tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post6436553445613302879..comments2024-03-12T19:57:41.861+00:00Comments on THINKING CATHOLICISM: DEFROCKED NUNCIO WAS USING TEENAGE PROSTITUTESThinking Catholicismhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-49125379020657982012014-07-11T17:52:01.102+01:002014-07-11T17:52:01.102+01:00Another stunning contribution from the UKIP voting...Another stunning contribution from the UKIP voting theologian that is Ros Common Man!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-90065262578326925732014-07-10T20:48:27.527+01:002014-07-10T20:48:27.527+01:00Well said Mother of 6.SeanWell said Mother of 6.Seanroscommonmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08748800697962234196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-3017770665260747532014-07-08T21:57:46.751+01:002014-07-08T21:57:46.751+01:00Mother of 6 - Belfast, my heart goes out to you tr...Mother of 6 - Belfast, my heart goes out to you truly and I know what you are trying to say. But there is an absolute difference between a man, be he a married man, priest, archbishop, engaging the services of a prostitute, albeit an underage one, and the same adult predaciously seeking out a child, grooming them and then eventually sexually attacking them. I am trying to take the heat out of this scenario and bring some light. It is also recognised by those who are experts in the pathology that is sexual offending against children that alcohol can often be a contributing trigger and factor. That is not the same as saying that it is an excuse. There is no excuse. Sexual offending against children, be they prostitute or not, is always and in every instance gravely sinful and wrong. All the more so when the perpatrator is a minister of religion. However, I was trying to shed some light on the situation of this man to indicate that it is not balck and white, but in reality there is a lot of grey. As Bishop Pat said earlier, the defrocked archbishop is a product of a deeply repressed guilt-ridden Poland (rather like Ireland), who entered the seminary as a boy and remained a boy in his emotional development. He too is a victim. Lets not forget that amid the hysteria and rush to condemn. We need to develop a new and creative approach as to how we deal with offenders, be they in the Church, or outside of it. FVOAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-80154956043384559332014-07-08T19:17:44.783+01:002014-07-08T19:17:44.783+01:00Being a member of the RC Clergy is a strange state...Being a member of the RC Clergy is a strange state of affairs! Perhaps it is only when one experiences it from the inside that one can have a stab at explaining what it is like. In my own experience I sometimes find it difficult to find the words. I see it something like this. Most people have difficulty or a problem in their life at one time or another. The same is true of clergy except many clergy are not good at facing up to issues such as sexuality or alcohol so the issue festers. I recall when Bishop Christy Jones wanted me to withdraw and reflect on my situation. My gut reaction was "brainwash" so I upped sticks and legged it. All I can reflect and say is that R C clergyland is not person friendly environment for the average normal human being. Some anonymous bystander could pose the question "am I normal"? I would answer and say that this is a whole other story. All I can say is that currently I am happy in my skin. Seanroscommonmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08748800697962234196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-51032927168260084292014-07-08T18:46:31.329+01:002014-07-08T18:46:31.329+01:00How can anyone make a distinction between abusing ...How can anyone make a distinction between abusing a child who is a prostitute and a child who is not?<br /><br />Surely such children are victims of some form of "trafficking" - either by their parents or others. So they are DOUBLE VICTIMS.<br /><br />Then an archbishop comes along and makes them victims all over again.<br /><br />Alcohol is no excuse.<br /><br />Mother of 6 - BelfastAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-64074756838998318102014-07-08T14:51:52.909+01:002014-07-08T14:51:52.909+01:00I think Francis was right to make financial arrang...I think Francis was right to make financial arrangements for the priest's partner and child.<br /><br />But unless the priest loved the woman there was very little point in him making the priest leave the priesthood.<br /><br />Of course ideally if the priest and woman loved each other they should be allowed to live in a presbytery together and bring their child up openly.<br /><br />I cannot see too many Catholics in South America worrying about such an arrangement. Many priests in South America have partners openly - men and women.<br /><br />But it does show a very "churchy" mindset in Francis.<br /><br />As for Sean Brady - he should have been retired years ago.<br /><br />PatThinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-14053760106115482922014-07-08T14:39:23.008+01:002014-07-08T14:39:23.008+01:00I have heard from many sources that while Francis ...I have heard from many sources that while Francis is indulgent with the laity he is merciless with the clergy, especially if they are caught with their pants down. There is a story from his diocese that a very popular charismatic priest fathered a child and came to his archbishop begging forgiveness and promising to behave in the future. Francis gave his absolution, but then ordered him out of the ministry and set him up financially to support his child and her mother. Will he sack Cardinal Sean Brady in light of what an Irish abuse survivor asked him yesterday? Or wait until Brady is 75 this August and diplomatically accept his resignation the day it is offered. We need actions from this pope as well as words.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com