Wednesday, 21 November 2018

WERE TWO SEMINARIANS HURT IN MAYNOOTH?



WERE TWO SEMINARIAN HURT IN MAYNOOTH IN DIFFERENT WAYS IN RECENT TIMES?

I ask this question because I have received a report from a Maynooth source claiming this.

I wrote about this to Eamon Martin two days ago and he never answered me.




He neither agreed that these things had happened or denied they had happened.

What are we to make of Eamon Martin's "No Comment"?

Personally I do not think its good enough for the Archbishop of Armagh and Primate of All Ireland - and a trustee of Maynooth to simply say: "No Comment".

But there you have it...…………………………….

If it happened - say it happened.

If it didn't happen - say it didn't happen.

Its an important thing called TRUTH.

My source gave me the names of the two people who were, allegedly, hurt.

One of those names in Sean Hickey from Kilkenny and the Diocese of Ossory.

SEAN HICKEY

Another is called David Dysky from Ennis and the Diocese of Kilalloe.


DAVID DYSKY

The piece below appeared in a Co. Clare parish newsletter last year:




We are all aware that there have been and still are serious concerns about Maynooth.

Those concerns caused Archbishop Diarmuid Martin to withdraw all his seminarians from Maynooth, 

The question is: were these two young men - or any others - physically or psychologically hurt in Maynooth?

We should be deeply concerned about these matters.

And a "No Comment" from Eamon Martin will not suffice!




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ARMAGH EX-SEMINARIAN NOW TRAINING TO BE A JOURNALIST


96 comments:

  1. I am sickened at the thoughts of what may have happened to these two lads and heartbroken for them both. I am also furious to put it mildly at those who allegedly caused them this trauma; and also the authorities in Maynooth under whose noses these crimes were apparently committed.

    There have been no vocations in Ossory for years and years and, when they finally get one, this is what he is subjected to!

    Maynooth is rotten to the core. Close it and let those responsible for the so-called “formation” there suffer ecclesiastical censure and penalties for their dereliction of duty.

    I really hope these two lads will get the courage to go the police and seek justice against those who have hurt them and the neglect of those who facilitated it. This whole thing, if true, is absolutely sick and evil.

    Priest.

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    1. Father, you are right.

      I will continue to work on this.

      I will do a thing I can go help them.

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    2. Anonymous at 00:15

      You say you are sickened at what "may" have happened to these seminarians, but they are allegations and have not been proven. This blog is notorious for publishing unsubstantiated allegations, I would call in the Guards to investigate and get to the truth. If they are found to be false allegations the people responsible for making them and publishing them should be prosecuted because they are truly sick and evil.
      Evviva Maria!

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  2. In the wake of McCarrick these are very serious allegations. Are they true though? And what can really be done if the chaps themselves won’t go to the police? The way victims of sexual crimes are treated in the courts who would blame them?

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  3. Recent times, Bp Pat? Or is this the same allegations we read about back in June regarding some sort of S&M session gone wrong two years previously.

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    1. David Dysky only entered Maynoorh a year ago.

      These things have happened since Septwmber 2017.

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  4. Mullaney continues to block any compensation to be payed out to Sean Hickey and David Dysky for medical bills or psychological treatment due abuse experienced while in Seminary.

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  5. All Material must be submitted to the State Authorities. Please keep Sean Hickey and David Dysky in your prayers. These two good lads need your support. The alleged Ex Seminarian who physically and psychologically abused them must surrender himself to either the PSNI or An Garda Siochana.

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  6. Pat has Maynooth or the Bishop's Conference centre issued an offical statement at all.

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    1. No.

      This is all being covered up along with an awful lot more.

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  7. Pat I can reassure you Fr. Tom Surlis is unaware of this incident. Michael Mullaney and Michael Collins are partly responsibly for covering it up. This unique case links in an abuse network.

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    1. I am quite sure that this blog will be read by Fatger Surlis or brought to his attention.

      I would be very surprised if he did not know a out this.

      He is living there.

      He is the rector.

      If he does not know a out this he is not doing his job.

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    2. It seems to me that Fr Surliss needs to kick ass and blow the whistle. Bring the rotten house down. Unfortunately, though, these clerics tend to be “loyal” and “protective” towards each other at the expense of the innocent. If Fanny Mullaney is blocking anything he should be arrested too.

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  8. The predator seminarian who carried out these brutal assaults on two young men was empowerd by Mullaney and Collins. Mullaney and Collins did everything to protect him despite been caught in bed with a Cork and Ross seminarian two years ago. I wonder what will Mullaney and Collins say in Court for allowing this adult to attack young men in a seminary in which there were in charge of.

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    1. What happened the C&R seminarian?

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  9. What is Seminary Council's motive for covering up this abuse case.

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  10. This whole thing is the talk of Moneymore.

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  11. If these allegations are true, then these two young men should go to the relevant secular authorities and report it. However, I am sure that they are being pressured in all sorts of ways not to do so, by Church people, by their families, by their friends.....because they know that once they do so, they will get a reputation which in a small country like Ireland will be known nationwide and internet wide, and this whole business will blight their lives forever.

    It is necessary, therefore, for the Church authorities themselves to take this matter very seriously and to investigate it, either with or without the assistance of these two young men. They have a duty of care not just to them, but to others like them. If, because of inaction, this same behaviour was repeated on others, then a good deal of the responsibility for that will lie with them and their inaction.

    People need to act.

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    1. With respect, your head is in the highest clouds, with your desire to have 'the Church authorities themselves...take this matter very seriously and to investigate it...'

      Don't you yet know that these 'authorities' ('Christ-betrayers') couldn't give a fuck?

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  12. Pat,

    The problems in Maynooth all go back to one person - Brendan Marshall. He is deeply disturbed and highly manipulative. He has systematically set out to destroy vulnerable seminarians and lay people here in Maynooth.

    Amy is paying for his college fees and accommodation just to keep him quiet.

    Justice for Conan, Ronan, Mark, Stephen, Sean and David!!!

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    1. Are you saying that Eamon Martin is paying for Brendan's journalism MA, and his rent?

      How do you know this?

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    2. Brendan told Fr. Thomas McHugh and Fr. Ryan McAleer about his “deal” with Eamon.

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    3. That is interesting.

      Let's see what Eamon Martun has to say a out it.

      Why would an archbishop pay for an ex-seminarian's further studies???

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  13. Is David still in seminary? Or when did he leave?

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    1. I think the problem was with the two Armagh men, one of whom still brazenly parades about.

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    2. He's left Maynooth over the summer. Thankfully since leaving, he seems to finally being his true self.

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    3. "His true self" a comfting meme manipulative abusers use to absolve themselves for their assault on a persons spirituality, psychology and body

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    4. Tom, do you mean that some use coming to terms with a latent but suppressed sexuality as an excuse to abuse others sexually, and in other ways?

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    5. Tom, by true self, I mean that he finally came out of the closet. He's seems much happier for it.

      There's nothing wrong with being gay. There's plenty wrong with being forced to hide it.

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    6. Magna @ 18:20 No, I meant that some gay people think that someone else who displays traits they associate as being gay traits must be gay themselves and that it is therefore ok to use any means to "Liberate" them, that they will thank them later and go on to live a happy life as an "Out" gay person. Ideally a seminary or religious house should be a place where someone can be supported and grow in and into the fullness of their person but not by denigrating everything they hold holy, believe to be right generally and / or for a priest and certainly not by forced or coerced sexual conduct in the belief that once tasted they'll never want to go back and just because someone appears to be ok at being "shown their true self" does not mean they are ok, though it may take years before they discover it. 22:05 No, I don't beleive there is anything wrong with being gay either. I hope David is ok and genuinely happier for it. He has however, found himself facing a different future from that envisaged a year ago and anyone who might have set him on a course different from the one he might have himself otherwise set upon, ie a celibate gay / straight / bi priest, or the gradual discerned life away from approaching Holy Orders, need to heed our Lord's words regarding millstones.

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  14. ENAIL TODAY TO EAMON MARTIN:

    Dear Eamon,

    It is being claimed that you or Armagh are paying for Brendan Marshall's journalism MA and other expenses.

    Can you clarify that.

    If you do not respond I will take it that you are paying for these things.

    Why are you doing that?

    Pat.

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    1. Is there the suggestion of 'hush' money here? 😆

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    2. She should do the decent thing, Bp Pat, and resign.

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  15. Brendan was the seminarian caught on Grindr which caused the Maynooth scandal.

    Brendan was the semainrian caught in bed with a cork man Ronan Sheehan which lead to the expulsion of a very holy seminarian.

    Brendan was the seminarian who bullied and sexually harassed other young men into leaving Maynooth.

    Brendan was the seminarian who battered Sean Hickey in his bedroom.

    Sean Hickey left Maynooth for a month and came back because he has a genuine vocation. Brendan destroyed him!!!

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    1. Oh, don't be a drama queen!

      Destroyed him?

      Phh! 😆

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    2. Magna Carta at 18-01

      You're the only drama queen on this blog.

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    3. What?!

      I mean 'WTF!'. 😮

      😆

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  16. Sean Hickey and Brendan Marshall are both in a relationship together and left seminary. It’s time for a fact check. Brendan was seen in Maynooth two weeks ago with Sean as he graduated. This blog is deteriorating by the day.

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    1. I am always happy to hear and publish facts.

      The problem is that those in the church like to operate secretly and in the dark.

      In such a circumstance facts can be hard to establish.

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    2. 11:24 False. Sean has been legally advised to stay away from Marshall.

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    3. Its good to hear that Sean is taking legal advice.

      I wish him well.

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    4. 11:41 False. You are being misinformed. Stop spouting lies and stirring.

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    5. 11:51, what's the beef? 😕

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  17. Besides Grindr, Bp Pat, these priests, and seminarians must also be on kinky dating platforms to searching for their new slave or master, or just to get paddled.

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  18. It is time for Conan McGonagle to get justice Brendan. :-)

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    1. Is Conan still working in a bar in London.

      I doubt if Donal McKeown gave him much help.

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    2. Never was Pat, I'm sure he appreciates the slander.

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    3. 'Justice', 11:44?

      What's the crime? 😆

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  19. Let us not forget Xxxxxxx Xxxxxx who has been and is riding Male students in Maynooth University.

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    1. I hope he isn't ignoring health and safety regulations, then. 😯

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    2. Maybe his Order of Malta training will keep him safe!!

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  20. Pat I am mystified as to how Brendan Marshall has over 8600 followers on Twitter and you have only 202

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    1. "If a million people follow you ask yourself: "Where have I gone wrong".

      Mahatma Gandhi

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  21. Can someone tell Brenda Marshall to change that picture???

    We need a modern picture which shows the 5+ stone he gained since then. He has not aged well at all.

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  22. If the link in the Marshall's pic is anything to go by - I can't see him making it as a journalist. The writing is bad and ungrammatical.

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    1. Are you in a position to criticise?

      (Just musin', like. 😆)

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    2. Clearly I'm not the one training to be a professional journalist.

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  23. That is strange as he only follows 271. Is there some way you can buy followers I wonder.

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    1. Yes, of course you can buy followers, and not just with £££.

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  24. And we should also remember, Pat, that these cases - if they are true - are not isolated. As serious as they are, they are but two in a litany of abuse which has continued in Maynooth over decades. The Archbishop of Armagh must also be asked why the alleged predator in this case was allowed to continue in seminary for TWO YEARS after the Conan incident. There are also countless men who were kicked out of Maynooth or their diocese over the years because they dared to speak of the different abuses going on there. There are others who have been afraid to speak out because they fear that their bishops will kick them out of seminary - it's the whistleblowers who tend to be punished. Plus there are priests who know exactly what Maynooth is like but have been more or less silenced by their bishops.

    The bishops are terrified of their whole cover-up unraveling: if they are found to have been negligent in one thing, they will have to admit that they have been negligent for decades.

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    1. I agree, anon12.43, the "bigger picture" is important. We've known of the blind eye turned by bishops to Maynooth abuse since Fr. Gerard Mcginnity in the mid-80's.

      Anonymous priest at 13.30: yes, this is horrendous. Should the bishops resign en masse? At least most of them should. Over half of them are trustees of Maynooth - if a blind eye has been turned to abuse of seminarians, then all of them should resign.

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    2. Fr McGinnity was a moral wimp. He allowed that spiritually hollow bastardo, O'Fiach, to shaft him.

      McGinnity actually facilitated it! 😮

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  25. I’m wondering, if these allegations are true, is the Irish episcopate as bad as the Chilean episcopate? Should they also offer their resignations en masse to the Pope? This is horrendous.

    Priest.

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  26. Sean Hickey and David Dysky will never be the same again.

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  27. Why would the bishops be terrified? I ask as the majority of people living in Ireland know exactly what is going on.we can read now thanks to the hedge schools.some people studied just as much as they did...so the sheep have now wised up.
    Just check the pews,
    How many parishioners has E Martin spoken to this week, yes it’s only Thursday so maybe he will tomoro.Does he really know any of the locals, does he drop into the local spar or centra?
    Has he ever really lived in the real World?

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    1. I think the faithful know a lot of what is going on, but I don't think they know "exactly" - yes, the people know that Maynooth is rotten; yes, they know there has been abuse; yes, they know there has been cover-up. But I think there is an intricate web of names and reasons in which some bishops are entangled and which has not fully unraveled.

      Plus, many bishops still do not believe they have to answer to anyone, and I think they are afraid that this defence will come crashing down, as it inevitably will. Just look at how many letters +Pat has sent to bishops over various matters - very few respond personally or with any great substance; not infrequently has +Pat gotten solicitor's letters in response!

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    2. hmmm...yes I suppose.

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  28. The only good thing that John Gates in Magherafelt did say was that Brendan Marshall should never be ordained or be let anywhere near a Seminary. I know it's a bit rich coming from him.

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  29. This really is a blog for Norther Ireland Loonies....You deserve each other.

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    1. I am not a loonie.

      I am NOT a loonie.

      I am NOT a loonie!

      I AM NOT A LOONIE! 😠

      Oh! Alright then. I'm a...

      What was that? 😕

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    2. 18.26: Loonies have more humanity than you dear slutty Mags. What a fool!

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  30. Bishop Pat, do you have a website?

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    1. Thanks Bishop Pat - I'm getting on and am not very "au fait" with the Google.

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  31. A Me Too Irish seminarian needs to be organized to pressurize and make accountable, these bishops.

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    1. Have you male whores never heard of discreet recording devices, including concealed cameras?

      Of course, you haven't, cos you lot are just sexuak meat: braindead.

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    2. 20.08: You mean "sexual" Magna, not as you spelled it. That aside, you are a brain dead, unemotional, unfeeling piece of crap. You are still a drunken slob. Your behaviour is the essence of a demented, damaged brain. Too much drink, not enough meaningful, human interaction with others.

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    3. 20:50, thank ee, dear boy, for your ('persicait...', 'perspacious...', 'perapcit...',) shrewdness. 😆

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  32. Has no Irish journalist the balls or the gumption to do a proper and thorough investigation into all this business which has been rumbling on for a couple of years now? I mean WHAT THE F***!!!

    These two seminarians entered Maynooth AFTER the Grindr scandals and reported “strange goings on”! If they have suffered the trauma of violent sexual assaults in Maynooth then surely to God it is newsworthy???

    Have no Irish journalists the courage of their colleagues in the Boston Globe?

    Blow the f**king thing wide open and expose them once and for all - bishops, priests, faculty, abusive seminarians, whoever - the whole shebang!! Enough already!

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    1. Anonymous at 20-16

      Hi Magna enough already from U!

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    2. Most journalists would investigate the truth of matter unlike most bloggers.

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    3. 21:17, d'you shay shomshing? (Hic!😖)

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  33. Pat, can I ask you, why on earth did you name these two lads and publish their pictures?

    That is an astonishing invasion of their privacy and a gross disregarding of their basic rights.

    Who is any the better for knowing who the two chaps are, or for seeing their photographs on your blog?

    You would have us believe that you “care” for these lads? That you will do anything you can to help them? The last person on this earth they will turn for help is you!

    Have you any concept at all of the dynamics of how traumatised victims cope? The VERY LAST THING these two chaps need is to be dragged, without their permission, by you, into a public forum like this, where every faceless Tom, Dick and Harry can say God knows what about them and their plight!

    What you have done is absolutely unconscionable and unethical.

    What, God forbid, if one of these two guys was pushed over the edge by what you have done today? You would be responsible.

    YOU DO NOT PRESSURISE VICTIMS!

    Part of their trauma is the removal of their autonomy and you have shown utter and callous disregard for the wellbeing of these two persons.

    It’s up to them how they handle what has happened to them. They have to be in charge of that process.

    It could even prove fatal for some survivors to be dragged into the public domain when they are not ready and without their express permission!

    Good grief! In the interests of titilating anonymous gossips on your blog you have exposed these two lads to further psychological harm.

    You have, there can be no doubt, deepened and compounded their trauma! If anything happens to either of them, you will share in the guilt.

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    1. You cannot make the ommelete of truth and transparency without breaking the eggs of deceit and secrecy.

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    2. Are these two sems (ex-sems, whatever) queer themselves?

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    3. 23:10 contd, because if they had a consensual part in what ALLEDGEDLY happened to them, then they will most emphatically not find any sympathy/support from this quarter.

      (And Mags is ordinarily ever so understanding. 😆❤)

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    4. You mean queer like you, Magna Carta, you creep? I doubt they’re like you in any way whatsoever.

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    5. @23:10 - Wtf has that got to do with anything you moron?

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  34. How could Wilson ever be allowed to progress to ordination given his track record? He's more overtly gay than Julian Clarey and doesn't try to hide it. Manipulative and scheming to everyone but used and being used by the gay clergy. Another disaster waiting to happen, but he'll take down all with him when he eventually falls.

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  35. The Boston Globe should have been an example to all investigative journalists.
    All those sincere young men’s lives being destroyed by the few in maynooth.
    We the laity would prefer the truth rather than the odd ordination here and there...some of them are indeed odd.
    There are many good men...married and single... who should be our priests.
    You bishops are irrelevant in this day and age.
    the homeless should be living in all those parochial houses, especially the one up the Antrim road.

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    1. 'We the laity would prefer the truth to the odd ordination here and there'?

      'ODD ordination here and there'?? Are you nuts? They ALL are freakin' odd! These are financial parasites. Why do you want these spongers ordained? Doesn't this whore life make you suffer enough without the effect of these, clerical leeches?

      You're Irish, aren't you? Are you atavistically linked to the authors of the Irish Penitentials? 😆

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    2. To the “creator(s)” of “Magna Carta”: you are (a) morally hideous individual(s).

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  36. Pat, might I suggest that you actually reach out to David Dysky before you use him in your crusade?

    He is a person; not a tool.

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