. A bishop told me that I had better stop, since my lectureship depends on the Congregation for Catholic Education in Rome.
How can this support for Anatrella from the highest levels of the Church be explained?
Bishops are generally weak-willed. Someone who takes a firm position in the public debate about matters such as the family and homosexuality is therefore good for them. If you are scared yourself, you send in the dogs. And Anatrella said things that conservative Catholics like to hear. Many French priests and monks have also been in therapy with Anatrella, often  to cure their homosexual attraction. Some of them now have high positions in the church. Anatrella knows things, and people are afraid of him. But the victims have remained very worthy, brave and courageous. They haven’t got discouraged.
Why do you find this affair so significant?
Thinking differently – about the family, for example – has been made completely impossible by the current ecclesiastical structures. Either by ecclesiastical office-bearers, or by conservative laymen with their internet sites. In Iran we call that the revolutionary guard. The Ayatollahs have the power, but then there are the people who look after all the villages and families, and check, for example, if your wife’s headscarf is thick enough. The Roman Catholic Church has come to resemble that. The culture of discussion and dialogue has completely disappeared. We are in a Church of conformity with apparatchiks that maintain an institution. Jesus calls them “the dead who bury the dead”. Anatrella has held French Catholicism in his ideological grip for thirty years, while the bishops knew of his abuse. In the corridors several bishops said to me: “You’re right, but don’t say it was me who told you”.
The current Archbishop of Paris, Michel Aupetit, came out [and suspended Anatrella] very cleverly just before the summer holiday. After the summer we will have forgotten about it again.

But I hope Anatrella’s suspension is the beginning of a new reflection.

PAT SAYS

Here we have another high profile case whereby a cleric is condemning homosexuality and yet practising it himself.

Anatrella advised that homosexuals should not be allowed into priesthood - while he himself was abusing you  asked, apart from his socks.

We also see how we our church figures knew all about Anatrella and did  nothing about it.

They stayed quiet while the Monsignor continued to abuse.

Once again, sexual hypocrisy and criminal cover up.


TRALEE PARISHIONER OBJECTS TO SEAN JONES





A Tralee Parishioner has written to the blog to say that Sean Jones, King Puck, is becoming their curate on July 25th coming.

The parishioner is deeply unhappy at the curate they are getting.

He wrote - "I hate the thoughts of my elderly mother going to weekly Confession to him".

91 comments:

  1. To the moron who hates the idea of his Mother going to Confession to Fr Jones, cop yourself on. Firstly it's none of his business who his Mother goes to Confession to and secondly Fr Jones is not the only Priest in Tralee or nearby. She can go to another Priest. Simple! Can't believe the moron who wrote that and the bigger moron for publishing such utter rubbish.

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    1. 22:38 Your anger is totally disproportionate. You're obviously a Mr Jones fan.

      Quite frankly, I'd be deeply concerned if Mr Jones were counselling 😅 any young man sure or unsure of his sexuality, especially if he were good-looking.

      I think we're going to hear more about Mr Jones eventually; he won't escape the dark cloud he's under.

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    2. To be honest I'd be concerned about any priest conselling people about their sexuality. To live a celibate life is odd; and the clerical patterns of trying to, failing, self-rejection for failing and then repeating the pattern again (as displayed by multiple stories in the media) is even odder.

      Celibacy, if successful, is the product of psychological adjustment - again causing a questionable basis for counselling.

      Priests should stick to religion.


      As for Sean Jones... so far the church has handled the situation appallingly. But now that he is ordained let him have space. As Magna said we will hear more eventually - I'd rather hear the more when it arises than see the man continuously beaten with the same history again and again and again. Such relentless drum-banging will eventually be used as an excuse for what is already an inevitable downfall.

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    3. o.h.l, in the meantime, Jones can do much harm to insecure, vulnerable, and impressionable young people.

      Let's be blunt about this: Mr Jones himself is highly unsuited to priesthood, both psychologically and morally; he has, therefore, the potential to cause much harm to others. This is implicit in your post, where you mention his 'inevitable downfall'.

      Giving Mr Jones 'space' is precisely what he wants, but not what he needs. And it certainly isn't what those at risk deserve.

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    4. Magna Carta's Mum15 July 2018 at 11:16

      Magna darling, I've made an appointment for you with Fr Jones in Tralee, at 4p.m. today, to talk about your sexuality.
      You know Mommie dearest does her utmost to sort you out, darling.

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    5. Dear Magna,

      In many ways I agree with you... I do think the situation is now high risk. But with the evidence at Ray's disposal he has gambled the wellbeing of his laity. It is time for new evidence to accumulate so that the situation does not get outrageously out of hand.

      In the meanwhile the Jones' actions and sins can accumulate on Ray Brown's soul.

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    6. Langer @ 09.18 The thing that gets on your wick is that Sean Jones was deemed worthy of Ordination to the priesthood and you weren’t. Time to move on petty little man.

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    7. Well anon 13.11 you infer motive for you don't understand me. I walked away freely and I'm 100% ok with my choice to do so. I'd not trade my life for a slave's collar and a false instirution.

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    8. Why join it of its a false institution. You don't make any logical sense. You discontinued because you got kicked out. It now suits you to be vindictive and nasty.

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    9. I make a lot of sense. Hundreds of people, like me, are falsely duped into the Roman Catholic Church. Having seen the institution from the inside not only did I walk away I recognise that silence does nobody any favours.

      You however, being unable to respond to the content of my objections have decided to respond with lies attacking me - which incidentially is against the teaching of the Roman Church (and even if you believe your own lies you should note that detraction is also against the teachings of the Roman Church you seek to defend)

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    10. 15:28 If that’s your view you made the right decision. The trouble is there’s none of the calm one would expect about authentic discernment visible in what you write. Something is rotten in the state of Denmark.

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    11. @18.39
      I'm as horizontal as people come. You are a prize example of the low intellect anons on this blog who are incapable of distinguishing between replying to a comment and replying at the commentator. You display poor blog etiquette.

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  2. It wont be approved,

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  3. What will a parishioner writing to you about a priest ever achieve in the future or has achieved in the past.

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  4. Anatrella's homophobic articles appeared in very respectable Catholic publications and he was trotted out as the very pillar of Catholic sexual wisdom both by the French bishops and by the Vatican. Many vulnerable young gays were traumatized by his writings. Then came the drip, drip of revelations about his actual behavior, which the hierarchy and the Vatican, unwilling to lose face, simply refused to countenance. Knowing how Anatrella irritated gays and liberals and gay-friendly clergy, they presumend that these reports were mere tittle-tattle. The sexual dynamics underlying their own behavior are not much better than Anatrella's own -- they are not naive, innocent pastors; their gullibility is perverse.

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  5. And so it becomes clear as to why Hugh Connolly felt it appropriate to hide in Paris when McAreavey (rightly fearing high levels of media attention) refused his return to Dromore.

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  6. Yes, it was a very naive comment for that parishioner to make. I should think it is up to his mother to make her own choice.

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  7. So at least two (possibly more) popes (Benedict and Francis) knew of this pervert-abuser's behaviour...and did nothing. Not only that, but Benedict allowed this moral and professional fraud (many gay relationships are indeed long-lasting) to persuade him to bar men from seminary if they were gay.

    And people wonder why I call the institutional Roman Catholic Church a 'w***e!'.😆

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    1. Wouldn't surprise me if any Pope hadnt been informed about other scandals that was going on down through years. Its like Confessions. Hush! Hush!

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  8. According to Wiki, the Monsignor "specialized in the study of adolescent sexuality."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1VgcxE9Lpw

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  9. Do people really go to confession every week?

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    1. Yes, they do. Some of them are neurotic. (God help them.)

      What puzzles me is that people feel the need (or were scaremongered into feeling the need by the 'Church') to confess to a priest, any priest, regardless of his moral and psychological suitability to hear confession.

      I'd be deeply concerned if parents were pressuring their teenage sons to confess, in a private or semi-private area, to someone like Mr Jones.

      When will Catholics awaken to the simple fact that all they need do is confess to the presence of Christ in their hearts. Nothing more is required.

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    2. MourneManMichael15 July 2018 at 09:38

      Not me!
      Last time was 1970.
      Looking back: what a ridiculous concept it is.
      And seven year old kids are still being indoctrinated into the guilt control clutches of catholicism!
      MMM

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    3. Are you sure it wasn't 1870?

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    4. It's pathetic that MMM left the Church a lifetime ago and he still goes on about it.

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    5. 15.25: I agree with you. Lately MMM has become a cranky commentator with sweeping judgments about the Church he left. Some criticisms are valid but his sneering contempt is nauseating. Being the atheist he is why doesn't he concentrate his focus on the tyranny of his own credentials of liberal "tolerance" and "respect" for others who have a deep, religious perspective - virtues which he agrees are essential for dialogue around reform of any kind. Sadly, he is adopting some of Magna's awful, unbearable spirit - nastiness. Not very commendable.

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    6. MMM will ball his eyes out on his deathbed begging God to save his scrawny neck. Most do.

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    7. MMM, is a rational comment maker. The fact that he is an atheist who believes he can see through false religion does not disqualify him from commenting.

      You people only justify the way he feels about many religious peoplem

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    8. 17 41 - "You people" - a rather contemptuous comment Pat! Dismissive and ignorant. MMM can make good, valid arguments but, like you and Magna, very often he is blind to his own "tyranny" of thought and analysis when other viewpoints don't concur with his worldview and more so if it is of a Catholic/Religious perspective. He has dumped his faith. That's fine but atheism hasn't left a positive legacy on the world.

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  10. Firstly let me say it is sad to hear of this story of Monsignor Anatrella in that he has clearly led a double life, it appears he has not lived upto his commitment to celibacy, and he has abused a position of authority. I commend Archbishop Aupetit in suspending him and acting on such information. As for the accusation that the two previous Pontiffs St John Paul the Great and Pope Benedict XVI knew of this I question. Where is the evidence that they knew? The likelihood of them having any evidence is slim and that is a major leap and assumption, which of course this blog is infamous for.

    Secondly I wish to comment about young Fr Sean Jones. In my reading of this blog I have never seen any substantial evidence that would have him convicted of a crime had homosexual activity still been illegal. I agree that there has been some information shared that suggests that he may have, but not enough to convince a jury nor enough to carry out a total character assassination which this blog seems to keep doing. It was St Augustine who said "the validity of the sacraments does not depend upon the worthiness of the celebrant." I love the image used by Henry Nouwen of the wounded healer, because that is what all priests, religious, teachers, nurses, social workers, counsellors and parents are. None of us are perfect. Only Jesus and the Virgin Mary where without sin. All of us have fallen short of the Grace of God. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." (John 8:7) I hope and pray that if Fr Sean Jones has fallen in the past in such a way this blog suggests, that he has received the help that he needs to live the life he is now committed to and that he receives the grace from God to build upon his nature. No person is beyond the redeeming power of God's grace.

    May I suggest any of the following activities for those who seem to be obsessed with destroying this priests reputation and credibility:
    1: Pray for him
    2: Offer sacrifices and penances for all our priests and especially those who struggle with celibacy
    3: Complete an examination of conscience using the ten commandments and see if you have ever broken any of them?
    4: Contemplate or reflect on a time when you were falsely accused of something, and maybe even punished for it and how did you feel? How did you react?
    5: Reflect on the burden of proof and seriously weigh up what scant evidence which has been produced on this blog and in other places. (I have seen so little it is funny, but a lot of rumours and a lack of credible witnesses or names)

    Finally I wish to share two anecdotes from an old friend of mine. He uses them often when discussing matters of proof and opinion. "There are three sides to any story, the accused, the accuser, and somewhere in-between them is the truth." And "opinions are like a*******s everyone has one."

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    1. As this Monsignor played a central role ad using the Vatican it is very likely that senior there knew about him and covered up for him.

      Jones has never been accused of a crime. Therefore the jury aspect is irrelevant

      It strikes me that you are a blind defender of the corrupt institution.

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    2. It is very sad that a blogger uses his Mother against Father Jones does his Mother not even trust the Bishop well maybe he should suggest to his Mother to join the Oratory if she has No faith in Our priests or bishops.

      father Jones is ordained a Holy Priest and approved by his Bishop and Rome also the Churches safeguarding Officers so all is fine.

      the Churches PR people and Lawyers are well away what will happen someone will try and set Father Jones up and record him on their smart phone that's how low life they will be.

      Sadly jealous people have their own agenda and cannot move on after being rejected by the One True Church.

      The 1.6 Billion Roman Catholic know only too well there will be bad Bishops and Clergy but we are all sinners and should look at ourselves first they throw the stone.

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    3. 09:58 If you were implicitly criticising my post at 01:12, then you didn't read it carefully enough. I didn't say that JPII knew anything of Anatrella's disgraceful behaviour, only that Benedict and Francis must have known, since some of Anatrella's victims made public their abuse in 2006.

      Frankly, you have a barefaced cheek to talk about 'proof' and 'opinion' when the acquisition of proof in my case didn't bother you in the least.😆

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    4. @ Football lad,
      What exactly is a "Holy Priest"?

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    5. This two-faced priest got caught out so everyone else should do an examination of conscience?
      Wtf?

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  11. 9:58

    You want us to pray, do penance, examine our conscience a d contemplate.

    That's what they all did about clerics who were abusing.

    Take no action.

    Cover it up.

    "Poor Father has a weakness".

    How utterly blind can you be?

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  12. 10.40: Yes, Pat, "poor father has a weakness" - not an excuse for any kind of abusive behaviour. Never but that doesn't give any of us carte blanche to engage in a vendetta of nasty judgment, analysis and condemnation. The gospel asks us to "forgive", to show "mercy", to be "kind" and to lead, by good example, one another in God's ways. I can never fathom cruel and vindictive judgment.

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  13. Another closet homosexual who took his frustrations out on the vulnerable, all too common unfortunately. A church cover-up, nothing new there either. No evidence against Fr Sean Jones.

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  14. Such an abuse of trust and position. It is reprehenceable! What is it with clerics who publicly speak against gay marriage, make snide comments about gay people yet when they think nobody knows are engaging in homosexual activity themselves.

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    1. Anatrella was a poisonous, creepy homophobe, no doubt self-hating, and he could not suppress his compulsion to sexually exploit his young patients. The real question is why the bishops and the Vatican gave all their trust to such a man. I think collusion in the evil teaching of the church on gay people makes strange bedfellow.

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  15. Is there a feeling that in a years time in the summer appointments of 2019 we might see Fr Sean Jones sent to "further studies" or "take sabbatical leave" when it becomes clear his ordination was wrong and that he just can't cope with the ordained life?

    Or we maybe proved wrong, and ordination has changed him, and that he will become the priest the church needs.

    Only time will tell. I question the decision to ordain him in the first place, but since it is now fact, he is a priest, the people of Tralee will just have to wait and see.

    When it comes to clergy, the laity have no input whatsoever at all in who they want, who they get and how they are treated. It will never change.

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    1. The Church of Ireland system has a lot go recommend it. Advertise position. Interview by committee including lat members Appoint.

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    2. "...the people of Tralee?

      More like the silverdaddies of Tralee will just have to wait and see.

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  16. Sean Jones is a straight man. He even had a girl friend before he went to Maynooth. He is a good holy priest who will lead many souls to God. Listowel parishioner.

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    1. 14.52 You are a mischief maker trying to provoke people to making comments. You just want people to take the bait

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    2. 14:52 Father Puck is a gay man. He has had boyfriends. He is a hole priest who will lead many to God knows where.Seminarian.

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    3. 15.16 and I take it you have had this conversation with the formation team and Bishop Browne …. Oh no the saying comes to mind it knows one to be one.
      Maybe you should consider your vocation and leave now because it is only matter of time before your number will be up.
      Archbishop Eamon Martin is on record he will cleanse the place.
      So Good luck Seminarian however it would suit you to do a decade of the Rosary for gossiping on this blog.
      Likely NOT a seminarian.

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    4. At Sean the innocent!

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  17. I know and like Sean Jones. He has many good points as well as bad. But he unsuitable for priesthood because of his times in the Pallotines and Maynooth and the companions he chose there. Our local bishop has handled this case very badly and has scandalized the priests by doing so. Sean Jones will not last. Kerry priest.

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    1. You are no more a Kerry Priest than my aunt Babe

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    2. What parish does Aunt Babe run ��

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    3. agree with 17:29. 'Our local bishop', who exactly describes their bishop in these terms. it made me giggle.

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    4. Scandalise a priest?!?! An oxymoron, surely.

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  18. Kerry Priest you will not have to worry as your Bishop does not think he will be in Kerry long he thinks he is going to be an Archbishop in a few years and not Dublin.
    Surely the Bishop being a Canon Lawyer would have got advice from his Diocesan advisors, Pallotines and the seminary formation team.
    father Jones humbly thinks he will be a PP and even a Bishop or some top position.
    As Bishop Ray said this blog is shocking I am sure he will be more shocked to read a Kerry Priest voices his opinion on it.

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    1. Ray Browne is a dreary, boring and unimaginative man. Have you ever had to sit through his excruciating homilies? He is indecisive, gullible and immature. Kerry's gain on losing him would be somewhere else's loss and suffering.

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    2. Football lad betrays much insight. Direct line with Ray. Knows Ray's intent. Above refers to the workings of the seminary council and gives out to a seminarian for commenting. Uses football in his user name... well Hello Donal O'Neill. Welcome to the blog. We're heard of you on here.

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    3. MourneManMichael16 July 2018 at 08:15

      Anon@17:35: Another one 'playing the 'bawl' (sic), this time: or the man? MMM

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    4. Normally I'd agree MMM, but in this case I'm highlighting inside knowledge that the poster is hiding. Donal is a particularly dangerous and abusive man who deserves exposing.

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  19. Fifteenth Sunday Of Ordinary Time.

    Collect: O God, who show the light of your truth to those who go astray, so that they may return to the right path, give all who for the faith they profess are accounted Christians the grace to reject whatever is contrary to the name of Christ and to strive after all that does it honour.

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    1. Merciful Lord! Can anyone interpret this convoluted verbiage? Does God, to whom such words are addressed, understand what the speaker is saying?

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  20. I didn’t realise until a few days ago on this blog that a priest once gave Buckley a good pasting in Belfast I think. Can someone give me the address of the priest so I can write to him and congratulate him and ask him could I watch him do it again.

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  21. 1822. Your threat of violence is disgraceful and is also a public order offence. Threatening to harm someone is well out of order. I am taking steps to try to trace your IP address to report you to the Police, unless of course you wish to save me the bother and tell us who you are now.

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    1. 18:42

      Just shows what an RC education leads to.

      It's great when they condemn themselves out of their own mouth.

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    2. Sad but true Pat.

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    3. 18.44: I'm not sure Pat what you mean by saying "this is what Catholic Education leads to...". Can you elucidate or is it just another cliched, throaway remarks of yours? Think so.

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    4. 18.42 I'm sorry but wait while I go outside and shit myself ie: my IP address.

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    5. 18.42 I read the post you refer to but there is no issue. There is doubt whether the attack on Pat happened in the first place as it's his word against the priest who I understand is now dead which further complicates things. Pat also didn't report the incident to the RUC as he's admitted before. So no case to answer.

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  22. Confession is good and soul cleansing, but it is important to find the right a Priest. A few years ago I went to a certain Church in Glasgow Ciry Centre and I was given a hard time and read the riot act by a Priest who was visiting to hear Confessions. Later on whilst sat in Church and as he left the confessional, I recognised him from a nearby sauna where I saw him the day before enter a cubicle with a younger man. I am presuming they must have been playing dominos or something in there as this couldn’t possibly be a Priest with double standards could it?

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    1. 18.47: Makey up or true? Anyone can say what they like about priests. What were you doing in the sauna? Playing tiddlywinks? Hardly.Mind your own business. As if going to confession gives you a right to judge.....hmm...hmm...hmm...

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    2. I was in the sauna looking for closeness and intimacy as I cannot out myself due to family pressure, I would be disowned. I am not however living a double life saying one thing and doing another. Fr xxxxxx is free to have sex with anyone he likes, male or female, but he does not have the right to preach to me that it is sinful and to tell me that I am a thorn in God’s side when he is at it himself!!! I think he was playing tiddly twinks rather than tiddly winks since you’re asking.

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    3. 19.30 More trash. Get back to your carry cot.

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    4. Not the city centre church confessional in Glasgow story yet again. You are a con artist and have been proven to be so in the past on this blog.

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    5. I’ve never been on here, so if someone else has with a similar story then it is obviously a regular occurrence. I am not condemning him for visiting a sauna, just for applying double standards. I’m no con artist mate.

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    6. I’ve checked back on the blog. The previous story was about the Cathedral in Glasgow. I was not referring to the Cathedral, I was at a Church close to the City Centre, not the Mother Church.

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    7. 1930 - another example of someone who won’t open their eyes about what’s going on. Open your eyes

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    8. I’m a serving a Priest in said Archdiocese and sadly, the blogger is most likely genuine. He is right about the double standards, but fortunately most of us are trying our best with just the occasional lapse. Be grateful for prayers please rather than criticism. I’m offering night prayer for 1847 and for everyone else who has been hurt by any Priest or Religious. I will especially remember Pat Buckley who we all know has been badly hurt and let down by the hierarchy.

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    9. 2008. This man is genuine. I live in Glasgow and I am a member of a LGBTI support group for RC’s. This is quite a common occurrence.

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    10. 19.30: You are one big liar. Mischief making at its most horrible and devious. You should be reported to police. You are a dangerous fool with that crap story. You are not credible. Think you need a few twinks in the sauna to make you a man!

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    11. Thanks 2109. I may not be credible to you, but I know what occurred. Last I checked, telling the truth wasn’t a crime. Re your twink comment - no thanks. Since that episode about four years ago, I have sought the necessary support to deal with my own sexuality issues and now I am out and very comfortable. Some but not all family
      support me. I was in the Pride March yesterday here in Glasgow. Not dressed up, just being myself and walking with my good friend. I know it is difficult for Priests, but we cannot have such double standards and hypocrisy and that is what Bishop Buckley is trying to eradicate. I don’t have the will or the time, I was just rather hoping that my contribution might help the debate. Pray for me as I will you. Sorry if I have upset you.

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  23. Pat et al. has anyone noticed that when making a comment on here a number of pop-ups appear?

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    1. Nothing popping up around here! (Barrhead, Glasgow).

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  24. Speaking of Scotland - who is the butch looking PP of St Pius Moorside in Glasgow who wears fiddlebacks. He had a young and rather overweight Westminster priest visiting him recently. The big queen had far too many gins and scotch pies.

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  25. There isn’t a St Pius Catholic Church in Glasgow mate and these is no area known as Moorside. I think you may be referring to the St Andrew’s Church, St Pius X order who love fiddlebacks.

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    1. You might be thinking of St Pius X Parish in Consett, Hexham & Newcastle Parish not a million miles away from Scotland. It’s priest is Fr John Bagnall recently ordained from the Beda College and a fan of fiddlebacks. The Beda is another den of iniquity and a cover up involving Vinny Nichols happened there 3-4 years ago involving a Westminster Seminarian (now a Priest) who should never have been ordained. The Sean Jones saga pales into insignificance when compared with this. Is this Controversial priest friends with Fr Bagnall in Consett I wonder? They are both ex Beda men.

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  26. +Pat, I hope you have a few more uplifting blogs soon; a charming new scandal from Mo'nooth, for example, or an update on the rogues' gallery.

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    1. 21:38 There is help available. Please don't feel you have to sort this alone.

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  27. Sean Jones has thr full support of he Clergy and people. He has repented before God, so he should be given a chance now and left alone. He seems to be a clever and pleasant young man. If half the people on this blog had their way, there would be no Priests. No Priests = no Mass! And of course everyone on here is so bloody perfect!

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    1. Of course there would be Mass without priests! The one and ONLY Mass took place 2000 years ago in the Upper Room: the Last Supper.

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  28. 21.38: Don't worry. Pat won't disappoint you. When he's back from lurking outside presbyteries with his camera, he'll "arouse" you hugely!!

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  29. Too many posts by Các Na Márta to be bypassed today.

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  30. MourneManMichael16 July 2018 at 08:13

    Anon @15:25 & 17:23: I drifted away from Catholicism about 50 years ago and living away from N. Ire never even thought about religious matter. In recent years now exposed to the pervasive almost dystopian N. Ire. preoccupation with religion parallel with worldwide revelations of clerical sexual abuse, duplicity and abuse of power and privilege I've become less tolerant of institutionalised religion and more outspoken concerning it. I see the range of those professing religious belief, at one extreme, from the moral, benign and altruistic often unquestioning follower to, at the other extreme those, especially the clergy, using religion as an a la carte vehicle for self indulgence, power and privilege. I make no apology for my intolerance of the latter and strive for balance in my criticism but appreciate I may not always get it right. MMM

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