Sunday 16 September 2018

FR RONAN DRURY - FR DAVID MARSDEN - MAYNOOTH HOMOSEXUAL CESSPOOL.


AND ALL THE IRISH CATHOLIC BISHOPS  KNEW EVERYTHING AND IGNORED THE SPIRITUAL DIRECTOR'S LETTER !!!!!




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FATHER RONAN DRURY


SINCE I STARTED TO EXPLORE THE WHOLE GAY UNDERBELLY OF MAYNOOTH SEMINARY THE NAME OF FR. RONAN DRURY COMES UP AGAIN AND AGAIN. THESE COMMENTS CAME IN YESTERDAY ON A BLOG THAT WAS NOT ABOUT MAYNOOTH:


1. "The trouble is we cannot assume the lineage began with Fr Ronan and have no witness from earlier times"

2. "I cannot wait to read about that vicious queen Ronan Drury. He didn't do a hand's turn in his life. I remember him saying, with a leery look, that Maynooth was the city of everlasting life, if there ever was one". 

3."Pat, Paul Prior was groomed and molested by Drury". 

4. "Pat all the abuse cover-up is linked to Hughie Connolly and Michael Mullaney. They covered up this certain former resident priest who systematically abused seminarians. The priest in question is deceased but his victims live on with the scars. No wonder Hughie ran off to Paris, his past history of abuse collusion is being exposed".


5. "Massive scandal emerging of a former resident Maynooth priest who sexually abused seminarians and was a sugar Daddy for Prior when he was a seminarian. Prior and Mullaney were groomed and received cash sums from this former resident priest who is deceased now. Hughie did his best to cover it up". 

6. "Dear old "Kitty" as Drury was known. He did like to take the younger students out to cafes. When he used to go to the Irish College in Rome to give his annual "homilitics" course he did pick up the odd South American student to help him with his "shopping". Now whether he acted in a predatory manner do not know. But it was perfectly obvious that the man was homosexual. A Carmelite student in Maynooth told me Drury was known as "Kitty" and that the circle of students he took out were his "kittens". My stomach churned so much I did not question further".

7. "Don't Pat. He was a great man who was dismayed at the actions and preaching of former students. Think carefully before releasing comments on those who hold a grudge against him".

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FORMER SPIRITUAL DIRECTOR OF MAYNOOTH BREAKS HIS SILENCE


FATHER DAVID MARSDEN











Maynooth: “cesspool of liberal theology and heterodoxy”


Former seminary priest speaks out on homosexual subculture and exposes the Irish McCarrick

Following the dark revelations of the McCarrick scandal, former seminary formator, Father David Marsden, decided it was time to go public on the real reason he resigned from Maynooth and why he remains deeply concerned about the presence of a powerful gay subculture in the national seminary.

Referendum a forbidden topic

The year is 2015 and debate in Ireland is dominated by the State’s plan to change the constitution to allow pairs of the same sex to “marry” – with such a blatant assault on God’s plan for marriage one might expect the Church to be vocal in promoting the natural law – yet despite the intensity of the campaign there was silence from much of the hierarchy – priests and bishops did not speak – afraid, unsure or compromised – we do not know. But the silence was deafening.
Even in the heart of Catholic learning – the Pontifical University in Maynooth there was silence apart from one lone clerical voice supported by the small group of orthodox seminarians left in the controversial seminary.
During a meeting of the seminary council and heads of faculty, months before the referendum Fr Marsden suggested that the seminary hold a Novena or Holy Hour or consider some other prayerful devotion so the seminarians and college staff could unite in prayer for a faithful outcome . Instead of support his idea was dismissed by the President – it was clear that the other priests did not want to do anything spiritual or temporal to defend the teaching of the Church. In fact Father Marsden was left with the impression that many of the staff preferred to remain silent and not even mention the referendum never mind speak out against it. The staff dining room became a place where the referendum was never mentioned.
CONNOLLY - PRESIDENT - OPPOSED MARSDEN CLEAN UP

In the run up to the same sex “marriage” referendum Father David Marsden delivered two powerful homilies in the seminary in which he spoke out strongly in defence of marriage between a man and woman and denouncing from the pulpit the perverted notion that people of the same sex could marry.
It was after the second homily that he was called into the President’s office and informed that a complaint had been made against him but the identity of the individual was not revealed to him. Fr. Marsden strongly suspects it was a friend of a homosexual seminarian who made the complaint as the Mass was on a Sunday morning and therefore open to all the students from Maynooth University.

Culture of fear: staff afraid to speak out

It was during this meeting that the President aired a concern that Fr. Marsden was becoming a ‘one issue person’ which implied he was becoming anxious that he was speaking out too much about the referendum and homosexuality in general. Fr. Marsden responded by saying the only reason he could be called a ‘one issue person’ in the seminary was because he was the only person saying anything about the referendum or homosexuality. The other staff members were either afraid to speak out or were homosexual themselves!
Despite the opposition from the staff Father Marsden received much support and was admired by many of the seminarians. But he was also aware of an active and vocal gay subculture operating freely in the seminary. When the referendum was passed this group became emboldened and had no fear in ensuring the others knew they were gay, sexually active and in the seminary with the full knowledge and support of their bishops.
Against this backdrop the seminarians were becoming concerned – the seminary in which they were training to become Catholic priests not only seemed to take a very liberal view of Catholic teaching but also encouraged a gay subculture to develop in the seminary. Exasperated and at the point of desperation one of the seminarians decided enough was enough and decided to write an anonymous letter to the Bishop’s Conference pleading with the bishops to intervene. The letter named seven active homosexual seminarians.

It is understood that this letter was sent back from the bishops office to the President of the seminary Monsignor Hugh Connolly but rather than take action to investigate the claims in the letter the seminary council began a witch hunt to discover the author. In the end a completely innocent seminarian was accused based on the fact that he had reported two seminarians – one of them his close friend – when he found them in bed together. No proof was given he was simply accused and thrown out of the seminary.

Notorious seminarian threatens Fr. Marsden

Father Marsden challenged one of the most notorious homosexual seminarians about his disordered lifestyle but was given an arrogant response “my bishops knows, the seminary council knows, my spiritual director knows – none of them have a problem with it so neither should you” – in other words shut up this is none of your business. It was after this encounter that Fr. Marsden knew it was now not possible to conduct proper formation in the seminary as such widespread dissent of Church’s teaching was blatant amongst the seminary council and the spiritual directors. It was at this point that he wrote a letter to Mons. Connolly tendering his resignation.
When Father Marsden tried to raise the problems he was seeing in the seminary with the Church authorities the response was to not only ignore his concerns but to ridicule him for raising them in the first place. He recalls one very high ranking cleric stating that “you see gays under the bed!” I wonder what he would think of that statement now in the wake of the McCarrick scandal.
In the end Father Marsden could no longer work in the seminary and retain his integrity so he chose to resign from what he describes as “institution riddled by systemic disobedience to Church teaching”
It was reported in the secular press during the summer of 2016 that the reason for his resignation was a conflict of theological outlook but this was incorrect. There certainly was a huge divergence of theological opinion with many of Fr Marsden’s friends being amazed at how long he managed to stay in the seminary. It was the issue of homosexuality which brought things to a head. The seminary has long been a ‘cesspool of liberal theology and heterodoxy’ and so those few staff members, down through the years, who maintained a fidelity to the Magisterium were often isolated and subtly persecuted.

Dictatorship of blandness

Fr. Marsden describes the model of formation in Maynooth as ‘a dictatorship of blandness’ meaning that any sort of vibrant or orthodox expressions of the Faith on the part of seminarians were harshly dealt with and suppressed. In fact the term that was banded about on a regular basis during staff meetings was ‘shadow formation’. This referred to students who went about studying orthodox theology from online blogs and media sites unconnected to the seminary as ‘the tripe they were getting served up by the theology faculty was in most cases utter drivel.’ Father Marsden explained ‘It is my honest assessment that the formation and academic staff in Maynooth are either liberal or homosexual and a significant number are both.’ The liturgy department seemed to be particularly infected with these two issues. One staff member was infamously called a ‘Bin man’ by a seminarian as he hated wearing a Roman Collar and was often found sitting in Pugin Hall endlessly gossiping about seminarians.
However it was towards the end of our discussion that Father Marsden informed me of his most worrying discovery – the Irish version of Father McCarrick. Maynooth has long been a hotbed of dissent from Church teaching where elderly liberal theologians like Enda McDonagh retain a high degree of influence on the teaching staff. Another such priest who lived in the seminary until his death last year was a priest of Meath diocese Father Ronan Drury. 


KITTY DRURY


Reading his obituaries and the praise heaped on him by bishops and the current President of the Seminary, Father Michael Mullaney one might picture Father Drury as a learned and jovial priest, popular with all in the seminary which was his home for 42 years – he was Professor of Homiletics there since 1977 until his death last year. He was also editor of the liberal Furrow magazine for 40 years.

The Irish McCarrick?

However Fr Marsden discovered a much darker and secretive side to Fr Drury – known also by his nickname “Kitty” – needless to say he was a notorious figure among the gay subculture in the college. His behaviour was such an open secret among the students that even the normally cautious Mons. Connolly felt it necessary to inform Fr Marsden that a credible allegation of molestation had been made against Fr Drury by an individual – the complaint was regarding inappropriate touching by Fr Drury of this person. Later, a priest also confided in Fr Marsden alleging that Drury had molested him as a young and vulnerable first year seminarian. How many more people did Fr Drury molest, were other complaints made against him and what did the authorities do with the complaints. At the very least Monsignor Connolly should have suspended this homosexual predator. The Catholic Voice would like to encourage any of his victims to come forward with the possibility of speaking in confidence about any abuse they experienced during their time in the seminary. Please use the contact email: info@catholicvoice.ie and we will listen to you in the strictest confidence.
A place like Maynooth is a playground for the likes of Fr Drury where he had daily one to one access to young male students. The question for the authorities is who knew, was his bishop informed and if Mons. Connolly was concerned about his behaviour what did he do to protect seminarians. Why was Fr Drury allowed to continue living there with open access to vulnerable young men. It is evident from Father Marsden’s testimony that an active and secretive homosexual sub culture is being allowed to thrive in the seminary with the approval of the ecclesial authorities – some of whom Fr Marsden suspects are also same sex attracted themselves.
At the time of going to press numerous attempts were made to contact the various bishop trustees of the college but none felt it important enough to return our calls. The current President of Maynooth was also contacted but he refused to answer any questions about Fr Drury’s deviant behaviour. The circle of secrecy protects it’s own.
But the faithful will not accept cowardice or silence and demand an open and transparent investigation into the various scandals which have afflicted Maynooth for at least 30 years – were payments made, who authorised the culture of cover-up and secrecy.The only sure way to end the disease in Maynooth is to send the remaining small number of seminarians to the Irish College in Rome and to close the seminary for a year or more until such an investigation is carried out and the recommendations from it fully implemented. The long-suffering faithful and those seminarians who have been abused and persecuted deserve such transparency or alternatively, the seminary should simply close. It is no longer fit for purpose and certainly not a place to send our future priests for formation and parents should do all in their power to dissuade sons from going there. This is a defining moment for the Church in Ireland and decent Catholics should not rest until every bishop stands up and takes direct action to purge the filth from the Church.





PAT SAYS:

Now the bubble has burst with Father Marsden speaking out.

They have turned Maynooth into a gay whore house!

All the bishops knew.

Hugh Connolly knew.

Mullaney, Collins, and Prior knew.

Diarmuid Martin knew.

Eamon Martin knew. 

They all knew - turned their heads away and let the whoring carry on. 

THE MAYNOOTH PIMPS AND MADAMS
And if Maynooth is now a gay whore house the Irish Catholic Bishops are the pimps controlling it.

Did Drury molest or abuse:

Paul Prior?

Michael Mullaney?

Tom Dennihan?

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308 comments:

  1. During a 'mass practice ' class old kitty was attempting to show us how to use a thurible. It was insulting for me as I belonged to a religous community who used one for vespers, benediction and Sunday mass. Now as every former altar boy knows your swing it with the chain. But old fr kitty told us to 'grasped it by the knob'. After sniggering for a bit (because to be fair I do have a dirty mind) I suggested that father number one: was wrong and two: rephrase. He asked why. And I explained in detail. He looked at me blankley and said in front of the uptight resident seminarians ' what is wrong with grabbing a knob?'.

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    1. This must have been in recent years, certainly not the 70s or 80s. Did he just get brazen as he aged? He would have felt freer to talk like that in recent years knowing he was surrounded by a gay lobby in the pros ref

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    2. 00.31: Very funny!!!!!Are you a gay queen that you use the insulting name "kitty"? What infantile stupidity from you! I'm sure you've handle barred many a "knob"!

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    3. In the next 10 - 15 years there will be hardly any laity attending Mass or the sacraments because of the gay infested priesthood and episcopacy. The Mafia can turn all the churches and seminarians into gay bars for all anyone will then care.

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    4. 10:03 to answer your questions systematically:no, no & finally no. Thankfully I was not a resident student there; I got to escape from the cesspool everyday. I found Drury amusing: how someone that obviously camp survived in maynooth all those years.

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  2. More right-wing demonization of good people.

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    1. Exactly.

      I Googled catholicvoice.ie and this twat appeared.

      http://catholicvoice.ie/index.php/shop#!/ONLINE-REGISTRATION-IS-NOW-CLOSED-PLEASE-PHONE-KIM-FOR-FURTHER-INFORMATION-TEL-05986-27268/p/54219699/category=0

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    2. Oh my goodness, 09.26, stop the press! We surely can't go calling for an investigation into abuse because of what's on the Catholic Voice website.

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    3. All the purple underlings are out today emitting their smoke screens and distractions, as usual.

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  3. I cannot let these allegations against Fr Ronan Drury, Professor of Homiletcs, pass unremarked. He was professor during my time at Maynooth. And not once, not once, did he even attempt to sexually molest me. (And I was a slim, fairhaired, blue-eyed, boyish-lookin' northern boy (by others' accounts, not mine.)

    Had he tried, he should have found my size 8 boot wreaking havoc with his balls.

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    1. That merely means he had taste, and was put off by your lank, greasy hai, filthy mouth and body odor.
      Homosexuals don't literally go for anything you know.

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    2. Well said. The predators in Gaynooth always chose well. They got the ones everyone wanted to bed!

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    3. Only a size 8 boot. Oh dear! I would have thought size 10 dear Magma.

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    4. Is that you Fergal?

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    5. He may have been interested in men; the Mick Lomansey type.

      (... just sayin like!)

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    6. You know what they say about small feet.

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    7. Exactly. That's my point.

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  4. What about Frankie Lee and Kitty Drury?

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    1. He was one of THE blue eyed boys of Kitty's heart. oh Francis, you make me weak at the knees!

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  5. Is the liturgy department in Gaynooth very big? How many staff?

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    1. Very big. Staff of 1. A Servite from Rathfarnham.

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    2. He could have been referring also to the liturgy centre in Long Corridor. There's a priest there too.

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    3. Oh yes. Is the Cork queen still there in the liturgy centre and I dont mean the reserved sour guy from Cloyne. I mean Cork and Ross

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    4. Scroll down for the current priests involved in liturgy teaching in Maynooth. Did Fr Mardsden have Paddy Jones in mind? Note the lack of clerical attire.

      The current professor of liturgy studied at San Anselmo, where there's even more action than in Maynooth.

      http://www.liturgy-ireland.ie/who-we-are.html

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    5. No, the story about the seminarian calling a priest a bin man was well known in Maynooth. It was said to the professor of liturgy.

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  6. Is the choir in Manooth part of the liturgy department?

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    1. Not officially, but most of the characters from Gaynooth on thus blog are or were in the choir.

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  7. Kitty Drury's dear friend in his younger days was Charlie Chant from Raphoe.

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  8. Who was Charlie Chant?

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  9. Charles H O Callaghan, priest of Raphoe. He ran the quire in Gaynooth and was professor of Music. Drury adored him.

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    1. "The 'quire' in Gaynooth? :
      'papering' over the 'cracks'?

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    2. Quire is in the dictionary. Its use is mainly an Anglican affection. They are good at affection, tbf.

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  10. I arrived early for a 'homelitics' class one Friday (a minor miracle as I usually dodged them) and Drury and myself were alone for about 20 minutes. He spoke about a former student of his who had won the 'Mr gay bear Ireland' competition. Why I do not know, but we had a 20 minute conversation about gay bears. Fr Drury expressed his preference for less hairy men.

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  11. Did Drury know Ledwiths catamite? Jaime, O Jaime!

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    1. To see, yes. To know, doubt it. But he sneered enough about the catamite and Ledwith.

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  12. Where's Mad Mull? Did he resign? What can he tell us about Drury? Did he know him?

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    1. FFS give the Mull a rest. You'll wear him out and our patience is in tatters. You've managed to wake the beast this morning. No resignation after all and a friend of Kitty O'Douse O'Dee to boot.

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  13. The seminary Council and the current president of St Patrick's College Maynooth need to step down. Allegations of institutional abuse and collusion have been made. An independent commission needs to investigate and be transparent with their findings.

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  14. It's absolutely disgusting and vile that this should be printed when the man is dead and unable to defend himself and there is no proof. It's very strange that someone so concerned would wait until the person was dead before speaking out. It's stomach churning. It's also very below the belt to label his photo as "Kitty Drury." Are you 12 or something? It's very juvenile. If he was gay so what? The Church doesn't condemn homosexuality. There is absolutely no evidence to support claims he was a predator or had any sexual contact with seminarians. Marsden has his own agenda. You might want to check that out before you print this stuff.

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    1. It's not a question of him being gay, but of grooming and molesting seminarians.

      Amazing that you or anyone else can say that there is "absolutely no evidence" to support the claims. We will see about that - I happen to think that if there are allegations of abuse, they should be investigated. Several liberal bishops in the US recently dismissed Archbishop Viganò's claims about Theodore McCarrick on the basis that Viganò is a conservative with an agenda. If there is a chance that children, seminarians or vulnerable people were abused, it must be investigated - that is far more important than any agenda that Viganò (or Fr Marsden in this case) might have.

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    2. Classic derailment techniques by 02:26. He'll rise far in the church!

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    3. There's not a doubt in the world that Ronan was gay and he was known as Kitty the hare for decades. I heard a President of Maynooth call him Kitty Drury many times,dear God now from Cappoquin. And you are right,so what if he was gay. It's a completely different matter to assume on the basis of anonymous rumours that he ever molested anyone. We live in a republican democracy under the rule of law. Anonymous rumours never make it to court, nor should they. This blog is beginning to look like SALEM!

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    4. I always read the blog but disappointed when Bp Pat quotes material from fake hetero sources like Church Militant or Catholic Voice. They’re usually bigger sausage washers than anyone else.

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    5. Marsden sounds like one frustrated fucked up man

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    6. Anyone who speaks out against the Homoheresy is labelled as a "repressed homosexual" which just reflects the narrow, filthy and murky prism through which unconverted and debauched gay priests and bishops reduce the entire world to.

      Their lives are concatenations of lie upon lie and the church has, and is being, asphyxiated by their corrosive presence.

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    7. @9:01 Good to know I'll rise far in the Church. I'm not even male so I'm not about your assessment.

      Any sexual impropriety should be investigated absolutely. No exceptions. You need tangible proof however. I've seen many cases where people have been falsely accused inside AND outside the Church so forgive me if I don't believe everything I read.

      My initial point stands. Why wait until he had died? Surely there's more justice to be served when someone is around to pay for their transgressions? People have the basic right to defend themselves and frankly, some of these stories just do not ring true.

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    8. 10:36 Listen dude, even as a lay student I knew Marsden to be leading a crusade against homosexuality. It was well known in Theology in general. This is not a man who has the truth as his prime concern.

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    9. You shouldn't have been in Maynooth as a lay student. It was founded as a seminary and thrived when it was and then things turned to shit when lay students were allowed in. It ceased properly to be a seminary in 1996 because of the likes of you.

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    10. Listen "dude" @ 11:28, I went through 7 years of formation in Maynooth and I believe all these allegations against Drury based on my experience of a gay dominated faculty, seminary council and seminarian body.

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  15. Pat I do strongly believe that Mullaney's position as President of the Pontifical is untenable now. Why is this man allowed to continue the protection of current and historic Maynooth Abusers. Drury was yes one of the most notorious abusers, however also three seminarians who are all in Theology. It is a circle of grooming and abuse within the seminary.

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  16. Drury would invite his kittens aka his favourite young seminarians to his apartment.

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    1. Several professors invited students, both alone and in groups to their rooms over the years. This doesnt mean there was anything sinister going on. I was in at least 7 professors rooms,one being Ledwith. No one ever laid a finger on me nor was there ever a hint of secual innuendo. Maybe I was was just an ugly duckling, or maybe we are reading too much into genuine signs of humanity and friendship in what was a cold harsh place in the 80s.

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    2. @5:44 I was invited to his apartment LOTS of times. Guess what? Nothing happened but a chat.

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  17. Mullaney, Prior, Collins and Connolly were all groomed by Kitty Drury.

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  18. Hugh Connolly approached me while he was vice president and I was a second year sem. I refused his request and was thrown out that summer.

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    1. Are you really serious? Or are you just utterly repressed and did you misinterpret his intentions? Hugh Connolly is not a fool. He would never shit on his own doorstep. Think about it. If he wanted sex, he travelled enough and could get it elsewhere, not in the fishbowl of Maynooth.

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    2. Are you the one who accused him of stalking you and got him into trouble with MacArevey?

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    3. Hello Fanny or Conman @ 09:59.

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    4. @10.23
      No I'm not. Also I am not durprised that there might be a second complainant.

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    5. OKAY Anon08.23 let me see if I understand you correctly. Hugh Connolly invited you to his room, you didn't go and so you were kicked out.

      Somehow there is a lot more to the story that you haven't told us!

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  19. Fun Facts

    1. Fr. Marsden learned to do the latin Mass (badly) from Fr. Gerard Deighan.

    2. That small group of “straight” orthodox seminarians are into lots of pomp and lace. They went every Saturday with Fr. Marsden to the latin Mass. (It was very inappropriate for a staff member to fraternise with students. Fr. Deighan would have them all in for a big breakfast after Mass)

    3. Fr. Marsden was a human growth counsellor. He was not a spiritual director. He said publicly that all gay people must go for conversion therapy and renounce their sexuality as it is disordered.

    4. Fr. Marsden has very good gaydar for a “straight” man.

    5. Fr. Marsden is a psychologist who used his position to incite hatred among the students. He crossed professional boundaries by using sensitive information he learned as a counsellor.

    6. His religious order does not want him. No bishop or seminary wants him. He is a trouble maker who has homosexuality on the brain 24/7.

    7. He is accusing a dead man who cannot defend himself which is a new low for Fr. Agenda Marsden. I hope his family and Maynooth sue Fr. Marsden.

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    1. It's far more appropriate for a priest to take seminarians to Mass instead of bed!

      A dead man cannot sue.

      Your attack on Father Marsden,anonymously, suggests to me that yiu are either part of the gsy gang or one of their defenders.

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    2. It is not an attack. They are just facts. Take them as you will.

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    3. Thank you.

      What you say is an important part of the debate.

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    4. I wouldn't believe any of the Lavender Mafia's "facts". Dangerous and mendacious the whole stinking lot of them.

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    5. Fr Deighan, an ominous presence around Maynooth. An intelligent and cultured prig!

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    6. Pat, you can hardly talk about anonymous attacks. All you do is publish same.

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    7. 08.32: For God's sake Buckley, why do you alwzys undermine the legitimate comments of others when they don't conform to your interpretative narratuve? Why do you accuse others who challenge unverifiable allegations with the usual mantra " you must be one of the enablers, defenders or part of the gay gang...". It's a lazy, devious, sinister and unintelligent way to argue. It suggests intellectual inability but also a very biased, prejudiced, blind and self serving agenda. God bless your hard and mean spirit. Fr. Drury is unable to defend himself and you think it's fair play to blacken his name?. Justice is not your forte.

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    8. @18:24

      Fun facts, or the hallmarks of a fake hetero homophobe.

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  20. Michael Collins is a lap dog for Mullaney. Killaloe want nothing more to do with Collins and his mistakes. The current Director of Formation was exposed in the Clare affair. I dont think Mick the lick would have the intelligence to manage a hen house, never mind directing men to a life of holiness and service.

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    1. What Clare affair? What was this?

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  21. Dear Pat Buckley.
    As someone who knew the late Fr.Ronan Drury as a teacher, mentor and friend for almost forty years I want to refute utterly the cruel and untruthful depiction of his character you have chosen to print on your blog today. His kindness and generosity towards his friends and generations of students was never tainted by any ‘predatory’ motivation or behavior. The truth of that can be found in the real love and affection he inspired in so many of his former students over his long lifetime and came from his never failing good humor and his frequent words of encouragement and compassion. He was never afraid to challenge the status quo and was often a lone voice in Irish Catholicism in publishing the views of those who distorted Gospel values within the church – no matter how elevated their status. I suspect this is where the roots of complaint against him really originate among those for whom the Gospel is simply an instrument of judgement and exclusion and whose hate-filled agenda disguised as piety is ever more to the fore today. He never uttered an uncouth or nasty comment about anyone in all the time I spent in his company and is completely undeserving of the assassination of his character by those who never knew him. As someone who claims to have the same mission of truth at heart Pat I hope you will discontinue these hurtful and spurious attacks.
    Paul Clayton-Lea

    I am quite happy for you to publish my name with this Pat.

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    1. Dear Paul,

      Thank you for that and for having the courage and integrity to publish your name.

      I only had one contact with Ronan.i sent him an article for publication in The Furrow.

      He called me to say he would live to publish it but it would be the end of him.

      You know better than I do the problems with Maynooth. They have to be explored and sorted.

      I am sure that Ronan in happy in heaven and these things cannot hurt him in anyway.

      I would be quite happy to publish unedited, a short essay by you or anyone else defending Ronan.

      Warm wishes,

      Pat.

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    2. Dear Fr Paul, your comment is myopic and most galling to victims of clerical sex abuse.

      Just because you did not have any experience or awareness of Drury's proclivities does not mean Drury was not a sexual predator.

      My skin crawled during Drury's homiletics classes and I heard many rumours regarding him during my formation.

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    3. 09:00

      Where is the evidence? Did Fr. David Marsden SCJ go to the police with the hard evidence he has or did he just go to an extreme newspaper to throw dirt?

      I wonder

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    4. Clerical sexual predators are the most cunning and unconscionable people on this planet who do not have a flicker of conscience. Given what is being exposed in the Church globally, Maynooth and the entire Irish episcopacy need to be investigated by an independent group of lay people.

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    5. @09:10 A priest confided to Fr Marsden that he was abused by Drury and Mon Connolly also told Marsden about a credible allegation against Drury. It's another classic case of lies, smoke screens and cover-ups. The Irish church is on the verge of collapse and it's no wonder why. Your problem with the Catholic Voice is that it is a truly Catholic paper.

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    6. My suspicions that the vast majority of Irish bishops are gay is now confirmed beyond doubt. They all knew about Drury and Ledwith but did not nothing. Drury's and Ledwith's legacies in Maynooth is one of the main causes of the implosion in vocations. It is reprehensible and the laity's only option is to now withhold funds for the upkeep of Maynooth until this entire mess is sorted out.

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      A few reports to the charity regulator regarding misuse of the seminary education fund is needed.

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    8. You can leave out Irish and just write, the vast majority of bishops are gay and they cover for each other and their underling friends. It's a club built on self interest and self preservation, just like the free masons and many other closed groups.

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    9. MournemanMichael to Paul Clayton:
      Thank you for your comment. I have no view on the merits of the argument over Fr Drury, for I have no information other than what is published here.
      But my thanks to you relates to my perception that your comment seems based on personal experience, is expressed candidly, kindly, and without rancour. Nor do you make a hostile critical attack on other comments expressing contrary views to your own. As such, your comments carry more weight than those contrary criticisms which, to me at least, seem full of agenda driven bias.
      And I repeat: I have no knowledge of the facts, but have respect for truth and justice when honestly expressed.
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    10. And he had the courage and integrity to put his name to what he wrote.

      That does give him high standing.

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    11. 9:00 Oh you heard rumours but didn't experience anything. Must be true then. Keep circulating them rumours. Helpful they are.

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    12. Of course Drury did not try to molest and harass everybody; that would be stupid and suicidal to his longevity as a predator. Sexual predators like McCarrick are world class liars and the most charming people you could meet. But behind that faux charm lurked a dark evil that has destroyed lives.

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    13. 0.90: While I agree with you that Fr. Paul's comment may be galling to victims of sexual abuse, nonetheless, we are entitled to challenge the veracity or otherwise of allegations being made about others, especially if the person had died. We cannot have a free sports day impugning other people's character once they're dead and feel we can say what we like. That's a travesty of justice. While I abhor abuse of any kind, I share Fr. Paul's experience and memories. That's called honesty and must be accepted as his and (my) recollection. Others may have a different narrative. Apart from those who were horribly abused by whosoever, and who seek Healing and Justice, some commentators today are in a frenzied anti Catholic rant with absolutely no concern for victims.

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    14. Paul Clayton-Lea, the man you describe is the man I also knew and admired from 1966 until hie death. Countless others can testify to the same. But there is no defence against calumny. Now we know the full horror of what Pope Francis called "the tyranny of gossip".

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  22. I agree that the atmosphere in some of our seminaries may well not be perfect, and that an excessively gay culture has been allowed to dominate to the exclusion of other ways of being and living. The equilibrium needs to be re-established, where a seminary is a place where people of all tendencies can be allowed to discover and develop their vocations and their various gifts for ministry, within the requirements of the life of a priest, namely holiness, prayer, simplicity of life and chastity and celibacy. This is what the Church says a priest should aspire to, so it seems reasonable that this should be what seminaries expect of their seminarians and future priests.

    However, in re-establishing the equilibrium, I am not sure that the tone being delivered by the likes of Fr David Marsden is particularly helpful. I think he has a particularly orthodox and right wing agenda that tends to overemphasis sexuality and homosexuality. In my experience, when somebody becomes overly singly focused on sexuality and homosexuality, it is usually an indication that they have a difficulty with these matters in their own lives, and do the classic thing of denial and becoming more hard line as a defence. I note that Fr Marsden did not last long in Oscott when he moved there. I suspect that he was a divisive figure, pushing a hard line agenda that was not conducive to a well rounded and integrated formation atmosphere and programme, and an environment that was peaceful and settled. Seminaries should be led and staffed by well rounded, wise, and sensible people, not by zealots who set people against each other and pursue extreme agendas. Father Marsden is one of the latter, it seems to me.

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    1. You make important points.

      And Father Marsden may be as you say.

      But we must address the matters he raises?

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    2. 08:37 says seminaries should be led and staffed by well rounded, wise, and sensible people.

      E.g. Ledwith, Connolly, Prior, Ahern, Collins? LOL

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    3. Cue the usual liberal deniers who tear into whistleblowers and dismiss them if they are orthodox. This is how men like McCarrick, Wuerl, Cupich and Tobin prosper.

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    4. 08.44: Pat, as usual you have resorted to innuendo and gossip to insinuate sinister motives behind, what is for you, always the basis of truth, sadly. Can you personally verify your assertions? Can you establish TRUTH since you are so concerned? Having encountered Fr. Drury frequently as my lecturer I can honestly vouch for and attest to the direct opposite to what's being alleged. Shame on you - Hypocrite Buckley.

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    5. @09:56 Well I can attest the direct opposite of your assertions re Drury having encountered his smutty and bawdy language laced with homosexual innuendo.

      My year used to call his homiletics classes "homoletics", such was the "ambience" set by the Rev Drury.

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    6. @08:37

      Sadly, it only gets worse as they get older when these men realise life has passed them by.

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    7. One Sunday, when I was in I Div, some of my relatives visited me in Maynooth. It was already the afternoon and they were keen to go to Mass as they had not been that day.

      I happened to be showing them around the college chapel and then Kitty emerged from the sacristy, vested for his private Mass in one of the side chapels.

      I asked if we could attend. He grabbed my upper arm, and with a lascivious grin said "it'll only be a quickie but with your looks you'll be used to that".

      My brother, who saw and heard this, was horrified.

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  23. I never mixed in Ronan Drury s company , but I knew him to be a Gentleman.

    I would be of the mind that he never harmed anybody in his life really.

    You can find the personage you are looking for but it is not Ronan Drury.

    Bill Mulvihill

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    1. Bill, we the good people of Monasterboice are having our first Sunday free of you as our pastor. We are being cared for priests sent by Archbishop Eamon who was always very good to you. We will heal the wounds you inflicted on us.

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    2. Fr Bill, please be careful in making subjective assumptions in relation to Drury based on your scant contact with him. You more than anyone should know how crafty clerical perverts can be?

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    3. 09:13, er, you're 'being cared for'?

      How old are you all down there?

      Three?

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  24. .......and as I have printed on this blog before and I stand over it....Hugh Connolly is a decent man taken out by those he was unaware were against him including Mc Arevey. As an aside , I posit that Mc Arevey took time out in connection with a matter unrelated to his then diocese. Another murky Northern ( with a Southern Hemisphere connection...but the power of the GAA).

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    1. 09.12: You vicious little prig Mulvihill! You conveniently forget that Bishop McArevey was very involved (in shock and in grief) with the profound sadness at the tragic death of his nephew's wife. Continue to insinuate your own theories painting people in dark shades. Look at your own darknesses Bill! They are many.

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    2. Mulvihill "posits" all sorts of evil fantasies about good people whose names he is unable to spell.

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  25. At the time, some thought Marsden was ‘the moving finger.’

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    1. What he is trying to say is Fr. David Marsden wrote the anonymous letter which got Conan kicked out. He let Conan take the fall for his actions.

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    2. If that is true it is very sad and a great injustice has been done.

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    3. No ,it was a seminarian who wrote the letter He is no longer a seminarian.

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    4. It is very simple Pat. In his role as a counsellor Fr. David Marsden knew who identified as gay from their psychological reports. He systematically went after every gay man until it blew up in his face.

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    5. Yes of course. Think about it. It did not matter to Fr. Marsden if someone was celibate or not. He see’s gay men as disordered and thus unable to be priests at all. Ask Anthony Murphy if marsden thinks a gay man can be a priest and you will get the answer you are looking for. :-)

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    6. Papa Franco himself says gay men should not be priests 09:41.

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  26. I am, at this time the parish priest of Monasterboice, sorry to inform you.

    My letter is ready, but has not yet been submitted, soon....

    Your ignorance of the facts as they really are I am sure are matched in the ignorance of your personality. Canon Law is watertight, I am well versed in it.
    Mind your business and stay out of mine.

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    1. Bill I said nothing about parish priest. I used the word pastor. Read properly. Regardless of titles, letters, laws you will never be back here. Just clear out our house so our new pastor can move in. We look forward to seeing the remover truck.

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    2. 09.23: If you want people to stay out of your self obsessed business, then why have you used this blog to advance your story and your vendetta against so many people? Do you expect those against whom you have been nasty, vicious and inductive to remain silent? Do you expect the parishioners of Monasterboice to put out the red carpet of welcome after your insulting and demeaning treatment towards them? Bill, the REALITY and TRUTH is that you created your own mess by your obstinancy, ignorance, immaturity and selfishness. You are not a victim - but you have victimised many. Get real.

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    3. Now he is treating "his" parish as his fiefdom, having crushed his parishioners into the mire. This is the very pinnacle of clerical arrogance (as if he wanted to live out the worse extremes of the tradition just after declaring his apostasy from it).

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  27. ......No Mauritian murdered her.....

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  28. So what's been said here above and previous is if you have a genuine vocation and are a man of 'straight' orientation you are best forget about it and forge another path and career?

    Reading that litany above is quite sickening and off putting in many respects.

    It's like sign posts in the dark saying 'Gay this way' and 'Others, Dead End'

    Essentially that's what it is a swirling pool of secrets, woeful acts and behaviour that has ruined men's mental health and well being.

    How many men are still carrying hurt, painful memories, depression, anxiety and have yet to speak out or present themselves as people that have fell foul of the Maynooth culture?

    How many of those men are in current ministry and how many of those men know quite a lot of what happened in Maynooth but decided to remain quiet to further their own careers?

    Classic case of too many questions and not enough if actually no damn answers, well no credible answers or actual people anyway.

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    1. Excellent and insightful comment 09:34. My thoughts exactly with regard to this never ending scandal which has its source in St Patrick's Seminary, Maynooth.

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    2. Anon. 10:17 - you are so, so welcome.

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  29. 9.92

    Go raise the dead Michael O Neill and then you can leave me alone.

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  30. Believe me I am sorry I ever heard its place name...you have slaughtered quite a few 'Pastors' and the others died early for relief.

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  31. Fr Clayton-Lee and MC say that Kitty was lovely to them and never misbehaved. Is this the classic denial strategy of "it didn't happen to me so it didn't happen to anybody"?

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    1. Anon@09.55- maybe it's because it just didn't happen to anybody.

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    2. Drury was a popular member of the Maynooth community for half a century. He was always thought to be gay -- and was jokingly called "a thing of beauty and a boy forever" -- but never until now has anyone suggested any improprieties in his personal life. Bitter homophobic bitches are behind this scurrilous insult to a man just after he has been removed from the scene. I hope his family will sue.

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  32. Are we missing the big picture?

    The culture in the church has allowed "Teilhardian" infiltration of a gay culture and this culture is actually protecting and sustaining it. That culture, which Francis calls clericalism, is based on authoritarianism and secrecy. Underpinning all this is the fundamental confusion caused by the lie of the Devil-diabolical deception-don't bring the church in to disrepute or cause scandal! The scandal has been caused by sin. It needs to be brought into the light and to set the sinner and the church free-not covered up. The body of Christ is scandalised by the lack of truth. If the hierarchy cannot come out with the truth THEN just as in France or in Russia their will be a revolution.

    Teilhardianism thrives on apathy and incredulity! Who will wake up and stand up against it for Jesus and the Church?

    Well done Fr Marsden may many more have the courage to stand up for the truth through out the world. Especially the hierarchy. As Francis said-"No matter what the cost!"

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    1. How was so irresponsible a slanderer as Marsden allowed to be spiritual director in Maynooth?

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  33. Ronan Drury's legacy includes the woeful standard of preaching in Ireland. He was professor of homiletics in Maynooth for far too long. I remember the Furrow publishing an article about the laity's unhappiness with the preaching they hear. I wounder what Ronan thought of that?

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  34. A disgusting and perverted article. Were on Earth did you dig this one from Pat? Never have I read an article that was so perverse, right wing, and peppered with hatred not just of Maynooth and it's staff but modern Catholicism. The author is blinded by his own sense that his vision of the Church, and the "saintly" Fr Marsden who he makes out was crucified on Maynooth's altar for holding Catholic values. What rubbish! Good men have been demonised, Fr Ronan held up as an abuser (with out warrant or proof) simply because of an agenda that the author does not subscrise to. I'm surprised at you Pat as a liberal and free thinking cleric for giving this coverage. However what has delighted me is the views of those expressed who have seen this for what it is. Rubbish!

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    1. Its not about Church Militant or Catholic Voice.

      Its about the former spiritual director of Maynooth making very serious allegations.

      They must be examined, verified or refuted.

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    2. So was the liberal president of Maynooth Hugh Connolly a liar when he revealed that there was a credible report of abuse by Drury?

      Why is this rotten place still open. There are only 23 seminarians living there now in a place built for 650. That's far too small for a healthy community life.

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    3. 10:21 I very much doubt Hugh Connolly was going about telling people about allegations made against others. That's firmly not allowed for legal reasons.

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    4. 10:21 there are also over 100 lay undergrads, the same amount registered for the catholic certificate in education, masters and PhD students, seminarians who travel in for the day. Lay students from both campuses who use pugin hall. It’s so hard to get a free lecture hall in maynooth. Maynooth is not just a seminary but a very successful pontifical university

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    5. 11.21 - Well, Connolly doesn't have a very good track record when it comes to questions of right and wrong. Remember his outright denials on RTE that there were strange goings on in Maynooth? And elsewhere he said that Maynooth was a healthy and wholesome place for forming men for the priesthood!

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    6. @11.21
      Hugh Connolly would allow a sample of info be leaked; get people on board with tge idea that they may be like-minded and then drain them for what they know. After this he would assess how much of liability they are. This was followed by one of two actions;
      A - throw them out and say they were disgruntled
      B - ordain them and let them get what they want out of the church.

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    7. Marsden shows so clearly that the berserk Catholic right, whose patron saints are Michael Voris and Steve Bannon, will stop at nothing.

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  35. Why was Ronan Drury allowed to spend his entire priesthood in Maynooth, never serving in a parish and even living in the college in retirement. The same question applies to Enda McDonagh and Paddy Hannon. Brendan Devlin asked to be made a PP when he retired as the last priest professor of French in Maynoith. He lasted a couple of months before scuttling back to the college.

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    1. There was a time when the staff were all given permanent contracts which guaranteed that they could live in the college until death. That is no longer the case, but that's why these older priests are still resident there.

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    2. Ronan continued to teach homiletics until recent years and continued to edit The Furrow until his death. Not bad for an alleged lazybones!

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  36. All quite ignorant and slow


    I have apostatised .

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  37. This kind of outrageous behaviour also went on in other Irish seminaries in the past.

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  38. 9.48

    " pointlessly precise conformity " lol lol lol

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  39. @9.59 What Pat published is a well toned down version of what happened. The move was made at a point where the strange goings on had really worn me down and I was particularly vulnerable. Had I been gay it may have worked out otherwise. Many a priest is foolish in Maynooth. on FR RONAN DRURY

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  40. @9.47 Don't forget Tom Clancy from Cork. His ego must be shot at not getting a mention here.

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  41. It should not matter if you are Gay or straight. God calls people to serve him who are Gay, Straight and bisexual. What is at issue is the practice of sexual relations in any way. No man should be having any sexual relations with anyone be it a man or women while in formation or ordained as a priest. Were it is found that people are sexually promiscuous then they should be dismissed. On the same note those who are obsessed with outing and targeting other fellow students without good reason should also be dismissed. There is an obsession with sex in Maynooth!

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    1. I dont know about obsession.

      But there seems to be great sex in Maynooth.

      It has replaced Soho and Monto in Dublin.

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    2. Exactly. Where it is proven!

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    3. Believe me Pat- there is not as much sex as you would like to think in Maynooth. Sorry to disappoint you. But there are some who are obsessed with sex and with outing those who they perceive as Gay, regardless of any evidence. They judge people on how they walk, talk and perceived mannerisms.

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    4. 10.37: Sorry Pat, you have a PSYCHOSEXUAL PERVERSION as you devote much of your daily blog to semi pornographic imagery and language that you seem to relish. A reading of your language suggests a sick, moral and spiritual mind, but cleverly disguised in a supposed search for truth. You need to clean your own deeply flawed nature. A reading of Isaiah, Hosea, Jeremiah and the Gospel of Jesus will guide you in moral, spiritual and ethical integrity.

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    5. I agree that Pat's pseudo-prophecy does seem to be a kinky compulsion. But like Trump he keeps the headlines coming, spewing poison daily.

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    6. totally agree 10.35. Many good celibate sincere gays in the church. BUT don't be fooled and caught unawares like Benedict was by those that are not so! Incredulity or turning blind eyes will allow the promiscuous, idolators to flourish!!

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  42. Byrne had so much gay sex in Maynooth. Then Wilson came on the scene.

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  43. Pat ask Wilson about what happened in Sauna Babylonia.

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    1. 10 52: Pat knows all about saunas - he'll tell you what goes on within - part of being gay!!

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  44. Anthony Murphy and the 'Catholic Voice' right wing rag can't be trusted on this one and he has his own agenda. He keeps company with some strange bedfellows I can assure you. The hierarchy are more than aware of his contacts and sources. Machiavelli eat your heart out.

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    1. Fearghal Darach Brannon16 September 2018 at 12:59

      Anthony Murphy may have his own agenda, and so do you, clearly.

      Our agreement or not with his agenda is not the issue here. The issue is the claim that there may be cases of sexual abuse of seminarians to be investigated. Should we risk the truth coming to light because we don't like the agenda of the messenger?

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  45. Morning Pat

    Where is the wee Armagh seminarian Brendan Marshall at? He is not back in Maynooth.

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    1. We would like to know.

      I recently wrote to Amy about the seminarians.

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    2. According to his Twitter account BJ Marshall is back in the National Semen-ary.

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  46. Wow! Over 120 comments by 11.30. Must be a record

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    1. I was about to say the same thing

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    2. God is exposing the rotting edifice of the Lavendar Mafia's ideology which has infiltrated the Catholic Church during the 20th & 21st centuries. The party is over now chaps because God Himself is about to clean you all out!

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      Well done, buddy... So now you don't have to.

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    4. @12:48; AMEN.

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  47. Might be a record to have so many nosey gossips posting but proves nought as usual on this blog. All hearsay and tit bits of gossip but Pat produces nothing concrete, not much changes.

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  48. One of the problems is probably the seminary system, which was designed to take priestly formation out of the hands of the local church. If there were a bishop who really wanted to take his candidates out of the cesspit there would be nothing to stop him returning to an older model. He could house his seminarians in a house connected with his cathedral where they could be nourished by the liturgy and assist to make the cathedral liturgy the exemplar for the diocese. It would require an investment in teachers, of course, but would have the advantage that the students are not out of sight and out of mind.
    Who knows, the bishop could even set eyes on the candidates for his clergy, in the daily office in the cathedral. Oh, sorry, there isn't a single bishop bothered enough to take this amount of care, and a priest this bothered would never be appointed bishop.

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    1. Neither is there a single Cathedral in Ireland that has Liturgy of the spiritual quality that would be a means of such daily nourishment. A couple of them can put on a “good show” but that’s all it is - a show.

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  49. Bishop Pat,'Irish Seminarian'#MeToo

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  50. Bp. Pat, The cowboys are 'circling the wagons' big time!

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  51. Pat, the reason that a record has been set for comments received is because you are now at the very root of the puss filled abscess. The very root indeed...

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  52. So much for renewal and reform after the jamboree in the RDS!

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  53. Magna Caca at 00:36 - only in your dreams/wishful thinking were you slim, blue-eyed, blond, etc. Sounds like your type though. What’s all that business about your nephew?

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  54. Oh...we're in Murphy's law territory alright!

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  55. I reckon there's a tsunami of caca to hit the 'proverbial fan' before too long!

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  56. 'The Blockheads' are out in force!

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  57. Concerning Fr David Marsden: It would be useful to hear from somebody who knows the situation at Oscott as to why Fr Marsden was there such a short time, and some of the reasons for his departure. I'm sure there are some correspondents who frequent this blog who will have some insight. My guess is that it was judged by the seminary authorities that his approach was out of kilter with what they are trying to do, and that he is a divisive character in that kind of community. I don't sense any feeling of "bereavement" on the part of anybody from Oscott at his departure, indeed perhaps a sense of relief ?

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    1. David Marsden seems to be a homophobic bully, and that such deeply good man as Drury and McDonagh are named in the same breath as him is just nasty.

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    2. The root of the puss-filled abscess -- only in the imagination of homophobic rightists who see The Furrow as hereticsl, God help their wits. But don't worry, Pat will dig to deeper roots -- maybe he'll end up "outing" St Paul and Jesus. He's certainly on a roll, hell-bound.

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    3. Sexual exploration, even of the kind that the old Church called a mortal sin, is a vital part of self-realisation even in seminaries. It is part of growing up. Fr Marsden obviously thought he knew better than the staff of the two seminaries whose staff he has now left but he doesn't know better.

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  58. Magna...'Sing a new song to the LORD'...turn the tables...and... start caca kicking to beat the band aka 'The Blockheads'. Robin.

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  59. Where's Mr.Bellarmine and the holy mother church brigade?

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    1. She's lurking in the shadows, as is her wont: posting under 'Anonymous'.

      But, alas for the barking one, her poorly constructed argument (inability to write coherently...like a three-year-old), her appalling syntax and punctation unfailing give her away as the blog's uneducated f**kwit. 😆

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  60. There's a tsuanmi of caca on the way! Watch this space!

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  61. Pat was going to do so much on this and so much on that issue but has achieved f**k all. The last big scandal with Mulvihill has ended up in a Court - No mention of the priest now in that case which according to Pat was going to cause the resignation of so many including the Archbishop of Armagh. Here we go again with similar hot air from Pat, all talk but not a tiny shred of evidence. This post won't get published. Look back over a year on the blog and see so many cases highlighted by Pat that have come to nothing because most view him as a nothing and a nobody who is going nowhere.

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    1. Oh, you are so wrong. Most view him as a nutcase who is going round the bend!

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  62. Buckley, you surely are a foul piece of shit. To allow the good name of a deceased priest whose life was exemplary in ever way to be maligned in such a nasty and vicious way is a disgrace. You are going to get what coming to you, you evil swine, and I don't mean a solicitors letter. This calls for a hands on approach if you get my meaning.

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    1. Agree with all except last sentence -- which would be contrary to Ronan's gentle nature.

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    2. I'll gladly lend a hand.......In fact both hands!

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  63. Correction

    Fr. David Marsden SCJ’s contract was not getting renewed. Maynooth allowed him leave before being fired. He brought all his issues to Oscott and did the same thing there. The students hated him. Fr. David Marsden has nothing to lose as he will never be hired again anywhere. He was in Maynooth for many many years and never challenged Fr. Drury. He waited until he died. I call that complicity and cowardice!

    Sting of a dying wasp comes to mind.

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    1. Business as usual in Maynooth and Oscott then? The Catholic men of Ireland are voting with their feet when it comes to Maynooth seminary.

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    2. They hated him because they are all gay!

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    3. A seminary with 23 seminarians and 5 first years is the thing that's dying. Even the rector has opined that the college chapel will never be full again of seminarians again in his lifetime. Time for the life support to be switched off and declare that the charade is over.

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  64. The Truth will set you free even when the truth is as revolting as the fact that Brendan is back in Maynooth - according to his own Facebook page with pictures.

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  65. It is official that Maynooth has the lowest intake of fresh-meat, only 5. Plenty of space with 450 stalls. No one will have to sit too close to anyone for fear of being groped or molested. They can do that in the rooms.

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  66. Pat Buckley I've just prayed for you, I never thought I could be brought to that point!

    You're a vile, vindictive and nasty piece of work! A low life comes to mind!
    You'll bring nothing down in life but yourself, fact.

    How would you like if anything was maliciously spoken of your dead close family relations. I.E you're Late Mum, Dad or sister.

    Not nice allowing this kind of attacks on the dead!

    I see this blog in it's 'end of life' state!

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  67. I doubt very much that Ronan Drury RIP is the “Irish McCarrick”. I would agree with Paul Clayton-Lee and Bill Mulvihill.

    I think essentially he was a harmless old queen and the most “dangerous” thing he ever did was leer at young men.

    I definitely do remember him engaging in double entendres but I just can’t think of him as predatory in the sense of McCarrick and others. I could be wrong of course.

    Fr Marsden, it would seem, clearly has issues - shall we say. That notwithstanding, there is very definitely a grave dysfunctionality in Maynooth; and a strong “Gay” cultural bias has embedded itself there that is incompatible with priestly formation. There needs to be a thorough investigation.

    I sincerely hope Eamonn Martin is taking very seriously grave concerns and serious allegations in relation to at least two Armagh seminarians.

    I don’t believe for one moment that Deenihan, Mullaney and Prior fell in any way “prey” to Ronan Drury, or anyone else in Maynooth. I would be more concerned about their stewardship as priests in authority over seminarians, in the not too distant past - and to date.

    Quizzing seminarians, for example, about wet dreams, erections and masturbation is voyeuristic and a gross violation of professional and spiritual boundaries.

    In any case, most victims of predators don’t prey in return. If anything, they became more acutely aware of the safety of others, more vigilant and conscious of the need to protect children and young people from what they themselves suffered.

    In my time in Maynooth, I was happy enough and had good friends. I was not aware of anything sinister or untoward. There were occasional whispers and nudges but nothing remotely like the stories that have come out in the last few years, highlighted by Pat Buckley and the national media. Clearly, there is something very serious amiss and it needs thorough and impartial investigation.

    There indeed may very well be the Irish equivalent of Theodore McCarrick but a cleric as low-ranking as the late Ronan Drury doesn’t fit the bill. Old “Killarney John” (the totally eccentric and mad John Quinlan, Professor of New Testament, Kerry diocese, RIP), used to refer to Drury as a “glorified Third Divine” on account of his lack of post graduate academic qualifications.

    Ex seminarian in the 1980’s, now husband and father.

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  68. Bill; Buon pomeriggo. The papa razzi are on the blog, so today we'll be circumspect. Did you post the letter you got from 'the powers that be' from poste vaticane? Tell us Bill! Go on...go on...go on...!Had you done so, you'd have got it back with a 'return to sender' sticker from the King of Kings! Speaking of stickers, I understand from 'the grapevine', there's 'cowboys' in your 'neck of the woods' on a 'sticky wicket'! Bill, remain sitting on the bench outside the 'jacks' on Bishop Pats patch of the Vineyard. I understand the 'caca' is shifting and regrettably, it may stink to high heaven! Bill...'Who do you say... I AM'? Ciao.

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  69. Heck, Bishop Pat! That piece by Anthony Murphy has all the melodrama and hysteria of some anonymously-written accusation from the McCarthy era, in the States. The subtext says of Murphy himself: 'Screamin' queen!'.

    It is not unbiased journalism, Pat; it is highly emotive, clearly agenda-ridden, and, therefore, unreliable.

    What impresses me is substantiation, not naked accusation. Murphy provides the latter in almost cornucopic quantity, but nothing of the former.

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