tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post6517706339392485132..comments2024-03-12T19:57:41.861+00:00Comments on THINKING CATHOLICISM: MY CRIMINAL RECORDThinking Catholicismhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comBlogger30125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-15533008295813453262016-06-29T15:22:30.691+01:002016-06-29T15:22:30.691+01:00Thank god for my catholic religion. Thank god for my catholic religion. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01113002304103195105noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-42306333972410330132014-09-14T18:48:37.710+01:002014-09-14T18:48:37.710+01:00In my view the pope is not the anti Christ.
For m...In my view the pope is not the anti Christ.<br /><br />For me the "anti-Christ" is all that is anti Christ - including the Roman Institution - and indeed other man made churches that put their own agenda before Jesus and his message.<br /><br />There is a difference between being a Catholic bishop and a Roman Catholic Bishop.<br /><br />The Archbishop of Canterbury is a Catholic Bishop.<br /><br />PatThinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-39044258001095534502014-09-14T18:43:21.744+01:002014-09-14T18:43:21.744+01:00So you believe then that the pope is the antichris...So you believe then that the pope is the antichrist and all that? and there you are in the pics above dressed up as a catholic bishop.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-48646285112306485292014-09-14T18:31:30.161+01:002014-09-14T18:31:30.161+01:00The sad thing is that must of what Ian Paisley sai...The sad thing is that must of what Ian Paisley said about the Roman Church was true.<br /><br />The sad thing is that he said it with so much hatred.<br /><br />PatThinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-85602182517595102632014-09-14T18:27:22.662+01:002014-09-14T18:27:22.662+01:00Pat Buckley is a strange hybrid indeed. he writes ...Pat Buckley is a strange hybrid indeed. he writes with all the vitriol of a paisleyite or American deep south fundamentalist against the catholic church. In another life he probably would have become one of those "converted", "ex-priests" the fundamentalist haters love to parade around their rallies. but of course he can't because these anti-catholics would send him to hell as quick as look at him because of his gayness and HIVness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-54939040358534853512014-09-14T16:34:41.606+01:002014-09-14T16:34:41.606+01:00Dear Priest,
Thank you for taking the time to com...Dear Priest,<br /><br />Thank you for taking the time to comment and express your views and beliefs.<br /><br />I do not agree with much you have said.<br /><br />But I would totally defend your right to have these beliefs and your absolute right to express them openly.<br /><br />PatThinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-61529100862973397762014-09-14T16:28:59.843+01:002014-09-14T16:28:59.843+01:00That 'proud and obedient priest' is wrong ...That 'proud and obedient priest' is wrong in threatening Rev Pat Buckley with hell. He has no right to do so. Only Almighty God knows those whose free choice and deliberate rejection of God's Grace will result in the ruin of their immortal souls and their going to Hell.<br />Also, there is no such thing as the "Roman Catholic Church". There is only the Catholic Church as founded by Jesus Christ and entrusted to the pastoral care of Peter and his successors. Peter was established by Christ Himself in his ministry and it is evident that the Lord intended this for all time; otherwise the Word of God recorded in the Gospels to Peter is rendered absurd and irrelevant. This cannot be the case as 'the Word of the Lord endures forever'.<br />The Catholic Church would inevitably change from its primitive form in the actual days of Peter and the other apostles and early disciples. This too is part of the design of God for His Church. Furthermore, the Catholic Church embraces in itself all people being saved, even those who have never heard of Christ or the Gospel but who live lives of love in the world according to the lights they have received, which are present even in natural reason. <br />The Catholic Church has invisible boundaries and, through the Holy Spirit's Grace, includes those in other Christian communions of good will and those of other religions, who seek God with a sincere heart and desire to do His Will.<br />While it is true that the Catholic Church has visible structures, it is also the invisible communion of Love created by God Who desires that all people be saved and come to knowledge of the Truth. Love/Charity knows no bounds and God's Grace transcends the unfortunate divisions that have arisen in the Body of His Son, the Church - even when these separations are contrary to His Will and we must be striving to heal them as Christ prayed - 'That They May be One'.<br />It is nonsense to say, however, that we do not need the Church and can have Christ without the Church; for the Body is united with the Head, namely Jesus Christ.<br />It is wrong to speak of the "Roman Catholic Institution". There is no such thing. Anti-catholic extremists invented this phrase out of hostility for the true Church of Jesus Christ. There is sin in the Church, as we well know and corruption; but these evils will never prevail. No matter how great the number of sins grace is even greater. Despite the many sinners in the Church (including throughout her history, even popes and prelates), there is the great multitude of the faithful who have loved God and faithfully served Him. And this is also true today. <br />Priest, Down and Connor. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-34221437973581022952014-09-14T10:00:54.927+01:002014-09-14T10:00:54.927+01:00Maybe if she contacted jubilee Jim he could mail h...Maybe if she contacted jubilee Jim he could mail her the authentic Jesus via airmail??? (In house joke jane)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-75277862029296978602014-09-14T09:35:37.743+01:002014-09-14T09:35:37.743+01:00Jane - no, not a "con eucharist" at all,...Jane - no, not a "con eucharist" at all, but not the Holy Eucharist. The communion (with a small c) offered by non Roman Catholic and Orthodox Churches is not the transubstantiated Body and Blood of Christ, Soul and Divinity, as solemnly proclaimed by the Church. This is by their own admission. For all those non Catholic's you mention they would see the act of eucharist as being one of communion and fellowship, but not of actually partaking in the eating and drinking of the actual body and blood of Christ. You seem reasonably theologically literate, so will know the teachings of Luther, Calvin and Zwingli on these matters. I state again, and this is my last word on the subject, that if you wish to receive the actual Eucharist instituted by Christ on the night before He died, you will only ever receive that from a Roman Catholic or Orthodox priest. That is the Truth whatever others may say to you. Still, Pat seems to have found someone that you can go to for support and communion. But it will not be the Holy Eucharist that you receive from his or her hands, I am sorry to tell you. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-79821414179261830842014-09-13T21:02:00.416+01:002014-09-13T21:02:00.416+01:00Well said D&C Priest of 18:58 comment to the &...Well said D&C Priest of 18:58 comment to the "proud and obedient" one. I would have said the same, maybe stronger, but it's so much better coming from you, another priest of the diocese,rather than an outsider like me.<br />That man keeps returning with comments laced with bile and narrow minded righteousness, never honestly debating an issue, but simply making personal attacks and relying on veiled threats and similar.<br />MournemanMichaelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-24314644952737161152014-09-13T19:03:54.589+01:002014-09-13T19:03:54.589+01:00Coming up on 1916 - were not people like Padraig P...Coming up on 1916 - were not people like Padraig Pearse and James Connolly and others guilty of conspiracy against the British?<br /><br />Should Pat not have a medal to go along with his conviction?<br /><br />Republican - West Belfast.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-86507571259463811792014-09-13T18:58:25.494+01:002014-09-13T18:58:25.494+01:00Dear 'proud and obedient priest",
Would ...Dear 'proud and obedient priest",<br /><br />Would you ever wise up ! Its comments like yours that fill me with despair for the future of our diocese. "Proud and obedient" to what ? A church system ? A Bishop ?(who is bringing the church into disrepute by his outlandish spending at Lisbreen) Or Jesus ? Have you ever asked the Bishop to explain any of his actions to you or are you in the"anything for a quiet life club" ? <br />Do you realise the huge problems that face our diocese at this time ? Do you care about them ? Are you prepared to challenge authority when you believe it to be in the wrong ? I both in writing, and face to face have laid before + Noel Treanor some serious concerns that I and some other priests have in relation to D&C. <br />So dear brother priest before you start launching 'canonical missiles' in the direction of Larne, might I respectively suggest that that you look closer to home to find 'systems' in need of urgent reform ? <br />Your type of comment is the lazy way to engage about church matters. Why don't you make some suggestions for improving D&C as I have done regularly on this blog, rather than invective comments which really add nothing to the debate ?<br /><br />Priest of D&C.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-1267757222752462332014-09-13T18:57:21.688+01:002014-09-13T18:57:21.688+01:00Pat,
You got a "criminal record" trying...Pat,<br /><br />You got a "criminal record" trying to help people - immigrants - and those of us who know the whole story believe that you, by an excess of compassion - were taken advantage of.<br /><br />You also had the legal "disability" of not being beloved of the N I establishment.<br /><br />Considering what some members of your profession have done over the years - both by criminal behaviour - and by the criminal obstruction of justice - I would personally say you can hold your head high.<br /><br />Belfast Lawyer Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-82849228055281110262014-09-13T18:47:33.713+01:002014-09-13T18:47:33.713+01:00Thanks Sean.
When Nelson Mandela was given the fr...Thanks Sean.<br /><br />When Nelson Mandela was given the freedom of an Irish city / town he introduced himself as follows:<br /><br />"I am Nelson Mandela.<br />I am unemployed.<br />I am a pensioner.<br />I have a criminal record."<br /><br />We are in good company.<br /><br />PatThinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-37600992403089667222014-09-13T18:47:22.575+01:002014-09-13T18:47:22.575+01:00Well said Mr Orangeman. I am a recycled papist in ...Well said Mr Orangeman. I am a recycled papist in the church of england. Christianity is bigger than one denomination and beyond political constraints. My allegience is to the Kingdom of God but I pay my taxes to the Queen. Seanroscommonmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08748800697962234196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-78098193462350395162014-09-13T18:44:02.036+01:002014-09-13T18:44:02.036+01:00Pat you are in good company. I got done for drunk ...Pat you are in good company. I got done for drunk driving, Jesus got done for being a political activist. I am not glorifying criminal records but reality has a habit of showing real people as they actually are. The proud and obedient priest reminds me of an over starched shirt. Might be squeeky clean but would you feel comfortable wearing one. Seanroscommonmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08748800697962234196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-32436252516134955452014-09-13T18:41:22.268+01:002014-09-13T18:41:22.268+01:00Pat, I like the honesty of today's Blog.
You ...Pat, I like the honesty of today's Blog.<br /><br />You are proof that THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE<br /><br />Your Brother Priest - ArmaghAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-71766515617354636622014-09-13T18:39:01.903+01:002014-09-13T18:39:01.903+01:00Father,
You are listening to much to Handle Messi...Father,<br /><br />You are listening to much to Handle Messiah<br /><br />PatThinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-77850737148151001662014-09-13T18:30:15.658+01:002014-09-13T18:30:15.658+01:00Buckley,
You are a heretic and a schismatic. You ...Buckley,<br /><br />You are a heretic and a schismatic. You have placed yourself outside The One True Church and unless you repent you will burn in Hell. Go to Bishop Treanor and receive alsolution for your grave sins and regularise yourself with the Bishop of Rome. <br /><br />Proud and obedient priest of D&CAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-66326770781126209992014-09-13T18:25:54.883+01:002014-09-13T18:25:54.883+01:00Tommy ! Surprise ! Remember you all well.
Look fo...Tommy ! Surprise ! Remember you all well.<br /><br />Look forward to seeing you after all this tme.<br /><br />PatThinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-87382795850999729732014-09-13T18:24:33.850+01:002014-09-13T18:24:33.850+01:00Jane,
Today I contacted an independent catholic p...Jane,<br /><br />Today I contacted an independent catholic priest in California and he is going to let me know of churches in your area of California that will not only make you welcome but celebrate who and what you are with you. He tells me that there is a lot of support in his church for folk like yourself. Will be in touch to your private e mail address.<br /><br />Pat x<br />Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-84619473932396789892014-09-13T18:20:24.670+01:002014-09-13T18:20:24.670+01:00Pat,
This is a voice from the past - Tommy from t...Pat,<br /><br />This is a voice from the past - Tommy from the Shankhill Road in Belfast. 30 years ago this month 5 of us all aged 18 - 3 guys and 2 girls arrived at your door one morning in Larne after we ran away. You brought us in and gave us breakfast and let us sleep in your dining room. Most of us only stayed a few days but Kim stayed on in your house for a year. I remember your mother was there too. Your housekeeper did not like us there and she said that either she or us would have to go and you said that because she had a home and we didn't it would have to be her :-) The one who stole the fiver from you - David - was stabbed a few years ago in a row in McDonalds :-( My girlfriend at the time, June, is now married with her own kids. If its ok I will call and see you someday I am up Larne way. Can't believe where 30 years has gone.<br /><br />Tommy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-44031394030867322282014-09-13T17:40:37.773+01:002014-09-13T17:40:37.773+01:00And I will not find it in a church that is NOT in ...And I will not find it in a church that is NOT in comunion with your Rome?<br /><br />What kind of Eucharist then did Archbishop Desmond Tutu give to the millions of Blacks in South Africa - what that a "con" eucharist?<br /><br />Did Martin Luther King receive a con eucharist?<br /><br />Are all the millions of good Protestants deceiving themselves every Sunday?<br /><br />Was Jesus in "communion with Rome"?<br /><br />More importantly: "Is Rome still in communion with Jesus".<br /><br />It is interesting that in your two messages to me today you never mentioned Jesus. You mentioned Rome, excommunication, "a divinis". Roman Catholic, "catholic" support groups.<br /><br />"Get behind me Satan"<br /><br />Jane<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-41532726096584111772014-09-13T17:31:06.859+01:002014-09-13T17:31:06.859+01:00Jane - I am sorry that you were treated as you say...Jane - I am sorry that you were treated as you say by your pastor. Again I reiterate that if you wish to receive the Holy Eucharist (and you did say originally that is what you wished-for) then you will only find that in the Roman Catholic Church, those in Communion with Her, and the Orthodox Churches.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-71767521177040587922014-09-13T16:00:18.603+01:002014-09-13T16:00:18.603+01:00Reverend,
I have already been to my Pastor and ha...Reverend,<br /><br />I have already been to my Pastor and having told me I was disgusting and not to come back he asked me to leave the rectory and not to turn up for holy communion. <br /><br />I do not know, or want to know, all your crap about "a divinis" etc.<br /><br />I want a church and a pastor who will accept me as I am, support me and my family and strengthen me with the sacraments.<br /><br />I now know FOR CERTAIN that this is not available to me in your church in which Jesus is clearly not present. <br /><br />Jane<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com