tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post1445895389807010204..comments2024-03-12T19:57:41.861+00:00Comments on THINKING CATHOLICISM: NEW NUNCIO TO IRELANDThinking Catholicismhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comBlogger56125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-58427784584565231292017-05-16T23:00:05.063+01:002017-05-16T23:00:05.063+01:00Lourdes is already well known for its... well, let...Lourdes is already well known for its... well, let's just say: "facilities". The Gents for the rest of us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-80311965606840828772017-05-15T22:17:09.074+01:002017-05-15T22:17:09.074+01:00Wow... sense at last - well done TTWow... sense at last - well done TTAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-65602910532422870742017-05-15T15:54:17.430+01:002017-05-15T15:54:17.430+01:00I'd like to see you make me, anon @14:37! LOL....I'd like to see you make me, anon @14:37! LOL. <br /><br />Are you Maggie Carter per chance? <br /><br />You sound just like her :-DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-43223343947460886452017-05-15T14:37:00.333+01:002017-05-15T14:37:00.333+01:00You'll do what your told. This discussion is ...You'll do what your told. This discussion is for those who are able to keep up intellectually, not for people such as yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-36130494320089559612017-05-15T10:43:12.333+01:002017-05-15T10:43:12.333+01:00I will do no such thing. I am not interested in yo...I will do no such thing. I am not interested in your muddled musings and the murky waters in which you are clearly up to your neck! The only moral position of any relevance is what Our Lord Jesus Christ has revealed in the Sermon on the Mount. Period.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-66680676031685745082017-05-15T09:01:50.556+01:002017-05-15T09:01:50.556+01:00Thanks for that.Thanks for that.janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05480966555246917336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-16138793904921576482017-05-15T00:42:46.791+01:002017-05-15T00:42:46.791+01:00@20:49, perhaps you aren't used to hearing arg...@20:49, perhaps you aren't used to hearing arguments that aren't an echo of your own opinion? <br /><br />This absurd idea that a young priest should show a fondness for the insipid and saccharine sweet liturgy so beloved of the Spirit of Vatican 2 crowd, flouncing around in camp free flow vestments, where did you get that? <br /><br />Check out that absurd Vocations Sunday Mass on RTE and have a long hard think about why ANY young person would want to be anywhere near such a display of foolery. <br /><br />The YOUNG have zero interest in the modernised faddish church and that is why they are leaving in droves. Let's not confuse the preferences of the young with Past Their Sell By Date Spirit of Vatican 2 groupies.<br /><br />It is disturbing to see that so many commentators are so parochial that they are seemingly unaware that all over the world there is a huge growth in the traditional liturgy of the Church while the insipid modern rite dwindles.<br /><br />As Pat himself said in an earlier blog, the ONLY seminary he was aware of that did not have a homosexual sub-culture was Econe. And they ALL wear lace at Econe. <br /><br />So put a sock in it about the lace. It's pathetic. <br /><br />Tridentine Travis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-91288424212446219102017-05-15T00:41:25.492+01:002017-05-15T00:41:25.492+01:00So glad you want to be involved Big Hank. I look f...So glad you want to be involved Big Hank. I look forward very much to hearing your views as we all go forward together. I am interested in Ecumenism, Interspirituality and New Monasticism. :-) I love folk mass style music, some other modern church music as well as non conformist type hymns and Anglican as well as some catholic hymns and Gregorian chant / plainsong. I imagine I may have been more open to tridentine were it not that it's re-introduction, like it's invention post reformation, is the RC Churches erroneous belief in it's own sense of entitlement rather than engaging with Holy Spirits presence within the reformation and again today, with the laudable elements of secularism such as human rights and equality. I'm sure I might have found it beautiful and prayerful, but now I just view it as the velvet gloved heavy handed oppressive club, enjoying their gin parties paid for by the poor, sometimes very poor ordinary folks. If I had less integrity, I would wish to go back in time and tell my younger self to just stick with it, because it seems as long as you don't break the thirteenth commandment, or perhaps today, even if you do, ie "Thou Shalt Not Get Caught!" no problem, so long as you back up the embroidery and lace ad orientam, with their closed off sanctuaries and high pulpits! Three good meals a day, a better stocked drinks cabinet, larder and store room than I've ever had since, heating and all in a beautiful environment, that was my "Austere" religious life! I can tell you, I know something of austerity since and I know others that know more, a lot more than some priests and religious may ever know! Because if the coffers do contract, they'll sell off their Churches and the faithful remnant will have to travel further, rather than end the craic! <br /><br /> Sorry Big Hank, turned into a rant! Maybe you agree with all or some ..or none! Apologies to all those decent workers labouring in The Lord's Vineyard and thank you for all that you do! God Bless you and everyone! :-) Tom Woodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10935856847562775913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-40183641444827305982017-05-15T00:22:37.495+01:002017-05-15T00:22:37.495+01:00Let me also be extremely clear to you 20:52 - your...Let me also be extremely clear to you 20:52 - your morality and theological musings are of no interest to me whatsoever.<br /><br />This is a discussion about the theological underpinnings of the sexual moral ethic proposed by Pat. Your contribution is entirely irrelevant and of no interest. If you are uninterested to discover why certain people hold different moral positions to you, then at least have the courtesy to stand aside and spectate rather than muddy the waters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-89495453464256630372017-05-14T23:43:46.463+01:002017-05-14T23:43:46.463+01:00Kick his own height, can he? I am sure that could ...Kick his own height, can he? I am sure that could be very useful....if you were a mule! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-38351092107220283652017-05-14T23:34:44.154+01:002017-05-14T23:34:44.154+01:00None at all.. unless the lay person consents to gi...None at all.. unless the lay person consents to give away his own personal power. Think carefully about that. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-43443883883043089582017-05-14T23:30:10.024+01:002017-05-14T23:30:10.024+01:00Well there is enough screeching queens around Lour...Well there is enough screeching queens around Lourdes as we speak, we don't need another one. Late night Cafes rendezvous by screeching clergy scandalise the laity and the locals.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-61641098817483420612017-05-14T23:05:07.091+01:002017-05-14T23:05:07.091+01:00He can kick his height, apparently.He can kick his height, apparently.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-91312100626504872892017-05-14T22:55:54.447+01:002017-05-14T22:55:54.447+01:00He probably wears baby-dolls in bed too.He probably wears baby-dolls in bed too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-84523860213947795242017-05-14T22:52:27.701+01:002017-05-14T22:52:27.701+01:00He'll have his work cut out for him with Mayno...He'll have his work cut out for him with Maynooth... and, of course, he will fail like his predecessor. Next stop Baku, Azerbaijan for Jude.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-23733561844845539022017-05-14T22:36:51.614+01:002017-05-14T22:36:51.614+01:00And all this division just goes to prove the point...And all this division just goes to prove the point made yesterday.<br />People by there own natural drive may want different things. It was myself who posted tge congregation aspect this morning, not only to see the reactions but to tease out thought and the thought process of some individuals. Needless to say I am not surprised.<br /><br />Well as for myself Pat I have problem in offering you whatever assistance you may need with the new venture. This I do so freely wyithout any compulsion or expectations and difinitely for no glory. I would also realise that I may not be accepted by such a group due to my views nor I suppose would I be expected to join.<br />For example I am sure no one has considered the aspects of ecumenism or the protection of vulnerables etc etc as it hasn't featured in any of the comments. But hey at least I've said I'm prepared to help.<br /><br />Enjoy the good work Pat. Big Hankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00937603095036374725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-44340722556071487662017-05-14T22:18:59.545+01:002017-05-14T22:18:59.545+01:00Ah sure if talkin does ye good....scutter on!Ah sure if talkin does ye good....scutter on!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-38133390602770012752017-05-14T22:00:55.271+01:002017-05-14T22:00:55.271+01:00Any news on the new Abbot of Glenstal. He makes hi...Any news on the new Abbot of Glenstal. He makes his predecessor look positively butch.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-2542118909548903032017-05-14T21:41:22.857+01:002017-05-14T21:41:22.857+01:00Perhaps I am a pseudo Catholic. At the moment I am...Perhaps I am a pseudo Catholic. At the moment I am not doing anything for the parish. 6 years ago I was facing death and under 3 consultants, but I still went to church. Having been told I was lazy and suffered from false humility, I got very annoyed and told them to leave me alone. This summer my husband was in a bad road accident, suffered a broken neck and spine and again I was put under intense pressure. I have no desire to run the parish, but I am sick of being bullied. I have done 26years in the parish and 15 in a retreat centre. The trouble is if you show the slightest sign of intelligence, they never let go. Just how much power does the bishop have over a lay person?janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05480966555246917336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-21901649320382002122017-05-14T21:16:28.647+01:002017-05-14T21:16:28.647+01:00Ordering Gorgeous to be defagged will probably be ...Ordering Gorgeous to be defagged will probably be his first dictate of his Nunciature. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-1481268533608275882017-05-14T20:54:49.035+01:002017-05-14T20:54:49.035+01:00Ironic isn't it? One could hardly call the bi...Ironic isn't it? One could hardly call the big wavy modern vestments as anything approaching as masculine as a fiddleback. Check out that RTE Mass to see a feminised Vatican 2 Valerie liturgy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-80915715882087105542017-05-14T20:54:19.021+01:002017-05-14T20:54:19.021+01:00Let me be very clear to you, 19:53 - I follow Chri...Let me be very clear to you, 19:53 - I follow Christian morality as it is taught by the Church from Christ.<br /><br />Our Lord has condemned, in the Gospel, sexual immorality and promiscuity as among those 'evil things' that come from within the heart and make a person unclean. He has forbidden us to look at another with lust. His is the only morality that matters.<br /><br />There is no room in the seminary - much less the priesthood - for those who use Grindr etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-46105375143852232852017-05-14T20:52:52.556+01:002017-05-14T20:52:52.556+01:0017.25 I think you are just picking on this person ...17.25 I think you are just picking on this person because he happens to be MC to Eamon Martin. He laughs out loudly sometimes, he is a recent product of Maynooth, he dresses in lace and pre Vatican II Vestments and yes, he may be a bit camp but it's not all a crime you know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-59674455057041677152017-05-14T20:49:07.020+01:002017-05-14T20:49:07.020+01:0019.04 I have never heard such a ridiculous argumen...19.04 I have never heard such a ridiculous argument in all my life. I would prefer to see a Priest in free flowing vestments than swanning around dressed to the nines in frilly lacey numbers. What is that all about? For a young person to be doing it makes it even more bizarre.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-84021107398665965082017-05-14T20:16:12.799+01:002017-05-14T20:16:12.799+01:00I would hardly describe lace as masculine. I would hardly describe lace as masculine. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com