Wednesday 4 July 2018

"A SHOTGUN ORDINATION"


A PRIEST OF KERRY DIOCESE HAS CLAIMED THAT DURING HIS POST ORDINATION SPEECH, KING PUCK, SEAN JONES, JOKINGLY REFERRED TO HIS ORDINATION AS A "SHOTGUN ORDINATION",




He also claims that Kerry priests and people were scandalized by "the two big camp Italians" that were floating around Movane parish and village.


ST JOHNS TRALEE


The priest has also said that RAY BROWNE has appointed King Puck as the curate of St. John's Parish in Tralee.

BROWNE


Apparently, he is celebrating the Masses this weekend in Listowel Parish where he worked as a secret deacon.

The Kerry priest said that, unusually, only 20 of the priests of the diocese attended Jones First Mass in Moyvane on Monday evening last and that many Kerry priests are unhappy with both Jones and Ray Browne over the ordination and the negative attention it has attracted to their diocese.

PAT SAYS:

Ray Browne does not realise it yet - but he has just made a great big EJIT of himself.


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VATICAN CHOIR SCANDAL

NARDELLA


03 July 2018 | by Gregorio Sorgi The Tablet

Vatican choir involved in financial scandal, Italian newspaper reports

The Vatican has suspended administrative director, Michelangelo Nardella, and opened an internal investigation into his alleged financial misdoings

The Vatican’s choir is said to be involved in a financial scandal, according to reports from the Italian newspaper 'Il Fatto Quotidiano'.




The paper reports exclusively this morning (3 July), that the Vatican has suspended the administrative director of the Sistine Chapel Choir, Michelangelo Nardella, and opened an internal investigation into his alleged financial misdoings which are associated with the choir’s international trips. 

Il Fatto Quotidiano also reports that some of the signatures attributed to the Secretariat of State regarding the choir were forged.

The investigation is being led by the apostolic nuncio Mario Giordano, who has heard evidence from the director of the choir, monsignor Massimo Palombella, and from Mr Nardella.

The Vatican has suspended the choir’s trip to the United States, which was originally planned from 1 July to 26 July.

Mr Nardella and his family live in a 400-squared metre flat in central Rome, where cardinal Domenico Bertolucci used to live until he died in 2013. According to Il Fatto Quotidiano, both Nardella and his wife have their private offices inside the building. Nardella’s wife, a psychologist, controversially converted the former chapel of the building into her personal office.

In recent times, the Pope’s choir had not been involved in any major scandal.

The Sistine Chapel Choir was founded 1500 years ago, and is the oldest existing Church choir.

107 comments:

  1. That's news? Hows this about the priest who had gay sex on an altar. https://www.dnamagazine.com.au/whoops-priest-busted-for-filming-gay-sex-act-on-the-alter/

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    1. 23.35: People, irrespective of their work or profession, who are diagnosed as psychologically unwell do not need a pounding into the ground but professional help, which is what's happening in the case you refer to. I don't think you are well motivated by your contribution but seek rather to further destroy someone...have some humanity, you dope!

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    2. 11:04 Bang on the money there! Yes indeed, any Roman Catholic priest who sins in this distubing and grave way is really psychologically sick, not sinful. But any other person is in mortal sin and in need of confession and penance.

      Yes, people are too harsh with Roman Catholic priests for their behaviour. Too harsh. Too unforgiving!

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    3. 11.04 It's good that help is available.

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  2. "Ray Browne has appointed King Puck as the curate of St. John's Parish in Tralee."

    The Rose of Tralee seems more appropriate.

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    1. "Rose of Tralee"? - - I hardly think so!

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  3. And you Bucky - rotten specimen - continue in your ignorant, un-Christ-like way, seeking always to destroy others. There is nothing of Christ in You, you EEJIT....NOTHING OF CHRIST. TWISTED MENTALITY.

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    1. Cry me a river Brendan

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    2. Bless him! He tried his best, poor thing, yesterday on the blog to make himself angelic. Marshall is very tainted and should not be in a Seminary, he is damaged goods and a liability.

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    3. Hi Brendan.

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  4. 'A shotgun ordination'?

    Did Jones wield the shotgun...against Mr Browne's head?😆

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  5. I remember once during seminary observing the bishops during Mass. I couldn't stop watching bishop Browne. He was giggling uncontrolably like a silly little girl. To me at the time: I thought he looked a complete waster and an utter idiot.

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    1. Silly little boys giggle too, as it happens.

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    2. The operative word being 'silly'.😆

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  6. Many a good man was never going to make it to ordination because their faces didn't befit the gig bestowed.

    Many flawed men were however readily ordained because their faces fitted the gig and their mouths talked the talk.

    The Church has paid and continues to pay the penalties of such idiotic and agenda driven ethics by vocational directors and ordaining Bishops across the Irish spectrum.

    What have we today? Blabbering mouth pieces stationed at talking shops across the country preaching about ethics and principles from a pulpit.

    A few good men deservedly ordained for the right reasons but drowned out by utter corruption, secrecy, deception and internally flawed collar wearing disgraces for colleagues.

    This Parish of which I belong in particular is nothing short of a dumping ground for incapable liabilities that have offended, disenchanted, disregarded and have been disrespectful to the punters of this Parish.

    Oh we don't read Buckley's blog they say convincingly - oh indeed you do read it - ordained lads and men alike.

    Indeed you do (Just as you are now)



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    1. Do you live in Clogherhead then or another part of Co. Louth. I just wondered when you mentioned ‘dumping ground’.

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  7. Ah Pat leave the lad alone, you've no evidence against him.

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    1. And that photo of him on a gay dating app isn't evidence? You're a little too forgiving, aren't you? And like most such people, deeply dishonest because you're afraid of the world as it actually is and reinvent it in your silly, childish heads.

      Mr Jones didn't deny any of the accusations against him; nor did Mr Ray Browne. Says a great deal doesn't it? But not to you, of course...in your fantasy world, where everyone is good, really, and no one is actually bad.😆

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    2. Magna Dear! are you loosing the place again. It is Father Jones and Bishop Browne.
      And by the way its "Santo Roberto Bellarmino" Great Saint and Doctor of The Church.

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    3. Produce any evidence that you have Magna.

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    4. Big B! You're off on one of your customary flights of fancy, aren't you?

      Enjoy the trip, however silly.😆

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    5. Not At all Magna Dear! I could tell a mile off that Anonymous at 20:32 was you I could sense it!

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    6. No Magna Dear! if there is anyone "tripping" its you!

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  8. Fr. Jones has been through a lot. I, among others, have been too judgmental and before God himself I admit my guilt in this regard.I believe that we must now show our support toward Fr. Jones and wish him well. I personally wish him well and genuinely have always remembered him in my prayers daily. 'You are a priest forever'. Let us pray for Fr.Jones and pray his ministry is fruitful as he leads the faithful home toward almighty God. Fr Jones, may our Lady Protect you.

    C.M.H

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    1. Interesting Matt you now take this view on Jones.
      Might that be because he has now joined the club of what has been called the 'ontologically changed'?
      Some might say he's now more challenged than changed, and for my part the 'leopards and spots' analogy springs to mind.
      But we'll see, ....eventually.

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    2. Wow! The silly season has arrived early...and its herald is C. Heartburn.😆

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  9. The large Italian priest (in the cloak, soutane and biretta) didn't even have the biretta on the right way around. The side with no fin should be to the left.

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    1. Yes, another fatheaded 'traddie', ignorant of millinery protocol.

      Mr Jones is in excellent company there. A portent of things to come?

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    2. But sure they drive on the other side of the road in Italy.

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    3. Was that the day's most important detail .. the angle of somebody's hat!

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    4. 09.58: Miss Carta, stop being petty and jealous. How you'd wish you had the moment of glory which FR. JONES had but sadly, you were REJECTED. And your hurt has smashed any decency or humanity in you. Sad, but you are constantly in our prayers.

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    5. And they eat WAY too much pasta! 😆

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    6. @10:28

      ... and bat for the other side too by the looks of it.

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    7. 10:54 'Moment of glory'?? Hah! Hah! Hah!😅

      Yeah, it's right up there with other 'monents of glory', like Judas' kissing Jesus in Gethsemane, Peter's thrice denial of Christ in the courtyard of Caiaphas's house, and the election of a former Nazi as pope.

      Yes, moments of glory indeed. Hah! Hah! Hah!😆

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  10. Which Irish bishop has been out in Nigeria ordaining priests recently? Would he be trying to impress a certain Nigerian Nuncio. Has Amy not got enough problems in Armagh without running around in Nigeria. A total and utter joke.

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  11. Today’s announcements will address many issues. Hail, thou ever blessed morn! The faithful, from Dolphin’s Barn to Dromore, from Ballymena to Belleek, shall make their way towards Churches. Te Deums will be sung up and down the land. Steeple bells shall be swungen. And I-o I-o I-on by priests and people sungen.

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    1. Trying a little too hard to be cleverly witty there.

      Less is more.😆

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    2. Meeeooow MC. Lol

      Being about as funny as a motorway pile up yourself, Miss Carta, cleverness and wittiness are things about which we need not take advice on from you.

      Have you not been transported off to the Silent Daughters yet? Lol

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  12. Embargo placed on Clogher clergy until 11am

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  13. Timbo for Clogher, pushed forward by Trainor

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    1. Vatican Bishop appointments are out for today and there is NO appointments mentioned for Ireland

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    2. "Trainor" - - - Should that be "Treanor" in this instance

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    3. Your dead right their my old mucker. Your very right. I no its not easy to get this spellin rite. Your quite write to Point that all out their. You no whatta mean like,

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  14. How are ye girls? (Brendan)

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  15. A shitgun ordination more like.

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  16. PRESS RELEASE:

    Mgr Timothy Bartlett has been appointed by the Holy Father as auxiliary bishop to the Archbishop of Armagh and Coadjutor with right of succession to the Archbishop of Dublin.

    Speaking at a press conference in Ara Coeli, Mgr Bartlett said that he was humbled by the appointments and deeply touched at the confidence placed in him by the Holy Father.

    Referring to the unusual circumstances of being both auxiliary and coadjutor in two different dioceses, he said, “sure the couple of years in Armagh will give Archbishop Éamon a wee hand until Archbishop Diarmuid comes to his well-earned retirement”.

    “The experience of being auxiliary in Armagh will break me in and I’ll be raring to go to take over Dublin in a few years”.

    Bishop/Archbishop-elect Bartlett commiserated with the priests and people of Clogher diocese who thought they were getting him - also the priests and lay faithful of Cork and Ross who also thought they might get him. Also Clonfert. And Dromore too.

    Mgr Bartlett asked for everyone’s prayers and said he would “gladly cheer for Armagh” even though he “comes from Antrim”, until he goes to Dublin and then he will “cheer for Dublin”, even though he will “still come from Antrim”.

    REACTIONS:

    Bishop Noel Treanor - “a day of mixed emotions. A proud day for Mgr Tim’s family and friends. Also for the presbyterate of Down and Connor”.

    “Tinged with some sadness and regret though”, Bishop Treanor continued. “I had hoped for Mgr Tim as an auxiliary here in his native diocese but, Helas, it wasn’t meant to be. The Lord’s ways are not our ways. “Ours is not to reason why. Ours is but to do and die”.

    “We don’t begrudge him to Armagh and Dublin. We realise his talents are such that one diocese wouldn’t do his abilities justice. Nevertheless, we can’t but feel some grief at what could and might have been. We wish him well and God speed”, said Bishop Treanor.

    Archbishop Éamon Martin: “Armagh is thrilled and I will be glad and forever grateful, of Mgr Bartlett’s expert help and advice for the few years that’s in it, before he heads down the road to Dublin”.

    The Archbishop continued, “As the song says, ‘if your name is Timothy or Pat, as long as you come from Ireland, there’s a welcome on the mat’. So Timothy does in fact come from Ireland and so there’ll defo be a welcome on the mat in Armagh”.

    Archbishop Diarmuid Martin: “I will rest easy in my bed for the next couple of years, before I lay this heavy burden of Dublin down, secure in the knowledge that such an able and gifted successor is coming right up behind me”.

    ENDS.

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  17. 12.57 Don’t give up your day job

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    1. 13:54 if you smiled your aul face would crack! Rofl

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  18. I think there is an error in this press statement as Father Bartlett has never been a Monsignor.

    When was the press release as it is not on any Diocesan web sites or the Bishops Conference.

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    1. Upon becoming Archbishop/Bishop-elect, Fr Bartlett automatically becomes “Monsignor”. ;-)

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  19. Pat the press release is FAKE and making a clown of you.

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    1. Of course it is :-)

      Someone having fun in the sun.

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    2. Well done 12:57 - Giving us all a good laugh! :-)

      14:20 & 14:26 - some people are not the brightest. Good grief!

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    3. Last Laugh will be when Father Bartlett gets his own Diocese and possibly this Year.
      He has and still is doing a Great job for the WDOF and certainly showing he is well able.
      Must be short of stuff at the blog when making up a press release when we are still waiting in this Lawyers letter that was to be published. LOL

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    4. The “last laugh” will be on him at the end of the day whether or not he becomes a bishop. If he does, it will be by his own manufacturing - nothing to do with God - for he has dodged serving God and pleased himself since he was ordained.

      And as for you,15:16, laughs are on you too because obviously you are barely literate, not particularly bright and very easily impressed.

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    5. 14:20, 14:26 & 15:16 - lack of a sense of humour is an indication of stupidity.
      Lol

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    6. 15:16, “gets his own diocese” - that just about sums it up.

      Your turn of phrase betrays a completely askew theology of Christian ministry and service:

      “getting his own a diocese” as a “reward”;

      “getting his own diocese”, at last, after a lifetime to date of plotting and planning and scheming;

      “getting his own diocese” after years of kissing the right asses;

      “getting his own diocese” at long last after his PR stunts for the disastrous child-abuser enabler, “wounded healer” Brady;

      “getting his own diocese” because it’s what he’s always wanted and desired.

      The “last laugh” eh?

      A church that promotes ass-kissers and parish-dodgers?

      A church that ordains men who are steeped in scandal?

      A church where the formation of priests is in the pits?

      A church where a senior prelate is paying a retainer to Horny Andy to keep him quiet?

      Do you want me to go on? It’s a cause for weeping, daughter. There’ll be no “last laugh”.

      You’re in the WMOF office aren’t you? A satirical press release poking fun at Bartlett’s naked ambitions is the least of your, his, their and our worries, my dear.

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    7. What a marvellous post, 17:27!

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    8. Yes. Excellent. Sums it all up really well. Congrats.

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    9. 17.27: Are you trying to be intelligent? Firstly, you are not careful in your grammar: your articulation is awful. Secondly, T. Bartlett is excellent and his enemies are full of jealousy. Unnecessary and infantile. Get over your begrudgery.

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    10. Satire is the perfectly understandable response to the utter craziness that currently prevails in the Irish Church!

      Timothy Bartlett, at long last, getting “his very own diocese” (it’s all mine mine mine!) to play with, has to be the Irish ecclesial event of the 21st century thus far!

      Ah jayzus!

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  20. All that’s been said about this Ordination has already been said 10 times before on this blog. Is there really anymore to be said about it or can be said about it.

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    1. 15.43 perhaps there is... what will the rewards be for all involved should the warnings turn out to be justified in the next few years? or... what is the delay in the ordinations of the other seminarians who had a similar cloud hanging over them?

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  21. Amen to that @ 15.43

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  22. Wee Timmy Bartlett has ambition oozing out of his pores! He suffers from 'small man syndrome' which makes him rather over-bearing. He is however doing a good job for the WMF. If administrative ability was the essential quality of a bishop he would be a cert, alas he lacks most of the other required attributes......but then so do 90% of the hierarchy! Dublin look out!!

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  23. 16.45: That old phrase "small man syndrome" does not apply to T. Bartlett. He has a natural ability to be very competent and clever. There are many who are jealous of his abilities. I think he's doing wonderful work for WMF and that anniys his critics. Critics - go and take a jump.

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    1. Bartlett is useless. His appointment as a bishop would be a scandal.

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    2. Buckley at 17.56: Useless in your view but no one lives up to your perfect ideals - hmm, hmm, hmm. Stories can be told about you Pat to consign you to the "useless" bin. Have you a good word to say about any (Catholic) Priest apart from the man you see in the mirror? You put misery on people with your attitude.

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    3. In the past few days I praised the PP of Ahoghill in Antrim.

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    4. Really?! Big deal..

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  24. 1.Any priest who “wants” to be a bishop is barking mad.

    2. Timothy Bartlett desperately wants to be a bishop!

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    1. There must be some attraction... the lace, perhaps?

      https://www.clergyapparel.com/images/bishopsattire/bishops_ChoirMozz.jpg

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    2. Exactly 20:55. Timo has the full wardrobe since 3rd Divinity and there’s no fear he will put on the biretta with the Pom Pom facing the wrong direction! :-D

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  25. 17:48 must be hitching his cart to wee Timmy's star, sounds like the sole member of his fan club! Timmy is singularly disliked by fellow clerg which is usually indicative of something!

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    1. 18.36: Re: My comment at 17.48: I give credit where it's deserved, in this instance, T. Bartlett and his organising abilities for WMOF. I don't belobg to a northern Diocese. And I have no interest in or play Church politics. I do what's given me to do but I have little time for the begrudgers and for colleagues who tear other colleagues apart publicly. Always a touch of jealousy and resentment! And I'm quite certain that those priests who are against T. Bartlett smile in his presence!

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  26. Has anyone got any positive experiences of permanent Deacons. I noted someone on yesterday’s blog saying a new Permanent deacon in Enniskillen tried to upstage a newly ordained priest on the altar. I know someone who is interested in applying but I don’t think he is suitable. He sees it as a career move not a vocation, he said he would love to do baptisms, weddings and funerals. The other reason I think he’s unsuitable is that he can’t wait to wear a clerical collar.

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    1. You've got it down to a t. This "vocation" to the permanent diaconate was in abeyance until the late twentieth century and we seemed to get by. Most PDs wouldn't have heard of it until they suddenly felt the call.

      It's a hyper-clericalist way of upgrading selected parish layman of the schoolteacher type.

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    2. I have extensive experience of permanent deacons in England.
      On the whole, they are hard-working, unassuming in manner,
      highly approachable, and a great benefit to the priests and
      people of the parishes in which they serve. In particular, their
      celebration of weddings and funerals without Mass (which if
      often appropriate where the parties/deceased/family are not
      churchgoers) takes quite a load off the parish priest’s shoulders.
      No doubt there are unsuitable deacons and aspirants, but that
      does not detract from a generally positive experience.

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    3. That's the theory anyway...

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    4. Thank you 19:49. I think in Ireland, even among the lapsed, is that there should be a Mass at weddings and funerals.

      What training do these men get? Is it as thorough and as lengthy as that of a priest and if not why not, especially as PDs are seen by many as virtually a priest.

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    5. Three years study but part time with some residential weekends included. They think they are experts at the end of that,

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    6. As a Permanent Dean in Ireland, I find the comments and some posts very sad and others confusing due to lack of knowledge.

      The roll of the Deacon is biblically based, Acts 6:1-8 and the 'Choosing of the Seven'. we all celebrate St. Steven's Day (1st Deacon and Martyr) St Lawrence and St Francis of Assisi and let us not forget our Patron Saint Patrick who's father was also a deacon. I can safely say that we ALL cross over working sectors from white collar to blue collar. Any man who is invited to enter on to formation and going through a year of decrement with in a short time his true motives will soon come to the forefront. The four years of study and formation should be seen and actively promoted as a time of decrement right up to the day of ordination. Any man who speaks about his ordination and as if he is already there during the 4 year period alarm bells should and will start to ring very loudly!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Any Deacon who feels, OR acts as if they are a step up from lay people has complete missed understood his ministry and that of a Deacon. As Deacons and lay people alike, we ALL should act and serve in 'persona Christi servi', the 'person of Christ the servant'. The issue of the collar crops up time and time again. If a Deacon wears the collar, he should ONLY wear it a s true sign that it show that he wears it as a beacon light and sign of a servant who respect those he ministers too and NOT wearing the collar to gain respect, those days have long gone.

      The Deacon has three main rolls within the church 1. Word, 2. Servant at the Altar and 3. Charity. All though most of us minister on a part-time basis, the ministry of Deacon is a full-time commitment in our day to day life and if married our first vocation is to Family, secondly Work to support our family and thirdly our ministry of Deacon.

      Any Deacon who seems to be upstaging a newly ordained priest, give BOTH of them time and space as they are both NEWLY ordained and still finding their feet!

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  27. Difficult there. Order people don't recognize them as clerical if they don't wear the collar, espc for home visits and others seeing them wear the collar think they are just trying to be recognized. The thing is that they are voluntary, not paid. But like every human being, some are bombscares, just waiting to explode.

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  28. They seem to be ex Teachers, business people, JP’s, Solicitors and the like. They see it as another form of authority figure that they have always been and left.

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  29. I know a PP who is constantly dictated to by his permanent deacon after he got his feet under the table. He has become an expert canon lawyer after studying it for 5mins and quotes different canons to the PP on a regular basis. Nightmare.

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    1. Ha ha! Very good.. That should be keep them on their toes!

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  30. Permanent deacons see themselves as one step up from mere lay people.

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    1. Wrong. Permanent Deacons see themselves as servants, but they are walked on by clergy and laity who forget that they have jobs and families who must come first. Although some want to be seen at all liturgies, vainglory.

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    2. 21.21 The reality is that many PP’s inherit permanent Deacons from predecessors and simply don’t want them. Having families and jobs is not the issue and it’s irrelevant if you are not wanted.

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  31. Is there any hope for a Catholic lad like me who feels that God may be calling him to a life of service in his Church?

    Is this what could become of me if I enter Maynooth for training and discernment? I am starting to reconsiderealise things.

    I wouldn't say I'm good, clerical or even worthy- just want to discern God's call.

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    1. Take time and plenty of advice.

      God will give you a sign.

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    2. @21:05, I’m in the exact same situation.

      Thanks Pat for the words of encouragement. Very comforting. Deep down though, would you endorse a young man joining the Church’s priesthood?

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    3. Sean Jones has been assigned to St. John's Church Tralee

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  32. Hi Brendan.

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  33. Timmo has parish dodged all his priestly life - not bishop material end of

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    1. Three new auxiliary bishops have been appointed to Chicago. It has been said of them:

      "All three bishops-elect have been committed and highly effective spiritual fathers and community leaders in their parishes and wider ministries. They have had significant influence thoughout the Archdiocese in both the Hispanic and Anglo communities, in prison outreach, seminary formation, and diocesan administration. It would be difficult to find three priests whose combined service to the Church spans a more diverse range of ministry”.

      Nothing remotely like the above could be said of Timo who has pleased himself since he was ordained and whose boat really came in when he was able to make himself indispensable to the walking disaster aka the so-called “wounded healer”.

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    2. If Fr Bartlett provokes so much envy he must be doing something right.

      There's more than one way to be a priest. Being a curate in a small country parish does not exhaust the options.

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    3. @23:47 howiya Timmy! Lol

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    4. 23:47, if you consider “doing something right” as grasping ambition, feathering your own nest, studiously avoiding pastoral responsibilities, furiously climbing the clerical ladder, ingratiating yourself with those who will be useful to your clerical “career”, self-promotion and selfish interest, being conniving, mischievous and cunning, being unable to hold his own water in the gossip department, brown-nosing the big wigs and a career thus far of self-indulgence, then yes.

      There may indeed be more than one way to be a priest - but all the ways of being a priest fundamentally involve selfless service of others not self-seeking and careerism.

      It is those aspects of Bartlett that cause disquiet and seeing a dysfunctional hierarchy perpetuate itself by gratifying his selfish desires and pandering to his whims.

      Had Bartlett shown any real pastoral aptitude over the years priests would have been rooting for his appointment as a bishop. As it is, his rise is entirely self-manufactured and for his own aggrandisement.

      The dim wits in the hierarchy and nunciature, currently, are happy to indulge Bartlett and reward him for his faithful service to “the company”. They’re welcome to him and he to them.

      At the end of the day, the role of bishop is disgraced and discredited today precisely because of game-playing men like Bartlett. They no longer have the power and prestige they once enjoyed. And both priests and people are not so reticent about giving them their pedigree either.

      So Timo, what shall it profit a man if he gain his very own diocese but suffer the loss of his soul?

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  34. Whoever said yesterday that there would be a new bishop announcement - either Armagh auxillary or Clogher needs to change their source as there was no announcement that I can find

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  35. Brendan lets meet up in the cruising area of Boiler House, say in one hr.

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  36. Well Sean Jones is ordained. The protests did not have the desired effect. There were threats of photos and other information being made public... it is time to either;
    A) make good on the threats, or
    B) silently wait to see if he messes up (again?).

    To continue to cast shadows is no longer an honourable option. It is time to let him get on with his life - but if he messes up by all means he should again become a topic of public conversation. Fair is fair, everyone deserves a chance to live peacefully.

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    1. Agreed. We're getting bored with it anyway, time for a new scandal, +Pat.

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    2. Thank you for agreeing with me but please do not put words in my mouth by using the 'we' word. I am bot bored with it. In fact I think it interesting but I also recognise the need not to take a matter of public interest and turn it into idle gossip.

      The reasoning for my position is to avoid further damaging a human being. He ought to be allowed enough space to do what he will. If that warrants further blogging so be it, but to continue beating drumms over past transgressions will change nothing but damage him.

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  37. Well at the end of the day he’s a human being who deserves dignity. He didn’t murder anyone, con people or perform illegal marriages. So good luck to him

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