tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post8540460588743926346..comments2024-03-12T19:57:41.861+00:00Comments on THINKING CATHOLICISM: SEMINARY SUICIDESThinking Catholicismhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-84596939697804038282016-09-25T20:55:29.725+01:002016-09-25T20:55:29.725+01:00Yes.
bishoppatbuckley@hotmail.comYes.<br /><br />bishoppatbuckley@hotmail.comThinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-19154892119781127502016-09-25T20:44:44.125+01:002016-09-25T20:44:44.125+01:00And also catching a seminarian was a catch.And also catching a seminarian was a catch.Brian Cassidynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-651024377736219602016-09-25T20:42:03.135+01:002016-09-25T20:42:03.135+01:00Pat, thank u for publishing my comments, even thou...Pat, thank u for publishing my comments, even though critical of aspects of your work. How can I private message u?Brian Cassidynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-81701758915513145492016-09-25T17:15:21.178+01:002016-09-25T17:15:21.178+01:00Also I would have put u down as a "judge not&...Also I would have put u down as a "judge not" sort of person so why are u so strict on this? I do take yr point that it is hypocritical to preach against same sex marriage if having gay sex. I was a seminarian in the Ledwith era and was only aware of one active gay man, though no doubt there were others. The main issue then was the girlfriends and secret liaisons with women. Some female lay students liked hanging around with seminarians as they tended to be older and perhaps more sensitive/better listeners. Brian Cassidynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-80405121711260594062016-09-25T17:08:47.147+01:002016-09-25T17:08:47.147+01:00Pat, I know from press reports that over the years...Pat, I know from press reports that over the years you have not had the best time of it from the church, and I think you are right to highlight the shortcomings of seminary behaviour. You are also right to comment on the bishops who moved abusing priests around. They should have been laicised and handed over to the courts as accessories.<br /><br />That said may I add I don't understand the very personalised nature of your campaign and the hounding of individuals, including the Dublin deacon. Do you consider the impact on his mental health. There is a risk of another suicide at this rate.Brian Cassidynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-27242951057374058002016-09-23T18:30:32.591+01:002016-09-23T18:30:32.591+01:00HELP!!!
WHY CANT I SEE THE MORE RECENT POSTS?!? T...HELP!!!<br /><br />WHY CANT I SEE THE MORE RECENT POSTS?!? THIS APPEARS TO BE THE MOST RECENT ONE?!? IS IT?!? HAVE THE MORE RECENT ONES BEEN DELETED?!?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-31427923584661746562016-09-18T21:15:14.439+01:002016-09-18T21:15:14.439+01:00Pat, is there daily Mass at Larne?Pat, is there daily Mass at Larne?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-12736662663373947192016-09-18T01:52:16.820+01:002016-09-18T01:52:16.820+01:00Young Michael was being abused in 1st year by bein...Young Michael was being abused in 1st year by being forcibly exposed to pornography and obscene messages. The Dean, Tom Fogarty, was informed.<br /><br />In 3rd year, Michael Deegan ended his life.<br /><br />It is highly likely that the early abuse, which he found so distressing, (as the priest now serving in England who found him crying one night and brought him to Fogarty, has testified), escalated to full-on contact sexual assault and, quite possibly, rape.<br /><br />It is established that sexual predators often "groom" their victims by exposing them to pornography, before subjecting them to physical contact/invasive/penetrative, sexual assault and battery.<br /><br />Whatever the actual details of what happened to Michael, we know that, before his 21st birthday, he could take no more and he ended his earthly life.<br /><br />This story is sad beyond words and those, with any information on what happened to Micheal Deegan in Thurles Seminary, should go to the Guards or contact Bishop Pat, who will direct it to the criminal and civil authorities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-55838838697699321272016-09-18T00:13:34.437+01:002016-09-18T00:13:34.437+01:00I am a traditional Catholic (not 'Roman Cathol...I am a traditional Catholic (not 'Roman Catholic' - that was a name thought up by Elizabethan Anglicans who wanted to cling onto the idea that they were a separate 'branch' of the Catholic Church). However, asides aside, I disagree with you profoundly on the most basic theological matters but believe that you might succeed in doing some great good here. Some (perhaps these days many) Catholic bishops, priests and religious seem to have come to regard the priesthood or religious life as a career or as a means of pursuing a certain lifestyle rather than a unique calling to a life of constant prayer, enormous sacrifice and a constant quest for saintliness and to encourage others to do so as far as possible. To have joined the priesthood without that calling (or to have adopted it later) is clearly an enormous affront to God BUT to have done so consciously in order to enable oneself to sin sexually, to be the centre of attention, to live an easy life, or to steal/abuse the monies of the poor or even to act, in unbelief as an agnostic social worker raises the prospect of a terrible and eternal fate. It is to be piously hoped that some, maybe only one, guilty of these sins might come to fear the prospect of eternal rejection by God as being more important than the loss of those illicit things and to resign or allow those real graces offered to the sincere ordinand to finally flow by true repentance.<br />ELAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-13170360762356466332016-09-17T22:13:10.864+01:002016-09-17T22:13:10.864+01:00Well said.Well said.Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-49828245646797718642016-09-17T21:36:47.908+01:002016-09-17T21:36:47.908+01:00A bishop in Armagh province
Lol well now that is a...A bishop in Armagh province<br />Lol well now that is a laughAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-54378908166925414582016-09-17T21:33:19.995+01:002016-09-17T21:33:19.995+01:00Well Cardinal Brady didn't seem to shit himsel...Well Cardinal Brady didn't seem to shit himself much after he<br />Was exposed for making young teens make illegal promises<br />He still seems to enjoy his free rides to Lourdes every year with pink decoration on his headAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-67557680347269095682016-09-17T21:30:54.571+01:002016-09-17T21:30:54.571+01:00A number of sexually compromised gay bishops is th...A number of sexually compromised gay bishops is the only logical explanation for the hierarchy's failure to deal decisively with Gaynooth! <br /><br />Let's hope the bishops who are "shitting themselves" will be ousted soon so that the Church can be cleansed and healed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-25559989760627047072016-09-17T20:48:32.907+01:002016-09-17T20:48:32.907+01:00What has changed since that interview by Vincent B...What has changed since that interview by Vincent B, does anyone know?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-44678080901288243012016-09-17T20:26:18.475+01:002016-09-17T20:26:18.475+01:00I would say "active" - in more ways than...I would say "active" - in more ways than one. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-8834472581716714382016-09-17T20:11:25.194+01:002016-09-17T20:11:25.194+01:00I just might take a trip to Larne sometime on a Su...I just might take a trip to Larne sometime on a Sunday at 12.<br />Love to hear inspirational wee talks, just like I get when I go out of my way to listen to Brian Darcy....<br />I will comment after I make the journey there.<br />So far I'm inspired by your blog Pat...every dayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-40558172957026149422016-09-17T19:57:10.826+01:002016-09-17T19:57:10.826+01:00A secretary to a bishop in the Armagh province has...A secretary to a bishop in the Armagh province has been told by their bishop that on the back of this blog and where it is slowly going that at least four bishops are shitting themselves. He did not expand on whether they were active, retired, Ordinaries of Auxillaries.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-28638433663494258682016-09-17T18:49:22.662+01:002016-09-17T18:49:22.662+01:00Not at all! For 30 years now it is absolutely open...Not at all! For 30 years now it is absolutely open to EVERYONE.<br /><br />12 noon Sundays.Thinking Catholicismhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-41655267673564146372016-09-17T18:45:24.521+01:002016-09-17T18:45:24.521+01:00Pat, just a curious question. can anyone attend yo...Pat, just a curious question. can anyone attend your Oratory/mass etc, or is it just for family/friends?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-26035345268224221662016-09-17T18:26:50.770+01:002016-09-17T18:26:50.770+01:00Until you have been battered to a pulp and shoved ...Until you have been battered to a pulp and shoved through a sieve, you haven't started the journey.janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05480966555246917336noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-30499679785456214582016-09-17T18:11:39.781+01:002016-09-17T18:11:39.781+01:00Imagine that at least one of this gang of perverts...Imagine that at least one of this gang of perverts is a "priest" and has had access, for years, to teenage boys and young men, like Michael?? <br /><br />Wouldn't you think, that, in a functional seminary, the presence of any type of pornonography (gay or straight), or obscene materials, would instigate a thorough investigation by the authorities, leading to expulsions??<br /><br />And, especially, given the tragic outcome of Michael Deegan's plight and that Tom Fogarty was aware of the boy being targeted, that heaven and earth would have been moved, to discover who and what caused this horrific scenario???<br /><br />I am lost for words. I also have no doubt now, in view of this Thurles case in the 90's, in view of Gaynooth now today, that some Irish Catholic bishops and senior clerics are practising homosexuals, who are compromised and unable to take the action that is needed, to cleanse the Church of gay cabals, in Thurles then - and in Gaynooth now!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-91858171063808856532016-09-17T18:04:55.030+01:002016-09-17T18:04:55.030+01:00Fr Des Wilson has an interesting article on celiba...Fr Des Wilson has an interesting article on celibacy in The Irish Catholic: <br /> http://irishcatholic.ie/article/church-might-be-forced-move-celibacy<br />He is a sensible man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-313545370628553622016-09-17T18:02:13.818+01:002016-09-17T18:02:13.818+01:00These scumbags have no conscience. You can bet you...These scumbags have no conscience. You can bet your life they went to the wake and the funeral and made all the right noises but, when they got back to their own pansy parlours, it was all teehees and hahas. <br /><br />I know the type of these sewer rats. I hope the vile bastards are getting nervous as they await a knock on the door. They thought their evil perversions had been forgotten and the evidence of their crimes buried, with their innocent victim, in Clonoghill graveyard. They richly deserve what many sincerely hope is coming to them.<br /><br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-30817960513412946342016-09-17T17:47:13.437+01:002016-09-17T17:47:13.437+01:00They say religion is for people who want to avoid ...They say religion is for people who want to avoid hell whereas spirituality is for people who have been through hell.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-53909450446324445282016-09-17T17:46:31.242+01:002016-09-17T17:46:31.242+01:00Certainly,September 14th - 11.33 and 19.55 are of ...Certainly,September 14th - 11.33 and 19.55 are of interest!<br />Whether the ACP have influence or not (and probably not) surely there must be some competent force within the Church to change those things which MUST be changed.<br />Would be nice if someone could copy the above comments to today's! The have relevance!<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com