tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post232093553398446233..comments2024-03-12T19:57:41.861+00:00Comments on THINKING CATHOLICISM: DIARMUID - ABSENCE - CHURCH - STATEThinking Catholicismhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-65707869272153075942017-07-12T18:49:28.455+01:002017-07-12T18:49:28.455+01:00Jane and Tom, please exchange mobile numbers so we...Jane and Tom, please exchange mobile numbers so we can be excused your rants about Cumbria, Lancashire on this blog. The diocese of Lancaster and its pathetic Bishop.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-32059710648831329252017-07-12T18:08:42.342+01:002017-07-12T18:08:42.342+01:00@15.23
Good reply to unhelpful anon 22:26.
I sinc...@15.23<br />Good reply to unhelpful anon 22:26.<br /><br />I sincerely encourage you to speak with Bishop Mark O'Toole in Plymouth. He is an understanding man and cares for priests and parishioners well. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-25190764780962394262017-07-12T15:23:31.752+01:002017-07-12T15:23:31.752+01:00Will you give me a job or roof over my head - grea...Will you give me a job or roof over my head - great! If not then don't bother commentating, your advice is the worst advice. It's great to feel secure and comment from a keyboard but it's not from my situation. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-90259308140701169812017-07-12T10:57:54.647+01:002017-07-12T10:57:54.647+01:00Someone said today - life's not easy, so alway...Someone said today - life's not easy, so always share compassion. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-58276170115418904212017-07-12T09:47:54.944+01:002017-07-12T09:47:54.944+01:00In my personal experience should I seek to change ...In my personal experience should I seek to change bishop I would speak to either Bishop Mark O'Toole (Plymouth) or Archbishop Stack (Cardiff). There is of course Bishop Pat Buckley too who's oratory is also a caring, faithful option. <br /><br />I wish you luck my struggling friend for today the Luke 9:1-4 is your Gospel passage. But don't so many flower buds look like the struggle before they blossom. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-92103004085989589332017-07-11T23:56:53.703+01:002017-07-11T23:56:53.703+01:00Hi 17:58, I cannot personally speak of Ampleforth ...Hi 17:58, I cannot personally speak of Ampleforth but if after 4 visits you very much want to join I would get in touch with the novice master and see what they advise. Remember that if that community doesn't suit there are other Benedictine houses and of course other orders and some people are becoming solitaries in their own homes and regular lives. I imagine your Bishop might be able to advise on that being consecrated. Again, at the end of the day, you could always look to start your own commune (ity) and look for others similarly interested. I imagine that might be much harder to get officially recognised, but there is nothing wrong with a group of men or women or mixed community attempting to live a holy life together and supporting themselves either by regular jobs or a joint venture. Check out the ecumenical / interspiritual Foundation For New Monasticism http://www.new-monastics.com/ for ideas / advice on either new forms or more traditional forms. With all good wishes and every blessing on the fruition of your vocation, wherever His voice leads!Tom Woodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10935856847562775913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-16874952228972719922017-07-11T22:26:34.007+01:002017-07-11T22:26:34.007+01:0021.52
Just leave, u are not happy in your job...so...21.52<br />Just leave, u are not happy in your job...sorry to call it a job,but in reality it is.<br />Contact Fr pat if all else fails<br />Just leave and do something else<br />You not the first and certainly not the lastAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-47156677118685204042017-07-11T22:18:38.759+01:002017-07-11T22:18:38.759+01:00Thanks Magna! (nice to hear from you - -) Yes, you...Thanks Magna! (nice to hear from you - -) Yes, you're right about my parable and as you say, they are never universally applicable but maybe give a little food for thought.. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-74973401237521990262017-07-11T21:52:02.560+01:002017-07-11T21:52:02.560+01:00Thank you for your very kind reply 21.21. You wil...Thank you for your very kind reply 21.21. You will find in my situation and predicament that you have no support. When you have a tyrannical Bishop who has Priests afraid to speak out then you're on a hiding to nothing. Loss of earnings, loss of home, loss of any funds, loss of support because fellow Priests are afraid to upset the Bishop. Basically on the dung heap. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-41334788129922099032017-07-11T21:45:19.341+01:002017-07-11T21:45:19.341+01:00You're a parable-teller, aren't you? And I...You're a parable-teller, aren't you? And I see your point. It's a good one, but perhaps not universally applicable.Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-58490861809240231742017-07-11T21:44:28.139+01:002017-07-11T21:44:28.139+01:00Thank you for that but I wouldn't consider the...Thank you for that but I wouldn't consider the Bishop in Birmingham and as for the one in Liverpool I wouldn't touch with a barge pole. I'm sorry to say that, I just know many Priests in both Dioceses and these dioceses would be off my radar from experience and from what I hear, particularly Liverpool. Thank you all the same.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-1397387460524290702017-07-11T21:21:17.754+01:002017-07-11T21:21:17.754+01:0019:22
I feel really badly for you. Do you at least...19:22<br />I feel really badly for you. Do you at least have the support of colleagues to help you get through?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-27724348493599261382017-07-11T21:07:04.363+01:002017-07-11T21:07:04.363+01:00The archbishop of Birmingham. I have also heard go...The archbishop of Birmingham. I have also heard good thinks about the archbishop of Liverpool.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-21600714231859538632017-07-11T20:47:41.449+01:002017-07-11T20:47:41.449+01:00@17.58 (I am not Tom Wood..)
You were enquiring t...@17.58 (I am not Tom Wood..) <br />You were enquiring to find out someone else's opinion or experience of Ampleforth.. <br />I wonder what your response to the man in this story would be? - - - The man was standing outside a highly respected men's retailers store in town and was carefully studying a well -<br />made tailored outfit on display in the window. A business man came out of the shop and noticed his interest in the suit. The business man paused briefly and said to him "-Wouldn't be any use to you.. I've already tried it on. Looks great, but it doesn't fit!" <br />"Oh thanks," said the first man, "that's what I wanted to know," <br />and without another glance, he hurried off... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-57001965576311843222017-07-11T20:15:36.955+01:002017-07-11T20:15:36.955+01:00Read tomorrow's blog :-)Read tomorrow's blog :-)Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-7131662623804373862017-07-11T19:44:57.061+01:002017-07-11T19:44:57.061+01:00Are you marching tomorrow Buckley with your orange...Are you marching tomorrow Buckley with your orange friends? Larne is probably the best place to be on the 12th. You should set up a tea tent and capatilise on the whole shindig.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-19357970210071580582017-07-11T19:22:26.692+01:002017-07-11T19:22:26.692+01:00Does anyone from personal experience know any Iris...Does anyone from personal experience know any Irish or UK Bishop who is kindly to his Priests and cares for them. I'm in the process of wanting to leave my present diocese because the Bishop is frankly rather a horrible man. I'm not going into detail about my present diocese or situation, that would be unfair. I am a Priest in very good standing with no baggage. Any realistic feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-56406541824935593602017-07-11T18:22:33.220+01:002017-07-11T18:22:33.220+01:00Dermo sometimes looks at his Priests as if they we...Dermo sometimes looks at his Priests as if they were something on the end of his shoe. I'm not surprised morale among the Clergy in Dublin is relatively low. The laity don't always see this side of him but if you attend any clergy gathering it's very obvious and not pleasant. The man is unhappy, doesn't want to be in charge of Dublin, doesn't even want to be physically in Dublin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-73518500404030000952017-07-11T18:17:38.821+01:002017-07-11T18:17:38.821+01:00Thank You Jane, bless you. :-)Thank You Jane, bless you. :-)Tom Woodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10935856847562775913noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-24109722677028021942017-07-11T17:58:39.612+01:002017-07-11T17:58:39.612+01:00Hey Tom Wood, do you have an information on Ample...Hey Tom Wood, do you have an information on Ampleforth, I have visted 4 times now and i am seriously considering joining the community/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-59671317438740948692017-07-11T17:50:38.983+01:002017-07-11T17:50:38.983+01:00Interesting points on reform;
Elect a bishop, jus...Interesting points on reform; <br />Elect a bishop, just like an Abbott, part-time priests, just like Marionite Catholics, women preachers, just like female electors, married priests, just like the early church, women deacons, arguably these too existed in the early church. - all have easy precedents bringing us back to our early roots... makes a man wonder why the Church is so against such reforms (probably the Corrupt Cabal of Rome).<br /><br />But I must object to your statement on the last two Bishops. Bishop Patrick found a diocese in financial chaos with huge debt and hemoraging finances. He restructured and reformed and but for him the diocese would be bankrupt and you'd be buying memorabilia of St. Walburgs from the receivers. Bishop Michael, I left Cumbria shortly after he arrived so I cannot comment - Except to say he tried something at least. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-64661036750223894732017-07-11T16:34:11.677+01:002017-07-11T16:34:11.677+01:00It is a beautiful building, as is St Walbergs. It ...It is a beautiful building, as is St Walbergs. It is better than it being demolished. IKCSP is not my personal taste. Society is moving rapidly and leaving the church behind. We were in crisis 26 years ago and now we are dangling over a cliffe. The last two bishops have sent us back to the dark ages. The present bishop brought in the Sisters of Mercy from Alma Michigan for evangelization. Totally unsuitable for Lancashire. There was a huge row and he was forced to withdraw them. We are waiting for a new bishop. He may be too little too late. I feel sorry for the good priests we have I suspect the bishops have been foul with them. I am lucky I have a lot of very high class theology in my book case. I can paddle my own canoe. I think most of the clergy will be horrified. Cardinal Burke called into see them a couple of years ago and met up with Bishop Michael. Reform of the church should have stated at least 50 years ago. Bishops should be elected for a 5year period. Priests should be allowed to marry. They should have the same human rights as everyone else. Part time priests who work during week should be trained to say mass. Women should be able to at least become deacons and preachers. The only feeling I have for the church is anger. Preston used to be 40% catholic, partly because we missed out on the reformation and partly because of Irish immigrants. Preston means priest town. The lamb of God in the town emblem with 'p p' underneath...Prince of Peace. One of the main streets is called Friargate. All the schools are named after the Lancashire martyrs. The church has destroyed itself with its lying arrogant bullying behaviour.... and yet I believe in every heart there is gap that only God can fill. It is a seismic shift.Janenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-4702359660155856462017-07-11T15:42:57.004+01:002017-07-11T15:42:57.004+01:00It's become very apparent that DM enjoys spend...It's become very apparent that DM enjoys spending time in places as long as it's not in Dublin. He has a disregard for most of his clergy and the Archdiocese as a whole. He favours the few and seems to be protective of his gay clergy. He has been moving Clergy around at present but has the arrogance not to publish these changes. DM has also showed arrogance and disgust to someone who dared to ask him about these changes. How the hell did anyone recommend him to be Archbishop of Dublin? It is they who have to answer some serious questions. DM's legacy will be failure, especially failure to give and show leadership, leaving behind a totally demoralised clergy. It will be as a result of spending more time outside the Archdiocese than within it, it will be failure to deal with the Gaynooth scandal. It will also be his publicity stunt in sending/rewarding people like Gorgeous and Gannon to Rome. The list goes on .......Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-21069249769410290322017-07-11T14:53:58.253+01:002017-07-11T14:53:58.253+01:00I think the Penal Laws were horrific.
I think Cat...I think the Penal Laws were horrific.<br /><br />I think Catholic laws that discriminated against Protestants were bad too.<br /><br />All religious discrimination is an evil thing Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-22156043244649416782017-07-11T14:40:15.679+01:002017-07-11T14:40:15.679+01:00You have some tint in your glasses. I suppose you ...You have some tint in your glasses. I suppose you think the penal laws were perfectly legitimate? Cop on to yourself with your idiotic understanding of history.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com