tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post1788479282622830994..comments2024-03-12T19:57:41.861+00:00Comments on THINKING CATHOLICISM: PRIEST SACKED FOR TELLING TRUTH!Thinking Catholicismhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comBlogger44125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-18801940803004024142017-09-02T13:35:52.008+01:002017-09-02T13:35:52.008+01:00So Frankie has seen a psychoanalyst
Hope it helpe...So Frankie has seen a psychoanalyst <br />Hope it helped him<br />Aren't Jesuits weirdly formed?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-67119676208147820622017-09-02T06:35:17.791+01:002017-09-02T06:35:17.791+01:00 22.46 Friday night. Yes, a simple question with l... 22.46 Friday night. Yes, a simple question with little usefulness behind it. Asked with one intention only - to generate gossip. Being serious about good people is beyond the capability of this blog. Your appetite for tabloid gossip is written all over your second comment. Stay in bed..or pray for this good man who had died.....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-59375889630269467982017-09-02T00:17:12.030+01:002017-09-02T00:17:12.030+01:0011:05, disagree with you, Bishop T. .11:05, disagree with you, Bishop T. .Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-2663191035951990502017-09-01T23:27:28.436+01:002017-09-01T23:27:28.436+01:00This is entirely incorrect, unless you are referr...This is entirely incorrect, unless you are referring to the position in the United States. <br /><br />In the UK and Ireland, the burden of proof is very definitely on the person who published a statement to show it is true. If they are unable to do so, the publisher is guilty of libel. <br /><br />The position is different in the United States, derived from first amendment rights, which do not apply in the UK or Ireland.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-75451156912019431832017-09-01T22:46:19.393+01:002017-09-01T22:46:19.393+01:0021.53 It was a simple question so therefore no nee...21.53 It was a simple question so therefore no need to get ones knickers in a twist! What is your answer besides sniping and carping on? Oh Yes, your only suggestion was, "He was a good man". Very extensive and original comment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-60068407975190273542017-09-01T21:53:58.653+01:002017-09-01T21:53:58.653+01:0020.35: The terse question asked by you suggests yo...20.35: The terse question asked by you suggests you've already made up your mind! "If any" - I suspect you coumdn't care a bit! May this good man, Cardinal Murphy O' Connor rest in peace. Respect for the dead is appropriate, not the gossip you seem to want. Wonder what your legacy - IF ANY - is to church, community or society!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-86429473115346378262017-09-01T20:35:34.700+01:002017-09-01T20:35:34.700+01:00I wonder what his legacy will be, if any?I wonder what his legacy will be, if any?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-34500776324631636292017-09-01T20:00:42.798+01:002017-09-01T20:00:42.798+01:00Many of his liberal cronies, mostly select ex stud...Many of his liberal cronies, mostly select ex students of his from the English College, who he appointed to the Episcopate will aĺl be in deep mourning. No doubt the wounded healer will be making his way over to London for the funeral.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-73622097618376713302017-09-01T19:19:02.397+01:002017-09-01T19:19:02.397+01:00Anon @ 17:40: you make an excellant point. All too...Anon @ 17:40: you make an excellant point. All too often discomfited "authority", even when allegations are found to be patently unfounded, engage in a surreptitious "fishing expedition", under the guise of thoroughness, to see what else they might be able to pin on the victim. This is especially true where whistleblowers have made revelations about incompetent management or authority.<br />MMMMourneManMichaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-51710982870236324882017-09-01T18:46:49.737+01:002017-09-01T18:46:49.737+01:00As a parishioner of st cadocs cambuslang not Fr Mo...As a parishioner of st cadocs cambuslang not Fr Morton's parish but nearby can I say that folks round here think Fr Morton was treated very shabbily. Rightly or wrongly that's how people think. Although to be fair to Bishop Toal he was appointed in the middle of it all if I remember right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-27310334612982904862017-09-01T18:46:04.851+01:002017-09-01T18:46:04.851+01:00In cases of alleged libel the burden of proof is o...In cases of alleged libel the burden of proof is on the one alleging libel.Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-47048711943010777652017-09-01T18:43:24.751+01:002017-09-01T18:43:24.751+01:00I think 15.30 should be completely ashamed of them...I think 15.30 should be completely ashamed of themselves instead of Pat for misinformation and misleading people. Yes, Fr Morton was cleared by the Police but he did NOT return to his Parish immediately as you claim. It took Bishop Toal and his cohort a further number of months before clearing Fr Morton before allowing him back almost one year later. They put this man through hell and when he was totally exonerated they patted him on the back and said you are a good priest and thank you for your ministry. They make me sick.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-56747780147390456072017-09-01T18:34:02.125+01:002017-09-01T18:34:02.125+01:00Neither has he any evidence to substantiate the al...Neither has he any evidence to substantiate the allegations. Monica Lewinski still had a dress that still bore a certain stain. Does Fr Despard have a soiled cassock, for example, or an under vestment? I wonder.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-26258472089699490962017-09-01T18:08:18.034+01:002017-09-01T18:08:18.034+01:00Nobody has yet established that Father Despard was...Nobody has yet established that Father Despard was TELLING LIES!Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-77669832080206712322017-09-01T17:40:07.895+01:002017-09-01T17:40:07.895+01:00Re 15.30
Paul Morton was cleared by the police inv...Re 15.30<br />Paul Morton was cleared by the police investigation and then by the procurator fiscal office in the month of April. It took the Catholic Church authorities a further 8 months to complete its investigation. This led to continued speculation about Fr Mortons situation while he was held in purdah. Furthermore it was rumoured that if he were to come back into the diocese that he would be assigned a different parish. Nobody from the diocese spoke one word to quieten these unjust and unfair rumours against a wholly innocent and good man. So apologist at 15.30 you would do well to remember that not only should justice be done but it should be done timorously. The length of time this man and his family and friends were kept waiting was unforgivableAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-52879154942382659492017-09-01T17:34:09.548+01:002017-09-01T17:34:09.548+01:00Why should people who are innocent have to resort ...Why should people who are innocent have to resort to the expense and trauma of suing someone? It's all the more disappointing coming from someone who supposedly is committed Christ's teaching. I don't remember the bit in the Gospel where Jesus said "It's okay if you tell lies about other people. They can always sue you."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-2999571056485756822017-09-01T16:46:42.715+01:002017-09-01T16:46:42.715+01:00Why did the priests he named not sue him if they w...Why did the priests he named not sue him if they were innocent?Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-41428002411665503402017-09-01T16:34:41.243+01:002017-09-01T16:34:41.243+01:00A comment makes asked who Fr Morton was. I simply ...A comment makes asked who Fr Morton was. I simply answered.<br /><br />I did not critise Toal for the Morton case.Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-11633811136155211992017-09-01T16:34:31.973+01:002017-09-01T16:34:31.973+01:00Big Cormac Murphy O Connor has died. RipBig Cormac Murphy O Connor has died. RipAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-90933787270144138142017-09-01T16:34:23.792+01:002017-09-01T16:34:23.792+01:00@12:02 I am only repeating what I remember reading...@12:02 I am only repeating what I remember reading connected with the scandal.<br /><br />However, more recently I read, to facilitate reinstatement, Fr Despard must fulfil certain requirements, including an apology to his brother priests and others alleged pooves he scandalised in the book.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-80354883046187208562017-09-01T15:30:35.921+01:002017-09-01T15:30:35.921+01:00Pat, you rightly place child protection at the cen...Pat, you rightly place child protection at the centre of your vision for any church. Your posting of the article concerning Fr Morton is therefore out of sync. It is the correct procedure in both Ireland and Scotland to remove a priest from his position if there is any allegation of abuse concerning children or vulnerable adults. This is what happened with Fr Morton. He was cleared of any wrongdoing by the pertinent agencies and returned to the parish immediately. <br />You should be ashamed of yourselves in bringing such a case into your criticism of Bishop Toal. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-66695360663099722962017-09-01T15:09:10.016+01:002017-09-01T15:09:10.016+01:00Father Paul Morton set to return to Cambuslang chu...<br /><br />Father Paul Morton set to return to Cambuslang church after being cleared by church probe into sex allegation<br /><br />Parishioners now hope to see priest back at St Bride's<br /><br />BY DOUGLAS DICKIE08:00, 31 DEC 2015UPDATED14:47, 29 DEC 2015<br /><br />Father Paul Morton could now return to St Bride's<br /><br />Parishioners at St Bride’s have expressed their delight at the possible return to the parish of Father Paul Morton.<br /><br />The Catholic Church confirmed last week it had completed its investigation into an allegation of historic sex abuse made against the priest.<br /><br />Father Morton was cleared by the police in April this year after an eight- month investigation but still faced a further probe by the church.<br /><br />Immediately after he was cleared, parishioners launched a petition calling for his return. It was eventually signed by over 2000 people.<br /><br />a { color: #000000 }body { margin: 0; <br />The Reformer understands that the church investigation is the second of three stages.<br /><br />A source said: “The first is the police investigation itself and then there is the church investigation.<br /><br />“That is now absolutely fine, but then there is a brief period of making sure he’s ok to return, mentally.<br /><br />“There’s no doubt though that a big, big hurdle has been cleared.”<br /><br />The news has been welcomed by church goers as well as his family.<br /><br />A message signed by his brothers and sisters said: “We also wish to offer our heartfelt thanks to all his friends in the parish and beyond who from day one have never doubted his innocence and sought justice on his behalf. We now await Paul’s return to his parish of St Bride’s.”<br /><br />In an additional statement to the Reformer, they added: “The family would like to add that Father Paul’s return to ministry is absolute proof and vindication of his total innocence of any wrongdoing.<br /><br />“Father Paul is a man of great spiritual and personal integrity and his return to St Bride’s will be welcomed by his parishioners, the wider Catholic Church and his many friends in other faith- based communities in the Cambuslang area.”<br /><br />One parishioner placed a Christmas decoration with a picture of Father Morton on it on the church’s Christmas tree before the evening service on December 24.<br /><br />And the Facebok group, Bring Back Fr Paul Morton to St Bride’s Cambuslang, posted a message saying: “Happy Christmas Father Paul Morton. God Bless you today and in the days ahead as we await your return with hope and joy in our hearts.”<br /><br />Church goer Kieran Dinwoodie told the Reformer: “The congregation is excited, relieved and hopeful. I think ‘hopeful’ is a very important word here.<br /><br />“We are hopeful we can get our priest back and let him come back to his parish and his community because that’s where he belongs.<br /><br />“While it’s been a hard time for everyone there’s a real need to focus on healing now.”<br /><br />Bishop Joseph Toal, of the Diocese of Motherwell, confirmed the canonical investigation had uncovered no evidence of wrongdoing.<br /><br />He added: “I acknowledge that this has been a long, painful time for Father Morton personally – facing such allegations has been a heavy cross to carry.<br /><br />“The parishioners of St Bride’s, his family and friends, and indeed the Diocesan community have found it difficult, and I thank you for the prayers and support offered for Father Morton. A good number of people have written to, or contacted me, through the period of Father Morton’s absence from St Bride’s and I acknowledge here these expressions of care and concern for your parish priest and friend. It is beneficial for me as Bishop to listen to the voice of the lay faithful in difficult situations.<br /><br />“It was Father Morton’s 30th anniversary as a priest earlier this year and I would like to take this opportunity to acknowledge the excellent service he has given to the Diocese of Motherwell, and to pray with him and those who have benefited from his priesthood that the years ahead may be richly blessed.”<br /><br />Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-10658667814847716262017-09-01T14:55:50.109+01:002017-09-01T14:55:50.109+01:00What was the Fr Paul Morton business?What was the Fr Paul Morton business?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-5952204053806934292017-09-01T14:39:03.442+01:002017-09-01T14:39:03.442+01:00A slap from the Vatican now for Toal and Co Red ... A slap from the Vatican now for Toal and Co Red faces all round. But nowhere near as red as they were in the aftermath of the Fr Paul Morton business. That showed how crack handed and inept Toal is. Mortons family, friends and many parishioners called Toal and the hierarchy of Motherwell Diocese out for what they are !! They poured shit all over Toal & Co and deservedly soAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-45607315844217720242017-09-01T13:13:38.503+01:002017-09-01T13:13:38.503+01:00These are interesting examples of 'smokescreen...These are interesting examples of 'smokescreen' deflections:<br />1. 'We're all sinners.'<br />2. 'You don't know all the facts.'<br />These deflections have been frequently used by bishops to people complaining about the behaviour of priests and merely serve to change the subject. In this case the focus of the comments has changed to Pat himself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com