tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post5049851049460832721..comments2024-03-12T19:57:41.861+00:00Comments on THINKING CATHOLICISM: BISHOP NOEL TREANOR - CELIBACY - AN OPEN LETTERThinking Catholicismhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-62197969313534230512015-03-18T11:30:31.000+00:002015-03-18T11:30:31.000+00:00I do not agree with many of the things you advocat...I do not agree with many of the things you advocate, however I totally believe you are spot on for exposing Fr. Dallat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-35406993540006679882015-03-18T11:26:17.354+00:002015-03-18T11:26:17.354+00:00I do not agree with you conducting "marriages...I do not agree with you conducting "marriages", that are blatantly contrary to church laws however I can not fault you in exposing Fr. Dallat in so far I believe his behaviour is disgusting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-71347938580818232592015-03-18T09:36:58.717+00:002015-03-18T09:36:58.717+00:00How many other Down and Connor Priests are conduct...How many other Down and Connor Priests are conducting clandestine affairs ?<br />The living church initiative will do nothing to address this problem within the diocese. This unfortunate woman has been abused and exploited and the safeguarding office must deal with it under their policies and procedures. It is not enough to say that they were consenting adults, this woman was a vulnerable adult and Father Dallat has taken advantage of her at a difficult time. He has abused and exploited her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-16575317246723054482015-03-18T09:05:12.156+00:002015-03-18T09:05:12.156+00:00Father Fonsie is your acting Administrator, Assist...Father Fonsie is your acting Administrator, Assistant Priest and Presiding Bishop.<br /><br />Priest. D&CAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-5345986496504945582015-03-18T08:55:19.132+00:002015-03-18T08:55:19.132+00:00Is Fr Fonsie CsSR still our acting ADM ?
Cathedra...Is Fr Fonsie CsSR still our acting ADM ?<br /><br />Cathedral Parishioner, BT12. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-9702590403570420342015-03-18T07:37:20.696+00:002015-03-18T07:37:20.696+00:00The very obvious denial of responsibility by the C...The very obvious denial of responsibility by the Church authorities for protecting people from "predator priests" , echoes strongly the attitude displayed 25 years ago, when the Church refused both morally and legally, to accept responsibility for child abusing clergy. DENIAL WAS "THE NAME OF THE GAME" !<br />What is the difference in morality and legal responsibility, in the moving from parish to parish of a known "predator priest", and that of a known child abusing priest ? <br />Surely both types represent a very serious threat to the Parishioners in their "care". <br /><br />Concerned Catholic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-43252537605525727322015-03-18T07:23:28.054+00:002015-03-18T07:23:28.054+00:00"Pious fraud". Who dare u!!!! I am a you..."Pious fraud". Who dare u!!!! I am a young working mother trying to bring up 3 small kids in 1 of the worst named areas in the falls. I do not eat the chapel rails but I do attend weekly mass for the that my kids deserve to know about the religion that they were born an baptised into. It's hypocritical to baptise them on a show day an for them to never see the inside of a chapel again. I think this is called being a good parent. <br /><br />As for your so called abandoned ship yesterday maybe the reason for this is because of vicious people like yourself who have CD hung drawn an quartered. <br /><br />I do sympathise with the lady but here's another old saying for ye "it takes 2 to tango".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-7912624933242944932015-03-18T01:08:44.388+00:002015-03-18T01:08:44.388+00:00Father, thank you for your first contribution and ...Father, thank you for your first contribution and for trusting me with your identity.<br /><br />The quality of your contribution is top class. <br /><br />It strikes me that the victim(s) of Ciaran Dallat may very well have a case against the Diocese and indeed Bishop Treanor.<br /><br />PatThinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-45696369941236735782015-03-18T01:05:43.545+00:002015-03-18T01:05:43.545+00:00(2) Could the Church not face prosecution if a vic...(2) Could the Church not face prosecution if a victim was defrauded of money or suffered grave mental trauma (ie clinical depression) by a predator priest already known to Church authorities?<br /><br />One could argue on a point of law that the Diocese's failure to act "assisted" the PREDATOR PRIEST in his illicit and or illegal actions.<br /><br />D&C Priest - first time contributor to this Blog - name with Bishop Pat.Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-17543421900955601722015-03-18T00:59:31.788+00:002015-03-18T00:59:31.788+00:00THE TWO CONTRIBUTIONS BELOW WERE SENT BY TEXT TO M...THE TWO CONTRIBUTIONS BELOW WERE SENT BY TEXT TO ME WITH THE REQUEST TO PLACE AS COMMENTSThinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-64234038603088483672015-03-18T00:58:18.543+00:002015-03-18T00:58:18.543+00:00Pat, Barbara McDermott on £90,000 per annum heads ...Pat, Barbara McDermott on £90,000 per annum heads up the Child Protection / Vulnerable Adults office in D&C. Why not suggest that her remit be extended to cover men / women who have been targeted by predatory priests in order to to secure sex, money, holidays etc. This will emphasise the hypocrisy of the Diocese in only being interested in LEGAL TRESPASSES as opposed to SERIOUS MORAL TRESPASSES. Did Jesus not come to extend care, love and compassion beyond what is simply legalistic! Do we only invest in protecting people, when legal boundaries could be crossed,and we as a church could therefore be vulnerable to prosecution? Is not EVERY PERSON made in the image and likeness of God, worthy of protection from those who may abuse their position of trust? Should the Church not give the example to society, insisting that its personnel treat ALL people as other "christs" Is not a predator priest a grave risk to the spiritual and mental well being of the victim and of future victims? Does the Church not accept its moral and or quasi legal responsibility to protect people when a predator priest is identified?<br /><br />Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-85569114412179704532015-03-18T00:01:47.046+00:002015-03-18T00:01:47.046+00:00They got value today. Authenticity, beautiful simp...They got value today. Authenticity, beautiful simplicity, self givingness on the part of the Clonard priests concerned, acceptance and love. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-21699692992698726832015-03-17T23:01:54.612+00:002015-03-17T23:01:54.612+00:00Who pays for Clonard Priests to "fill in"...Who pays for Clonard Priests to "fill in" at the Cathedral ? It seems somewhat bizarre to have 2 resident Diocesan Priests in the Cathedral , and yet for both Masses in St Peter's today, the Clonard Clergy have to "front up". Not sure the Parishioners are getting value for money !<br /><br />Parishioner of St Paul's.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-83789390023899849182015-03-17T22:58:47.441+00:002015-03-17T22:58:47.441+00:00Pious frauds like the above at 21:35 make me puke!...Pious frauds like the above at 21:35 make me puke! You found Six Dinner Dallat "a kind and considerate person"? Good for you. You're one of a very few and select number I can tell ye.<br /><br />There is a Belfast expression: "if ya couldn't laugh, you'd go mad" and it is very apt here. These buffoons invite deserved ridicule. I know of people these two clowns, CD and HK, gave a very hard time to because, in their eyes, they weren't "living right".<br /><br />The abandoned ship of the Cathedral speaks volumes. The rats have fled. Maybe they are in Lisbreen? Maybe Noel has them both sitting one on each knee, tonight,getting their wind up?<br /><br />What has happened, in all seriousness, is another scandal, a further betrayal of a parish community. You can bet - the person "the diocese" cares about least is the woman who has gone to the papers. Behind the closed doors, you can imagine the names she is being called!!<br /><br />As for wee Eddie McGee: get over yourself, Eddie. You have sat on the fence all your life thus far. Stop being a robot, a parrot and get a life. <br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-48368121306303390462015-03-17T22:57:59.542+00:002015-03-17T22:57:59.542+00:00GUBU on Diocesan Pilgrimage to Saul today perchanc...GUBU on Diocesan Pilgrimage to Saul today perchance? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-29962513368902480292015-03-17T22:29:16.234+00:002015-03-17T22:29:16.234+00:00Does anyone know where our GUBU Bishop today celeb...Does anyone know where our GUBU Bishop today celebrated Mass, in honour of our National Patron ? <br /><br />Clerical Observer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-22891332279313259852015-03-17T22:28:00.083+00:002015-03-17T22:28:00.083+00:00Thanks to the old priests of Clonard for keeping a...Thanks to the old priests of Clonard for keeping alive the battered hearts of St Peter's people.<br />No music but we did have Fr Fonsie plaintively sing "Faith of our fathers (living still?) in spite of Dungeon Fire and Sword"!<br />How metaphorically apt! <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-35428089486295807632015-03-17T22:22:12.736+00:002015-03-17T22:22:12.736+00:00Does anyone know the name or contact details of a ...Does anyone know the name or contact details of a Priest Exorcist ?<br />I think he could be gainfully employed in our Cathedral Parish. <br /><br />LUX. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-82415978586683361042015-03-17T21:35:13.488+00:002015-03-17T21:35:13.488+00:00I sincerely hope that this matter can be resolved ...I sincerely hope that this matter can be resolved without malice or maliciousness as I believe both parties are deeply affected by it. My prayers are with the 2 people who are directly involved. <br /><br />I would also like to add that no one is perfect an we are all human no matter what our calling in life has been. Again another man made rule created within the church. <br /><br />Some people/priests are using this situation to fuel their own personal vendettas an should be ashamed for doing so (people in glass houses)<br /><br />I personally find father ciaran a kind a considerate person who has helped and guided me in the past.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-16804039353246422652015-03-17T20:22:30.662+00:002015-03-17T20:22:30.662+00:00Father Eddie McGee issued the above statement toni...Father Eddie McGee issued the above statement tonight on behalf of Bishop Treanor to the IRISH NEWS.<br /><br />The IRISH NEWS sent it to me - as the victims "designated support person" to ask the lady for a response to the statement. That is good journalism - to give all sides the opportunity to comment and respond before publication.<br /><br />Before the story appeared in today's IRISH NEWS Bishop Treanor, last night, was given the opportunity to comment before publication.<br /><br />Tonight Father McGee rang the IRISH NEWS to complain that his statement was given to me and put on my Blog.<br /><br />He asked the IRISH NEWS to get me to take the statement down and remove his name from my Blog.<br /><br />He likes not to be named but referred to as as "a spokesman".<br /><br />But the statement came from Father McGee.<br /><br />Do Blog readers think I should remove this statement and Father McGee's name?Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-53374802638599811672015-03-17T20:16:24.174+00:002015-03-17T20:16:24.174+00:00Dear Eddie,
I wish I could be assured that these m...Dear Eddie,<br />I wish I could be assured that these matters would be properly addressed. Sadly, I have no such confidence in the process. The way that Our Ordinary, Bishop Noel, spoke to the woman concerned, should cause all Priests and people of the Diocese, to be very sceptical as to his sincerity, in dealing with this matter in a transparent and Christ-like manner. <br />His no show at the Cathedral this morning spoke volumes ! Don't Eddie believe all you hear in the corridors of Lisbreen.You I believe are a sincere Priest, but beware those who put words in your mouth, for often they themselves speak with "forked tongue".<br /><br />Fellow Priest of D&C.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-15514461724574668212015-03-17T19:38:12.168+00:002015-03-17T19:38:12.168+00:00*******NEW STATEMENT TONIGHT BY FATHER EDDIE MC GE...*******NEW STATEMENT TONIGHT BY FATHER EDDIE MC GEE ON BEHALF OF BISHOP TREANOR<br /><br />COURTESY OF A BELFAST JOURNALIST:<br /><br />Begins<br /><br />"This is an intensely private and personal matter for both parties <br />and, in particular, for the lady concerned. The Diocese is treating <br />this matter seriously and will respect and protect the privacy and <br />welfare of all involved. The Diocese confirms that it will do what <br />is necessary to ensure that the matter is properly addressed. This <br />includes making sure that confidentiality is upheld and that no <br />unnecessary hurt or distress is caused. For these reasons, it is <br />not appropriate to make any further comment."<br /><br />FATHER EDDIE MGEE ON BEHALF OF BISHOP NOEL TREANORFATHER EDDIE McGeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-16624983859790408702015-03-17T19:09:40.255+00:002015-03-17T19:09:40.255+00:00That's a nice frock coat Fr Michael is wearing...That's a nice frock coat Fr Michael is wearing in the Irish News beside the Titanic Centre. Isn't it refreshing think to see such a contented, happy smile on the priest of a Down and Connor priest. He has the look of a man without any "skeletons" in his cupboards. Thank God! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-87736538612439589962015-03-17T19:04:13.145+00:002015-03-17T19:04:13.145+00:00For the people's sake; for God's sake; for...For the people's sake; for God's sake; for the Church's sake would all concerned in this total fiasco get off their high horses, do the right thing and GO!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-72792245723750168322015-03-17T18:59:23.610+00:002015-03-17T18:59:23.610+00:00I appreciate the sincerity of your comments @ 17.3...I appreciate the sincerity of your comments @ 17.37, but feel I should point out to you that an important part of any healing process vis a vis the Cathedral situation, would be transparency. I don't believe that the 3 "wise men" , Noel, Hugh, & Ciaran know the meaning of the word transparency. Sadly they deal in a different currency, and will I fear, continue to dodge the real issues, and inflict further pain, in a foolish attempt to "bury the skeletons". <br />These men know the "price of everything,and the true value of nothing".<br />I was ordained a lifetime ago, and I am deeply saddened at the events unfolding in St Peter's; it is a disgrace to the good people and priests who served in the Cathedral, over the years. I am a sinner, but I'm not a fraud, and nor do I use people. The people of God do not expect us to be perfect, but they do expect integrity, and sincerity. The Vista at the Cathedral is a parody of Ordained Priesthood, and that's what hurts me.<br /><br />Priest of Down & Connor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com