Sunday, 1 April 2018

CORRUPTION AND BEAUTY GROWING TOGETHER




Yesterday I watched some of the Holy Week ceremonies from The Vatican on Youtube and they left me with very mixed and very contradictory feelings.

On the one hand, I was impressed and moved by the ceremony and music. That kind of ceremony and music is one of the main reasons I am a Catholic and not a Protestant.

On the other hand, I was intensely aware of the vast corruption within the organization, of which The Vatican in is the HQ.

I spent some time reflecting on how beauty and evil can coexist in the one place. That reflection left me questioning and puzzled.

The ceremonies were conducted with absolute precision. The vestments and trappings were impressive. The language was attractive. 

And then my eyes fell on that old reprobate Cardinal Bertone, sitting in the front row, the former Vatican Secretary of State and one of the most corrupt creatures in current day Rome. 

I asked myself - "How does all this fit together"? What do God and Jesus think of it all"?

 And then I remembered one of Jesus parables - the Parable of the Darnel and the Wheat


Matthew 13:24-30 New King James Version (NKJV)
The Parable of the Wheat and the Tares
24 Another parable He put forth to them, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field; 25 but while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat and went his way.26 But when the grain had sprouted and produced a crop, then the tares also appeared. 27 So the servants of the owner came and said to him, ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? How then does it have tares?’ 28 He said to them, ‘An enemy has done this.’ The servants said to him, ‘Do you want us then to go and gather them up?’ 29 But he said, ‘No, lest while you gather up the tares you also uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and at the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them but gather the wheat into my barn.”




Of course, Jesus lived before the scientists gave us weed ( or tare ) killers that can be sprayed over the crop, protect the wheat and kill off the tares that are choking the wheat. Had He known about weed killers might He has altered His parable I wonder?
It seems quite wasteful to allow the weeds to exist for a full harvest time and do a lot of harm in the process.
In recent years and decades, those who have been watching the Roman Catholic Church closely have seen a lot of the tares exposed – the child abusers, the abuse cover up merchants, those who buried babies in septic tanks, those clerics who have turned seminaries into gay saunas, etc.
The really effective “weed killers” have been the international exposure of these weeds in the international media – and of course legal action and the relieving of the RC Church of billions of pounds, dollars and euros in compensation.
Here in Ireland we have seen the acres of weeds exposed in Dublin. Ferns, Cloyne, Dromore, Down and Connor and Armagh.
Last week we watched Armagh James going around with his mobile telephone weed killer camera.
Maynooth has been exposed as Gaynooth.
The Boston Globe, Spotlight and many media outlets have created weed exposing articles, TV programmes and award-winning films.
So it seems that while the Good Lord has promised to separate the wheat and the tares at the end of time – He has encouraged or at least allowed much earthly husbandry to do quite a bit of weed killing on this side of the great divide.
God helps those who help themselves.
God wants us all to be weed killers in this life.
And He has promised that any weeds we miss will be dealt with by Him at the end.

That sounds like a good balance to me! 

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  1. Amen Bishop +Pat. I think you hit the right nail on the head with this.

    I also like that as a good Christian you referred to scripture to put forward your proposition.

    God Bless.

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  2. Pat in every box of apples you will get one or two bad ones but you seem to take some sort of pleasure in talking about the bad priests or those that don't play by the rules and in a way as a result tarring all priests with the one brush. Do you do this because the church in Way kicked you out, maybe because some had problems with you before you moved to Waterford to complete your studies.

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    1. In this case I feel the barrel is rotten and the good Apple's are the exception?

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    2. The whole institution is rotten to the core; it's website address, w2.vatican.va, should be changed to rotten.va.

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  3. Pat, it's a pity you can't apply scripture to yourself. You'd be a far better icon if you did. You should let the Word of God be a mirror for you so that you too can clearly see the hypocrisy, contradictions, moral flaws and spiritual deficiency in your own life. Always quick to point out the failings of others. Even satan can quote scripture to suit his agenda. I am so proud of the wonderful ceremonies celebrated in our parish and so inspired by the beauty of the Ceremonies from The Vatican. Yes, beauty and ugliness can exist side by side - even in your life too Pat! Surprise!!

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    1. Beauty? Vulgarity to others.

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    2. To my knowledge, Bishop Pat has never denied the co-existence of virtue and vice in his life, all the while aspiring to be like the one he serves, God himself.

      I'm currently reading an instalment of Pat's autobiography, A Sexual Life, A Spiritual Life, and it's an amazing, and utterly (almost naively) honest, window on this man's personal history, his psyche and soul. I have never read such striking and candid self-disclosure, one without the usual distractions of self-aggrandisement and self-pity. But there is pathos in the book, all the more powerful for being unintended.

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    3. No 'self aggrandisement" you say?
      Will you be taking that particular leaf out of Pat's book then.. Yes?

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    4. @13:15
      Don't say that to him, he'll start writing his autobiography! And utterly dreary it would be.

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  4. I would like you to do an article on all of the very good and faithful priests that we do have in Ireland. Men that work hard and are true to the calling of their vocations.

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    1. It's fiction you're after, then?😆

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    2. No Magna! - Not fiction. It's called giving good people their due.

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  5. Having been in a College setting over Easter I have seen the ceremonies celebrated with full honours so to speak. Music came from all backgrounds including Roman Catholic. It made me think of the universal church and the mission of Peter and Paul. Is the Oratory affiliated to any wider church group and if so how does this express itself.

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    1. Good for you Sean. Sounds as if you had an uplifting experience. I hope you remembered us.

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    2. I watched a television series on BBC 2 over the weekend on liturgical, spiritual, and other preparations and activities around Easter at Canterbury Cathedral. What an enchanting programme. Would dearly love to worship in Canterbury at Easter. The services were ethereal.

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    3. 11.50 Thank you. Everyone prayed for

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  6. 00:27 What a load of tosh ! I don't think you can find someone like + Pat whose flaws and weakness have been laid so bare ! He seems to me to be honest about who he is and what he is doing and where he is going. Not all of it makes for comfortable reading, not all of it sits easily with some of the things that other Christians think of as godly and right, but at least he is transparent and is prepared to have the awkward things about himself on show, as well as the admirable things.

    Put that in to contrast with most other clergy that you meet. Think back to those muppets who dealt with James (yes, challenging and awkward he might be), in such crass and pompous ways. I would wager that if you scratched the surface of their lives and got a glimpse in to their inner selves and their inner lives, indeed even their secret lives, there would be much that is not publicly known or that they would not like to be known ! At least with + Pat it is all on show, and like it or loathe it, you see what you get. WYSIWYG ! That has an honesty and integrity about it, and + Pat, for all his faults, should be lauded for that rather than undermined.

    I think one of the reasons that clerics and bishops in the Church, in Ireland and elsewhere, read this blows that they know + Pat is a challenge to them and even subversive of and dangerous to their comfortable status quo, because he is so honest about himself, about the Church, and most importantly about them. And, as Corporal Jones used to say: "they don't like it up 'em ! "

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    1. 9 01: You can be fooled all you like by Pat. You can distort my words to suit your biased prejudice. I would never take Pat as my guide or inspiration. His remit, self given and self chosen is to condemn, judge, ridicule and attack in an arrogant way - all too self righteously - every priest who, in his humanity, has flaws and failings. The impression perpetuated on this blog is that Pat is the only "right " one, the only true Alter Christus. Patent nonsense..There are many,many wonderfully good priests seeking to be true followers of Jesus and who give selflessly of their time and commitment for the well being of their parishioners. This is precisely what we as priests are called to do but to do it without necessarily trumpeting it from the roiftoos, as if to suggest, "look at me, I'm great". The work done by many clergy is done quietly, away from the applauding crowd and done with great love and fidelity. Yes, weeds do grow in all our lives but we try to attain new life and growth with God's grace. Pat is no challenge to me or my community or to the Church. Jesus is my challenge, my vision, my guide and my inspiration. Thank God, the hudreds of parishioners who celebrated Holy Week abd Easter in my parish were challenged, nourished, uplifted and united. The muppets (priests presumably) you speak of are good, decent men, trying to get on with their Holy Week work and commitments and to be harrassed in that manner by an unwell person is not appropriate. All the priests I have wirked with and whom I enciu ter are honest enough to k ow their faults and limitations but also know their strength and capacity for good. If you look honestly at the hundreds of parish communities in our ciuntry, you will find powerful witness given by the majirity of priests. They wouldn't be so artigant or self righteous as to boast and believe they're better than anyone else. Many,many priests courageously achieve amazing change and renewal in their parishes. Pat can spout all he likes but his legacy of inciting hatred, vike, nasty and venomius vengance against clergy is not a very commendable legacy. Nir has the embers if his Paschal Candle gine too far past Larne. Let him sow seeds of new communities as promised for 30 + years! Then I might take him seriously. It's always eaxy to criticise while sitting at a laptop and scourung through tabloud gosdip to down others, even genuinely good priests. Admirable things are happening all the time in our parishes - much of them inspired by priests. We thank God for their service.

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    2. 9.01: Remove the blinkers from your eyes. While Pat is trying to be different, with his own rules, laws and anything goes mentality, yo which he's entitled, don't overlook the humble, faithful, courageous priests who bring about renewal and good wirks quuetly every day in their parishes. Whike there are some who bring disrepute to the Church, the majority of priests try their utmost. Tarring all of them and trying as you are doing, ignorantly, to persuade that we've all got corrupt lives, is morally dangerous and most un Christ-like. The Christ of the gospel is our wisdom, guide and source of grace - not Pat!

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    3. 12:38, 'Remove the blinkers from your eyes'? How would you know there are blinkers? Can you see through that thick blindfold you're wearing?

      'While Pat is trying to be different, with his own rules, laws and anything goes mentality...'.? You have described, in the proverbial nutshell, the spiritual history of institutional Roman Catholicism for the past 1500 years. It is why the Church is in such a stinking trough of moral degeneracy and debauchery today: child sexual abuse, its cover-up through lies (and 'hush' money), the stink of financial corruption at the Vatican, Satanic ritual and worship among certain clergy, etc.

      Your self-deceit is moral cowardice. While glorying in the self-styled lie that Roman Catholicism speaks for the 'one true church', you were indifferent to, and tolerant of (even indulgent of) this moral canker within the Church. Your smug self-righteousness has allowed Satan to work unhindered.

      Just thought ya shud know.😆

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    4. I admire the good priests who have rightfully defended themselves today against the continual onslaught . As a lay person I wonder how Pat and certain others can feel it is OK to treat good people to this daily verbal abuse. It makes my stomach churn at times. Today I feel angry.. It is all so predictable and dejavue.
      It is their life's work.

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    5. There is no such thing as a good priest, 13:27; there are only good people.

      Roman Catholic priesthood, by its very theological nature, is corruptive of human virtue, because it would have mere men 'ontologically' elevated above others; this is not the mark of the servant Christ called his disciples to be.

      The theological rationale for Roman Catholic priesthood is conducive to neither personal humility nor servitude of others. In this respect, it is the unholy antithesis of Jesus' model of service.

      Until this morally corruptive concept of priesthood is revised and re-written, good men who enter seminary will be stained by their training to become a hindrance to the Kingdom rather than a guide to it.

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    6. Magna, awake from your slmumber in fullness. Be awake: be aware and stop your childish responses, like a spoiled child. Your contributions today reveal a pathetic mind set, derp rooted with hatred, bigotry, ignorance and a poisonous heart. You have proved all too frequently your own moral and spiritual malaise and deficiencies. Thank God for the GOOD PRIESTS we enjoy in our Parishes. Your jealousy, your flaws as a human being are so insidious that you are self destructing daily. I really couldn't care. You of all people are not fit to give definitions of what you believe true priesthood is - you are irrelevant and insignificant. As has been said, your humiliation at being dumped out of seminary still damages your humanity. And I thank God daily for the gift of Priesthood given me. I try to live the ideal, not from your piggy, hateful mind or insights, but from the Lord Jesus. So, Mags, get a life and stop degrading yourself each day. Your behaviour is an insult to the God who created you. I and my many fellow priests are no hindrance to the Kingdim. Rather it's the hatefilled fools like you who have ended up lonely, bitter, angry, jealous and loveless. Now, off you go to your pig sty. If I sound self righteous, it's because I am proud of my TRUTH.....

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    7. 17:53, y'know, me old bucko, if you really are a priest, your nasty, vicious post proves what I have been saying all along about Roman Catholic priests (and priesthood) in many of my comments.

      You're not particularly cerebral, are you? (Guffaw, guffaw 😆)

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    8. 12.38 I'm sure there are amazing priests out there who are coragiously fighting an uphill battle. Pat is not making stuff up as he goes along. He oposes unjust laws and structures. Like many of us I believe he has mellowed over the years and learned from mistakes

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  7. A good few weeds cropped up during the ‘Armagh James’ saga. I imagine they need hoed on a regular basis.

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    1. No; they just need weeded out altogether.😆

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    2. Poor Magna, so innocent when it comes to being "hoed".

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    3. Oh, I get it. This is homo-slang, right?😕

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  8. God bless Armagh James' poor soul. The videos brought much needed laughter to me in a mere sombre Holy week.
    He seem's to be a troubled, confused young man.
    Harassment and torture is not the way to fix things but I'd advise his wife/ partner to seek mental health care for him.
    Thoroughly enjoyed your thoughts on Easter Sunday, left me with much to think about.

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  9. I watched many Diocesan Mass of Chrism and they were uplifting some had faults in the celebration but the big Issues were the Archbishop's, Bishop's homilies and they were mostly the same theme to the Clergy and Deacons look after yourself but the under lying message to them who were not was to seek help and the renewal of the Priestly vows and really a warning "your number is up ".
    The laity and really most Archbishop's and Bishop's are not going to have them in the Church as Clergy , Deacons or Seminarians.
    Was them on Churchservicetv.net or mgnmedia.com very uplifting.
    Pentecost is not far away and hopefully the Gift of the Spirit will help to renew the Church in these times. However as said above one bad apple does more damage than the cart so Bishop's, Clergy and laity will try and erode these bad apples as many of us know who they are.

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    1. Why do some people use the ownership apostrophe "s" incorrectly over and over again in ordinary plurals?!

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    2. Because they are as thick as champ.

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    3. Ha ha @ 14.17.
      You are quite right I suppose...

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  10. If God wants weed killers you better watch your back Pat, you're a ginormous weed on the lawn of the church.

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    1. 'Lawn of the church'? Ha ha ha😅 That particular lawn was paved over with ugly slabs a long time ago. No grass grows there now, just revolting weeds sprouting from seeds under the joins. Ha ha ha😅😆

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    2. When I'm expecting visitors I like to mow my lawns back and front.

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    3. Oh Magna do try to be accurate.
      ...it's crazy paving!

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    4. The secret of a successful bush is regular trimming.

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  11. There were rows of empty seats in St Peter's Basilica at the Easter Vigil. First time I've ever seen that happening.

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    1. For heavn’s sake will you get over your fixation with numbers of bums on seats in Rome. There were only four people in Gethsemane and Calvary.

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    2. So it doesn't matter that the Church is in decline and that the fabled Francis effect is just that, a fable.

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    3. 13:49, Oh, there IS a 'Francis effect'! But it isn't what people have been led to believe.

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    4. You are quite simply WRONG about the scarcity of numbers at the Pope's Mass. The Daily Mail, which can be critical at times today reports the attendance as "tens of thousands'exactly like the attendees reported here on the blog yesterday. But of course, that doesn't sort the agenda of some...

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    5. All is in God’s hands, decline or no decline.

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    6. Look at the videos on the Vatican News channel on YouTube. Rows of empty beige seats behind the high altar during the Vigil big empty spaces in the Square on Sunday morning. Both were full houses under Benedict and JPII.

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    7. 18:26. Yes those two popes promoted spiritual tourism. Francis prefers people to worship with their local community.

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  12. I make no apology for not liking those ceremonies. The man they honour is not entitled to it and as a Jew would be offended by it. Jesus stated that he knew exactly what religion was like.  He presented himself as a crusader against bad religion.  He knew of the violent commands of God in the Old Testament commanding the brutal murder of “sinners.” He knew that women were given no religious place or honour. He upheld how men took little girls to marry them and even banned the girls from divorcing. He knew that the religious leaders were charlatans and corrupt. He said they just promote outward religion with no concern for what is in the heart. He complained how they put their man-made rules above the scriptures. If he founded another religion or even just supported his own religion then he has to take responsibility for the terrible consequences. Christianity has seen more sectarian violence and in-fighting than any other religion. It is so much of a placebo for evil that its work against abortion is fruitless – Christians abort sometimes far more than pagans do. Usually they do it is as much. The religion realises it is a complicated faith so often it talks about the faith journey. Hitler must have been on a faith journey for he selected teachings of the Church that helped him stir up indifference in Germany for the fate of the Jews. The Church must take responsibility for what Hitler did. But it does not. It is not any Christian's place to say the evil has to do with men not Jesus for they cannot really speak for Jesus. They cannot talk to him as one man to another. And it is bigotry to make insinuations against others to defend Jesus.  He is responsible for that too.

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    1. Yours is a powerful post, 12:37. And, in my opinion, is mostly truthful. It deserves serious debate here, but the usual shower of Christian cowards are usually too busy navel-gazing to notice truth.

      Yes, Jesus protested false (man-made, like Roman Catholicism) religion, but his Father was never this. Judaism had not only denuded itself of God, but had dehumanized and degraded its members, seeing them as chattel to be subdued and controlled, especially women and children, rather than the family of a loving God.

      But how can God be held responsible for this? And why do you think Jesus endorsed Mosaic Law for its strictures on female marital age and divorce? Remember Jesus did not write Scripture: others did. And they often got it wrong. Hence Jesus' annoyance and protests.

      As for abortion, you're spot on. Well, more or less. I laugh when I hear Christians protest abortion on the ground that human life is sacred, but see nothing morally contradictory in supporting the taking of human life in other circumstances.

      Not only this, but the sheer hypocrisy of Christians who protested abortion while socially stigmatising young women who fell pregnant outside marriage (and thus, in many cases, made abortion the most attractive option). Why they even shut these women away in prisons that they called 'launderies' to show them how righteously they disapproved of them and the bastards they give birth to. Such holiness would have moved Jesus to tears.

      Jesus is responsible for much, but not for the sins of the religious ****** who would claim to have acted in his holy name.

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    2. 14.58 I always think of the woman caught in adultery when I see the self righteousness of some of the anti abortion brigade. I have known two friends who have had to consider it. In the end they didn't have to do it. They are both so nice they would never have forgiven themselves.

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    3. 16:09, I thank them for having the moral selflessness and courage for not doing so. But I would not be permitted by Bishop Pat to express my anger at the kind of society (Christian?) that would have shamed them into doing so.)

      These women are real heroines: self-sacrificing, noble and good.

      I salute them.☺

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    4. MC, you should not presume that I would not allow you to express that anger.

      I might ask you to refrain from certain angry , objectionable words like the 4 lettered words.

      But I think you are more than capable of expressing that anger without those words.

      So why not give it a go?

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    5. Bishop, I'm afraid to give free rein to my anger, for it's more rage than anger. And its force is primal, visceral.

      It is not an emotional smart bomb, capable of homing in on select targets, but indiscriminately destructive: the innocent would be hit along with the guilty.

      Institutional Roman Catholicism has such sins to atone. But it will not do so, such is its monumental self-satisfaction. Some of those who post on this blog are its defenders; it is they who will feel my lash.

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    6. 12:37 Yours is a defective argument to hold the church (churches?) responsible for the evils of Nazi Germany on the basis of Hitler’s selective reading of Christian theology which is an abuse of that theology in itself.
      The main opponents of Hitler were people of Christian convictions.
      Hitler had many Christians killed because of their opposition to National Socialism.
      Hitler’s ideology is in diametric opposition to Christian theology on the fundamentals: sacredness of human life; justice; truth.

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    7. Magna, easy for you to unleash your inner evil. Be careful with your language. You are a vile specimen. You should not be allowed free rein to abuse others. Psycholigically you practice a strange type of perversion as you only see the darkness and negative in all things and in people. The evident hatred of your heart and twisted thought processes you display require professional assessment and immediate intervention. God help you.

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    8. 16.09 If the people who make great sacrifices to defend the unborn bow out of their work, your friends would never have heard of the pro life position. They would simply never have heard of it, because no one in their lives or their families or upbringing would ever have mentioned it. And that could still happen in this country. I remember a young teenager listening to a sermon in Medjugorje where the priest spoke about protecting life. Outside she was shocked, saying she thought abortion was a personal matter. That's what she was taught at home and school, that abortion has no affects on society or life in the community or the world. And we now know how quickly euthanasia follows abortion and aren't we all heading with increasing vulnerability in that direction? Interestingly it takes only about 36% of the voting public in Ireland to create an absolute majority and bring in anything they want. A sobering thought.

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    9. Magna is so longwinded! My God , how tedious he has become..

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    10. Luther is responsible for most of German anti-Semitism.

      Didn't Pope Pius IX (I realise that pre-Vatican II popes have no currency though the Conciliar popes are canonised quickly) say that we are all, spiritually, Semites?

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    11. 21:56, and from where did Luther inherit his anti-Semitism? Why from that Christ-betraying w***e, instistutional Roman Catholicism!😆

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    12. 21:56 It was Pius XI in 1938. Not a line Pio Nono would adopt.

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    13. Thank you 19:38, I get my Pius's mixed up, sometimes. Very significant that it was said in 1938, contra the Nazis presumably? Did he promulgate Mitt Brenender Sorge (unsure of the spelling) which was read from all the Catholic pulpits in Germany.

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  13. Clogher curate2 April 2018 at 14:14

    Here's an inspiring story about Fr John Kearns. He's one of the good guys of Clogher diocese and he's a keen motorcyclist and has become a sort of chaplain to the biking fraternity, including a good number of Protestants and lapsed Catholics.

    Hearing that he is unwell, 107 bikers did a run out to his house and 60 of them took him out to Bundoran.

    John is a constantly smiling man and he brings a lot of life experience (including 12 years in the Guards) to his ministry.

    http://www.impartialreporter.com/news/16126598.Ill_priest____cherishes____support_from_biking_friends/

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  14. Pat was the former Dean in attendance at the Down and Connor Chrism Mass in Divisminster?

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  15. Nice reflection Pat, it reminds me of Ying and yang and the darkness and light co-existing together - similar to our lives

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  16. Surely Big Lily could confirm or deny the presence of the former Venerable Metroploitan Dean at the Chrism Mass in Divisminster.
    Perhaps any Tyneside readers could watch to see if our very own prelate Noel attends the Requiem for Keith Patrick in Newcastle this week. After all His Eminence is a son of D&C.

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    1. Indeed 17:18 Any diocese would be represented at the funeral of a local born churchman who has done so well in climbing the episcopal ladder especially at this time of renewal.
      Alleluia Alleluia

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    2. Pat, I'm not sure that it's our job to take out some of the weeds. It involves too much conflict in my view. I think the Spirit works best when we try to work despite the distractions of the weeds (which look like wild oats - similar to wheat but useless for harvesting). The less open conflict then the more people actually become sensitive to the weeds and the more we find the right path and right responses to others. Just my own thinking.

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    3. I do understand your perspective.

      But surely if The Lord gives us a small part of his garden to be responsible for He expects us to manage both the crop and the weed.

      "God helps those who help themselves" ???

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    4. The whole point of the parable is that the weeds are NOT removed until the harvest.

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  17. Pat, could we keep the people of South Africa in our prayers. The country seems to be headed in an ominous direction.

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    1. no more than any other country hun

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    2. SA has always been a violent, harsh place. The direction isn't new tbh.
      Do you know what the quote from Winnie - 'with our boxes of matches and our necklaces we shall liberate this country' - refers to? A folk violence well exceeded by the violence of the regime at the time.
      It's a harsh (environmentally) country damaged by repeated conflict in the competition to survive.

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    3. Yes, evil Winnie is gone. Thank God!

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    4. 21.17:You should have finished your sentence....and evil Magna has surfaced all day spouting out a diatribe of hate, with long Wikipedia paragraphs and insulting all before him. Go to your bed, evil one!

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  18. Pat, what does it say for the New Papal Nuncio’s reputation after the appointment of Boyce to Dromore. Surely he must have had some role in such an appointment? Some in Raphoe, like myself, are disgusted at such a move after his reputation here in Raphoe. If this is how the new Nuncio means to go on then God help us all. Sounds like another incompetent yes man.

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    1. how about you tell the nuncio that and not Pat.

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    2. 20.22 The Nuncio like previous ones wouldn't listen, Pat does - that's the big difference. If you are suggesting he would listen then, quite frankly, you are deluded by making such a silly suggestion.

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    3. Of course that nuncio was involved! It was that bloody bastardo who recommended the appointment of Bumbling Boyce to the Oily Latino.

      I used to mock Sinead O'Connor for tearing in two, on national television, a picture of that priest-paedophile protector, Polish fathead JPII. Her behaviour turns out to have been prophetic: these men care nothing for the likes of ordinary Catholics; they couldn't give the proverbial two f**ks!

      STOP FINANCIALLY SUPPORTING THESE INDOLENT, PARASITICAL, SPONGING BASTARDOS!

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    4. 21.07: What are you complaining about? More inane nonsense to try and defame the Nuncio! You have little to worry about. Get the messsge: Pat cannot do anythi g except make trouble and encourage others to do likewise. He has nothing to do with the Catholic Church. He deserted years ago.

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    5. Wake up, grandad. The appointment of Bishop Boyce is heardly breaking news.

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    6. Oh ignore the young pretender to the name of Magna Carta. He's stoked after a day of drinking and when he's like that the slightest thing sets him off, like his girlfriend springing a slow leak.
      He'll stagger up to the attic in a bit, put on his soutane and preach a sermon to the congregation of old dining chairs and hatstands, who are, let's face it, the only people who take him seriously.

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    7. Magna 21.28. You're f****d out of your mind with booze. You hate spitting bastardo. You are as despicapable as those you condemn. You are a mad, unwell man, consumed by bitterness, jealousy and adding to your miserably, broken life.

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    8. Mag the rag, go to hell, you hateful person. You should be in prison for your incitement to hatred. It may happen as yet. I shall seek advice. A rotten human being and rotting more and more.

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  19. Hate to disappoint you 21;38 but the nuncio and the hierarchy will read this blog if they have any sense. In corporate life nowadays it is by blogs and social media platforms that senior management find out what is going on.
    The media will also read this and other blogs which ‘flag up ‘ areas where a story might be found. No smoke without fire, and all that!
    I have no doubt that a lot of Armagh’s upsets, Coyle, McCamley etc, the Gaynooth ‘strange goings on’ and the recent Malachy Finnegan business either began on Pats site or at least were given a boost here.
    So,my friend, senior church officials who fail to keep an eye on this site do so at their peril !
    Hence they will be well of anyone with promotions or episcopal aspirations.

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  20. 21.38 & 22.11 It’s news to people here in Raphoe whose families were abused by Eugene Greene and Boyce covered up. It’s news to people in Dromore where Boyce has been sent in the wake of the cover up of Finegan. I’m sorry the abuse of children by Priests and it’s cover up seems trivial to you, I’m sorry that’s hardly breaking news for you. It’s people like you who defend and facilitate the abuse and the abusers. Maybe you are just one of those that just prefers to look the other way.

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  21. Very insightful.... would you ever think of doing a podcast +Pat? You could even record a service at the Oratory and upload it onto YouTube. Sounds complex but it’s really not that difficult. Would be wonderful to catch services on the internet

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  22. Nuncio had nothing to do eith Boyce. It’s a metropolitan’s job to irganise an apostolic administrator if a diocesan administrator is not being appointed. Most likely Eamon Martin asked Philip Boyce if he’d fill in pro tem and out of a sense of responsibility he agreed.

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    1. Rubbish 23.46, ask Martin O’Brien who keeps spouting on the airwaves (not very articulately) that Boyce was placed in Dromore by the Vatican. If it was down to E Martin why didn’t he take it on himself or a fellow active Bishop from North or South of the Border. Dermot Clifford of Cashel was placed in charge of Cloyne after all.

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  23. Pat, all day you have facilitated Magna in his abuse. Magna is now simply a monument of twisted inner ugliness. There is no vestige of anything spiritually aesthetic in this creep. You should try and help him. His mind is damaged by excessive drink and God only knows what else....

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  24. The said Clifford’s stewardship of Cashel & Emly would be worthy of a blog post in itself.

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