tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post892500857054048880..comments2024-03-12T19:57:41.861+00:00Comments on THINKING CATHOLICISM: A PRIEST SPEAKSThinking Catholicismhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16589713565062075036noreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-42048850949899229622018-03-20T20:08:36.360+00:002018-03-20T20:08:36.360+00:00Messiah / Saviour Complex - very concerning indeed...Messiah / Saviour Complex - very concerning indeed. Buckley get the help you need.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-70859094225752345552018-03-20T00:34:18.987+00:002018-03-20T00:34:18.987+00:00@,22.49
I am poster @18.05 and your confused resp...@,22.49 <br />I am poster @18.05 and your confused response doesn't make sense (but who cares!) Firstly until this moment now, I have never written the word "bloggers" so you are obviously attributing to me a post which someone else has written. Secondly , I wrote exactly what I intended to write, no more and no less . <br />Therefore I was not "wrong" in my intention or its realisation. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-91918354592233561032018-03-20T00:22:41.373+00:002018-03-20T00:22:41.373+00:0017:51 What years was he a seminarian? Diocese? Sem...17:51 What years was he a seminarian? Diocese? Seminary?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-79343219828550191182018-03-20T00:22:31.038+00:002018-03-20T00:22:31.038+00:00@ 22.49
Your response is inane and completely off ...@ 22.49<br />Your response is inane and completely off the point. I think it's you who is "playing your game" - - not the poster whom you attack. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-75918636340441085382018-03-20T00:20:42.349+00:002018-03-20T00:20:42.349+00:00Convenient allegory in which you and the Nazarene ...Convenient allegory in which you and the Nazarene are paired. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-33022867230939736292018-03-20T00:17:11.278+00:002018-03-20T00:17:11.278+00:00@ 19.29
"... you're looking at statistic...@ 19.29<br /><br />"... you're looking at statistics.." Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-15645972766299731932018-03-20T00:14:23.183+00:002018-03-20T00:14:23.183+00:0019:59 Neither has been around long enough to lend ...19:59 Neither has been around long enough to lend any credence to your conclusion. We’ll need at least 20 years to make that call. Though perhaps you’d prefer to fit the evidence to your conclusions. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-56423203364605611152018-03-20T00:12:21.589+00:002018-03-20T00:12:21.589+00:00I too think 14:52 is spot on about many clergy and...I too think 14:52 is spot on about many clergy and religious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-14163878903964807732018-03-19T23:47:15.234+00:002018-03-19T23:47:15.234+00:00He may be a religious in parish ministry, i.e. som...He may be a religious in parish ministry, i.e. someone who has a superior and a bishop, or a member of a society - a diocesan priest living in community like SPS or SSC. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-19767506682287152642018-03-19T23:44:39.169+00:002018-03-19T23:44:39.169+00:0019.29: Makey up psychology and theory from no scie...19.29: Makey up psychology and theory from no scientific, clinical data. Dream away but I suggest you educate yourself intelligently and stop reading tabloid, gutter stories. Fact not gossip is what we need. Do you understand???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-33771254040840562792018-03-19T23:39:27.340+00:002018-03-19T23:39:27.340+00:0020.43: You are confused. Very hard to understand y...20.43: You are confused. Very hard to understand your comment. What are you saying? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-61796839464315567472018-03-19T23:24:58.992+00:002018-03-19T23:24:58.992+00:0020:05 An impressive, comprehensive and extremely w...20:05 An impressive, comprehensive and extremely well written reflection. Thank you and compliments! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-17353996128916730662018-03-19T22:49:45.151+00:002018-03-19T22:49:45.151+00:00Wrong again 18.05. in your first post you said ...Wrong again 18.05. in your first post you said 'bloggers' in an indiscriminate way, not some contributors or a few or one or two contributors. But you persist in playing your game. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-69528121760698972292018-03-19T22:37:06.058+00:002018-03-19T22:37:06.058+00:0014.09 Magna, that's a good point in all fairne...14.09 Magna, that's a good point in all fairness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-13836740127939761602018-03-19T20:56:18.178+00:002018-03-19T20:56:18.178+00:00Thank you for that informed, insightful, wise and ...Thank you for that informed, insightful, wise and compassionate comment.<br /><br />Magna is impressed.Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-34704126315508792242018-03-19T20:43:58.673+00:002018-03-19T20:43:58.673+00:00Thanks 20:05 you’ve hit the right nail on the head...Thanks 20:05 you’ve hit the right nail on the head. The problem is as I’ve faced that you will need to prove you’re a clinician to have this view. <br /><br />It’s time for a reality check. The bullying and abuse would surely pass a psychological or other mental test in the eyes of a poster such as 16:40Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-38602030492860460252018-03-19T20:05:00.287+00:002018-03-19T20:05:00.287+00:00Scottish clerical politics are street fighting dir...Scottish clerical politics are street fighting dirty, rather like Scottish politics, particularly Labour politics in that part of the world. Labour and Catholics in Scotland were overwhelmingly working class, used to a hard life, and used to hard behaviour. Keith O'Brien came out of this mould, and it is no surprise that he lived harshly, both to others and himself. He was a tortured soul, not integrated and settled in his own person, denying hugely important aspects of himself and his being, which would inevitably out when his guard was down, usually where drink was involved. There is nothing unusual about that, it doesn't take being a rocket scientist to work it out.<br /><br />Cushley, who cynically exiled him from Scotland, and who probably will not allow him to be buried in Scotland, is from a slightly different mould, less manly and robust, soft faced, but with an ability to be calculating and nasty. He will not show much sympathy for O'Brien. His statement, I seem to have read, had more to do with O'Brien's victims and their wellbeing than O'Brien and his family on the day of his death. Well, that is de rigueur nowadays, victims have to come first, second and last, and everything else is discounted. It's the new victim culture we live in. I'm not making excuses for O'Brien, nor minimising his victims' hurt, but on the day of his death I would expect his successor to be slightly more kind in his comments about O'Brien. But Cushley will be thinking about his own backside and his own prospects of a red hat, and everyone he does and says about O'Brien will be sifted through that prism !<br /><br />There is a comment above about bishops having control over priests. True. There is a lot of bullying and petty vindictiveness that goes on in those relationships. I have lived with priests who were bullies, and as a young man I found that I was not able to stand up to them. The Church and clerical circles is not about the milk of human kindness, but so often about power and influence. The hardness, harshness and bullying and controlling behaviour that comes about within clerical circles, and between priests and bishops, is so often because the people involved are deeply damaged in their own psycho-emotional-sexual health, in denial about so much, which leads to nasty behaviour within their ranks. I've seen it so often. O'Brien was damaged by that himself, and went on to damage others because of his anger, self-loathing and hatred of himself. He probably would have had a happier life with a partner, in front of the fire, watching tv, and just being comfortable in his own skin. Too late now. And I wonder will he get to heaven any quicker because of his so called self-sacrifice and denial ? All I see is a man whose life was damaged and unhappy, and was only able to let himself show his true self in alcohol, authority and dysfunctional behaviour.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-28455865697924182102018-03-19T19:59:55.344+00:002018-03-19T19:59:55.344+00:0019.06: Don't delude yourself into thinking/bel...19.06: Don't delude yourself into thinking/believing that civil partnerships or same sex marriage is the nirvana you dream of! Be astute and wise in your judgments about your relationships. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-24065054832415366922018-03-19T19:29:15.122+00:002018-03-19T19:29:15.122+00:00At 16:40 the conclusion can be drawn perhaps from ...At 16:40 the conclusion can be drawn perhaps from interacting with clergy ? Psychological assessments for priesthood are recent. They are supposed to measure a candidates maturity including sexual maturity. Did you forget the recent Grindr issues in the Irish Church? The men going forward passed a psychological assessment and were deemed “ok” - but maybe that’s not clinical enough for your expertise. You’d know better because your looking at statistics, it dare I say from the “inside” Try looking at it from a human perspective. <br /><br />The church can and does destroy - why do you think so many priests are out of ministry ? Some are alcoholics others are suffering from depression and other mental health conditions. <br /><br />If you look at the pros and cons of priesthood in the current form you will have to agree it is not healthy or normal. For a man to be “called” to this dysfunctional way of life says more than any clinical study.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-81867614377978391932018-03-19T19:26:28.461+00:002018-03-19T19:26:28.461+00:00Thank ee, 17:51, You are kindness personified.😆Thank ee, 17:51, You are kindness personified.😆Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-68717569569555331562018-03-19T19:24:22.842+00:002018-03-19T19:24:22.842+00:00Ooooh! I think I struck a very tender nerve with y...Ooooh! I think I struck a very tender nerve with you pair.😆Magna Cartahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10242128271477821605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-84599701098124238082018-03-19T19:06:19.477+00:002018-03-19T19:06:19.477+00:00There is something lacking about some of them, esp...There is something lacking about some of them, especially the ones brought up by holy-water-hens. <br /><br />Civil partnership and same-sex marriage will now give young gay men a better framework for the lives. I wish it had been available when I was young.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-17315686971258366752018-03-19T19:00:01.987+00:002018-03-19T19:00:01.987+00:00ScotchScotchAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-351794540135213312018-03-19T18:58:04.252+00:002018-03-19T18:58:04.252+00:00I'm sure that's correct, unfortunately.I'm sure that's correct, unfortunately.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3543129696041324861.post-10378162430627846112018-03-19T18:56:11.753+00:002018-03-19T18:56:11.753+00:00I don't believe that this illiterate poster is...I don't believe that this illiterate poster is a priest. He purports to be both a diocesan priest, subject to a bishop yet he complains about his Superior. <br /><br />Only religious have Superiors and not once have I ever heard a diocesan priest refer to his bishop as "the Superior". These small details catch people out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com