Monday 13 August 2018

EAMON MARTIN CONTINUES ABUSE COVER-UP



ON SUNDAY MORNING EAMON MARTIN, RETURNING FROM HIS HOLIDAYS, CELEBRATED MASS IN ARMAGH CATHEDRAL.

YESTERDAY MORNING, MONDAY HE RETURNED TO HIS OFFICE AND HIS DESK.

As we speak the pedophile priest FATHER SEAN J QUINN is still being protected by Eamon Martin and is still in his presbyters in Togher Parish.



The Reason? He was previously protected by Cahal Daly and Sean Brady, and now by Eamon because he has "the dirt" on so many clergy, junior and senior  in Armagh!

MEANWHILE:

THREE YOUNG MEN ARE IN THEIR GRAVES IN CO. LOUTH GRAVEYARDS.

ONE YOUNG MAN IS IN HOSPITAL FOR THE 18TH TIME.

OTHER MEN HAVE NOT YET EMERGED.

MANY FAMILES ARE DISTRESSED AND BROKEN HEARTED.

And For Amy its business as usual.

Amy's first job: SILENCE FATHER BILL MULVIHILL.



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ARE WE KILLING OUR PRIESTS?
Dr. Marie Keenan UCD - ACP conference 2016



Introduction
Last week I got an email from an elderly Australian Priest who is working on a monograph on priesthood and he wanted my comments on his text. The time could not have been more opportune for this text to arrive as it reminded me that the struggles that clergy face in Ireland have universal features – certainly in the Western World. Interestingly the monograph is titled ‘A Priesthood Imprisoned’. I borrowed his title for my talk today … as my own view is that I am not sure whether we are Killing our Priests as is the title of this AGM but I am sure that we are imprisoning them in a prison of invisibility, silence and to a great extent impotence.  
Philosophy is Not a Luxury
I was also helped in preparing for today by the writings of a colleague in the US, Jeff Carreira, a writer whose work I read often, who was reflecting on the outcome of the Presidential election. Jeff has been writing a blog for the past decade called ‘Philosophy is not a Luxury’ because he believes that in challenging times philosophy is the first thing we need… and it is not a luxury. He maintains, rightly in my view, in the face of challenging times we are often tempted to think that philosophy is a luxury for which we don’t have time, and instead we often prefer to jump into action to address the perceived threat.
He and I share the view that in challenging times the challenges can only be successfully met with a level of thinking that is deeper than what we have been doing so far. And that is what we must do today in relation to priesthood. If our current thinking didn’t avert the crisis then why would more of it bring resolution?
Philosophy as you well know is not just an academic subject taught in universities and seminaries. It is the process through which we try to make meaning and to figure out the way forward. In doing so it consists of the stories we create to help us understand the meaning of events and circumstances … and the stories we tell ourselves about our ‘realities’ … and these in turn help shape the unfolding of our future. And there are many stories we can tell about any event or events, such as priesthood today, the challenges and opportunities, as the facts can always be made fit many different conclusions depending on how we think about them.  In challenging times deep thinking and reflection is not only a necessity, it is unavoidable. So let’s have a philosophical discussion on priesthood … one that might throw new light on events of today and might elevate from the pain of despondency.
          The Rhetoric of Priesthood and the Catholic Church
With some exceptions the rhetoric of priesthood and the Catholic Church in Ireland today is that they are kind of irrelevant … especially in the Western World. Priests are depicted at best as benignly innocent and kind or as evil and cunning, but generally not really relevant to the Modern Ireland – apart from some ceremonial duties that are part of both tradition and / or faith for some. The Catholic Church itself is often depicted as a place of cover up and political manoeuvrings…. with little to recommend it … perhaps apart from some of the statements of Pope Francis – for those with the interest to note what he says. Within this perspective and the tone of it – the dominant one in Ireland – it is of little surprise that priests and religious leaders have and are living through an emotional rollercoaster with extreme lows and some highs and we have heard Brendan articulate the lived reality of many priests in such circumstances in Ireland today. So what can priests do? Are you to sink with a ship (the Institution of the Catholic Church) that at times appears to be sinking – at least in public support and credibility (in the Western World where you live) or can you find the Rock that will keep you strong …. and maybe even thrive through such apparent adversity. How can this be achieved?
What I think is necessary is the capacity to think outside the box – to think and feel deeply about what is happening to priesthood in your times… to mourn the loss of what has gone, individually and collectively so that it can be let go without trying to cling on, and to enable the new Light of renewal to shine. Renewal comes in the wake of our grieving. Psychologists and psychotherapists teach that abnormal or complicated grief reactions occur when we cannot grieve and let go … when we want to cling on to what is no longer there, when we pretend that the past is the present and we can see no future, when we live out of outdated philosophies and approaches to our lives. In essence, complicated grief reactions occur when we are defensive and when those wonderful defence mechanisms that protect us so well at times of acute crisis start to turn into our enemy. In essence we become the Living Dead.
Maybe it is time for collective grieving for clergy …. for the Church they once knew, for the priesthood they originally entered, for the congregations they once served, for the relations with bishops and superiors they once lived …. so that they can emerge refreshed, renewed and invigorated, with increased depth of wisdom and gratitude that we know come in the wake of our grieving and the letting go and letting in. New ways of seeing and new ways of being can be born. Perhaps priesthood needs to be re-imagined for the 21st century, but this cannot occur without the necessary grieving for what has gone and without making room for new insights and philosophical perspectives to emerge.
So what I want to offer today are three streams of thought that are guiding my thinking in relation to this matter [and that is from one who has never been a priest but a mere observer – which is of course a very tentative place to stand and in which I stand in humility]. These thoughts however might help with this process of reimagining… that all of us in this room as philosophers in our own lives might pick up and consider alone and in dialogue with each other.

  1. The Changing Theology of Priesthood, the Impact of this on Priesthood today
The first stream of thought is on the changing theology of priesthood that has come in direct relationship with the child abuse situation. The once ontological change at ordination that was thought to be forever and of God’s grace is now of man and a reversible gift that is dependent on human behaviour.  I cannot but imagine that the reversing of this most sacred of certainties has created turmoil and turbulence at the very core of what it means to be an ordained and consecrated member of the Catholic priesthood for many. Irrespective of what side of the argument one was on in relation to the Ontological Change at ordination – this retrospective seismic shift in what it means to be an ordained and consecrated minister of the Catholic Church cannot but have created ‘despondency’ ‘depression’ and great uncertainty in many who believed what they were told in seminaries and places of formation. With the stroke of a pen such a fundamental can be wiped away, a position that I believe has created an unspoken rumbling earthquake under the very fabric of priesthood as once understood and believed to be. Has this making secular what was once holy any relevance to the death and depression experienced in priesthood today? I certainly believe that it has.
My belief is that all or most of you in this room took your years of seminary training seriously and when you took up your first appointment believed you were well equipped with the answers you would need for a life of ministry - or at least you knew where and how to find them. Priesthood of the seminary years was presented as secure and stable and premised on truths that could serve in all eventualities. The ontological change that occurred at ordination secured this ‘truth’. However my experience of many priests is that the security of the knowledge of the newly consecrated and ordained began to be challenged by the changing face of ministry in an increasingly complex world of the twentieth and now the twenty first centuries. Add to this the aftermath of Vatican II with the challenges it posed to the ‘certainty’ of ‘truth’ of seminary training and the new needs of priests as they readjusted – or not – to the promised outpouring of the Holy Spirit and all that was to go with this.
In Ireland at least, it is my belief that the prime source of what priests need in a changing world of ministry lies in the hearts and minds of priests themselves, but it is my impression, especially today, that you are rarely consulted in the task of identifying what those needs might be. Too often the ‘formation’ processes of seminary years which were top down, even oppressive, something to be endured, with a kind of censorship of particular topics such as love, relationship and relational living, sexuality, and especially any questioning of mandatory celibacy or blind obedience has become the mode of governance and relational living that is leaving priesthood in the Western World in such disarray. It is little wonder to me that numerous studies on priesthood from the time of Vatican II and since then in the United States and Australia always seem to conclude that while the majority of priests are coping they show signs of needing professional or emotional attention and organized help if they are to adjust adequately to the challenges of modern priesthood. Terms like emotional immaturity, (that does not prevent them from exercising their priestly function, but precludes them from being happy men and effective priests) continue to emerge in study after study. Study after study also suggests that a large proportion of priests are lacking emotional nurturing to enable mature development and that such incomplete personal development results in distant, unrewarding relationships and uneasiness about intimacy. So is this the situation in which you find yourself in today … only you know (maybe it is time for a study of priesthood in Ireland – and I would be very happy to undertake such if you were to commission same).
So let us think then what is to be done. How can priests separate from such states of 'emotional dependence' on an organization and institution that is not taking care of them – and maybe never would – that was an adolescent dream and misguided promise that ‘we’ would become your ‘family’ - and how can priests become more independent and autonomous within a collective community of the People of God - in such a way that they are ‘grown up’, are able to exercise ‘voice’, understand their limitations especially in the face of the structural limitations that a diminishing clergy population brings for them. How can priests learn to say yes to God but no to unreasonable human expectation? In all my years of working with priests No is the word I would most like to teach them to say…….. not a cold No but a warm No … not No as reflex but as part of the language repertoire of human skills that comes from the knowing of how to be human and serve God.

  1. Human Growth is a Decision ….. in God’s Grace

My second stream of thought is in relation to human growth and what it means to be human and work for God. Human growth is possible at every stage of life – and without growth we die – if not physically then emotionally, mentally, spiritually and if you like we become like ‘The Living Dead’. While I am sure that many of us agree that human growth belongs to the dynamic of God's grace, it also requires courage at an individual level and an infrastructure of support. However, no one can make an individual grow, probably not even God, as it is basically an individual's choice and decision. How often have you heard parents say to you I wish my son or husband or wife would change their ways, especially if their lives were destructive for themselves and others. How often have you felt impotent because ultimately despite your best efforts you know it was their choice? Families of people suffering from addiction problems know this only too well. They need to reach their rock bottom before they change. We all do and the same holds for priests. Making the choice to change and go for growth is difficult, even when those around you are encouraging.  The shackles of the past, the myth of the good old years, avoiding the pain of realizing what has died, keeps us in a kind of ‘frozen limbo of hope’, and it is understandable. 

Many priests with whom I have worked were brought up in a church which cherished the will and intellect. The theology was a rule based one, saturated with reason and law, devoid of a theology of love and relational living. These men were further expected to submit their minds and will to authority in obedience. They were rendered dependent – on those above, on bishops and their congregations for affirmation and approval, and on the public to keep believing in what they were doing. In this, the uniqueness and autonomy of the individual, God’s individual son, was to be eroded. Feelings and emotion were to become suspect. Love, apart from spiritual love, was for other people. So how has this education left its legacy on priesthood today? Well that is something for you to tell me. But I have some observations from my vantage point. I believe this education and way of life long living has left priests bereft … fearful of intimacy and with the breakdown in community living feeling isolated and alone. It is devastating to the morale of priests for them to feel isolated from one another, to feel isolated from the self, not understood by superiors and left alone before criticism and complaint. We only have to reference Alan Hilliard’s work on the experiences of clergy (see Studies, 2014, Winter Edition) and my own with senior clergy following the publication of the Murphy Report (see Studies, 2014, Winter Edition) to know what isolation is like when standing alone before criticism and complaint. I remember Dermot O’Mahony at this time. Alan’s study articulate this point when following the publication of the Murphy report the  first item on the agenda of some deanery meetings was the clustering of parishes!

It is not easy to be constantly available to others without recharging one's own batteries. That is a human need. It is never too late to learn how to do it. And it is worthwhile. Authentic knowledge of and care for the human self allows us to recharge our batteries without any sense of guilt and makes it possible to continue to love others without resentment or fear.

We know from what Brendan has said in his paper today and from the comments from many clergy that priesthood is undergoing a professional crisis in terms of the demands made on priests in their everyday ministry and the lack of support offered to them. Many priests report that they are extremely stretched by the workloads, feel marginalized from decision-making processes, and have little confidence in the direction in which those who do make the decisions are taking the church in this country.  However, while joining together in solidarity in organizations such as the Association of Catholic Priests can help with this in finding voice, this is not an alternative to going for personal growth and development. That is your wellbeing imperative. Clergy suffer depression through inertia.
 While we know that the Church needs systemic changes that take account of such matters and it is good to keep pressure on for same, I now have a question for you.  Are you going to sacrifice more of your precious time and life in waiting for ‘them’ to take care of you? Is it not now the time for you to go for personal growth, healing and well being with all that this entails within the context of working for the God that you love without your sacred life being sacrifice to an institution that is so much in need of reform and transformation that it has even become an enemy of those who set out to serve it.  The choice is yours. However, we are reminded in the gospels that unless the grain falls to the ground and dies it cannot bear fruit while psychologists remind that there is no gain without pain! Change cannot come from certainty – only from the search that uncertainty brings. The time is now. Resisting the change or defending the “status quo” arising from fear and/or reluctance to face the challenge of change, will not enhance your life but may cause you more stress and strain as everything changes all around you and nothing changes in living your sacred life.  
  
  1. Trauma – The Body Holds the Score
My third and final stream of thought concerns trauma and its impact and how the body keeps the score.  I don’t know if you have felt traumatized by events that have occurred in the revelations about child abuse in the Catholic Church in the past decade or more. From my vantage point the stories told by victim survivors of what they had endured brought reality into sharp focus of a Church that had failed them and human experiences that no children should have had to experience. Irish society was shocked by hearing their accounts and rightly Irish society eventually got behind the victim survivors in joining in solidarity with their outrage. This is as it should be … as we know for these victim survivors the body held the score and many of them brought the trauma of the abuse that they suffered into adulthood and into old age. With love, help and the grace of God thankfully many have and are finding peace and healing in their lives.  Love is always the antidote to trauma.

Psychiatrist Dr. Bessel Van Der Kolk’s 2014 publication ‘The Body Keeps the Score’, shines fresh light on the effects of trauma and abuse, based on brain imaging and neuroscience, and other scientific research in the field of trauma, which greatly helps those of us who study the long-term effects of trauma and are trying to develop strategies to minimise and even stem those effects. Some of this work involves the talking therapies and others bypass speech with some techniques from Mindfulness and Yoga. The basic premise of all of this work is that trauma leaves an imprint of the events on body, mind and soul – that trauma lives on in the body while the mind and brain try to manages the perceptions. For real change to occur the body needs to learn that the event has passed and that the world is safe again.
However, sometimes trauma stuff attracts trauma stuff …. and we are catapulted  back there without sign or warning. But with healing comes the change in the memory card and the knowledge that the world is safe. Sometimes trauma is also referred to as ‘the unexperienced experience’, ‘unassimilated happenings’ or in the words of Prof Ivor Brown ‘the frozen present’.  
So why am I mentioning this today? Well I am mentioning this because I feel certain that many clergy and many church leaders have been traumatised by the events that have unfolded in their lifetime in relation to child abuse. And that trauma is unacknowledged - the unexperienced experience’, ‘unassimilated happenings ‘the frozen present’. In addition how has it been for you to be accountable for the sins of your father, for the sins of your brother, for the sins of neglect by your church? Difficult I would imagine …. and the body holds the score. And how has it been for you to accept or live with some of the inaccuracies of the various reports, some of the injustices in the name of justice that were done to some participants, without redress, unlike Alan Shatter this week for whom the courts found that he was wronged in the Geiran report? The body holds the score.

I was always concerned that in the wake of the Murphy Report, Ryan Report and Cloyne report that clergy [as well of course as victim survivors and offenders] would need spaces in which the trauma of what was unfolding could be held. I am not sure what spaces you found in which to be held. The men in Alan Hilliard’s study found few if any places to be held following the publication of the Murphy report and one would want to be dead not to be deeply moved, as I was, by the stories of senior clergy and some bishops who told me of how some were abandoned and isolated, desolate and in consoled in the wake of the publication of these reports. I often wondered if sickness and illness would take hold on the bodies of such unsupported men – including yourselves – if the trauma was not acknowledged.  And it is never too late. Something to think about ….. Maybe a project of Healing Circles round the country for clergy could be next on the agenda of ACP? I will help you if you need.

And so to Conclude

In this paper of looking back and looking forward I encourage you to go for growth and healing. I urge you to consider a nationwide campaign of healing circles involving clergy - and later involving laity, victims and offenders. I urge you to reinstate forgiveness and redemption as being of God and something which we might all work to with courage. And most of all I urge you to take care of yourself in this time of uncertainty and challenge.

ARE OUR PRIESTS AND BISHOPS KILLING US?
Pat Buckley

The above address by Marie Keenan is very thought provoking and we should definitely take her points on board.

The Association of Catholic Priests has an uncanny way of always trying to present priests as victims!

And of course, sometimes priests are victims - victims of horrible bishops, victims of other priests, victims of the cynical clerical club, victims of overbearing parishioners etc.

And all these injustices suffered by priests need to be acknowledged and addressed. 

And, when priests become depressed, anxious, distressed etc by what is happening to them, they must be supported and helped.

BUT I THINK A MORE COMMON AND MORE WORRY PROBLEM THAT NEEDS ADDRESSING IS THE PROBLEM OF BISHOPS AND PRIESTS BEING PERPETRATORS IN VARIOUS WAYS -  AND LEAVING MANY VICTIMS IN THEIR WAKE.

Bishops and priests who abuse minors.

Priests who are promiscuously sexually active with men, women, and children.

Bishops and priests who are sexually active with each other and with seminarians.

Bishops and priests who know all about these activities and keep it covered up.

Bishops and priests who act in these ways are the problem.

And by their activities, they are killing us as Church.

Spiritually speaking they are crucifying Christ's Body all over again.


And I know there are many good priests out there who are doing their best.

But these men know about the carry on of their colleagues and turn a blind eye -

Because they don't want to let the side down.

Because they are afraid they will be punished for speaking out.

Because it would be bad for their career.

Because they want to be bishops, monsignors or canons.

AND THEIR SILENCE ON THESE MATTERS - THEIR INACTION ON THESE MATTERS IS SLOWLY BUT SURELY KILLING THE BODY OF CHRIST.

Such silence and such inaction must surely attract the attention of the just God we believe in?




THOUGHT FOR THE DAY

"Fear is the cheapest room in the house. I would like to see you living in better conditions"

Hafiz (1320 - 1390)

105 comments:

  1. The lyrics of that famous Celtic song comes to mind, "Here we go again".....

    The same load of diluted bull ftom Pat.

    Three men dead and still hasn't hit world media, Buckley shame on you for bringing suicide into this farcical story for your own gains.

    As for Mulvihill.... Well enough said for now!

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  2. Pat, you should have left Dr. Keenan's presentation speak its own challenge to priests. We don't require you to interpret its significance as if you're aspiritual guru of some kind. This is a presentation I have read and seriously reflected on, as have many priests. How very self righteous and arrogantly smug of you to make such definitive judgments on "good" priests! How sneering a contempt you show for the ACP. How smarmy and delusional of you to think WE need your analysis or advice! You, Pat, are becoming tiresome in your daily atrack on priests. You are nausestingly hypocritical as your own life was nit and is not as virtuous as you imagine it to be. Dr. Keenan's reflections are much more balanced, insightful, compassionate, nuanced, intelligent, inspiring, nourishing and relevant than the self serving nastiness, venom and vengance you pour out every day. As for your "continued using" of Mulvihill to support your nastiness- you are like peas in a pod! Mulvihill should join the Oratory- and then, doing what he likes and wants to do without any accountability to anyone, he might, just might find happiness. But I doubt it....

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    1. I am entitled to my opinions - on my own blog!

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    2. Why must her reflections be 'nuanced', 23:47, as if it were a literary staple?

      That word has become a cliché on this blog. And what is the etymology of a cliché? Lack of personal creativity.😆

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  3. What did I say on previous blogs, Bishop Pat (and this blog confirms it)? That there is, and never can be, such thing as a morally good Roman Catholic priest.

    Why? Because each and every one vows obedience, not to their saviour Jesus Christ, but to mere men, their bishops.

    (Just savourin', like.😆)

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    1. 00.10: How infantile you are Mags! You haven't a clue about anything good! There are Many, many wonderfully good ROMAN CATHOLIC PRIESTS whose lives are faithful to JESUS CHRIST. UNDOUBTEDLY. You haven't, sadly for you, but for no one else, shaken off the sense of shameful rejection that you experienced when flung out of the seminary. Thecscars are deep and not only do they hurt you but you allow those scars to destroy any potential positive good you might do. I THANK GOD FOR THE GIFT OF PRIESTHOOD EVERY DAY AND I FERVENTLY PRAY THAT MY LIFE IS SUCH THAT GOD SEES MY WORTHINESS AND MY GOOD EFFORTS.

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    2. Mad Magna at 00:10

      What have I said on previous blogs,(and this Blog confirms it)? There are many Roman Catholic Priests who are morally good. As I've told you many times, we only hear about priests who have let us down. We never hear about the Majority of good priests, because it doesn't suit the agenda of the gutter press. Also at Ordination the priest vows obedience to his Ordinary who represents Our Lord. Eviva Maria

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    3. Lol we never hear about them because they dread being asked what they knew about whatever sexual scandal is in the news at the time.
      'Nothing' is always their answer.

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    4. 09:56, and Absolutely Barking B.😆, that vow of obedience to a mere man is damning evidence that Roman Catholic priests are marked out, by their choosing, as intrinsic Christ betrayers, the Judases of this world.

      And under that dark, satanic vow, they have concealed terrible moral crimes, including the sexual abuse of children. AND SOME CONTINUE TO DO SO.

      How blind can you morons be?!

      (Just askin', like.😆)

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    5. Magna get off the drink...

      The only Moron is you and not the Good Holy Priests within the Roman Catholic Church.

      Remember you wanted to be one of these Holy Priests but Thankfully you were chucked out.

      For the last two days you have been accused of Minors (Children) and have not defended that.

      So leave the Holy priests alone and look at yourself and the drink dependency or does that block things out one's mind.

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    6. 15:08, nothing to defend myself against, old boy. At least, nothing sensible.

      Has it never crossed your tiny mind that Magna Carta doesn't exist and, therefore, that he cannot be accused of anything.

      As for the persona behind Magna, none of you have a clue as to my identity; therefore you couldn't know ANYthing at all about me.

      I swear some of you people are prime candidates for brain transplants.

      (Just throwin' out a thought, like.😆)

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    7. Mad Magna at 14:17

      Woof! Woof! Polly, it is you that's BARKING! your constant anti-Catholic ranting is satanic. The Bishop is not a mere man he represents Our Lord. the moral crimes you talk about do not pertain to all priests. It is you who is a Judas and The Great Apostate. I will always defend the good Holy priests who are in the majority. You are just bitter and twisted because you tried to become one, but were found wanting so give up the ranting you moron and REPENT! love and prayers B. Eviva Maria!

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    8. Are you still hanging out around that black hole of Carrickfergus MC? We know more about you than you realise Polly and we know what you DID. It explains of course your drunkenness and wish to blot it all out. You had a bad leg sometime ago, how is it now.

      Just checking like.

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    9. 19:15, ha ha ha 😅

      As big Arnie would say, 'Asshole'.

      Ha ha ha 😆

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  4. Question for the Blog.

    My wife's friend visits 2 perhaps 3 times a week. on average she spends four hours per visit,coming around 10pm and leaving at 2am. we think this is very late but my wife is afraid to say anything. her friend can't really take any hints and we usually stop offering tea/cake around 12am in the hope she might just leave.

    While we always welcome guests and love to see people come, I do think there is a limit to visiting. are we being over the top? it's not as if we have to be up early for work as we are retired, but we do like to have our own time watching TV in the evenings and maybe cooking a nice meal. we are very active during the day and tend to be very tired after 10pm. what advice would people here give?

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    1. Dont open the door after 10pm

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    2. Magna @00.10 You talk about morally good and this cimung from you. Just shows how deluded you are and how Buckley is covering up for you. Just sayin like.

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    3. 00.46
      The question is: does she come with her hands hanging? Or does she bring something with her?

      If she cannot take a hint, it's possible she suffers from one of the personality syndromes currently in vogue, usually with a four-letter acronym. If that's the case, she needs to be told very directly and very kindly that once a week is enough and that you wish to retire before midnight.

      I take it you are from the south of the island. Northern people tend to be more direct.

      Alternatively, you could take it in turns after midnight for one of you to go to bed. See which arrangement causes her to leave earlier and then your problem is solved.

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    4. There comes a time, in many situations, when it's obvious that hints falling on deaf ears is just not enough: time for direct action; tell it as it is!
      While I wonder why your wife is afraid, I'd say that surely it's time you and her decided to stop putting up with the 'friend's intrusiveness, with you taking the lead in setting firm limits to the friend.
      And if the visiting friend doesn't like it: tough luck. You've perhaps lost, not a good friend, but someone simply taking advantage of your misguided generosity.

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    5. Pat, you should start a new side blog 'Hints on etiquette from Bishop Buckley'. You could tell people how to turn down the advances of a cardinal without breaking protocol.

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    6. 00:46, I sympatise with you. At one time, a friend of mine used to visit my place and remain, sometimes up to 6 (yes, SIX) testing hours. I knew that she was lonely and, frankly, put up with it.

      Your wife's friend may be lonely, too. However, she is calling at a socially late hour (10 pm). Remaining four hours after this is simply not acceptable, and she is being very thoughtless.

      Could you politely suggest that she call at a much earlier time (in the afternoons, say) and stay for shorter periods (say, an hour)?

      I realise this won't be easy for you, but there really is no other way of handling this except by the direct approach. She may take umbrage and not come back.

      Would that really be so bad?

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    7. 14.31: Auntie Mags giving advice? Laughable. That a "friend" would overstay their welcome with you can only be explained by thinking she must have been drunk (like you). Who the f**k would stay in your company? Do you want us to think you have some good in you? You horrid slug!

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    8. Magna Carta's Mum14 August 2018 at 17:53

      My Magna's got such polished manners. He's a credit to his mummy.

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    9. Thank you, dearest.

      15:18, Mommie dearest really does know best...and a lot better than you.😆

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  5. Not long before he was dismissed at 75, Cardinal Sean Brady did the strangest of things. He was in regressive mode.
    After a morning mass he celebrated at Armagh Cathedral, he invited the altar servers to lunch!
    When Michael Toner realised what was going to happen that morning, he panicked , he contacted Eugene Sweeney, then Administrator at Armagh Parish ( familiar with Brady and his habits), they spoke. Both of them attended that lunch and saved the day.
    I am sure the House Staff and others can back these details.
    Asking Altar Servers to lunch...when no one else was coming ????!!!!!

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    1. Bill, very strange and dangerous behaviour in Brady's part?

      What was he thinking?

      What could have happened?

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    2. That is how at 75 you guarantee a new appointee instead of dragging out the new bishop's appointment out for 3 years.

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    3. Pat and Bill in overdrive imagination. The scurrilous innuendo re: Cardinal Brady is outrageous. And morally unjust. It is a further demonstration of the madness, unwellness and vicious malice of both Path and Bill.

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    4. We all know that Brady was and is a good for nothing.

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    5. 11.32 : Who may I ask are the "we all know" brigade? Such arrant, self serving crap! Cardinal Brady is a more deeply spiritual person than you'll ever be Pat. Flawed, yes, mistakes made, yes, but to define him as you do is simply lies. But then we know you play easy and loose with the truth!!!

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    6. Amd you and Bill are innocent and clean?

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  6. Get the Safeguarding Officer to investigate that occurrence .

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  7. It gets worse and nothing to back it all up but run away to Paris and leave his Parish sadly has not resigned before he went however I am sure he will be laicised by the Church.

    Many clergy take their Altar servers to lunch, ten pip bowling, theatre and so on but it is all above board as the Church has Safeguarding Officers and this is sick to say about a Cardinal.

    Bill wants to cling on to his title of Priest well it maybe take a year for Rome to get rid of him but it will happen hopefully the locks on the parish property have been changed.

    Archbishop Eamon cannot do anything until the Civil Authorities and his safeguarding team allow him it is all Canon and Civil law and Bill should know that and there is an excuse for Pat he is throwing the stones outside in and going nowhere.

    Bill come back and get interviewed by the Civil Authorities and the Safeguarding team so the Sean Quinn saga can be solve.

    And you can be also dismissed or admitted to hospital.

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    1. Bill Mulvihill is a selfish, self obsessed, malicious individual, a man of independent finances but who now spurns and ridicules the good people and his Dioceses who were all very kind and generous to him. He is a disgrace now. Sadly, he follows his master, Buckley. Both are behaving selfishly and outrageously.

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    2. Eamon Martin is supposed to ask a priest to step aside pending the outcome of civil and church investigations.

      Why is he leaving Quinn active in Togher Parish?

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    3. Are you suggesting that Amy will EVICT Bill from his house?

      There is a precedent for that - that did not work!

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    4. 11.35: Mukvihill has independent financial means as he told us. If he loves Paris, city of lights and romance, let him buy a pad there and leavectge rest if us alone with hus mad, malicious ramblings. Or, maybe rent a shed from Pat? By the way Pat, the good peolle of Down and Connor Diocese pay for your house!!! Lest you forget...

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  8. I think you'll find the law much more on the side of the owner of the property in the Republic. Pariahs are not welcome here.

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    1. Then thank God for Protestant N. Ireland :-)

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    2. Sure Pat you are a Protestant in all but name.

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    3. Patsy at 11:55

      What a thing to say, I knew there was not one iota of Catholicism left in you. But to thank God for a Heretical Provence. You'll answer for that on JUDGEMENT DAY! Eviva Maria!

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    4. And what will you answer for on that day, Absolutely Barking B. ?

      With that triumphalist rallying cry of yours (Eviva Maria!), you come across as an unrelenting, unforgiving fanatic. In fact such is your fanaticism, that I have a mental image of your galloping away on a big black horse after one of your loud, self-righteous, triumphalist tirades.

      You won't be able to gallop away when that day comes for you, Barking B. . If you won't humble yourself now, you will be humbled then. And if you refuse to approach that scrutinising light through an entrenched lack of humility, you will remain...

      Well, I needn't tell such an intelligent person as you exactly where you will remain.

      And there will be no end to it.

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    5. Mad Magna at 15:15

      Oh Polly I will like everyone else have to answer for my sins on that Dread Day. I hope that my loyalty and love for my Holy Catholic Faith and my devotion to The Immaculate Mother of God for which I make no apology, will stand me in good stead. I'm always trying to correct you and bring you home, I do this in charity. I now see it is to no avail as because of your Apostacy you are destined for the fires of hell for eternity. You still have time REPENT! and return home to the bosom of Our Holy Mother The Church. Love and prayers B. EVIVA MARIA,MARIA EVIVA!

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  9. Pat Motherwell Diocese has been through all this with Despard and he is out.... Hamilton Court can down in favour of the parish as the church property belongs to the laity and not the Diocese.

    Just shows how you are willing to advise someone who is causing great hurt to the laity and fellow clergy in a sad situation.

    If Bill had any Christian principles he would resign from his parish so someone can be appointed to that parish.

    I would hate to be Bill or you on your judgement day.


    the Church is not stupid Sadly in 2018 it needs safeguarding officers and lawyers so the Archbishops and Bishops do not deal with this sort of stuff.


    They get on with the job they were ordained to do and that is spread the message of the Gospel not be administrators in finance, law HR that is for the laity.

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    1. Where in the Gospel does Jesus tell Eamon Martin to leave an abuuser priest like Father Quinn active in a parish containing children?

      I would hate to be them on Judgement Day.

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    2. This I an accusation against a Priest and be rest assured the Safeguarding Officers and lawyers are all over it and they know what to do.

      I am surprised that they are even considering any action as Bill Has NOT put it in an email to the Archbishop or the Safeguarding Team as yet.


      So that is why Father Sean Quinn has not be asked to stand aside while investigating also Father Sean Quinn has not offered to stand aside as he says he is innocent.


      Come on Bill send an email with the Facts or come to Ara Coeli and get interviewed.


      Yours holidays must be up now from your parish.

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    3. Would hate to be Pat Buckley on judgement day. You would probably be told to join the queue of your own.

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    4. 12:27

      Last week the Armagh Safeguarding Officer put it in writing to me that he reported Father Quinn to the police for the second time!

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    5. Patsy at 12:06

      You'll have enough to worry about on Judgement Day.

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  10. 12.06: Come on Pat, keep up the show! Keep suggesting abuse wrongdoing by Cardinal Brady and someone might believe you. It's your trademark but a disgusting trait. You suggest others should be afraid on judgment day!! Are you not equally to be fearful? Where is the MERCY of God in your "bishopric" pronouncements? NO CHRIST IN YOU.....

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  11. There should be a dispatch by the National Safeguarding Office to the region of Former/ Gaeta to advertise in the general population as to whether you were abused by an Irish Cleric in the 1960's ( The Australian Catholic Church had such a trawl).... it would help in the explanation as to how things are as they have been in the Irish experience these last fifty years....

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  12. The Pope can arrive and play all the charades he likes...but that is what they are ...charades....and He knows it.


    If Archbishop Dermot Martin does not tell what i have been referring to before the arrival of the Pope, I shall tell it....I assure ye

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  13. The good priests he has slaughtered deserve Justice.... at least the Law as it is established.

    Pat Buckley, your time has come after all they have done to you. Do you know that on an Ad Limina a few years ago Paddy Walsh was given an order to destroy you. He is a measured and prudent man. He ignored that directive. He is probably a fifth columnist as well !!!!! We are many..

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  14. 11.16

    Michael O Neill, pray for your sins and those of your ancestors.
    Bill Mulvihill

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    1. 13.01: Mulvihill - you are fast descending into your hell hole. Your comments are outlandish, revelatory of a deeply sick mind. Your behaviour now is bizarre.

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  15. All the priests I met and knew starting from altar-server days as a 9-year old were good men who tried to do their very best. I never had any sense other than of people of total integrity. I cannot speak other than good of all of them. One, I became aware later, was an alcoholic, but he had appropriate treatment and resumed a full life in the parish. He lived to be a good age having fulfilled his priestly vocation to the end. Another wished to marry and have a family which he duly did after leaving the priesthood. The others were unwavering in their service to parishioners and a source of comfort to many. You could have entrusted any of these men with your wife or children. The impression is sometimes given in this blog that many priests are unworthy, materialistic and craven predators devoid of spirituality or belief in God, and that bishops are corrupt power-grasping functionaries engaged only in cover up. Based on my experience, and I’m sure that of many others, such an impression is false. It’s a distortion of the truth like the image produced by a funhouse mirror. The Church is going through a ropey patch but not for the first time in its history. And as happened in the past it will renew itself and continue its divine mission. The priests of Ireland continue to deserve and merit our fullest support, respect and love.

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  16. The Garda can be named on this blog

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  17. I am in France. They separated Powers at the beginning of the 1800's. I am very safe in my security detail here.
    An interesting aside; The French Government offered Notre Dame back to the church in recent memory. The French Episcopate politely declined. The separation of Powers works for everybody here, not so the dysfunctional Irish society (26 counties) . A bientot, met amis, tous est bien.... le Mieux

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    1. 13.08: Vous etes extraordinairement mauvais at malveillant. Rester a Paris!

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  18. Bill STOP shouting from the side lines come face the Archbishop, Safeguarding Team and the Police.

    Or better still if you are in such state of sound mind what is happening to your parishioners.


    resign or get help Bill the Laity, Religious, Archbishop, Cardinal and more so your family deserve the Truth come back from Paris and give the facts.

    Bill do not continue to hide behind a keyboard and screen.


    The National Safeguarding Office cannot do that but what they do is ask anyone with clerical abuse to come forward or report it to the PSNI or Gardi

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  19. I think at this stage we have read ample stories of all descriptions and reputed henuois crimes against the impressionable and vulnerable of society.

    It's about time there were ample actions taken to substantiate the claims in lay man's terms 'Time to piss in the pot or get off it'

    To date nothing has happened, Eamon Martin has seemingly returned and it's business as usual.

    There's not much point saying or boasting about how much more scandal there is to break when the current stuff hasn't been tended to nor the affairs of the past dealt with nor addressed suitably.

    So instead of having he said, he done, I am away on holidays or this happened 30 years ago and a batter of name calling and insults on this blog, it's time to man up, show up, put up or for once just shut up.

    It's akin to a one armed man in the swimming pool going around and around in circles and getting no where.

    No point been whistleblowers and so called warriors of the truth if futile words of to date are unproven allegations and in turn are left blowing about this blog like a tumble weed.

    Bring accountability and factual truths leading to justice driven action.

    Only the people that hold the cards know how to deal them if they're man enough to do so.

    Talk's cheap but it takes money to buy drink so let's have the facts now and less loose chat.

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    1. The media are not touching this. If there were truth to it the national and international media would be all over it and Archbishop Martin’s resignation would already be in Rome. There are obviously hidden depths to this tale. Please pray for Fr Bill Mulvihill and Fr Quinn and all concerned.

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  20. I disengage from the unwashed and the myriad in denial of their truth. You ought to be ashamed of how you address me when all i am doing is telling the truth... you seem to find that offensive... what are you hiding ?

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  21. Why would I come from Heaven to Hell before the allotted time?

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  22. The Archbishop Of Armagh ( Catholic ) is a liar.

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    1. Bill can you give us an example of one of Eamon Martin's lies,?

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    2. And your not Mulvihill? How do come to your conclusions?

      Your not just a liar, your a compulsive, vile disturbed young man with a future like Pat Buckleys to dream about!
      Two sad individual's with nothing to offer society but hatred towards others!

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  23. COMMENTS

    Apologies if publication of comments is slow today.

    I am visiting Maghaberry prison all afternoon.

    Yes - just wait for the comments saying I should be kept here :-)

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  24. The gates to mainstream media will soon open for the flow from this blog.

    A lie from Eamonn Martin : he has engineered the maligning of my reputation in terms of phychiatric health. I challenge him to independent assessment of our physic states ?

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    1. 15.09: Bill, you have manufactured your own demise. The comments you make are indicative of someone who is mentally, emotionally and spiritually unwell. Stop blaming others OWN YOUR OWN STORY AND RESPONSIBILITIES There are people who care but you refuse their help. You offer only insult, ingratitude and vindictive scorn.

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    2. Your mad ranting is evidence of your poor mental state.

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    3. Stay in Paris you fool Mulvihill, we don't want you back anywhere near Monasterboice again!
      Go balls and pack your bags!

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  25. 14.43: Who cares where you are and what you're doing? No need for your diary. Tying to impres? And yes, you should be kept there....

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  26. No pleasing the guilty.

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  27. No get out of the prison quick you'd cause mayhem. A secure psychiatric unit is the only option.

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  28. Eamon Martin has not engineered your reputation of mental health because Eamon Martin is not on this blog however many many people on this blog do think you have a mental health issue and concerned for your welfare.

    If Eamon Martin has concern for your health it is his duty as Archbishop and as a kind and caring Archbishop he will be concerned for you more so since you are over in Paris and have left your parish even although you say with a supply Priest that you pay for.

    Come back and sort out the mess you have created and get help.

    As Pat has asked where is the Eamon Martin lies.

    At least send in a email or letter and resign from your parish so a Holy Catholic Priest can be appointed.

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  29. The use of rent boys by prelates in Euporesn capitals... we shall start with Mc Gee , his credit cards, Cathal Daly and an Episcopal Conference Meeting (!very stormy and most volatile). Also Garda warnings in Cobh to the same Gentleman . Only a nun stopped him!!!

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  30. Media won't touch it with imminent Babbel Visit

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    1. You are a bit unhinged dear Bill?

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  31. Now that you've put yourself centre of attention as usual with your Maghaberry visit what now? Do you want a medal?

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  32. Dear Archbishop Dermot Martin

    When you would you like me to air what you are petrified of...
    The subject matter that you will sue me on...
    The matter that makes you the biggest Hypocrite in Christendom

    For air it I shall....

    Bill Mulvihill

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  33. The general media are in liaison with you... they know i have access to all their dirty little secrets too.......and dirty their secrets are...

    To be fair to my own bishop, he is of blameless life except what he has been forced to be complicit in... it is there he sold his soul.

    Bill mulvihill

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    1. Bill have you been missing the main thing for weeks you have just admitted your own Bishop he is blameless and forced to comply.

      He does not intend to sell his soul he is on the radio saying he wants like you to clean Ireland YES Archbishop Eamon Martin.

      So assist him and then maybe the Cardinal will need to stand down like KOB so if you know facts you will be listened to by the Papal Nuncio an independent man.

      As for the Archbishop of Dublin it maybe him that thinks you have lost the plot and a liar so it is him you should give the True facts about.

      Remember Archbishop Eamon Martin cares for his Priests and you are still one he is not into cover ups.

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    2. KOB's old house in Northumberland is still vacant and could accommodate another disgraced prelate at a moment's notice.

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    3. They may be going to use that for young Father Anthony Caruana who was ordained by KOB in 2010 who is now going on a sabbatical so it will be c/o the Archdiocesan Offices.

      It is shocking however he is part of the Fallon's crew !!!!!!

      I am shocked the house is still empty given the financial state of the Archdiocese of Saint Andrew's and Edinburgh.

      You never know once these people get their facts maybe Robson will land there.

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  34. Dublin Archdiocesan Priest Changes are now on the website.

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  35. the public is weary of all this scandal they have lost interest. That's why the institution can get away with doing nothing unless someone swears out a complaint to the psni or the guards.

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  36. It's almost expected demoralizing all the good hardworking priests out there.

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  37. Just in from the Grand Jury investigation of child-sexual abuse by filthy Roman Catholc priest-perverts and its cover-up by the whore institutional Roman Catholic Church in six Pennsylvania dioceses.

    The report lists 300 priest-perverts as being accused of committing sexual assualt and their bishops of covering up for them. These are some of the most damaging accusations to date brought against the Roman Whore.

    The Grand Jury wrote: ' There have been other reports about child sex abuse within tha Catholic Church, but never on this scale'.

    The whoremaster of this morally diseased institution, the oily Latino Pope Francis, should not be allowed to set foot on Irish soil. And if he dies, he should be arrested and put on trial for crimes against humanity, especially children.

    (Source: National Catholic Reporter)

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    1. You would know all about it scumbag Carta. Those who shout the loudest about these things .......

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  38. Look at her laugh, Bp Pat. I thought she'd never stop...

    ... I hope you'll also keep a close eye on Mick's welfare, Bp Pat; make sure he gets all he's entitled to, e.g., £30,000.00 trip to the States, resettlement grant, pension right, etc. The blog got a good innes out him alright.

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  39. If the world seeks a realistic (and theologically instructive) image of Roman Catholic priesthood, it should see it, personified, as a man upon whose head is a boot repeatedly stamping, with a voice crying: 'Down, whore priest! Down, dirty paedophile! Down, filthy Christ betrayer!

    These arrogant SCUM have virtually always ignored Christ's express teaching, that his disciples were to be servants rather than masters.

    If these filthy vermin will not learn that lesson, then they must be taught it by the so-called 'laity'.😆

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    1. Magna there is no worse scum and vermin than you. Those who deny activity with minors and then accuse others of the same crime must be the worst form of low life.

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    2. 22.51: Poor old dirty man Magna. Can't help his hatred. Off with your pervert mind, off with your w***e mouth, you imbicilic, drunk scumbag.

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  40. Cardinal Donald Wuerl has been exposed as the latest coverup and pervert priest shuffling merchant in the just released Pennsylvania grand jury report. He increased the stipend of a predator priest in order to keep the predator from spilling the beans on other predators involved in a sadomasochistic ring that abused altar boys, etc.

    Wuerl is scheduled to speak at the WMOF. The bastard should be strung up by his balls.

    This WMOF needs to be cancelled pronto and the Pope, cardinals and bishops should go to Lough Derg for a public show of penance instead.

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  41. WMOF Eire 2018: a circus of liars, hypocrites and pederast abuser protectors trying to instruct the Laity on all things family. Ha, ha, ha. I will be praying for the salvation of all the conmen in red but will not be approving of their behaviour by my presence. Every Catholic with a conscience needs to boycott this joke.

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  42. Wuerl should be put in prison. The PA report is absolutely damning in its evidence that he was a master at coverups.

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  43. 23.10: I wonder where did your hatred derive from? Certainly not from Christ! God bless WMOF and all CATHOLICS attending and bless POPE FRANCIS. Bless too Lord the people of vicious bigotry like this poster. His/her ilk have no place in civilised conversations.

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  44. This Pennsylvania report is the worst ever. Victims were exchanged and marked by gold crosses. There was sadism, whips, violence, rapes. Absolute evil and Wuerl privy to it.

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  45. I love Christ and his innocent little ones. It is braindead morons like you who actually hate, go figure fool @ 23:23.

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  46. 23.23
    Head with brain buried in the sand.
    Open your eyes and read
    The National Catholic Reporter....14 th August 2018

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  47. 23.21: You are obviously an ignoramus as well as being stupid. I too love Christ and the innocent little ones. You still poured out hatred in your comment at 23.10. Perhaps you're a phillistine too! Go figure loop head...

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    1. 00:34: You have not the intellect to come up with a better reply but have to resort to paraphrasing my retort to you. No wonder the church is in the state it is with imbeciles like you blindfully adoring coverup artists who like to wear flashy pectoral crosses and dress up in red.

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