Tuesday, 19 June 2018

BDSM AND MAYNOOTH



There are reports emerging from Maynooth that two years ago during the Maynooth crisis, a small number of seminarians were involved in BDSM - bondage, domination, sadism and masochism!

Apparently, during one of these sessions, one seminarian had a limb broken.

The seminary council led an inquiry into how the fracture happened and the seminarians lied to them.

Then, when the big crisis broke, one of the seminarians got afraid and went and told the authorities the truth.

Some of those involved in BDSM have left, but not all of them.




GAY RITUAL:

ONE other report says some well-known seminarians used to organize gay rituals in the seminary.

SEMINARY "RENT BOYS":




Another report says that over recent years a number of Maynooth seminarians have been acting as "rent boys" for priests and more senior clergy.

These activities took place especially in Dublin  Armagh and Cork and Ross.

This has laid to reports that the seminarians providing the services went on to blackmail clergy including some well-known ones.

This, of course, means that the strange goings on have involved clergy - bishops not excluded!

Eventually, these names will leak out and there will be senior resignations.

Rent boys always tell their story in the end, especially when large sums are offered.

At present, I know some names but have not sufficient evidence to publish.

But I am working on it.

Some seminarians have been ordained because they had the dirt on senior clergy.

This is a deeper scandal than previously realized.

There is much, much worse to come in clerical and hierarchical Ireland.



Monday, 18 June 2018

VATICAN SENDS CORK BULLY TO MEATH




THE VATICAN HAS APPOINTED THE DESK BOUND BULLY - TOM DEENIHAN OF CORK - AS THE NEW ROMAN BISHOP OF MEATH!

While Deenihan worked in parishes and schools in his early priesthood he has spent most of his time doing desk jobs and attending meetings.

He is a slightly more intelligent version of Time Bartlett - who may also get a reward too - but both of them are equally ambitious.

Here was one message to the blog by a well-placed source in the diocese of Cork and Ross:


"Bishop Pat,

I got word this morn that tom Deenihan has got the bishop's post of Meath. I am so appalled. He has abused the people of cork and Ross for years, overstepping his mark completely, with threats and accusations and yet he gets the bishop. He is a power hungry control freak that gets off on hoarding power and his position over people. He must be stopped. The church is bad enough but to have a bishop who has threatened to remove the blessed sacrament from the people of God so that he could get his way. It's abusive of both sacraments and the people of God. I thought there was too much dirt attached to the man that he'd never get a bishop's post but I was obviously v wrong. 

I'm completely disheartened."

My response is that you and others have every right to be disheartened. 

It also PROVES beyond all doubt that the Holy Spirit has absolutely nothing to do with the appointment of bishops in the RC Church.

That institution is 100% politically corrupt and it is all about how many asses you lick if you want to get to the "top".

It is also about the Pharisaic canon laws, clericalism and the exercise of power and control.

In one sense it is good that the Vatican is putting these "stooges" in dioceses - as it will lead more and more people - more and more quickly - to see that the whole thing is going down the tube.

The priests and people of Meath are to be pitied today and they will find out soon enough that the mild manner Michael Smith has been replaced with a demagogue.

On the other hand, many of the priests and people of Cork are rejoicing that the yoke that was around their shoulders for years is now departing. 


OH! AND BY THE WAY:

Was not Tom Deenihan the great friend of Horney Andy of Maynooth and who sheltered him in Cork?



And did not Deenihan try and get Horney Andy Andy a position on the University of Cork chaplaincy team - a move that was resisted by the chaplain?

What was all that about?


BON SECOURS, CORK

Deenihan seems to be involved in the Bon Secours hospital in Cork and some situation involving a staff member and a convicted paedophile???

AUSTRALIAN MP CALLS FOR NO DIPLOMATIC RELATIONSHIP WITH VATICAN.




 DAVID SHOEBRIDGE MP IS CORRECT AND COURAGEOUS BY SAYING THAT AUSTRALIA SEVER ALL DUPLOMATIC RELATIINS WITH THE VATICAN.

The Vatican has only been a "state" since 1929 - 89 years after receiving that gift plus millions from the dictator Musselini in return for the RC Church supporting him.

It is absolutely crazy for any religion, even a big one, to have the status of a state in these modern times.

Furthermore through its many activities, including abuse, the Vatican is a ROGUE STATE!

That's why they gave Mugabe of Zimbabwe a seat of honour at the Pole' s funeral.

I was very pleased when Enda Kenny cancelled Ireland's diplomatic relations with the RCs and annoyed when it was restored.

For its role in abuse in the world the Vatican should be treated as a pariah.

I hope that Australia does send their Nuncio packing.

And I hope that many other countries follow their example.




Saturday, 16 June 2018

CHURCH DECLINE IN IRELAND - DIOCESE BY DIOCESE



Pope Francis will visit Ireland later this year but will find a different country to that which welcomed his predecessor, Pope John Paul II, almost four decades ago


NEWS: Survey warns about ageing Church 

By Noel Baker, Social Affairs Correspondent THE EXAMINER

Senior figures within the Catholic Church are warning that the ageing profile of priests and the lack of new ordinations could mean a further reduction in its footprint around the country.


A handful of dioceses and archdioceses have parishes which do not have a resident priest


LIMERICK:

There are 60 parishes and 65 priests, but 27 are due to retire in the next decade.
In Kilmore’s 34 parishes, there are 72 priests, but just 45 are below the retirement age of 75 and there have been no ordinations in five years

ARMAGH:

61 parishes - 115 priests and 14 permanent deacons. 

There are also 25 retired priests, a small number of whom are able to provide assistance locally on a part-time basis.

In the last five years nine priests have retired. This has been offset by the ordination of seven priests and the introduct
ion of five priests on loan from Poland, India and Africa, in the same timespan.

Currently, there are 14 permanent deacons ministering in the diocese, of whom, five were recently ordained in September 2017. All 14 permanent deacons are assigned to parishes and a few are also involved in hospital and prison chaplaincy. Most of our permanent deacons are still in full-time employment in the secular world and exercise their ministry on a part-time basis.

Currently, every parish in the Archdiocese of Armagh has at least one priest assigned to it.

Another initiative in the diocese has been the establishment in 2012 of a seminary, based in Dundalk, Co Louth — The Redemptoris Mater Archdiocesan Missionary Seminary.

The 17 seminarians who study there come from Neocatechumenal Way communities throughout the world and will be ordained as priests of the Archdiocese of Armagh.

To date a Polish man from the Redemptoris Mater Seminary has been ordained a priest for the Archdiocese of Armagh and is serving in a parish in the archdiocese.
Caroline Hicks, diocesan office, said while there have been cutbacks, no parish is without a priest.

“Although some parishes in this diocese have had to reorganise and reduce the number of weekday and Sunday Masses, there haven’t been significant reductions. No parish within the diocese is without a resident priest.

“Priests fulfil a vital ministry within the Church. There is a need, therefore, for vocations to the priesthood to be maintained. To this end the Diocesan Vocations Commission has been active in promoting calls to the priesthood.

“One notable change we have noticed in parishes over the past five years has been 

“There has also been an increase in the age profile of priests in the last five years. The introduction of the Redemptoris Mater Seminary into the diocese, with currently 17 seminarians, will, please God, bear fruit over the next number of years. There are also three students studying for the priesthood, for this diocese, in seminaries in Maynooth and Rome,” she said.

Almost all of the 61 parishes have an active parish pastoral council, made up of both clergy and lay people; many of which are also chaired by lay people.
“Over the last ten years there has been a huge uptake by laity to support their clergy in significant roles within the archdiocese. It has become common practice for all parishes to have trained ministers of the Word and ministers of the Eucharist.”

DOWN AND CONNOR:

87 parishes
108 priests — down seven in last five years
6 ordinations in last five years
16 deceased priests in last five years
45 retired priests in the area


Fr Eddie McGee, Diocese of Down and Connor, said 83 out of 87 parishes currently have at least one priest in attendance. Three parishes are administered by religious orders. Parish priests in seven parishes also serve as parish priests in seven other adjoining parishes. Over the five-year period, one parish has had long-term assistance from a priest from Australia.

“We have had a number of priests temporarily assisting in the diocese from a number of countries across Europe and further afield. We have also had a number of religious priests who have retired into the diocese and who assist parishes at times.

“Over the past five years, we have two priests from India, two priests from Poland, one priest from Australia and one priest from Uganda assisting in full time ministry.
“While there have been some changes to times of Masses, all pastoral needs of parishioners continue to be met.


ARDAGH AND CLON MACNOISE

41 parishes
55 priests
In the last five years, 7 priests have left active service: 2 priests in active ministry died, 4 have retired and 1 priest from a missionary order has returned to work for his order.
Seven new entrants; 2 are newly ordained for the diocese, 2 are from abroad, 2 from a missionary order and 1 diocesan priest has returned from mission work.
The permanent diaconate has been launched in this diocese although there are currently no people in receipt of training.
A training programme for parish catechists commenced in September 2017 with over 30 participants.

Four parishes have reduced the number of Masses. Weddings do not take place on Sundays; this has been the case for quite a while. In this same pastoral area, a Sunday evening Mass has been introduced.

DROMORE

22 parishes
25 priests
8 priests left active service in the last five years
2 newly qualified priests in the same period
5 Permanent Deacons and three more in training.
The restructuring of Mass schedules has been under review over the past 10 years

DERRY

51 parishes
76 priests
Nine priests have left ministry in the past five years.
Eight new priests have entered ministry in the Diocese in the same period — and includes seven ordinations for the diocese.
There have been no changes with regard to parish configuration over the past decade and “nothing significant” with regard to any alterations to Mass schedules or carrying out services such as weddings and baptisms.

KILMORE

34 Parishes
72 priests — 45 are below retirement age (75), 12 are aged above 75 years and remain working in parish ministry. 15 priests have retired fully from parish ministry.
8 priests retired in the past five years

Zero ordinations


CLOGHER

37 parishes
63 priests and 1 deacon presently serving in the diocese.

14 priests have died since 2013; one has retired from ministry, one has been granted leave to minister in the USA and one has been granted leave of absence.
Since 2013, four new priests have been ordained and another is due for ordination next July. Another priest has come to work in the diocese on a temporary basis during that period. A permanent deacon will be ordained in June 2018.


RAPHOE

No details supplied

MEATH

69 parishes
125 priests (15 retired).
In the past five years, 18 priests died; of this number, seven were in active ministry. Seven priests were ordained in the same period, with eight foreign priests joining the diocese from abroad. These priests come from Romania, India, Pakistan, Nigeria and Uganda. Three are engaged in full-time post graduate studies in Maynooth (which is near to this diocese) while five are full-time ministering in parishes.

Fr Paul Crosbie said there has been no considerable changes in general to provision of Masses, sacraments or pastoral services over the past five years.

“There has been a long-standing prohibition on Sunday weddings that dates back many years.

“Specifically, there are four circumstances where two neighbouring parishes are now served by one parish priest; these are situations where there were two small rural parishes now being served by one PP rather than two separate PPs.


TUAM

55 parishes
65 priests currently serving.

In the past five years six priests retired. One new priest ordained, four others have come from elsewhere to serve in the archdiocese.

Some parishes have had changes in the number of priests ministering there, or in some cases where there was one priest previously, now the neighbouring Parish Priest has taken charge of the second parish too.


ELPHIN

37 parishes
62 priests
In the past thre
e years, three priests in active ministry have died and six have retired (Nine in total).

In the same period, seven priests have begun ministry in the diocese, mostly on temporary loan from overseas. None of the new arrivals are newly ordained. There are eight deacons in active service.

There has been a reduction in the number of Masses in some areas, corresponding not only to the availability of priests, but also to the decline in population in the West.

ACHONRY

No details supplied

CLONFERT

24 parishes
33 priests in active ministry. Seven retired priests — of these, four are available to supply in parishes when needed.

In the past five years four priests have retired at 75. There have been no departures from ministry and three priests began ministry in Clonfert in that period — none of these was newly ordained.

There is at present no parish without a resident priest.

There have been no changes in services available in the last five years. Sunday weddings are not allowed for the past 15 years or thereabouts, but this decision was not related to decline in numbers. Pastoral councils are active in many parishes and performing some administrative duties in some parishes. Three town parishes have secretaries.
It is about 10 years since the last set of changes in the number of Masses. There was some rationalisation in 2009/2010 but not since then.

“Currently there are two priests from Jalingo Diocese, Nigeria ministering in Clonfert. We hope to have a third Jalingo priest in September.”

GALWAY

39 parishes
40 priests plus 8 non-diocesan (order) priests in fulltime ministry

10 priest departures in last five years (7 retired, one moved, one on leave)

7 new priests (4 ordinations, 3 returnees)


KILLALA

22 parishes
30 priests

Six priests have retired since 2013. One priest came on loan to the diocese. One priest was ordained.

No parish is without a full-time priest. To date, no changes have been made regarding scheduling of certain services such as baptisms or weddings and minor changes have been made to the Mass schedule in the parishes, with reduced weekend Masses in one parish. Due to the provision of some new nursing homes, cover has increased slightly for those facilities.


CASHEL AND EMLY

46 parishes
79 priests
9 priest departures in past five years (6 deaths, one retirement, 2 left ministry)
2 new priests (ordinations) in same period
No changes noted to the hosting of to weddings, baptisms etc.
Very Rev Nicholas J Irwin, diocesan secretary, said: “In some parishes there has been a decrease in weekend Masses. Some parishes had to adapt to fewer priests serving in the parish. Currently, we are assessing parish needs and formulating a pastoral plan for the diocese; this will take some months to complete as we consult the parishioners in each parish by way of a Listening Process.”
“With fewer priests, more focus will inevitably fall on the role of the lay people in any parish — especially as they involve themselves more in administrative activity.”

Cork and Ross

67 parishes
91 priests in full-time parish ministry (not all are diocesan priests)
21 priests in chaplaincy, administration and education
21 retired priests (all diocesan)

In the last three years, four new priests ordained along with two deacons. Three priests have retired and one priest in ministry died.


ClOYNE

46 parishes
120 priests — 90 full time, 20 retired but in part-time ministry and 10 fully retired from active ministry.

In the last five years six priests have retired. Two have been ordained. Six permanent deacons were ordained last September and have been appointed to parishes to assist. Many lay people involved in various apostolates.

Some parishes have reduced Masses and changed Mass times. Parish pastoral councils have been set up in many parishes to assist the priest.

Fr Jim Moore said: “We have a good number of priests in the 55-75 age bracket. Some reduction or consolidation will be needed over the next ten years but no dramatic reduction in service is anticipated.”

KILLALOE

58 parishes
99 priests — 

four serve outside the diocese in various ministries, 66 are in active ministry in parishes and the remainder are retired. There are 137 churches in these 58 parishes and in the past each of these church areas was a Christian community in its own right.
Since 2013, there has been one ordination and two priests have come from India. Two priests have left ministry in that time and 7 have died.

KERRY

53 parishes
54 priests in parish ministry, this includes four non-diocesan clergy and two Assistant Priests

There are six diocesan priests under 50

In the last three years, seven priests have left active ministry — four have retired, two have died and one has left. There have been no new priests. Six parishes are without a resident priest.


LIMERICK

60 parishes
65 priests in active ministry, but with 27 priests due to retire within the next 10 years.
17 priests have left ministry in the diocese in the last five years.

There are currently two students in Rome who are in their second year of formation. 

Priestly formation can take anything from six years upwards.

The last priest to be ordained was four years ago.


WATERFORD 

45 parishes
66 priests

Nine priests have left active service in the past five years and seven have entered the priesthood in the area over the same period, including one newly ordained priest.

No changes in relation to baptisms or marriages.

DUBLIN

247 diocesan priests
166 religious priests
22 Permanent Deacons.

97 priests have retired
There are also 25 Parish Pastoral workers with appointments – these are full-time positions held by 17 women and eight men, who work in parishes and in Youth Evangelisation.

A spokesperson for the archdiocese said many parishes have reduced the number of masses.
The archdiocese referred to recent speeches made by Archbishop Martin, including last November when he remarked on how 15 priests had died in the past year in the area, while two new priests were ordained for the diocese of Dublin. In that speech, looking ahead to 2030, he said: “If religious orders were to relinquish the parishes they currently serve, due to the age profile of their own priests, the drop by 2030 would be 70 percent leaving just 111 priests carrying out parish ministry across Dublin’s 199 parishes. Fifty-seven percent of the current priests serving in Dublin are over 60 years of age and this is projected to increase to 75% by 2030 and the findings predict that just one new priest under the age of 40 will join the priesthood in Dublin every year up to 2030.”

FERNS

No detail supplied

OSSORY

42 parishes
53 priests

In the past years, three priests have retired from ministry in Ossory and one priest has been ordained for service in the diocese.
There is one parish without a resident priest — cared for by a neighbouring priest who has been appointed to this role alongside his duties, and another which is cared for by a priest from a neighbouring parish in a similar fashion — although this parish has also a resident retired priest.
The diocese has no plans overseas priests working in parishes and, as of now, no plans to begin this practise.
The diocese has parishes that have introduced changes with regard to its services such as adjusting Mass times. No changes to the days on which weddings and funerals are celebrated.
Some parishes there have been changes in mass times. The diocese has also employed a coordinator for our diocesan pastoral plan which has been worked on in recent years as a means of prioritising the areas on which we will focus in the years ahead to better serve people in the diocese.

KILDARE AND LEIGHLIN

56 parishes
90 priests in parish ministry

In the last three years two priests have retired, one priest has been ordained and two priests come to minister in the Diocese from the Diocese of Iasi in Romania.





PAT SAYS:

I think all this information speaks for itself.

We can blame secularization etc for the decline.

But I think that the RC hierarchy and clergy has brought about most of this decline.

Wherever people are oppressed  they will eventually rise up!


Friday, 15 June 2018



Former Vatican diplomat indicted on child pornography charges

by Cindy Wooden Catholic Herald
posted Tuesday, 12 Jun 2018
Mgr Carlo Alberto Capella was recalled from Washington last year

A Vatican court indicted Mgr Carlo Alberto Capella, a former staff member at the Vatican nunciature in Washington, and ordered him to stand trial beginning June 22 on charges of possessing and distributing child pornography.
Vatican City State’s criminal court issued the indictment on June 9, the Vatican press office announced. Mgr Capella has been held in a jail cell in the Vatican police barracks since April 9.
Mgr Capella is accused of having and exchanging with others “a large quantity” of child pornography; the quantity is such that the charges are considered “aggravated” by the Vatican City court.
If found guilty, he faces a prison sentence of one year to five years and a fine from 2,500 to 50,000 euros (about $3,000-60,000). However, according to Vatican law, “the penalty is increased if a considerable quantity of pornographic material is involved.”
The 50-year-old Italian monsignor had been working in Washington just over a year when he was recalled to the Vatican after the US State Department notified the Holy See of his possible violation of laws relating to child pornography images.
“The Holy See, following the practice of sovereign states, recalled the priest in question, who is currently in Vatican City,” and opened the investigation, the Vatican press office said on September 15.
Then, police in Canada issued a nationwide arrest warrant for Mgr Capella on charges of accessing, possessing and distributing child pornography.
“Investigators believe that the offences occurred while the suspect was visiting a place of worship in Windsor,” the police statement said. A spokesman for the Diocese of London, Ontario, which includes Windsor, confirmed at the time “that it was asked to, and did, assist in an investigation around suspicions involving Mgr Capella’s possible violations of child pornography laws by using a computer address at a local church.”
Mgr Capella, was born in Carpi, Italy, and ordained to the priesthood in 1993 for the Archdiocese of Milan. After studying at the Vatican diplomatic academy in Rome, he entered the Vatican diplomatic service in 2004. He had worked since the summer of 2016 at the Vatican nunciature in Washington.
Under the same laws promulgated by Pope Francis in 2013, Archbishop Jozef Wesolowski, the former nuncio to the Dominican Republic, was charged in 2015 with the sexual abuse of minors in the Dominican Republic, possession of child pornography, causing serious psychological distress and harm to adolescent victims of sexual abuse and for offending religious and Christian morals with his repeated use of online pornography abroad and on Vatican City State property. He died in August 2015 before his trial could begin.


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Thursday, 14 June 2018

IS KING PUCK TO BE ORDAINED SOON?



A BLOG READER/ CONTRIBUTOR CLAIMED YESTERDAY THAT SEAN "KING PUCK" JONES IS TO BE ORDAINED A PRIEST ON JULY IST IN MOYVANE PARISH CHURCH BY THE KERRY RC BISHOP - RAY BROWNE.

RAY LOOKING FONDLY ON KING PUCK
This "news", if true, raises a number of important questions:


1. Was King Puck a member of the Pallottine Order before being accepted?

2. Was King Puck asked to leave the Pallottines or did he leave of his own accord?

3. What were the reasons/circumstances surrounding his departure from the Pallotines?

4. If King Puck was suitable for ordination why did Ray Browne delay his ordination for 2 years?

5. If he was not suitable for ordination 2 years ago what has now changed that makes him suitable now?


King Puck's activities and placements for the past 2 years have been conducted with an air of secrecy. 

Why?

Gorgeous is gone.

Horney Andy is gone.

Gannon is gone.

Derwin is gone.


And is King Puck to ordained with full honours next month?

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Wednesday, 13 June 2018

OSCOTT SEMINARY - MAYNOOTH LIKE PROBLEMS?


LETTER RECEIVED ABOUT OSCOTT

UNREDACTED COPY SENT TO EACH ARCHBISHOP IN ENGLAND, WALES AND SCOTLAND

News on the Marsden Sacking at Oscott College




Dear Pat,

In addition to your recent blog on Oscott College, this is the latest on the sacking of Father David Marsden SCJ. Forget Maynooth, at least for the next year. You couldn't write this stuff and you need to get it out ASAP.

Oscott's gay sage goes back decades well before Marsden arrived. For a long time the seminary has been a place of gay activity but it has always been covered up by the staff and students, until recently.

......................... I am really concerned about someone who is to be ordained.

Five or six years ago there was a "departure" surrounding gay sex. An early years seminarian was dropped by his bishop - Xxxxxxx Xxxxxxx for having a sexual relationship with someone from Xxxxxxxx Diocese and someone from Xxxxxxx Diocese. Both of these seminarians were later ordained, priests. 

The reason XXXX was asked to leave, and not them, had something to do with a Xxxxxxx Diocese priest called Xxxxxxxxx who was then on the staff. This guy was known to have favourites and XXXX was one of them.

THE COLLEGE BAR:

The college bar is known among students and visitors as very camp and a former Rector, Oakley, said it was a place "respectable students avoid". Apparently, Pat, you hear everything there from how much some seminarians can "cum" to who's F****** who in the seminary and the clergy. You see staff and visitors very drunk and all drinks are at reduced prices. 

A former seminarian called it: "THE WORST GAY BAR IN THE COUNTRY".

Many of the seminarian's have women's names - Christine, Vera, Danielle, Mary, Lydia, Princess, Geraldine and one called Herbert who likes younger sems. They call each other as "she" or "queen".

Another lad was called "Tanner" He appeared on your blog some time ago and Tanner's father was so upset at seeing him on your blog that he wanted to take him out of Oscott right away.

Five or six years ago a member of staff called Billo" resigned because of the seminary's support for gay seminarians.

FATHER MARSDEN:

The people responsible for getting rid of Father Marsden were a staff member and seminarian who had alcohol and homosexuality problems.

One person in the college wears makeup regularly and is often escorted to his room drunk by seminarians.

Another seminarian has been described as: " a bisexual who eats books".

Another seminarian has been seen walking around the grounds drunk, with tears in his eyes. 

This year in March/April a top of the range Mercedes parked in the college grounds. A seminarian, a man, and a woman were standing by the car. The seminarian pulled the woman close and kissed her on the lips. 

The seminarian and the woman were having a row about a priest the seminarian was close to. 

Eventually, the seminarian was heard shouting: "I LOVE HIM".

One seminarian was forced to give a homily apologizing to the other seminarians about not being a good brother. Since then he has gone very quiet and has started hanging about with the "holy ones".

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The question is Pat, with Marsden's sacking how long can things continue like this?


ENGLISH CATHOLIC BISHOPS 2013


What will bishops like Joseph Toal, Peter Doyle, John Arnold Mark Davies and Bernard Longley do when they find out they've been misled about their seminarians, some of whom are now priests?


THE SCOTTISH CATHOLIC BISHOPS 2017


How many of Xxxxx phone contacts in Oscott (whose texts and calls could now end up on the internet) approach Oakley and Keane and be honest with them?

Sex, lies, cover-up and illegal behavior.

Is this the Catholic Priesthood at Oscott College?



PAT SAYS:

It is very interesting that Father Marsden was despatched from both Maynooth and Oscott colleges.

Father Marsden is, by all accounts, a very sincere and faithful priest who seeks to uphold Catholic teaching and practice.

And yet he was unwelcome in these Irish and English seminaries.

His enemies seem to be actively gay priests and seminarians.


I think that Father Marsden has a duty to speak out and tell the Catholics of Ireland, England, Scotland and Wales about what is going on in the seminaries. 

Tuesday, 12 June 2018

SAINT PETER WAS NEVER IN ROME

Was The Apostle Peter ever in Rome




Jesus’ chief disciple examined
In this blog post, Brown University Religious Studies professor Nicola Denzey Lewis answers frequently asked questions about the apostle Peter. Denzey Lewis appears in the CNN series Finding Jesus: Faith, Fact, Forgery, which aims to investigate artifacts that shed light on the world in which Jesus lived.—Ed.




What traditions connect the apostle Peter to Rome?

Jesus’ chief disciple, Peter (also called Simon Peter or Cephas), has been associated with Rome for nearly 2,000 years. The earliest testimony to the apostle Peter’s presence in Rome is a letter from a Christian deacon named Gaius. Writing probably toward the end of the second century C.E.—so, around 170 or 180 C.E.—Gaius tells about the wondrous things in Rome, including something called a tropaion (see below for more) where Peter established a church—in fact, the Church, the Roman Catholic church at the site where St. Peter’s Basilica is today. But there are other traditions besides Peter’s tropaion. One early Christian text, the Apocryphal Acts of Peter, recounts many things that Peter did in the city. At one point in Acts of Peter, Peter is taunted by a flamboyant heretic, Simon Magus. Simon challenges Peter to a flying contest around the Roman Forum, but Peter’s prayers make Simon crash to the ground, proving that Simon’s powers are not as great as his own. At the end of this text, Peter, not wishing to be martyred for his faith, flees from Roman authorities on the Via Appia leading out of the city. Rather unexpectedly, Peter meets Jesus, who is traveling in the opposite direction. He asks Jesus, “Where are you going?” Jesus tells Peter that he is going to Rome “to be crucified again.” Peter realizes, from this, that he cannot flee from his fate. “Where are you going?” in Latin is “Quo Vadis?” and there’s a medieval church in Rome called the Church of Quo Vadis at the spot where Peter met Jesus. To prove that his vision was real, you can still see there a bit of marble pavement which the faithful say miraculously preserve Jesus’ footprints.

Is it likely that the apostle Peter went to Rome and founded the church there?

Interestingly, the Bible says nothing about Peter ever traveling to Rome. When the gospels end, Peter is in Jerusalem. It’s the same in the Book of Acts. The apostle Paul, in his letters, also talks about meeting Peter in the eastern Mediterranean. After Jesus’ death, Paul says that Jesus’ brother, James, and Peter are the co-leaders of the “church,” or assembly, of Jesus-followers in Jerusalem. In short, there is no early textual evidence for Peter in Rome, so for some people, it’s very hard to believe that he ever traveled there. Not only is it a very long way, according to the New Testament, Peter was a fisherman who was not very educated and who spoke only Aramaic; he was not the type of person that might travel widely across the Roman Empire to a large city where Latin and Greek were the dominant languages. The absence of connection between Peter and Rome in the New Testament, the lack of references to him in our earliest Roman Christian literature, and what we know of Peter’s background and character all combine to make it unlikely, to my mind, that he ever went to Rome.

Is there any evidence that the apostle Peter died in Rome?

There is no solid evidence—textual or even archaeological—that Peter died in Rome. Starting around the end of the second century, Christian pilgrims went to see Peter’s tropaion. But a tropaion is not a tomb. The word itself is very unusual; sometimes translated as “trophy,” it means something like a war memorial or a cenotaph (i.e., an empty grave). It’s not the word used in the Roman Empire for a burial place. Yet this spot—which was originally in the middle of an ancient cemetery—was quickly understood as the place where Peter was buried. When it was excavated in the 1950s, archaeologists were shocked to find that there was no grave and no bones under the tropaion. Only later were some bones produced from that excavation, and it’s a fascinating story we talk about in Finding Jesus. Are these Peter’s bones? That appears to be a matter of faith. The official Vatican position, first stated in 1968, is that they mightbe.

Why are there two places in Rome where the apostle Peter was supposedly buried?

This is another fascinating thing we explore in Finding Jesus. Most people know about Peter’s traditional burial site at St. Peter’s. But it turns out that there’s a second site in Rome where pilgrims went for hundreds of years, which was known as the Memoria Apostolorum(the Memorial to the Apostles). It’s off the Via Appia at the modern site of the Catacombs of San Sebastiano, and you can still go and visit it today, although the memorial itself is largely built over. What’s amazing is that the site preserves around 600 graffiti scrawled by Christian pilgrims in the early Middle Ages, most of them prayers to Peter and Paul, the joint patron saints of Rome. It certainly looks like people believed that Peter was buried there, but excavators found no evidence of a tomb there, either! As far as I can tell, this leaves us with two options: Either Peter’s body was at both these sites at one point and moved from one to the other, or Peter’s body was never at either site, but people still associated him with the site. It didn’t always take a body or a tomb for a site to be sacred, after all.





Nicola Denzey Lewis, Visiting Associate Professor in the Department of Religious Studies at Brown University, specializes in Gnosticism, Late Antiquity, Roman social history, the history of Christianity, and women and gender. Her recent publications include Cosmology and Fate in Gnosticism and the Graeco-Roman World (Brill, 2013) and Introduction to “Gnosticism” (Oxford Univ. Press, 2013).


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Peter’s Tomb
Recently Discovered In Jerusalem
by F. PAUL PETERSON
Saint Peter's Tomb




   "While visiting a friend in Switzerland, I heard of what seemed to me, one of the greatest discoveries since the time of Christ—that Peter was buried in Jerusalem and not in Rome. The source of this rumor, written in Italian, was not clear; it left considerable room for doubt or rather wonder. Rome was the place where I could investigate the matter, and if such proved encouraging, a trip to Jerusalem might be necessary in order to gather valuable first-hand information on the subject. I, therefore, went to Rome. After talking to many priests and investigating various sources of information, I finally was greatly rewarded by learning where I could buy the only known book on the subject, which was also written in Italian. It is called, "Gli Scavi del Dominus Flevit", printed in 1958 at the Tipografia del PP. Francescani, in Jerusalem. It was written by P. B. Bagatti and J. T. Milik, both Roman Catholic priests. The story of the discovery was there, but it seemed to be purposely hidden for much was lacking. I consequently determined to go to Jerusalem to see for myself, if possible, that which appeared to be almost unbelievable, especially since it came from priests, who naturally because of the existing tradition that Peter was buried in Rome, would be the last ones to welcome such a discovery or to bring it to the attention of the world.




    In Jerusalem I spoke to many Franciscan priests who all read, finally, though reluctantly, that the bones of Simon Bar Jona (St. Peter) were found in Jerusalem, on the Franciscan monastery site called, "Dominus Flevit" (where Jesus was supposed to have wept over [pg. 4] Jerusalem), on the Mount of Olives. The pictures show the story. The first show an excavation where the names of Christian Biblical characters were found on the ossuaries (bone boxes). The names of Mary and Martha were found on one box and right next to it was one with the name of Lazarus, their brother. Other names of early Christians were found on other boxes. Of greatest interest, however, was that which was found within twelve feet from the place where the remains of Mary, Martha and Lazarus were found—the remains of St. Peter. They were found in an ossuary, on the outside of which was clearly and beautifully written in Aramaic, "Simon Bar Jona".




PAT SAYS:

I believe that St. Peter was never in Rome for all the reasons outlined above by Professor Denzey Lewis.

There is absolutely no Biblical evidence that Peter was in Rome or died in Rome.

The uneducated Peter could not speak the languages spoken in Rome.

The 1950s study reported to the Pope, also show that Peter was buried in Jerusalem and not in Rome.


The Roman Catholic INSTITUTION was founded by the Roman Emperor Constantine.

That was a political and military empire.

When that Rome fell - another Rome emerged - The Roman Empire Mk 11 - the RC institution.

In the beginning, it too was a political, military and religious empire.

Gradually over the centuries it ceased more and more to be a military and political empire and became more of a religious empire.

In the late 1800s, the Pope lost all his land and he went into the Vatican where he tried to bolster his religious empire with the claim of papal infallibility.


In 1929 the dictator Mussolini, in return for Vatican support gave the Vatican land and money in a concordat.


The man coming to Ireland in August is not the successor of Peter. He is the current RC Bishop of Rome and the current "emperor" of the Roman Empire Mk 11. 


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76% OF IRISH WILL NOT ATTEND THE POPES MASS



According to a poll on journal.ie yesterday 76% of the Irish do not wish to attend Pope Francis; Mass in the Phoenix Park in Dublin.

19% said that they would attend.

4.8 % said they did not know.

I will be one of that 76%.

Ireland has indeed changed and will be changing more as time goes on.

The Death Knell is sounding for the Irish RC Church. And this is payback for the hundreds of years for the priest-ridden country perpetrated by the Irish bishops and priests.




It is payback for all the abused children, women and men.

It is payback for the Tuam Babies.

It is payback for the Magdalens.

It is payback for the thousands of children secretly exported by nuns.

It is payback for the dead orphans in unmarked graves in convents and institutions.

It is payback for Sean Brady and Brendan Smith.

It is payback for hundreds of years of sexual domination by priests with all it's guilt, misery, fear, denial.

It is payback for the Tyranny of the Confessional and Pulpit.

It is payback for all the unbaptized babies buried in family gardens.

It is payback for the hundreds of thousands of gay people who had to flee Catholic Ireland for Pagan England.

It is payback for Useless Amy, Dictatorial Dermo, Horney Casey, Kildorrery Crane,  Donal Giro, Nasty Phonsie, Maynooth, Magherafelt Gates, Gorgeous, Puck, etc, etc.

The Irish People have RISEN!

ALLELUIA!