tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post4410376210116900498..comments2024-03-12T19:57:41.861+00:00Comments on THINKING CATHOLICISM: Thinking Catholicismhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comBlogger79125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-71062950720620185382017-08-17T21:32:17.370+01:002017-08-17T21:32:17.370+01:00https://www.ncronline.org/news/vatican/pope-and-hi...https://www.ncronline.org/news/vatican/pope-and-hitler-youth-benedict-s-words<br /><br />He didn't want to be in HY. He was in it briefly and he did not participate in its activities.<br /><br />Not that any of that will make a button of difference to the closed mind and bitter heart of MC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-23571374406369689232017-08-17T20:41:10.385+01:002017-08-17T20:41:10.385+01:00Pat. Did you get information on the PP removed fro...Pat. Did you get information on the PP removed from ministry in Co. Louth, Armagh Archdiocese?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-61751097717400236052017-08-17T16:56:48.380+01:002017-08-17T16:56:48.380+01:0016:03, 'Hitler Youth was akin to the Boy Scout...16:03, 'Hitler Youth was akin to the Boy Scouts'? You're not serious, surely? The Hitler Youth was designed, in part, to manifest ruthless and brutal Nazi conceptions of Germanic manhood and Darwinian doctrine on natural survival. To this end, the Hitler Youth sought to brutalise young boys, to drive out any natural vestige of compassion, by training them to kill such animals as rabbits with their bare hands. This was to turn them into psychopathic killers who would eventually serve the Reich in some military capacity.<br /><br />You, like certain other commentors here, have a highly sanitised (and ignorant) view of Nazi Germany.Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-47667796826769199702017-08-17T16:03:25.811+01:002017-08-17T16:03:25.811+01:00Personally, I find Magna Carta somewhat of an anom...Personally, I find Magna Carta somewhat of an anomaly on this blog.<br /><br />Sometimes his post are thoughtful, compassionate, insightful, wise - even moving.<br /><br />Then other times - as in the above - he is completely irrational and intransigent.<br /><br />Where any of us to be scrutinised for what we did - and did not do - when we were fourteen years old, we would all be in hot water and highly embarrassed no doubt.<br /><br />Furthermore, given MC's propensity for extreme dogmatism and harsh intolerance, I dread to think what side he would have taken in 1930's Germany!<br /><br />A 21year old university student like Sophie Scholl would have had a much more highly developed social awareness than the 14 year old Josef Ratzinger. Do we not owe the boy Ratzinger the compassion, at least, of the benefit of the doubt? <br /><br />After all, the world was unaware of the true nature of Nazism in the 1930's. Hitler Youth was akin to the Boy Scouts. Indeed, footage emerged recently of a young Elizabeth Windsor (aged about the same age as Josef Ratzinger then was) and other playmates, giving the Nazi salute. Is she also to be called "the Nazi Queen"? I don't think any reasonable person would call her that.<br /><br />The Pope Emeritus' views on Nazism in any case leave no room for doubt, as to where he stood and stands, on such evil ideologies.<br /><br />I can only conclude that MC was so damaged by his experiences in Maynooth in the 1980's that he is left in this highly embittered state that he does strive to transcend but - more often than not - he falls back into it and takes refuge in it.<br /><br />In which case, he probably needs our prayers and sympathies more than our annoyance and exasperation.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-88166929362038832962017-08-17T14:54:37.565+01:002017-08-17T14:54:37.565+01:00You have the measure of no one, not even yourself;...You have the measure of no one, not even yourself; hence the lack of intellectual self-insight and honesty.<br /><br />You sound very angry, so I must have been highly accurate in my evaluation of Ratzinger's conduct back then. Actually, we both know I am, and your anger here is an unmistakable pointer to this.<br /><br />If you have read anything by Ratzinger on his conduct at the time, you'll realise that he was fully aware of the moral obscenity Nazism was. Yet he did not resist when conscripted into the ranks of the Hitler Youth; he did not protest, neither he nor his brother, as others protested.<br /><br />People like you (effectively, moral cowards, too) cannot face the truth about this odious, little German pontiff, so you attempt to sanitise his past morally. But I'm afraid, like Canute, the tide of history is against you, for Ratzinger did, without any resistance whatever, join a fanatical Nazi organisation, either because he actually supported at least some of its detestable ideological self-deceit (for example, that 'racially pure' Germans...'Aryans'...were superior to all others...the 'master race...and therefore had the right to dominate them), or that he wanted just to save his own cowardly skin. Or perhaps it was elements of both. Who can be sure, except the moral coward himself, Ratzinger? (And, of course, almighty God.)<br /><br />Through his moral cowardice, Ratzinger publicly and morally endorsed one of the most evil regimes in political history, along with its fanatical, anti-Semitic ideology (what Pope Pius XII called 'the satanic spectre of national socialism'.) <br /><br />This scandal Ratzinger has never, publicly, acknowledged, and repented of. Others, like you, have been quick to present a revised, and highly sanitised, version of Ratzinger's time in Nazi Germany. But all to no avail, for the truth is already out there.<br /><br />My young heroes are those like St Maria Goretti, who had the moral backbone to lay down their lives in a most brutal way rather than submit to evil. And poor Maria, a little girl, was younger than the odious Ratzinger: only some twelve years of age to his fourteen years. Contrast her courage with Ratzinger's cowardice. But don't dwell on the difference too long, since it can be nauseating. Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-56068234946239131242017-08-17T12:59:23.381+01:002017-08-17T12:59:23.381+01:00You were around back then were you? You knew Josef...You were around back then were you? You knew Josef Ratzinger personally when he was 14 years old did you? You - with your myopic hatred and colossal arrogance - are what is truly "contemptible". It is utterly unreasonable to impose what you are attempting to impose on a 14 year old schoolboy in the 1930's - no matter how intelligent you imagine that he was. You are attempting to do so out of sheer malice. Now, like all trolls, you will be determined to have the last word of course. Good luck to you. Most people who read this blog have the measure of you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-52678517661383215062017-08-17T11:14:31.698+01:002017-08-17T11:14:31.698+01:00As I said, Ratzinger was highly intelligent and mu...As I said, Ratzinger was highly intelligent and much more mature than his age might suggest, certainly a great deal more mature than other fourteen-year-olds of his time. <br /><br />In terms of intellectual and psychical development, he was probably Sophie Scholl's equal (if not better). The difference between the two (And what a difference it was!) is a moral one: Scholl courageously made a stand against one of the darkest evils in human history, while Ratzinger, along with his equally spineless brother, retreated into cowardly self-interest and self-preservation. <br /><br />It is on Ratzinger's own standards of personal development (which were clearly outside the norm for someone his age) that his conduct must be judged, not on some stylised psychological profile of a person in that age group. <br /><br />On one level, your loyalty to Ratzinger is impressive, but hardly warranted: blind loyalty such as yours is never admirable, and always contemptible. Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-39133634030754785102017-08-17T00:47:39.370+01:002017-08-17T00:47:39.370+01:00You really are an obnoxious and bigoted moron aren...You really are an obnoxious and bigoted moron aren't you? HE WAS A 14 YEAR OLD CHILD!<br /><br />Sophie Scholl would have been a lot more advanced in her thinking at 21 than he would have been. His role in Hitler Youth was minimal in any case and it was short lived. At 14, he was hardly in any position to take a stand and very few understood the full reality of Hitlerism in any case at that stage of events. Your own hatred and bigotry has made reason and sense impossible for you hasn't it? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-15765152784523028212017-08-17T00:43:06.170+01:002017-08-17T00:43:06.170+01:0018:04
Gleeful - how do you get that?
Irrelevant -....18:04<br />Gleeful - how do you get that?<br />Irrelevant -.How, also, do you get that?<br />Some people see things that are not there - this was a simple but very point!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-88083409261223366932017-08-17T00:36:20.032+01:002017-08-17T00:36:20.032+01:00Semi-detached? Semi-detached? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-89226215909403675332017-08-16T23:19:54.151+01:002017-08-16T23:19:54.151+01:00I think he is attached to a Religious Congregation...I think he is attached to a Religious CongregationAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-26324626260917010572017-08-16T22:42:56.647+01:002017-08-16T22:42:56.647+01:00There is always a choice; we are not automatons. R...There is always a choice; we are not automatons. Ratzinger (reputed to be highly intelligent) would have known that Nazism was intrinsically evil, yet he, along with his morally spineless older brother, chose (yes, 'chose') to follow the herd and show public solidarity with Nazism, despite the obvious scandal of this.<br /><br />Contrast the moral cowardice of Ratzinger with the courage of Sophie Scholl, and others in the White Rose Society: they resisted Hitler's manic war machine and were guillotine for it.<br /><br />I know which of these set the better moral example, and it wasn't Ratzinger.Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-27196517342189973902017-08-16T21:42:38.443+01:002017-08-16T21:42:38.443+01:00Perhaps the machine recognises that you are in fac...Perhaps the machine recognises that you are in fact a robot... Better be careful.... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-28856939104749702792017-08-16T21:36:39.409+01:002017-08-16T21:36:39.409+01:00I don't know whether that poster has more soph...I don't know whether that poster has more sophisticated sense of humour than you? I think that's it. I thought the 'song' was a bit obvious and silly and if it was intended as a parody, then why not make sure the lines scanned properly? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-35728204228273682342017-08-16T21:18:45.021+01:002017-08-16T21:18:45.021+01:00Two problems with this approach:
1. 'Male'...Two problems with this approach:<br />1. 'Male' and 'female' are elastic terms along a continuum. Exactly where the boundaries lie is iften not clear. <br /><br />2. Matter and form are Scholastic categories. Christian sacraments predate this terminology. In other words, for centuries sacraments were celebrated without reference to form and matter. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-57599673278720332842017-08-16T20:29:00.791+01:002017-08-16T20:29:00.791+01:00The song is entitled 'The Priests of oul Armag...The song is entitled 'The Priests of oul Armagh' as in the Diocese of. Whose wearing the false face now 19.47.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-52261748270402257672017-08-16T20:21:57.118+01:002017-08-16T20:21:57.118+01:0020.03 Perhaps Eamon should have ended the prayer m...20.03 Perhaps Eamon should have ended the prayer more sincerely by praying; "Lord may I answer letters of complaint in future not throw them in the bin. Amen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-33293516233887611732017-08-16T20:03:14.271+01:002017-08-16T20:03:14.271+01:00Lovely words from fatima from A/B Eamon
Lord help ...Lovely words from fatima from A/B Eamon<br />Lord help us use our gifts to build up, rather than to tear down; to heal, rather than to wound; to celebrate, not humiliate. #Fatima100Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-67187605123310204552017-08-16T19:47:07.725+01:002017-08-16T19:47:07.725+01:00You travelled through Co Armagh in Dungannon, Cast...You travelled through Co Armagh in Dungannon, Castledawson,Pomeroy and Magherafelt.... OK ---- that makes sense. More brains in a false faceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-7837274082978051902017-08-16T19:23:50.216+01:002017-08-16T19:23:50.216+01:00I agree with your choice of comments MMM---Oh.. an...I agree with your choice of comments MMM---Oh.. and also the comment at 15.12 was amusing. Made me laugh... Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-85597115940590747852017-08-16T19:07:35.436+01:002017-08-16T19:07:35.436+01:00Ha ha! That's him told--you're right poste...Ha ha! That's him told--you're right poster 15.56 - He's definitely in club! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-329460848591209972017-08-16T18:58:49.899+01:002017-08-16T18:58:49.899+01:00They had no choice. 14 years old he was! I wonder ...They had no choice. 14 years old he was! I wonder what you would have done? They probably would've thrown you out of Hitler Youth in any case. You're too much of a dictator!<br /><br />Seriously, all very well the likes of you pontificating about what a 14 year old boy should or could have done, in Germany, in the 1930's! Also, this was long before the full reality and horrors of Nazism became known to the whole world at the end of WWII!!<br /><br />You are an ass Magna Carta.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-30595311240411911132017-08-16T18:10:34.046+01:002017-08-16T18:10:34.046+01:00There have indeed been some excellent informative ...There have indeed been some excellent informative insightful comments here today. Very refreshing to see some well considered argument irrespective of perspectives.<br />Thank you in particular Anon @ 11:13. :54. 12:35. & 12:22. and Pat's replies to the points made therein.<br />So good to see sensible comment rather than petty mudslinging.<br />MMMMourneManMichaelnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-69878034528467894712017-08-16T18:04:41.661+01:002017-08-16T18:04:41.661+01:00@16:50, while you are right that the subject matte...@16:50, while you are right that the subject matter is quite different, it is insufferably tedious to read gleeful obnoxious corrections that are entirely irrelevant to the subject under discussion. So the distinction between the Grammar Pest and this form of pedantry isn't really all that great. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-56748620965288385742017-08-16T17:45:06.597+01:002017-08-16T17:45:06.597+01:0015:44, no HONEST person would deny Ratzinger's...15:44, no HONEST person would deny Ratzinger's Nazi past; even he does not deny it.<br /><br />It is true that he was conscripted into the Hitler Youth, along with his older brother; but neither of them resisted this.<br /><br />Ratzinger is a poor example of moral probity to modern youth, since he failed to show moral courage when it was most needed.<br /><br />16:32, I need neither understand nor misunderstand victory; I need only savour it. And in this instance, I do. Oh, I do!Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.com