tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post4063879490734158491..comments2024-03-12T19:57:41.861+00:00Comments on THINKING CATHOLICISM: MAYNOOTH - FATHER PAUL PRIORThinking Catholicismhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-49568316146634760392016-09-08T18:19:51.195+01:002016-09-08T18:19:51.195+01:0012:24 thats blasphemy!
A fatwah will be issued fo...12:24 thats blasphemy! <br />A fatwah will be issued forthwith.<br /><br />Mullah McFenianAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-29536232245570762772016-09-08T12:24:52.820+01:002016-09-08T12:24:52.820+01:00Christ and St Paul were anal then too.Christ and St Paul were anal then too.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-50524118793009322152016-09-08T11:00:42.460+01:002016-09-08T11:00:42.460+01:00Pat, don't be taken in by that commentator at ...Pat, don't be taken in by that commentator at 16:52 on Sept 7th. <br /><br />I would say that is just one of the Gaynooth goons trying a different tactic - sweet talk - something they are good at with their pretty boys. <br /><br />Don't be fooled. <br /><br />For all you know it could be Fanny, or her close friend and confidante - Timo, or The Dog Ate Me Homework, or even the Wounded Healer herself, gushing out such unctuous concern. <br /><br />They really do think people are stupid. Guess what girlies? .... We have ye sussed. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-88104580460387885732016-09-08T10:51:28.551+01:002016-09-08T10:51:28.551+01:0007.28 & 09.42. You really do need to get out i...07.28 & 09.42. You really do need to get out in the fresh air a bit more. You are, to put it mildly, a bit anal!<br />Simple SimonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-85071110093594037392016-09-08T10:20:27.694+01:002016-09-08T10:20:27.694+01:00Cardinal Brady promised that he would step down if...Cardinal Brady promised that he would step down if it was found that he was in any way implicated in the sexual scandals. It was found that he was so in the cover-up of that MONSTER Fr Brendan Smyth. Instead of stepping down Brady hung on to power for dear life.<br /><br />How are we meant to trust the judgment or word of such an obstinate, obdurate and insincere man?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-14232300005767174042016-09-08T09:44:00.301+01:002016-09-08T09:44:00.301+01:00Looks like we know now who was behind the attempte...Looks like we know now who was behind the attempted shutdown of the blog!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-85231586037682588932016-09-08T09:42:38.416+01:002016-09-08T09:42:38.416+01:00A wise Dominican once told this writer, that once ...A wise Dominican once told this writer, that once the vice of sodomy has contaminated a seminary, Church authorities have only two options - close the place down and send everyone home or do nothing and simply wait for the moral rot to spread until the foundation collapses on its own. Why is this particular vice so deadly to the religious life? <br /><br />According to St. Peter Damian, the vice of sodomy "surpasses the enormity of all others," because:<br /><br />"Without fail, it brings death to the body and destruction to the soul. It pollutes the flesh, extinguishes the light of the mind, expels the Holy Spirit from the temple of the human heart, and gives entrance to the devil, the stimulator of lust. It leads to error, totally removes truth from the deluded mind ... It opens up hell and closes the gates of paradise ... It is this vice that violates temperance, slays modesty, strangles chastity, and slaughters virginity ... It defiles all things, sullies all things, pollutes all things ... <br /><br />"This vice excludes a man from the assembled choir of the Church ... it separates the soul from God to associate it with demons. This utterly diseased queen of Sodom renders him who obeys the laws of her tyranny infamous to men and odious to GodÖ She strips her knights of the armor of virtue, exposing them to be pierced by the spears of every vice ... She humiliates her slave in the church and condemns him in court; she defiles him in secret and dishonors him in public; she gnaws at his conscience like a worm and consumes his flesh like fire. ... this unfortunate man (he) is deprived of all moral sense, his memory fails, and the mind's vision is darkened. Unmindful of God, he also forgets his own identity. This disease erodes the foundation of faith, saps the vitality of hope, dissolves the bond of love. It makes way with justice, demolishes fortitude, removes temperance, and blunts the edge of prudence. (emphasis added) <br /><br />"Shall I say more?" [43]<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-23160749538011175682016-09-08T07:28:25.693+01:002016-09-08T07:28:25.693+01:00I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with ...I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with immoral men; not at all meaning the immoral of this world, or the greedy and robbers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But rather I wrote to you not to associate with any one who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or robber—not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? God judges those outside. “Drive out the wicked person from among you.” (1 Cor 5:9-13 RSV)<br /><br />In the above passage from Sacred Scripture St Paul clearly states that those who persistently cause scandal in the Church need to be removed for the good of their own souls and the souls of other believers.<br /><br />He also chides and scolds the Corinthians in the previous verses for their excessive tolerance in putting up with sexual immorality: <br /><br />It is actually reported that there is immorality among you, and of a kind that is not found even among pagans; for a man is living with his father’s wife. And you are arrogant! Ought you not rather to mourn? Let him who has done this be removed from among you. (1 Cor 5:1-2 RSV)<br /><br />It is clear from God's Word that the Irish Bishops are acting in a most arrogant and reckless fashion by not taking decisive action on the negligent - at best - Maynooth Seminary Council, and those Deacons and seminarians that are causing interminable scandal and outrage in the Irish Church.<br /><br />One is beginning to wonder how much longer this can go on for and what exactly goes on in the Bishops' heads? St Paul calls for the removal of a lay person from the Church because of grave sexual sins - how would he react toward the rampant scandal-causers among the ranks of the clergy and seminarians in Maynooth? He would clear the place out - that's what he would do!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-81389734485331535352016-09-08T01:01:45.775+01:002016-09-08T01:01:45.775+01:00If they think they can get away with it, there are...If they think they can get away with it, there are a number of cautionary tales - of bishops and cardinals - who also thought they wouldn't be caught...... But they did get caught.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-51117838550172771942016-09-07T23:17:52.784+01:002016-09-07T23:17:52.784+01:00Most of them have slept their way to the top.Most of them have slept their way to the top.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-26531539157201346892016-09-07T21:18:10.099+01:002016-09-07T21:18:10.099+01:0020:36 you have hit the nail on the head.20:36 you have hit the nail on the head.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-3776515129421675182016-09-07T20:36:30.790+01:002016-09-07T20:36:30.790+01:00The trustees and bishops won't budge because o...The trustees and bishops won't budge because of a number of factors.<br /><br />Firstly, more and more people are beginning to wonder if they all have each other by the goolies. "You tell on me and I will tell on you" - kind of scenario. <br /><br />It seems increasingly likely that some of higher-ups and very-higher-ups have been "at it" too!<br /><br />Second major factor is sheer arrogance and stubborn pride. This obstinacy goes right up to the feet of that gobshite, the "wounded healer", big aunty Sally Brady, who determinedly promotes and sticks by, come hell or high water, the nancy boys who lick his big fat arse in the hope of preferment and promotion.<br /><br />Their obstinate pride, however, will lead to their ruination. Watch that space.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-33457888455888447312016-09-07T20:00:17.555+01:002016-09-07T20:00:17.555+01:00Well one would always remain dissaluisoned with th...Well one would always remain dissaluisoned with the Church if the priests and Bishops did not recognize that by virtue of a male or female baptism that they are called to serve and ministry in the church and are disciples and ministers as much as the onec who gets Chrism poured on their hand at priestly ordination. Where we not all anoited with chrism too on the day of our Baptism on our hands and forehead and called to service in the Church.Happy Harry 2016https://www.blogger.com/profile/01940113939356568306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-89882204383197692402016-09-07T19:48:45.665+01:002016-09-07T19:48:45.665+01:00That article hits the nail on the head! Have any ...That article hits the nail on the head! Have any bishops read it? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-21679913366618160802016-09-07T19:17:32.049+01:002016-09-07T19:17:32.049+01:00Maynooth: reviewing the response from the trustees...Maynooth: reviewing the response from the trustees - Anthony Murphy.<br />Although I'm not a follower of Catholic Voice I think that this is a very well researched and balanced article. I'm surprised that no one has responded to it - it being the main part of the blog so far. The article asks and answers the many questions I myself have been asking about this sorry Maynooth Seminary debacle. It is easy but SO dishonest and disingenuous of Maynooth trustees to blame the media, the blog, or the supposedly disgruntled ex-seminarians for the situation. The trustees [current AND former] need to take responsibility for their own action or inaction, as do many of Maynooth Seminary's current formation staff. <br />Is it any wonder the laity is disillusioned?? <br />Gernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-28375798611576441882016-09-07T19:00:16.366+01:002016-09-07T19:00:16.366+01:00If the current Seminary Council in Maynooth were r...If the current Seminary Council in Maynooth were removed and replaced with genuine, holy, orthodox priests, St Pat's would have at least 200 seminarians within 5 years - guaranteed. <br /><br />Why do we never hear of endless streams of scandals coming from the Dominicans, who are doing very well with vocations relative to Maynooth and other orders based in Ireland? I tell you why: because they have inspiring, sincere priests in charge of formation and working as vocation directors; they make sure candidates are genuine vocations who are not just tagging along for the "ride" (no pun intended). Their formation process is permeated with a genuine Catholic spirituality and academics. I have met many of their seminarians and recently ordained priests; and I can vouch with surety that they are excellent seminarians/priests being formed/formed after the heart of the Church.<br /><br />Unless the management team in Maynooth is replaced, I for one will be continuing to warn young, genuine men away from that dying seminary.<br /><br />And Pat, keep up the good work in exposing the filth in Maynooth. You have the support of every genuine Catholic/Christian in Ireland.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-48926759685047560022016-09-07T19:00:03.884+01:002016-09-07T19:00:03.884+01:00On a more mundane matter. My local curate was in m...On a more mundane matter. My local curate was in maynooth along with fr prior. Fr priors main claim to fame was his fabulous hairstyle. Much speculation went into how he could afford all that hairspray. Nowadays we would naturally worry more about the environmental damage caused.cavan man Fr prior was plucked out of obscurity by the cavan cardinal and wounded healer sean brady and inflicted on the irish college in Rome. His appointment seems to be a case of jobs for the boys. Fr prior had no experience, no qualifications and seemingly no ability. Worse than that, if certain seminarians are to be believed he comes across as a bit of a creep. Do you remember those old priests who would quiz you in great detail about sins of the flesh but ignore other and probably more serious faults? Modern irish priests have their faults but most don't terrorise their flocks with threats of hellfire for impurity as in former days.it would appear sadly that the old voyeuristic manipulation of young men's consciences continues in St Patricks college.<br />Is this officially sanctioned by the Bishops? Yes or no? Nualahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391023257204281986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-4551011345941482752016-09-07T18:51:37.971+01:002016-09-07T18:51:37.971+01:00I hope I will never be selfrighteous. I have nothi...I hope I will never be selfrighteous. I have nothing to be selfrighteous about. Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-17935937502675756952016-09-07T18:51:33.037+01:002016-09-07T18:51:33.037+01:00Keep going Pat. This blog is therapy for me. I am ...Keep going Pat. This blog is therapy for me. I am sick of the clergy demanding that I deny the evidence of my own eyes. You see it, the way I see it. You are needed.��Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-75129282156566444252016-09-07T18:36:44.139+01:002016-09-07T18:36:44.139+01:00The AB Martin Dublin is off to Lourdes. I assume f...The AB Martin Dublin is off to Lourdes. I assume from the pro cathedral newsletter that the Canon has gone to Lourdes to. Is Georgeous Deacon Michael gone too or did they handcuff him to a bed in the Irish College in Rome. I bet Canon would have a Tissy fit or should I say a dick fit if he didnt travel along and where id Chris Derwin ?. Balbriggan or ?. DM very slow letting his priest appointments been made public so far this Summer. Happy Harry 2016https://www.blogger.com/profile/01940113939356568306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-53339434921641575742016-09-07T18:21:51.621+01:002016-09-07T18:21:51.621+01:00Last Sunday week I attended evening mass at the pr...Last Sunday week I attended evening mass at the pro cathedral. Canon o reilly in the middle of an insipid muddled homily denounced (quoting pope francis) "the terrorism of gossip".I wonder who that was aimed at? <br />I think the remarks went way over the heads of those present. <br />No pat. You are not a terrorist. You are a prophetic voice. As you know the biblical prophets were figures who told the truth, denounced evil and called people back to the love of God. <br />They usually got a hard time, were persecuted and sometimes exiled.<br />I think though it can be dangerous being a prophet. It demands integrity. Not easy. It demands using power with mercy<br /> This blog is very popular and powerful.<br />A prophet can become hard and self righteous as our Lord pointed out numerous times to the clergy of his day. <br />Continue to be a barb to the pointy hats. Nualahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07391023257204281986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-17226321671336116812016-09-07T17:41:02.659+01:002016-09-07T17:41:02.659+01:00How strange your comments were removed. You are ri...How strange your comments were removed. You are right in saying court is the place to sort defamation. Alleged defamation implies alleged guilt or as me mammy might say there's no alleged fire without alleged smoke. Get the buggers to put the content back there is a principle at stake. There is also the human interest angle of church welfare is in the interest of allFly on Th Wallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12520198020314816276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-44253867688480631592016-09-07T17:40:33.054+01:002016-09-07T17:40:33.054+01:00A lot of people want you to stop this blog because...A lot of people want you to stop this blog because their scared. They know the truth will come out eventually. I am not hitting back at anon 16.52 in any way. But I believe Pat justice will be given to those who have suffered at the hands of the cowards of Maynooth and the Spineless Cowards who call themselves Bishops of the Irish conference. Keep seeking the truth about Maynooth and those abusing their power in the Church. I support you very much and please keep up your great work here. Prayers, strength and good health to you Pat. Happy Harry 2016https://www.blogger.com/profile/01940113939356568306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-76735077688577969272016-09-07T17:18:31.224+01:002016-09-07T17:18:31.224+01:00Anon at 16:52. Are you Timo?Anon at 16:52. Are you Timo?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-48037251081879912432016-09-07T17:18:12.055+01:002016-09-07T17:18:12.055+01:00I really do appreciate the concern you show for me...I really do appreciate the concern you show for me in your comment :-)<br /><br />But I need to reassure you that the Blog has not taken over my life.<br /><br />I do write it early in the morning - except on Sundays when I am preparing for Mass.<br /><br />I really have not become addicted to the Blog. In ways it is a burden.<br /><br />But for the last 30 years I feel that my life is about challenging all that is wrong / evil in the RC system.<br /><br />At the same time of course I have, thanks to God, kept a strong Christian faith.<br /><br />My days are quite full of other things - answering the telephone, meeting callers, meeting couples who want to marry, celebrating marriages, a lot of non professional counselling and spiritual direction that includes many lay people and a small number of priests.<br /><br />Why would I not publish your comment?<br /><br />It is pregnant with positive love and concern. <br /><br />I will certainly give everything you have said deep thought.<br /><br />I wish all the criticism I receive was as constructive as yours :-)<br /><br />Pat Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.com