tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post4149848950141418917..comments2024-03-12T19:57:41.861+00:00Comments on THINKING CATHOLICISM: ANOTHER BISHOP - ANOTHER "GOON"?Thinking Catholicismhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comBlogger83125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-54993791344714265032016-09-28T16:21:39.738+01:002016-09-28T16:21:39.738+01:0000.49
How long did it take you to arrive at that c...00.49<br />How long did it take you to arrive at that conclusion?<br />Perhaps someone is putting powdered caustic soda on his cornflakes instead of sugar.<br />He is in urgent need of care, attention and re-habilitation before being permitted entry (if not re-entry) into the human race - <br />Would gladly help.<br />Is there a qualified MD who can give an adequate diagnosis - and is it possible that there is any hope for a favourable prognosis?<br />Pip & Sam Fan Club - getting bigger - have passed Donald Trump in the polls!<br /><br />.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-9548083864520757722016-09-28T13:27:39.306+01:002016-09-28T13:27:39.306+01:00"But would the policeman's action be lovi..."But would the policeman's action be loving of the enemy: the would-be bomber?" Dame Maggie Carta. <br /><br />Sure, just like when he said to call no one a "fool", maybe Jesus was only speaking figuratively about all that love business, you twat? No? :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-319555977004037072016-09-28T10:39:33.863+01:002016-09-28T10:39:33.863+01:00What did disgust you about the 'dirty rotten s...What did disgust you about the 'dirty rotten system 17.30?<br />What was dirty and rotten?<br />We have a good priest who take good care of this parish in every sense - frequent if not a daily to the hospitals, excellent care of the sick. Knows every man, woman, child, car dog and doll in the place! We have a fully operational pastoral council and a completely informed (and listened to) finance committee.<br />Most of our parishes seem to be operating well.<br />This morning's gospel mentions '.... Once you put your hand to the plough you do not look back.' I would never blame anyone for leaving the priesthood or religious life since it is Impossible to work with a broken plough ... However if your plough was not broken I would like to know what you mean by the 'dirty, rotten system' - so that if there is something fundamentally wrong it might be fixed.<br />Could our priest be doing so well since - as far as bishops, VGs etc are concerned - he tells me he avoids them like the plague.<br />Pip and Sam Fan,<br />Still,a lot f good out thereAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-35494577566468322062016-09-28T00:49:21.131+01:002016-09-28T00:49:21.131+01:00Magna Carta at 13:37 - I have come to the conclusi...Magna Carta at 13:37 - I have come to the conclusion that you are a particularly nasty, moronic and poisonous little piece of work. Right back atcha. Cheerio.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-72813748425068142772016-09-27T20:41:13.615+01:002016-09-27T20:41:13.615+01:00Thank you Anon @ 17:30, 27/9. Much appreciated.
I ...Thank you Anon @ 17:30, 27/9. Much appreciated.<br />I left seminary just before sub-diaconate in 1967, and kept up RC observances for about three years after, largely due to the sensible ministry of Jesuit University chaplain. It was more his warm intelligent manner and practice than any 'preaching or teaching'. Afterwards I gradually drifted away as the cultural tribal ties diminished while living and working in England to point where religious requirements became seen as utterly meaningless. (As opposed to the requirements to lead an ethical life following what I later learned was the Golden Rule) The idea of there being a creative deity personally involved or interested in earth's happenings just became more unbelieveable.<br />Only about five years ago I 'discovered' Humanism: a Eureka moment, to find that there is indeed a coherent belief system outside creationism.<br />So 'Good without God', while being a Humanist tradition, is also very much my modus vivendi<br />Keep posting those interesting comments.<br />MMMMourneManMichaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-26279784281735221972016-09-27T17:30:42.932+01:002016-09-27T17:30:42.932+01:00Off topic, but Mourne Man Michael commented on a c...Off topic, but Mourne Man Michael commented on a contribution I made in the last blog, first comment. Thanks for your complimentary tone as I value your numerous and sensible contributions. I don't know whether you are a Christian, agnostic, atheist or whatever but I salute the respect you show other contributors and the obvious quest for truth which we all share irrespective of belief or tradition. In my opinion, you are a man of good will which by the way the rc church keeps addressing its thoughts to. I btw am a former priest who got so disgusted by the 'dirty rotten system' (not my words but Dorothy Day's whose supporters include Pope Francis) that I left and got married like most normal, mortal, ordinary folk. keep me in your prayers and thoughts. I still strive to be a good Christian despite the fact that many have written me off as a defector and judas. Hard words i know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-52177203409151439972016-09-27T14:07:23.713+01:002016-09-27T14:07:23.713+01:0013:35, thank you for that wonderful, backhanded co...13:35, thank you for that wonderful, backhanded compliment.Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-13710202448509677612016-09-27T13:37:54.776+01:002016-09-27T13:37:54.776+01:00Oh, I don't think my sarcasm is wasted on you:...Oh, I don't think my sarcasm is wasted on you: I think every missile was bang on target. (You're a glutton for punishment, aren't you?)<br /><br />And Jesus called us to imitate his example, didn't he? So calling someone like you fool (or any of its verbal equivalents, e.g. dickhead, ass, moron, etc) can't be a damnable offence, now can it? Which means (have you managed to work this out for yourself?) that he was speaking FIGURATIVELY about the eternal punishment for that word. Isn't that great news? Cos I can now call you 'pratt', 'asshole', 'prick', etc with complete moral impunity...provided I was telling the truth (which, of course I would be).Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-67499807881086933122016-09-27T13:35:26.549+01:002016-09-27T13:35:26.549+01:00An awful pity Downton Abbey series came to a close...An awful pity Downton Abbey series came to a close. Maggie would have made a great character: Dame Margaret Carter, Dowager Duchess of Diddlesberry, whose acid tongue did every servant dread. LolAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-68729669327247578242016-09-27T13:25:06.990+01:002016-09-27T13:25:06.990+01:00But would the policeman's action be loving of ...But would the policeman's action be loving of the enemy: the would-be bomber?Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-39236249768776434342016-09-27T13:08:18.051+01:002016-09-27T13:08:18.051+01:00Sorry, Mags, "old girl", but use of the ...Sorry, Mags, "old girl", but use of the death penalty as an option may always need to be in place in the case of those who are intrinsically dangerous to society. For example, a policeman has the chance to take out a suicide bomber before he kills scores of people. The most "loving" thing to do is stop him killing all those innocent people.<br /><br />In any case, the Catholic Church TODAY does not advocate the death penalty but actively discourages it. Nowadays, there is no necessity for the death penalty as the penal system is mostly pretty secure and effective in protecting society.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-33252486967745061122016-09-27T13:05:36.583+01:002016-09-27T13:05:36.583+01:00I'm a sweet little poodle. Really.I'm a sweet little poodle. Really.Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-45250378497799705032016-09-27T13:00:51.183+01:002016-09-27T13:00:51.183+01:00Your pantomime dame/ugly sister attempts at wither...Your pantomime dame/ugly sister attempts at withering sarcasm are wasted on me, Mags ;-)<br /><br />Jesus said: "Anyone who calls his brother a fool shall answer for it in hell fire". The Creator is not bound by the rules He makes binding on the creatures. If Jesus calls someone "fool", He can do so. Unlike us, God is not answerable. We, however, have no such right.<br /><br />Of course I know that, once upon a time, Popes employed executioners. It was the norm throughout society.<br /><br />And seeing as you are such a biblical literalist on the this particular subject, can you provide chapter and verse where Jesus expressly mentioned and forbade the death penalty?<br /><br />As regards Jesus' teaching on unconditional and all-inclusive love, all I can say is, Mags, it positively oooooozes from your every utterance. You are such a shining example of tolerance, humility and acceptance. You would have made a great medieval pope! :-DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-20658973964492961542016-09-27T12:34:30.274+01:002016-09-27T12:34:30.274+01:0011:59, God's word is IN Scripture, but it is n...11:59, God's word is IN Scripture, but it is not the whole of Scripture. (Sigh) I'm surrounded by half-wits, but I'm not sure you merit this much praise.<br /><br />Jesus made his universal (and transcendent of time and place) condemnation of the death penalty known when hr spoke these words: 'Let he among you who is without sin be the first to cast a stone.' I've lost you, haven't I?<br /><br />Let me explain. There was never a time when fallen humanity was without sin THEREFORE there was never a time when the death penalty was morally appropriate. Duh!<br /><br />Scripture is the word of God THROUGH the word of men. Those prescriptions for the death penalty in the Old Testament came not from God, but from men.<br /><br />Besides, you idiot, Jesus tells us to LOVE our enemies. Is it an act of such love to put someone to death against his will? (Don't make an arse of yourself by answering 'yes'.)Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-3482767653697456262016-09-27T12:24:42.415+01:002016-09-27T12:24:42.415+01:00If you are not God, Maggie Cathatchera, are you a ...If you are not God, Maggie Cathatchera, are you a Rockweiller?<br />The Fan ClubAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-34762996420062851042016-09-27T12:09:59.087+01:002016-09-27T12:09:59.087+01:00Dear God in Heaven! You're actually serious, a...Dear God in Heaven! You're actually serious, aren't you?<br /><br />Jesus set the example that we are to follow. Yes? So if he can call people 'fools', then so may we. And as that particular cap fits you right now, I shall cheerfully and truthfully call you what you actually are: an utter and incorrigible FOOL. No offence.<br /><br />Oh! As for the Catholic Church's traditional approval of the death penalty (against the express teaching of Christ), you do know, don't you, that popes once employed their own executioners? No, I don't suppose you do. Well, here's another tidbit for you: at one time, the pope's executioner was paid 3 lire for each beheading. So much for faithful 'Peter'. Yes, Roman Catholicism is, and always has been, unswervingly true to Jesus' teaching. (Being the fool you so obviously are, I thought I'd better point out the sarcasm of that remark.)Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-42274258671631525632016-09-27T11:59:03.540+01:002016-09-27T11:59:03.540+01:00Not uttering the word "hell" at a brothe...Not uttering the word "hell" at a brother or sister but calling him or her "you fool" can incur the judgement of hellfire. <br /><br />God, you must know, is subject to no one's judgement so - if God calls you a fool - you are in deep doo doo! <br /><br />The death penalty is sanctioned by Scripture by the way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-80704839612390627382016-09-27T11:47:14.861+01:002016-09-27T11:47:14.861+01:00You really are obtuse, Magna Carta. Jesus Christ c...You really are obtuse, Magna Carta. Jesus Christ cannot possibly be in Hell because He called the Pharisees "fools" because He is Almighty God. He is the arbitrator - the Giver of the Law - the Maker of the rules. He is not subject to anyone or anything. If God calls a man a fool, He has good grounds to do so and let that man tremble and repent. <br /><br />You also, it appears again and again, have an obsession with the death penalty. The Catholic Church, whilst allowing for its use by the State as a last resort, opposes the death penalty and St John Paul II persistently opposed it and argued against it.<br /><br />All of that will be lost on you because you are an extremist, Magna Carta. It is impossible to reason with a fanatic's closed mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-77290441312291255572016-09-27T11:16:01.949+01:002016-09-27T11:16:01.949+01:00Why thank you!Why thank you!Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-55007398966450249002016-09-27T10:53:20.432+01:002016-09-27T10:53:20.432+01:0010:07: Oh, dear! You're still smarting, aren&#...10:07: Oh, dear! You're still smarting, aren't you old girl? And your silly little hissy fit has made you irrational, too. Catholics still do (some of them at least) think they can 'purchase' a place in Heaven by performing so-called 'good works' (which, actually, are works <br /> self-interest since they lack charity). There remains in Catholicism a strong undercurrent of Jansenism. So Jarlath is absolutely right, just not in the obtuse way you believe.Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-90099759502432480762016-09-27T10:40:14.936+01:002016-09-27T10:40:14.936+01:0009:59, didn't an exasperated Christ, straining...09:59, didn't an exasperated Christ, straining on his apostolic tether, once exclaim to his followers: How long am I to bear with you? It was Jesus' polite way of letting his groupies know that he was thoroughly pissed off with them. Right now I know exactly how he felt; I really do.<br /><br />If uttering the word 'hell' at a brother, sister (or whatever) damns one, then Jesus himself is already in that eternal barbecue, because he called the Pharisees 'fools!'. (Check out Luke 11: 39 through 40.)<br /><br />'Peter' is not in allegiance with Christ at a most fundamental and scriptural level: that of unconditional and all-inclusive love. Peter does not value All human life since he permits the taking of it in particular circumstances. Christ permits no such thing. In fact a New Testament writer is unequivocal about the correlation of loving neighbour and God: He who says he loves God and hates his brother is a liar.<br /><br />Permitting the killing of people, as Peter disobediently does, is not an act of love, but an expression of utter contempt for human life.Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-28800810938929910882016-09-27T10:20:28.731+01:002016-09-27T10:20:28.731+01:00Sean Brady' "nature" was and is to d...Sean Brady' "nature" was and is to do ANYTHING the church asks him to do.<br /><br />Thats how he got where he is.<br /><br />If the church asked him to make two boys "disappear" he would at least give it serious thought.<br /><br />He is and was an ecclesiastical robot!<br />Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-34127643624819777612016-09-27T10:10:48.533+01:002016-09-27T10:10:48.533+01:00It does seem to be very easy to get Magna Carta to...It does seem to be very easy to get Magna Carta to go ballistic!<br />Just let him know what an unpleasant, arrogant, volatile and explosive pin--head he is - with a serious comprehension problem. It is quite possible - as noted elsewhere he does seem to believe that he is God.<br />Pip & Sam FanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-32222575044010576782016-09-27T10:07:49.376+01:002016-09-27T10:07:49.376+01:00Another scathing retort from Maggie Carter lol
He...Another scathing retort from Maggie Carter lol<br /><br />Here's what Jarlath Vaughan actually said: "We don't need to insult Him by trying to purchase our way into Heaven - such is an insult to His Vicarious Sacrifice. Yes +Pat, the Jansenistic / De La Salle formative knowledge of God is so different to the REAL God I now know.The Book and the Blood."<br /><br />It is a common slur against Catholics by esoteric "super-Christians", that they try to purchase their way into Heaven. <br /><br />Save your put downs for someone you might succeed in intimidating you acid-tongued old queen. ;)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-88504960562811966232016-09-27T09:59:36.817+01:002016-09-27T09:59:36.817+01:00Seeing as you take Jesus so literally MC - remembe...Seeing as you take Jesus so literally MC - remember where He said: "if you call your brother:sister a fool you shall answer for it in hell fire". <br /><br />Peter, in fact, did not write himself out of allegiance to Christ, even though he sinned and was at times disobedient. <br /><br />Are you always fully compliant, totally obedient, to the Will of God, MC? You need to take a good long look at yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com