tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post5173724518879095629..comments2024-03-12T19:57:41.861+00:00Comments on THINKING CATHOLICISM: Thinking Catholicismhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-70331964404672093982017-03-17T22:48:22.069+00:002017-03-17T22:48:22.069+00:00Hawkins
And. Thank god for that, the sooner they d...Hawkins<br />And. Thank god for that, the sooner they disappear the better<br />There must be other ways for us laity to explore our faith without these self serving Men<br />Time for a complete overhaul...there are other ways.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-88205144516856106882017-03-17T22:43:10.763+00:002017-03-17T22:43:10.763+00:00And another thing 21.05
It's how we live our l...And another thing 21.05<br />It's how we live our lives that we will be judged<br />All this praying for the dead was another money collecting exercise.<br />And all these decorations at Caseys Funeral.....flowing robes....utterly uncalled for.<br />Simplicity in all things is how I would see it.<br />Did Casey earn his living by the sweat of his brow<br />I certainly did.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-26363852761843132002017-03-17T22:37:25.112+00:002017-03-17T22:37:25.112+00:0022.05
Thank god I don't Have to listen to the ...22.05<br />Thank god I don't Have to listen to the likes of you preaching of a Sunday.<br />Go and take the planks out of your own eyes<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-60116174259714754432017-03-17T22:24:57.650+00:002017-03-17T22:24:57.650+00:00Exiled himself for several years?! Grow up. The as...Exiled himself for several years?! Grow up. The asshole conveniently 'disappeared' until the dust of moral scandal had settled. Casey was a self-serving, self-aggrandizing moral coward who didn't give a fuck (well, he did on several occasions, with Annie Murphy) for anyone or anything except his bloated self.Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-40745580551166986382017-03-17T21:05:38.642+00:002017-03-17T21:05:38.642+00:00Wonderfully insightful, 18:26, given that the only...Wonderfully insightful, 18:26, given that the only fact we know about newborns "thrown in a pit" is that there are unnamed human remains in a concrete tank in Tuam. Of course we wouldn't want to let the lack of known facts to get in the way of an opportunity to implicate every bishop in the country, would we? As for the pope or "his dressed up men" (priests and bishops presumably) not being Christian anymore, your comment about Bishop Casey seems quite devoid of Christianity - though, in fairness, you do not claim to be a Christian. Firstly, Eamon Casey was given a Catholic funeral, not a canonisation ceremony - is it not a Christian duty to pray for the dead? Eamon Casey - whether or not it was because he was caught - admitted what he had done and he apologised, exiled himself for several years, and afterwards lived a life out of the limelight - how Christian is it of you to refuse a penitent sinner. Hypocrite! Take the plank out of your own eye... (Mt.7:5) Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-75967588423485711092017-03-17T19:04:44.138+00:002017-03-17T19:04:44.138+00:00(From poster originally at 16.49..)
Thank you MC -...(From poster originally at 16.49..)<br />Thank you MC - - You get the point I was making and give some clear examples... <br />The Pope on the day of his installation takes the detailed "Coronation Oath" and swears(as you mention--) to maintain in its fullness the body of revealed Truth. He knows clearly what is contained in it and what is not. The detail is lengthy.. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-12053337657563700212017-03-17T18:37:31.150+00:002017-03-17T18:37:31.150+00:0017:54, denying that gay relationships have any val...17:54, denying that gay relationships have any value (as Francis does) is indeed an expression of homophobia, since it is not only irrational, but verifiably untrue. <br /><br />The puzzle is that Francis admitted to a gay former student of his that there was no room for homophobia in the Church. Francis is either blind to the moral inconsistency here, or is an out-and-out hypocrite.Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-69248317116226077022017-03-17T18:26:13.359+00:002017-03-17T18:26:13.359+00:00You know something
I've lost interest in anyth...You know something<br />I've lost interest in anything Roman, how could any Pope affect how I live<br />I don't even think he or his other dressed up men are even Christian anymore<br />Just look at his so called bishops here....allowing newborns to be thrown in a pit and honouring A hypocrite of a bishop who drove high powered cars under the influence<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-79216569811822006352017-03-17T17:54:52.646+00:002017-03-17T17:54:52.646+00:00No - a phobia is an irrational fear of something o...No - a phobia is an irrational fear of something or someone. Having an opinion on marriage or the value of relationships is not homophobia or any other kind of phobia. However, the idea that you promote, 12:45, is that anyone who expresses an opinion that differs from the prevailing gay-agenda is a homophobe. This is completely false and irrational. Perhaps you are suffering from allodoxaphobia!?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-12361702148197662782017-03-17T17:53:08.817+00:002017-03-17T17:53:08.817+00:0016:49, your point is a good one.
Pope Francis ca...16:49, your point is a good one. <br /><br />Pope Francis cannot legitimately change revealed truth, for example, the Ten Commandments. These are absolute rather than arbitrary, and are the bedrock of our faith. <br /><br />Subsidiary truths (those based on the Commandments, but deduced through knowledge and reason (and, hopefully, enlightment by the Holy Spirit) can and must be changed where knowledge or reason are somehow flawed. For example, the Church once taught that masturbation was not just an act of impurity, but an act of murder, since it was believed that the 'seed' of human life was contained in semem. 'Spilling one's seed' through masturbation (the sin of Onan) was morally judged not just a refusal to obey the divine command to procreate, but a destruction of human life itself. (Wombs were considered to be merely natural means of incubation.) This, of course, was never the case, but it is what was anatomically believed at the time.<br /><br />There are other subsidiary 'truths' that were never correct, but were nevertheless believed to be so. Homosexuality, for instance, was conventionally accepted as an excess of lust (not as a natural orientation) where males and females so driven could no longer be sexually satisfied by intercourse with someone of the opposite sex. This was wrong, too.<br /><br />Interestingly, even though Francis cannot legitimately change revealed truth, this has not stopped his predecessors from ignoring the Fifth Commandment, in order to justify morally such killing as capital punishment.Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-58959873169199780852017-03-17T17:47:42.992+00:002017-03-17T17:47:42.992+00:00Hi Pat,
Papal Nuncio in today's Irish Times ...Hi Pat, <br /><br />Papal Nuncio in today's Irish Times on the ‘Very serious’ decline in number becoming priests in IrelandHawkinshttp://www.hawkins.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-43596687344681709562017-03-17T16:49:05.216+00:002017-03-17T16:49:05.216+00:00There still seems to be a considerable amount of h...There still seems to be a considerable amount of half-knowledge and confusion about what the Pope IS at liberty to change and what he ISN'T at liberty to change. That is how it is, folks. <br />(--and absolutely no point in abusing me for saying it..)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-71523231086022204822017-03-17T16:41:28.059+00:002017-03-17T16:41:28.059+00:00Both for USA Benedictines. To minister un US. Both for USA Benedictines. To minister un US. Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-37043388550916615782017-03-17T16:05:46.631+00:002017-03-17T16:05:46.631+00:00Yes Pat please tell us about the deacons you ordai...Yes Pat please tell us about the deacons you ordained Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-78284266579897307322017-03-17T15:15:36.064+00:002017-03-17T15:15:36.064+00:00Pat perhaps you should remove the 11.01 commentPat perhaps you should remove the 11.01 commentFly on Th Wallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12520198020314816276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-20978163078398419632017-03-17T14:36:37.717+00:002017-03-17T14:36:37.717+00:00+Pat the pope seems as you say to talk the talk no...+Pat the pope seems as you say to talk the talk now he's no youngster and certainly won't rock the boat. He I believe wants to reach out and stirring the emotional pool of those who are marginalized and smelling like dirty sheep. But honestly do you think its going to make a blind bit of difference what he says.<br />His foot soliders just ignore him any and quoate whatever they see as the way. I am evident of that.Big Hankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00937603095036374725noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-25011062782933515882017-03-17T14:31:17.171+00:002017-03-17T14:31:17.171+00:00You mentioned yesterday ordaining deacons. Surely ...You mentioned yesterday ordaining deacons. Surely it is not a secret, who when where why Pat give us more information is your ranks swelling or the some other protestant ranks? I believe you should be on a recruitment trail Pat after all the work goes on when you are gone from this earthly piece of misery.<br /><br />What say you Pat I'd love to know about who is being ordained in Armagh as deacon, will they be priest, bishop, cardinal or Nun?.<br /><br />The wind needs to blow through the open windows Pat after all the Romans would rather destroy the "many who are called"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-16836887948550176882017-03-17T13:06:23.351+00:002017-03-17T13:06:23.351+00:0011.01 presents as frustrated and childlike. Use of...11.01 presents as frustrated and childlike. Use of swear words and toilet humour sometimes betrays one who is repressed and presented with situations they are unwilling or unable to change. Fly on Th Wallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12520198020314816276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-47151529578969911842017-03-17T12:45:19.864+00:002017-03-17T12:45:19.864+00:00Pope Francis promotes the extreme homophobia of de...Pope Francis promotes the extreme homophobia of denying any value in gay relationships, "as for proposals to place unions between homosexual persons on the same level as marriage, there are absolutely no grounds for considering homosexual unions to be in any way similar or even remotely analogous to God’s plan for marriage and family." To refuse to support committed same sex love is far worse than praying for gays to be cured. And Francis has done nothing but enable Vatican attempts to "cure" gay men. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-36720794435805326452017-03-17T12:43:45.374+00:002017-03-17T12:43:45.374+00:00The most ridiculous lie in the media is how the po...The most ridiculous lie in the media is how the pope is a reformer with liberal traits. All popes have made changes and there are no signs of him doing anything about the growth of fundamentalist orders in the Church and the dreadfully creepy new Missal which is more medieval than the last one.<br /><br />Some liberals and gay people kid themselves that the Catholic Church is changing. People in the Middle Ages whose membership of the Church enabled the Church to butcher and burn heretics told themselves the same thing. Nevertheless even if they condemned the violence their mere membership of the Church made them complicit.<br />The pope reaches out to "sinners" in the hope that they will change and fit the Catholic ethos or at least that they will be so soft on church violations of human rights that they will become complicit.<br /><br />"WHO AM I TO JUDGE?"<br />Re Pope Francis December 2013<br /><br />The pope said of gays, "Who am I to judge?" I am tired of people thinking that is progress. It only reflects Catholic doctrine that gay people are sinners but only God can know exactly how sinful they are and will judge them accordingly. The pope merely meant he cannot judge not that gay people should not be judged and punished by God. In fact, people would be better off being judged by the pope as Jesus warned that God gives you an unfair judgement if you judge others unfairly. Media stupidity over this papacy is getting very very irritating.<br />Regarding Gay Rights supporters praising Pope Francis for saying he does not judge gays and boasting how he is promoting their acceptance in the Church I have this to say. While some gay people suffer a fantasist episode that they are going to get proper acceptance by the Catholic Church, they make the Church attractive to others. And when these new recruits get a taste for Catholicism, and then find out that its teaching is intolerant and bigoted to the degree of saying that unrepented homosexuality deserves everlasting punishment in Hell, some of them will start to support that teaching. The pro-pope gays are enabling homophobia and are in denial where Catholic and papal homophobia are concerned.<br /><br />Pope Francis on violence against children, "“One time, I heard a father in a meeting with married couples say ‘I sometimes have to smack my children a bit, but never in the face so as to not humiliate them’,” Francis said.<br /><br />“How beautiful.” he added. “He knows the sense of dignity! He has to punish them but does it justly and moves on.”<br /><br />Pope Francis on women's inferiority to men so that they cannot be ordained priests, "The Church has spoken and says no. . . . That door is closed". He repeated the Church cannot ever ordain women in November 2016 because it is an objective fact that women cannot be ordained. Please note that if a woman becomes a man the man cannot become a priest so clearly the pope is being implicitly transphobic. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-36345359607981643482017-03-17T12:11:54.211+00:002017-03-17T12:11:54.211+00:0011:01 Thank you for letting us know the quality of...11:01 Thank you for letting us know the quality of Benny's excrement :-)<br /><br />Are you an expert in that area?<br /><br />You are also obviously sensitive to the recent declaration by the Irish Government on Travellers being a Distinct Ethnic Community.<br /><br />Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-31232044630500607122017-03-17T12:09:08.711+00:002017-03-17T12:09:08.711+00:00Thank you :-)Thank you :-)Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-9958825130606424052017-03-17T12:06:04.422+00:002017-03-17T12:06:04.422+00:0011:01, he has never protected clerical paedophiles...11:01, he has never protected clerical paedophiles, though, has he? I'd say that shows not just considerable intelligence, but far greater moral decency.Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-70416317313495454072017-03-17T12:05:58.871+00:002017-03-17T12:05:58.871+00:00Happy feast day.Happy feast day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-19115242172558100722017-03-17T11:58:22.671+00:002017-03-17T11:58:22.671+00:00Much of Patrick is indeed myth - especially the co...Much of Patrick is indeed myth - especially the contention that he was either consecrated or sent to Ireland by Rome.Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.com