tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post680312534860936520..comments2024-03-12T19:57:41.861+00:00Comments on THINKING CATHOLICISM: FERNS DIOCESE - HOMOSEXUAL SUBCULTURE?Thinking Catholicismhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-15960308710746468662016-09-22T00:55:21.587+01:002016-09-22T00:55:21.587+01:00You need to brush up on your geography of Irish di...You need to brush up on your geography of Irish dioceses - Clogher is no more scattered than many other dioceses such as Tuam, Kerry, Meath, Killaloe, Down & Connor. Yes, we are vast in area, stretching from Bundoran on the Atlantic coast to within a few miles of Dundalk in the East but we do require a bishop soon. AS for joining with the C of I......not a bloody chance in a border diocese like Clogher!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-3148631875312742692016-09-21T07:39:59.137+01:002016-09-21T07:39:59.137+01:00Yeap, more pastors and less priestcraft. Get rid o...Yeap, more pastors and less priestcraft. Get rid of the celibacy rule except for monks, nuns and those in orders if they so desire.How can one give a kiss of life to a dying church in the West in the twenty first century if the very institution rules against those wanting to be pastors with medieval rules made by an eleventh century pope-king who would most probably be burning in some eleventh level of hell if there ever were such a place.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-18429883754873426012016-09-21T06:56:21.125+01:002016-09-21T06:56:21.125+01:00Yes, 71 in July past......bad health.Yes, 71 in July past......bad health.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-3994859254477631722016-09-21T04:40:07.496+01:002016-09-21T04:40:07.496+01:00So homophobes anonymously denounce 8 gay priests. ...So homophobes anonymously denounce 8 gay priests. So different from Pope Francis: "If someone is gay and seeks earnestly after God, who am I to judge?", said with reference to gay priests.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-2197126067060508572016-09-21T01:02:03.194+01:002016-09-21T01:02:03.194+01:00Does Clgher really need a bishop now that there ar...Does Clgher really need a bishop now that there are so few clergy.<br />Best if it were almalgamated with another area, it was always a very scattered dioceses.Another possibility is join with the Cof I.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-53819017250386424342016-09-21T00:17:42.903+01:002016-09-21T00:17:42.903+01:00If there were more bishops in Ireland like +Denis ...If there were more bishops in Ireland like +Denis Brennan we would be doing very well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-39692360229817663182016-09-21T00:16:26.270+01:002016-09-21T00:16:26.270+01:00Heaven preserve Clogher - and every other diocese ...Heaven preserve Clogher - and every other diocese - from Tim Bartlett!! Mind you Bartlett kissed Joe Useless Duffy's backside long and often enough.<br /><br />Eugene Sweeney is a good man though. He would be a good choice after Duffy and his clone, McDaid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-82074900295704527192016-09-21T00:02:59.948+01:002016-09-21T00:02:59.948+01:00Is McDaid not only 71?Is McDaid not only 71?Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-32659941459351980492016-09-20T23:39:34.651+01:002016-09-20T23:39:34.651+01:00We in Clogher are waiting on a new bishop and we d...We in Clogher are waiting on a new bishop and we despair at who we will get. We hope for an outsider because we've had local guys since 1970 and it's been one long disaster - no leadership or vision......our diocese is dying a slow death. We have 6 priests under 50 so we're up the creek without a paddle. An outsider can't be any worse. Please God it won't be Tim Bartlett......it may be Frank Bradley from Derry or Eugene Sweeney from Armagh.<br />Some of you will say 'hang on a second, when did Clogher become vacant?' It becomes vacant at the end of this month - the dogs in the street knows it. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-50899284530073734572016-09-20T22:54:49.686+01:002016-09-20T22:54:49.686+01:00"What is heartbreaking is that so many famili..."What is heartbreaking is that so many families have already suffered physical and emotional abuse by clergy, especially FATHER SEAN FORTUNE, and these abuses are continuing by other clergy".<br /><br />Sean Fortune's abuses are "continuing by other clergy"??? ARE THEY REALLY??? You "good and loyal" folk need to go to the Gardai urgently, if you know this to be true. Otherwise, you all are every bit as bad as Sean Fortune.<br /><br />I believe, however, this letter to the nuncio is a mischievous little exercise by a small group of malcontents with a very particular agenda.<br /><br />They do not know the difference between the reign of terror and utter devastation, wrought by a maniac like Sean Fortune, on Ferns diocese - and the ALLEGED activities of some ALLEGED "gay" priests they don't like.<br /><br />Bishop Brennan does not deserve the nasty antics of the individuals behind this vicious little exercise. He is an honourable and good man. He is held in the highest affection and esteem by the people and priests of the diocese. He is truly a genuine pastor chosen from among the good priests of Ferns - an inspired choice to tend our deeply wounded diocese.<br /><br />Only a very few twisted individuals could possibly be behind this slur and slander. One or two maladjusted clergy could also be involved. This group are neither "good" nor "loyal".<br /><br />As regards the priests they are accusing - let them put up or shut up. <br /><br />I think we will find, in due course, the "good and loyal" are really a spineless and evil little knitting circle, who have nothing better to do all day but plot devious schemes. They will never succeed. <br /><br />Ferns diocese parishioner.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-25919292781265574642016-09-20T22:09:32.387+01:002016-09-20T22:09:32.387+01:00I redacted the letter.
Unlike previous situations...I redacted the letter.<br /><br />Unlike previous situations I did not know who sent the letter and was provided with no proof or evidence.<br /><br />I have no connection with Ferns and do not know any of the priests mentioned.<br /><br />If and when I meet the authors and satisfy myself about the truth of the stories I will publish names and details.Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-838334448430448882016-09-20T21:02:01.512+01:002016-09-20T21:02:01.512+01:00Pat you said that "the letter redacted reads:...Pat you said that "the letter redacted reads:" Does this mean that you redacted the letter? Or that the original letter you received had all those XXXXXX's instead of names etc.? <br />It seems very odd to me that anyone would send you a letter with these allegation and write XXXXXX instead of names of gay priests and then you would put it in your blog?? <br />If you did edit the contents of the letter and replaced the names and their jobs with XXXXXX's, I have to ask WHY?? You've named and shamed lots of gay priests in your blog, and even defenceless seminariens, but all of a sudden we are expected to believe there's lots of gay priests in one diocese? Unless of course you are protecting them by not naming them because the gay priests are your friends or acquaintances?? <br />This stinks to high heaven Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00868163092693245937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-17263405558562473132016-09-20T19:01:22.738+01:002016-09-20T19:01:22.738+01:00I hope the people of Ferns contact you Pat and I k...I hope the people of Ferns contact you Pat and I know you will treat their names with respect. In CoE I believe the official line is that gay clergy are expected to remain celibate but in practice the reaction can range from complete tolerance to the opposite extreme. Many would say they are in a period of discernment-the jury is considering the issue... As for the ferns clergy Are they being "Appropriate" with each other and others. Are church funds being used as they should. Bishop needs to "man up" to use pun and not just tow the party line for the sake of a quiet lifeFly on Th Wallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12520198020314816276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-18162923640368579082016-09-20T17:01:02.330+01:002016-09-20T17:01:02.330+01:00A person of no substance?A person of no substance?Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-34315596119535613352016-09-20T16:57:24.438+01:002016-09-20T16:57:24.438+01:00The question also indicates that people's deep...The question also indicates that people's deepest concerns and fears are influenced by these people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-81667021512245236742016-09-20T16:42:32.813+01:002016-09-20T16:42:32.813+01:00I am concerned that we are dealing with "conc...I am concerned that we are dealing with "concerned parents", the linkage of Sean Fortune with priests misbehaving sexually, and the reference to families who have suffered physical or emotional abuse by priests. The situations that these 'concerned parents' describe relate to consenting adults in relationships or having consensual sexual encounters. If true, it certainly seems to be the case that these priests are not living out the life for which they signed up and action should be taken. And if we were talking about cases of suspected abuse, then fair enough. But we aren't. <br /><br />I detect here an underlying note of homophobia and I am not sure, given the suspect motives of the 'concerned parents', that they should be indulged with publicity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-70868470109408629902016-09-20T16:34:00.100+01:002016-09-20T16:34:00.100+01:00Expain Pat please.Expain Pat please.Happy Harry 2016https://www.blogger.com/profile/01940113939356568306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-21966781604151215602016-09-20T16:15:32.217+01:002016-09-20T16:15:32.217+01:00Non Person?Non Person?Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-993068851927655512016-09-20T16:11:11.661+01:002016-09-20T16:11:11.661+01:00What do people and Priests feel and think of Brend...What do people and Priests feel and think of Brendan Leahy in Limerick ?.Happy Harry 2016https://www.blogger.com/profile/01940113939356568306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-89077254758602594772016-09-20T15:58:54.670+01:002016-09-20T15:58:54.670+01:00I question the judgment of the nuncio given his ep...I question the judgment of the nuncio given his episcopal appointments. Doran is an egotist and adolescent. O'Reilly was a seminary professor in Africa and then a penpusher for the SMA in Cork- so that makes him eminently suitable for Cashel and Emily. Cullinane is an Opus Dei member so his 'option for the rich' will go down very well in economically deprived Waterford. Crean of Cloyne preached against the media at the recent diaconate ceremony in Maynooth, oblivious to the fact that at least two of the new ordinands were about to bring the seminary into disrepute- you hardly need to blame the media for all our woes. These new crop of bishops are very, very average by any standards. They are charisma free, intellectual lightweights, not politically astute, narrow minded and petty. They should barely make the grade as parish priests let alone bishops. How do they expect to rejuvenate a very tired and weary church?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-14602837611573740872016-09-20T15:52:47.766+01:002016-09-20T15:52:47.766+01:00To get the Pope to appoint a special commissioner ...To get the Pope to appoint a special commissioner to come in appoint a new leader, close parishes, issue dire warnings and generally terrorise and 'kick ass', they have to have done something really terrible like the Franciscan Friars of the Immaculate preferring the Latin Mass. These diocesan and seminary problems are minor compared to that one, of course.<br />ELAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-3515871675486152922016-09-20T14:39:14.885+01:002016-09-20T14:39:14.885+01:00In fairness - I should have pointed out that I am ...In fairness - I should have pointed out that I am not Ferns diocese parishioner. I'm sure he or she speak for themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-37697887893724727472016-09-20T14:37:16.837+01:002016-09-20T14:37:16.837+01:00Only saying what thousands are thinking! :-)Only saying what thousands are thinking! :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-50403414675634865622016-09-20T14:34:10.090+01:002016-09-20T14:34:10.090+01:00Now, you have just LOST your case!Now, you have just LOST your case!Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-11182559015613391792016-09-20T14:24:16.927+01:002016-09-20T14:24:16.927+01:00Anon at 14:03, as they say around these parts - go...Anon at 14:03, as they say around these parts - go f*** yerself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com