Sunday 12 August 2018

CALL FOR THREE CARDINALS TO BE REMOVED FROM WMOF

Survivors claim each has questions to answer about known clerical child abusers
Patsy McGarry IRISH TIMES
     
A group representing clerical child sex survivors worldwide has written an open letter to Catholic Archbishop of Dublin Diarmuid Martin seeking the removal of three cardinals from World Meeting of Families (WMOF) events in Dublin later this month.

Archbishop Martin is chairing the WMOF board.



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Ending Clergy Abuse (ECA) represents survivors in 15 countries and aims to hold the Vatican to account over clerical abuse of minors.


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It says the three cardinals – Cardinal Kevin Farrell, prefect at the Vatican’s Dicastery for Laity, Family and Life which has overall responsibility for the World Meeting of Families, Cardinal Γ“scar Maradiaga of Honduras and a member of Pope Francis’s Council of Cardinals, and Archbishop of Washington Cardinal Donald Wuerl should be “investigated, not honoured”.


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The organisation claims they have covered up for clergy who abused minors, something denied by the three cardinals.


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“Any bishop who covers up for another bishop should not be trusted to safeguard Catholic families, much less preach to the world about the sacred and intrinsic dignity and meaning of family life. We are deeply troubled that three cardinals who may have protected abusive brother bishops are playing significant roles at the World Meeting of Families,” it said.

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They noted how recently former US cardinal Theodore McCarrick in the US was removed from ministry following accusations that he had sexually abused minors as well as seminarians and young priests.
Cardinal Wuerl succeeded McCarrick as Archbishop of Washington in 2006 “around the time New Jersey dioceses were settling with McCarrick’s victims.”
Last month it emerged that Cardinal Maradiaga’s close associate and auxiliary bishop in Honduras, Bishop Juan Jose Pineda, was removed because of sexually abusing seminarians.
Cardinal Farrell was consecrated Auxiliary Bishop of Washington in 2002 by then Archbishop McCarrick and served as vicar general.
“I was shocked, overwhelmed; I never heard any of this before in the six years I was there with him,” Cardinal Farrell said last month, referring to former Cardinal McCarrick and the allegations against him. He had “no indication, none whatsoever”.
From Drimnagh in Dublin, Cardinal Farrell and his brother Bishop Brian Farrell, secretary of the Vatican’s Council for Promoting Christian Unity, began their clerical careers as members of the controversial Legionaries of Christ.
Bishop Farrell remains a member while Cardinal Farrell left them in 1981.
Serial sex abuser
Legionaries of Christ founder Fr Marcial Maciel, who died in 2008, was exposed as a serial sex abuser of boys and young men and father of six children by multiple women and was removed from ministry in 2006 by Pope Benedict XVI.
In 2016, when asked by The Irish Times what he had known about Fr Maciel’s activities as a sexual predator, Cardinal Farrell said: “I never knew anything back then. I worked in Monterrey, and maybe I would have met Maciel once or twice, but I never suspected anything . . . I left the Legionaries because I had intellectual differences with them.”
The survivors want the pope to acknowledge and meet publicly with survivor leaders of Irelandduring his visit and to announce that the next WMOF will be dedicated to the impact and prevention of sexual violence, particularly clergy sexual violence, on families.

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Dublin priest stands aside for investigation

A spokesman said the fact that Fr Herren has stood aside is no indication of the truth or otherwise of the allegations against him
A parish priest in south Dublin has stood aside from his duties while historical allegations are investigated.

A spokesman for Archbishop Diarmuid Martin told parishioners at masses in Foxrock this morning that the accusation against Father Frank Herren relates to several decades ago and there is no connection with his work in Foxrock.

The spokesman said the fact that Fr Herren has stood aside is no indication of the truth or otherwise of the allegations against him.

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TOM DENNIHAN - BISHOP ELECT OF MEATH
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KEVIN MC ELROY - EX SEMINARIAN OF DOWN AND CONNOR



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Richard Sipe’s Letter to Bishop Robert McElroy
MC ELROY

A.W.Richard Sipe

2825 Ridgegate Row /La Jolla /CA 92037

July 28,2016

Bishop McElroy:

I received your note postmarked July 19.

It was clear to me during our last meeting in your office, although cordial,

that you had no interest in any further personal contact. It was only after

that I sent you a letter copied to my contacts in DC and Rome.

The new Nuncio, Archbishop Pierre, told my colleague he is interested in

the care of and reaction to victims of clergy assault: and I am assured that

the Papal Commission for the Prevention of Abuse is also dedicated to this

aspect of the crisis.
I will as I was asked, put my observations in the form of a report. Your
office made it clear that you have no time in your schedule either now or “in
the foreseeable future” to have the meeting that they suggested.
Bishop, I have been at the study and research of the problem of clergy
abuse since 1960. In 1986 I wrote to Archbishop Daniel Pilarczyk,
president of the USCCB at the time, with my preliminary conclusions. His
response was negligible, although he passed the substance onto the
USCCB office who gave my figures to a NEWSWEEK reporter.
In 1990 before my study A Secret World; Sexuality and the Search for
Celibacy was published I agreed to meet with the entire staff at their DC
offices.
Institutional resistance is understandable, if surprising to me. So much of
my work has been validated and in many quarters now taken for granted.
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The number of priests and bishops having sex with minors was not the
primary or central focus of the study. But my calculation of 6% (six percent)
clergy abusers as a base line has held up very well. [ the most recent
validation is between 6 ½ and 9% in the U.S. Some dioceses have
registered 23%. Some religious houses have recorded 25%.]
Sexual violation within the RC clergy is systemic. I say that on the basis of
observation and scientific conclusion. And I say that with empathy and
concern.
Now that aspect of the sexual crisis is well known around the world. The
crisis behind the scandal will be the next phase of reality with which to
come to terms: Namely: the broad range and frequency of sexual behaviors
registered in the clerical system. “At any one time no more than 50% of
priests are practicing celibacy.”
That was the hypothesis and thrust of A Secret World (1990) and repeated
in Celibacy in Crisis (2003)
In May 1993 at the Vatican International Conference on Celibacy in Rome
Cardinal Jose Sanchez then Chairman of the Dicastery on Clergy fielded
questions about my study and conclusions and a similar sociological
statistical report by Fr. Victor Kotze of South Africa. Father Kotze concluded
that in any three-year period only 45% of priests were practicing celibacy.
When asked directly by reporter Mark Dowd, and a reporter recording for
the BBC TV what the Cardinal thought of those studies he said, “I have no
reason to doubt the accuracy of those figures”.
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During the first National Survivors Conference in Chicago, October 1992, I
addressed the group with these words: “The crisis we are facing today—
sexual abuse of minors by Catholic clergy—is the tip of an iceberg. And if
we follow it to its foundations it will lead to the highest corridors of the
Vatican.”
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Sooner or later it will become broadly obvious that there is a systemic
connection between the sexual activity by, among and between clerics in
positions of authority and control, and the abuse of children.
When men in authority—cardinals, bishops, rectors, abbots, confessors,
professors—are having or have had an unacknowledged-secret-active-sexlife
under the guise of celibacy an atmosphere of tolerance of behaviors
within the system is made operative.
Many of the sexual patterns are set up during seminary years or in early
years after ordination when sexual experimentation is initiated or sustained.
The 2009 Vatican Report (in English) on American seminaries invented a
new term—transitional homosexuality. I believe this is due to the
awareness of the frequent activity in the homosocial structure of seminary
and religious life.
I was on the staff of three major seminaries, one Pontifical, from 1967 to
1984. I served as a consultant for seminaries from 1966 to 1996. That gave
me a broad contact with several other seminaries, their Rectors and staffs.
I was aware, from information shared by their partners, that a number of
rectors (at least three) and also some staff members, were having periodic
sex with students.
At one seminary fully one-fourth of the professors had ongoing sexual
contacts with men or women in more or less consensual arrangements.
It is credibly established that thirty percent (30%) of U.S. bishops have a
homosexual orientation. This is not a condemnation nor an allegation of
malfeasance. The list of homosexual Popes and saints is long and
illustrious. [This is obviously false.  Homosexuality, even the inclination, is diametrically opposed to sanctity in every sense. -AB]
A serious conflict arises when bishops who have had or are having sexually
active lives with men or women defend their behavior with denial, cover up,
and public pronouncements against those same behaviors in others.
Their own behavior threatens scandal of exposure when they try to curtail
or discipline other clerics about their behavior even when it is criminal as in
the case with rape and abuse of minors, rape, or power plays against the
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vulnerable. (Archbishops Harry Flynn, Eugene Marino, Robert Sanchez,
Manuel Moreno, Francis Green, etc.)
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I will record instances that demonstrate the systemic dynamic that forms
and fosters sexual violations among the clerical culture. All of this
information is culled from records (civil or church). In addition, I have 50
years’ participation or contact with the clerical culture of the RCC.
I have reviewed several hundred thousands of pages of records of clerical
sexual activity and been involved as a consultant or expert witness in 250
civil legal actions against clergy offenders.
None of the following information is secret. It is reviewed here in an effort to
demonstrate how the sexual system works in the clerical culture.
Archbishop John Neinstedt (1947—) I reviewed the 138-page report of
the Ramsay County MN Attorney’s report on the sexual activity of
Neinstedt.
I have interviewed priests from the Detroit Archdiocese who had personal
contact there with Neinstedt and had first-hand knowledge of his presence
at gay bars. The affidavits in the report speak for themselves.
Bishop Thomas Lyons (1923-88) priest of Baltimore and auxiliary bishop
of Washington, D.C. I have personally interviewed adult men who claim that
they were sexually abused by Lyons when he was a priest in Baltimore and
a monsignor and pastor in D.C.
One of the reporters was on probation for abusing minor members of his
own family. He claimed that Lyons abused him from the time he was seven
to seventeen years old. Also Lyons himself said that this happened to him
(by a priest) when he was growing up and that “it was natural.”
One important element in this behavior is the three generational pattern of
sexual abuse of minors involved: Priest abuser of child who becomes a
priest and child abuser. Behavior is justified as natural. This is a pattern
seen often and termed the genealogy of clerical sexual abuse.
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Bishop Raymond J. Boland (1932-2014) was a priest and pastor also in
Washington, D.C. until 1988 when he was appointed bishop of Birmingham
AL, and subsequently, in1993 bishop of Kansas City-St. Joseph.
I was involved for several years in advocating for several victims that
Boland violated when he was a pastor. The accounts of the victims are
among the most horrendous from the point of view that exemplifies how
deeply sex even with minors is integrated within the clerical culture.
Cardinal James Hickey and bishop William Lori fought with particular fury
the allegations that ended in the suspension of several priests and a
financial settlement with some victims.
The victim quoted here from his report to the Archdiocese refused the
settlement offered by the Archdiocese. The whole process from 1994 to
2004 spanned the reigns of Hickey, Mc Carrick and Wuerl.
Fr. Frank Swift (+1974) and Fr. Aldo PetrinI (+late 1980s) were named as
abusers.
Msgr. Paul Lavin was named as an abuser of several minor victims and
was finally removed from the ministry by Cardinal McCarrick in 2002.
These D.C. priests formed a coterie of sexually active clerics from the
seminary to connections with officials in Vatican offices.
Some of the victims were assaulted together. Two victims refused financial
settlements. Others were constricted by confidentiality clauses.
This tangle of clerical sexual abusers demonstrates the operation that
infests the systemic operation of sexual activity from top to bottom.
Many more facts about this group are on record.
Following are quotes from the reports in files submitted to the offices of the
D.C. Archbishops and their lawyers:
A 10-year-old boy at Mount Calvary Catholic Church in Forestville, MD in
1967 was sodomized by Fr. Raymond J. Boland and then deacon Paul
Levin.
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The boy asked Boland why they were doing this and he responded, “God
makes special boys and girls for pleasure, and you are certainly one of
them.” When he saw the erect penises of his abusers he was told, “See
what you have done”.
They said they were going to make him a “big boy” and show him how
much God loved him. And breathlessly told him that it was, “the ultimate
sign of love when a man ‘came’ with a special boy; that gave him, “the seed
of life”.
Lavin said, “when I was 12-years-old that I would be taken on retreats were
spiritual bonding between older men and younger boys took place.”
They assured him the pain would go away, gave warnings to keep secret
and delivered threats of dire consequences if he told anyone. (He did tell
his mother who slapped him and told him never to talk that way about a
priest or nun.)
He made a first suicide attempt with aspirin.
Three weeks after the assault by Boland this boy contacted a priest in his
home parish—Fr. Perkinson. (who was ultimately a patient at St. Luke’s
Institute Suitland, MD.)
When he told the priest his name Fr. Perkinson said, “Oh, you’re the
special little boy Fr. Boland told me about.” He said he had been in the
military and “sex between two guys was normal”.
The priest then proceeded to expose his penis and forced it into the boy’s
mouth. “He told me to lick it like a popsicle and swallow the precious gift he
was going to give me.” He added later how special a boy I was and
encouraged me to swallow the semen that was “the seed of Christ and the
source of all life-—and a sin” to refuse. “God loves you and so do I.”
[This victim spent several years in the major seminary where he
experienced and recorded the sexual connections between seminary,
parish priests, chancery and Rome. The string of abusers was reported to
Cardinal Hickey. Some were retired or left the area.]
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While this assault was in progress the pastor opened the door, simply
looked and closed it. (this behavior by other priests is reported in other
instances—e.g. Gaboury, litigated in Fall River, MA; in a case litigated in
D.C. the pastor seeing the boy bound and being sodomized simply said,
“you will have to repair that wall”. (The victim had punched a hole in the
wall while bound and thrashing around.)
Boland’s victim made a second suicidal attempt and was treated in a
hospital.
This is by no means the most horrendous of the records I have reviewed,
but its elements of seduction, assault, sexualizing spirituality, and selfjustification
under a “celibate” mantle and cover up are paradigmatic of a
system of behaviors in the Catholic clerical culture.
The record of one priest abuser relates how he anointed the foreheads of
his boy victims with his semen.
Another priest who was having sex with a13-yer-old of girl touched her
genitals with what he said was a consecrated host to show her “how much
God loves you”.
The credibility of the documents is unquestionable and recorded in church
and legal documents. The reporter in Boland’s case is a respected
professor.
Cardinal Theodore McCarrick has been reported by numerous
seminarians and priests of sexual advances and activity. A settlement with
one priest was effected by Stephen Rubino, Esq.
In that record the operation of McCarrick in sexual activity with three priests
is described. Correspondence from “Uncle Ted” as he asked to be called, is
included. One of the principals is now a lawyer who left the priesthood, two
men remain in the priesthood, but refuse to speak publicly despite the fact
that the settlement document is open. One priest was told by the chancery
office, “if you speak with the press we will crush you”.
Priests or seminarians who speak up about a sexually active superior are
threatened with the loss of everything—employment, status, etc. Those
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who report are greeted with disbelief or even derision if they know but were
not personally involved. If they were a partner in the sexual activity and
“come out” they become a pariah and labeled a traitor.
I have interviewed twelve seminarians and priests who attest to
propositions, harassment, or sex with McCarrick, who has stated, “I do not
like to sleep alone”.
One priest incardinated in McCarrick’s Archdiocese of Newark was taken to
bed for sex and was told, “this is how priests do it in the U.S.”. None so far
has found the ability to speak openly at the risk of reputation and
retaliation.
The system protects its impenetrability with intimidation, secrecy and
threat. Clergy and laity are complicit.
Abbot John Eidenschink, O.S.B. (1914-2004) I knew John Eidenschink
from the time I was a student in Prep school (1946) until the time of his
death. He served me as a theology professor, confessor for six years,
superior, and traveling companion in Europe (summer 1956), and principal
speaker at my first mass in 1959. I served with him as an assistant master
of ceremonies.
It was only in 1970 that monks and former monks came forward to tell me
about how Fr. John, under the guise of offering instructions how to make
them more comfortable with their body, and that during spiritual guidance,
had them stretch out nude on his bed while he touched them; he
penetrated some.
At least two of these men sought legal advice and received substantial
financial settlements from the abbey. At least five men reported this
behavior. Others who remained in the monastery did not publicize their
encounters.
I have heard this manner and mode of relationship described in other
religious houses and seminaries.
Like many other members of dioceses and religious communities I was
blind to these and other sexual activities among the group. This is not an
excuse. Lack of vigilance, adequate sexual education and simple ignorance
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contributed to the blindness instilled by institutional absorption and
dependency.
On record maintained by a former victim of the system recorded sixty
members of the St. John’s community who were sexual violators and 260
“known victims”. (Patrick Marker [Behindthepinecurtin.com])
John Eidenschink was a prominent and productive member of the
community. He influenced every segment of this large institution. His
sexual conditioning was formed and fostered in the two years of his
novitiate under the tutelage of Fr. Basil Stegmann, O.S.B. who repeatedly
took novice John on his lap while instructing him.
John was an orphan and lived with relatives near the campus of the abbey.
His sexual identity and his remarkable talents were conditioned and
fostered by the total institution. The homosocial structure of the abbey and
schools influenced his adjustment.
The homoerotic component in Roman Catholic theology and in the social
construct of training and in the power associations fosters sexual
expression as “natural” in ordinary male relationships. This is in direct
contradiction to the official teaching that homosexuality is “unnatural” and
“intrinsically disordered”.
I observed similar constructs in Vatican contacts with confreres when I was
a student in Rome. I could only register facts that I could not put together at
the time.
Students with some ambition would make contact with secretaries of
various Vatican officials, usually a Monsignore. This could assure them an
invitation to “tea” or some reception. Those who made the cut had social
access to a certain group of minor officials with prospects of wider and
more exalted contacts. (The book I Millinari written by 5 Vatican officials
also records variations on this pattern.)
Sexual liaisons become common for men conditioned to homosexually in
the system when women become available for social contact usually after
ordination. The Vatican term “transitional homosexuality” (2009) I
believe is based on the observation that a portion of priests pass through a
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phase of sexual bonding with men (or even boys) before setting into
heterosexual behaviors.
Bishop Robert H. Brom: I have talked with the man who made allegations
of misconduct against Brom and with whom he made a $120,000
settlement. The history is well recorded by several responsible reporters.
(http://www.awrsipe.com/brom/bishop_brom.htm)
Significant here is the operation of the National Conference of Bishops who
in their 2002 Dallas Charter made provision for “zero tolerance” of clergy
abusing minors but neglected to address violations by bishops. Instead
they appointed Brom, when allegations were known, to make “Fraternal
Correction” to other bishops accused.
This type of operation is typical of the pattern of cover up from the top of
the institution. (Reflected in the destruction of documents by the Papal
Nuncio in the Neinstedt case. Cf. Documentation provided by the Ramsey
County District Attorney)
Cardinal Roger Mahony. I have served as an expert witness in a sufficient
number of abuse cases in the LA Archdiocese to conclude it is not
outlandish to ask if Cardinal Roger Mahony of Los Angeles is a criminal for
“knowingly endangering the children he was supposed to defend.”
There is ample evidence already in the public forum that Mahony has
known of priests who abused minors, reassigned them and allowed them to
minister only to abuse other minors. He has not informed parishioners or
even parish staffs, that the priests he was assigning had a record of abuse.
Mahony who has a Masters in Social Work did not report known priest
abusers to social services even though he was obligated to do so by civil
law and by reason of the profession’s Code of Ethics. All of this vast
evidence is recorded in countless depositions on record from litigations1 of
abuse cases and from Mahony’s own testimony under oath.2
1 Depositions by Bishop Curry and Judge Byrne are illustrative of how priests were assigned and the
oversight board operated.
2 Mahony depositions, January 25, 2010; November 23, 2004; also Cf. Mahony trial testimony Fresno,
CA March 17, 2009.
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I received reports from two men about Mahony’s sexual life and orientation;
one a former (St. John, Camarillo) seminarian who was dying of HIV
related complications; the other a long time LA church employee. The men
were credible reporters unwilling to go public or draw on corroboration.
I have served as an expert on a number of cases of confirmed sexual
abuse by priests of the LA Archdiocese from 2002 onward. Several are
remarkable: (i.e. the case of Lopez y Lopez and the controversy between
Mahony and the Cardinal of Mexico City. One of the principals in the latter
had to be lying.)
Judge Jim Byrne touted by the cardinal as a poster boy for the integrity of
the sexual abuse review board said in deposition that in all the years he
served on the Board he “never thought” of helping the victims.
Lawyer, Larry Drivon, who has litigated many California cases of clergy
abuse stated that there was sufficient evidence to charge Mahony with
perjury after letters he signed when he was bishop of Stockton, were
produced in his 2004 deposition and showed—black on white—that he had
clear knowledge of events that he denied under oath in deposition and on
the witness stand in the 1998 trial of Fr. Oliver O’Grady.3
I attended the Nov. 2004 deposition of Mahony and know the history of the
O’Grady trial. I saw Mahony’s signed letters. As a layperson I witnessed the
cardinal lying. His lawyer claimed, as did the cardinal that “he forgot.” (in 2
depositions and on the witness stand)
Three Los Angeles Grand Juries have been impaneled over nine years to
determine the real picture of abusing priests in the Archdiocese of Los
Angeles. Their problem is not the lack of evidence, but the monumental
legal impediments and roadblocks the cardinal has sponsored to obstruct
the investigation and the release of documents needed to pinpoint facts of
the cardinal’s knowledge and involvement in complicity and obstruction.
California law does not allow Grand Jury reports to be made public unless
indictments result.
3 Don Lattin. December 11, 2004. The San Francisco Chronicle.
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Mahony claimed that communications between him and his priests have a
special privilege, not unlike that of confessional secrets. His claim was
included as the central argument advanced by his attorneys for refusing to
disclose files ordered by the courts. His arguments were rejected by the
appeal court, the California Supreme Court. Not deterred he had his
lawyers even try to have the case reversed by the United States Supreme
Court. The highest court in the land could not swallow his theory. His
obstructionism seems unbounded.
He claimed that he was a member of the therapeutic team treating priest
abusers and therefore documents involving him enjoyed a privilege of
medical confidentiality. In actuality he was never a member of any
therapeutic teams for several reasons not the least of which is the fact that
he is not qualified.
It has not yet been revealed how many millions the cardinal spent in
pursuing facetious claims. He has employed for his defense not merely
several lawyers but several law firms as well as Sitrick and Company, a
public relation firm used by Enron, the Tobacco industry and the Keating
Savings and Loan scandal of the 1980’s. Fortune magazine called the
company’s founder “one of the most accomplished practitioners of the
dark arts of public relations. The Financial Times called him, “The spin
doctor’s spin doctor.” Should any Catholic entity much less an
archdiocese take any pride in resorting to the services of such an
organization? Truth and transparency seem secondary if important at all.
These and myriad other stories are to be told from documents and records.
These records show Mahony’s, and other bishops pattern and practice that
reflect institutional defenses of its ministers’ sexual behaviors.
I will not belabor the more than 250 abuse cases of clergy abuse I have
served on as an expert witness or consultant.
I served the Attorney General of Massachusetts in the formation of their
Grand Jury investigation of clergy abuse in that State (2002). And I was an
expert witness to the first of three Grand Juries empaneled in Philadelphia
and I reviewed 135 clergy abuse files then. Since that time I have been
able to follow the working and operation of the Archdiocesan offices’
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dealing with victims of clergy abuse. That is a paradigm of the malfunction
of the American church in response to clergy.
You are well aware that your diocese has settled with many victims (144 in
2007 alone).
I have tried to help the Church understand and heal the wounds of sexual
abuse by clergy. My services have not been welcomed.
My appeal to you has been for pastoral attention to victims of abuse and
the long term consequences of that violation. This includes the effects of
suicidal attempts.
Only a bishop can minister to these wounds.
Enclosed you will find a list of bishops who have been found wanting in
their duties to the people of God.
Respectfully
A.W.Richard Sipe
August 30, 2016
(Hand Delivered)


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98 comments:

  1. When I was a seminarian Tom Deenihan tried to take a special interest in me. I resisted Tom. I very quickly found that I was not a seminarian any more "for reasons I was not entitled to know".

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  2. Is Weurl's first name Golam?

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    1. I don't think she ever did!

      She was always ready for, er, action with worldliness.

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  3. Oh look, the immaculate bride isn't wearing any knickers!

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  4. 00.31 You've named a man very easily and made serious inferences about him. Let's have your name so we can take what you say seriously. I wont be holding my breath on that one by the way as without proof we cannot believe a word you say.

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    1. Maybe it was a spiritual interest wanting to look after his soul?

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    2. Why write about a spiritual interest I. Such a way that he did. That's your problem Pat, you know full well what is being inferred and Yet you poke fun at it. No wonder why you are losing so many contributors (distinct from viewers) to this blog.

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    3. I was posing a question.

      The blog has never being busier - or more probing.

      That is your problem, is it not?

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    4. No the only problem for me as I'm sure many others is that there is still an absence of proof and facts. We are nonectge wiser from this day last week. I also think you should cease abusing people like Mulvihill to gain information. The gutter tabloids don't do as much. Do they?

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    5. If you knew Bill you would know he is no victim.

      I did spend 11 years working for the News of the World.

      I know how to tease stories out.

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    6. Anonymous at7:45

      PERVERT! you've probably stolen them, and are wearing them yourself.

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    7. 10.10: Pat, News of the World! Hardly intelligent reading. Gutter, tabloid stuff. Toilet paper if you're stuck!!

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    8. +Pat at 09:44 are you sure it was it his soul and not his hole ?

      Just thinkin like.

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    9. @12.44 What sewer did your mouth crawl out from? It's the predictable sort of comment and level of maturity we come to expect on this blog now. That comment would appeal to Pat and it's as if he wrote it.

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    10. @10:10, it seems apt that you spent so long learning your "trade" at a newspaper that failed due to its lack of journalistic ethics.

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  5. Quite a comprehensive piece by Richard Sipe. His insights and analysis are invaluable for all Church personnel. As a priest I am shocked at the facts presented. While I've been aware of some deeply unconfortable truths and realities within the Church both institutionally and at the level of personnel and experiences, it's very disturbing when you read this piece by Sipe. Each of us personally as priests must endeavour to be personally renewed through prayer and the sacraments, ensuring that we strive to stay faithful to what Christ asks of us. It's not easy in this present time to have any respect for the institutional Church with its archaic structures, disciplines, secrecy, out of touch teachings and the political power struggles that are evident among many careerists. For now all I can do is look honestly into my own heart and conscience and try as best I can to be true to the essence and idealism of priesthood as lived by Jesus. I am not looking for sympathy, but believe that priesthood is at a juncture, requiring a serious, radical overhaul in its meaning, purpose and relevance.

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    1. An excellent, honest and well reasoned comment. Thank you.

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    2. 09.38 That's music to Pats ears judging by his sickly reply.

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    3. satire
      ˈsatʌΙͺΙ™/
      noun
      the use of humour, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.

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    4. MourneManMichael13 August 2018 at 12:25

      Anon @ 09:51: Not a sickly reply. It's a succinct acknowledgement of the value of 09:38's comment.
      We can often form a fairly accurate impression of the disposition, insight and abilities of contributors from what they write.
      I'm giving yours some further thought.
      MMM

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  6. What has a wallet and Alpha Romeo to do with Diarmuid Martin?

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    1. Ask that question to Fr. Paul Taylor PP of celbridge. Dublin Priest.

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    2. Ah just tell us. Does Coddle drive an alfa romeo I thought he had a Volvo and had a driver. I only see him out in his Volvo.

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    3. Allegedly he uses an Alpha Romeo in Rome and Florence.

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    4. Alleged by whom and on what basis?

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    5. +Pat that makes sense then (me at 12:43) I only see him around Drumcondra. Never seen him in Rome nor do I ever want too.

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  7. 09.50: Since you seem to intimate some knowledge of relevance of alpha Romeo and wallet, be brave and courageous to inform us. After all you are anonymous!!

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  8. 09.51: I don't always agree with Pat. I'm one of his critics but Richard Sipe has been around for a long time. In light of on going revelations re: senior personnel in Church, surely all priests must now seriously ask relevant and awkward questions. If you are a priest, we can no longer pretend all is well. It's not: the crisis faces us each day. I don't know the answers but hiding and fudging real questions is not the solution. I believe now that the good people of God have every right to ask questions and to offer their wisdom, guidance, insights and witness of Christian living. We priests need their goodness and guidance more than ever. The "laity" are educated and are not blind to realities. They simply want to make the Church a better, more caring, welcoming home for all. We priests are lost on our own.

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    1. MourneManMichael13 August 2018 at 12:19

      Anon @ 10:59: much of what you say is true and you are clearly well intentioned.
      But perhaps the nub of it lies in your last sentence' "We priests are lost on our own."
      For: as many have said on this site before, "many of the clergy are immoral financial parasites living comfortably of the back of the laity's contributions."
      So yes it could be well the case that 'on their own' without the laity to financially support them, indeed the clergy are lost.
      My own view is that those in control in the RC hierarchy, like in every other hierarchical institution will never give up power, nor undertake any change seen to possibly weaken their grasp of power and control, particularly of assets.
      MMM

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    2. Mournful Mick Alert. Atheist interested in religion Alert.

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    3. 12.19: MMM , by "lost" I mean not clearsighted or knowing how to be as relevant as we might/should/could be, or how to respond as creatively and imaginatively as I was once able to do. Society has changed so much, the religious landscape is radically altered, never to be what it once was, thankfully, but for myself personally, and I'm sure for many of my colleagues, we sometimes feel we are in a permanent wilderness. Many scandals have shaken our own perceptions if iur ministry and beliefs, even our notion of what "commitment" is about, force him and to whom. I believe in thecessencevof the gospel vision of life, service and humanity in its full glory as exemplified by Christ and I try to give a little glimpse of that in my life. Hiwever, our small parish communities should be encouraged to be a true leaven of Christ. By their fruits you shall know whose disciples they are!! Also, I am saddened that there is little dialogue with those who differ from us about what Church really means: I'm saddened that many have left the Church because of their horror at the scandals, cover ups, lies and reckless irresponsibility of our leaders. It is becoming more difficult to reach out to those who have left, those who are non religious, all who have much to say. I don't fatally despair but my motivation to keep going is severely tested. Yet, I trust in the good Lord! As always, I must search my own heart and conscience first!

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    4. @12:19, you say "many of the clergy are immoral financial parasites" - on what basis are you making this claim? Do you have an objective empirical basis (i.e. actual data) to back this up? Or is it more within the realm of subjective opinion unsupported by data?

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    5. 15:36 it’s within the realm of bigoted rubbish from Mourning Micky from the Mourneful Mountains - a man who tries to masquerade as “reasonable”. Deep down he’s every bit as nasty and off the wall as that loon, Magna Carta.

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    6. MournemanMichael14 August 2018 at 01:29

      Anon@ 15:36: do you think it might ever be possible to obtain an objective empirical analysis of the RC church's financial wheelings and dealings? That secretive organisation well knows to cover up.
      The claim is subjective, but repeatedly experienced and expressed by so many as to become virtually universally acknowledged.

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    7. @01:29, I think if people make a claim they should have something more than subjectivism to back it up. Apart from being a rational approach, it is also one which is just and fair.

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  9. What is Tom Dennihan on this blog today for ?

    Kevin McElroy on again is this the seminarian that is being paid by clergy and I see it now says ex seminarian.

    Please keep us all up to date as the blogs are many now.

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    1. Hi Pat, I don't know Tom Deenihan but I think its unfair to rehash this, whether people agree or not he will be ordained a Bishop in a few weeks time. I know Kevin McElroy a little, he was someone who was very gifted with young people. There is great good in Kevin. An invitation to work in the Cork chaplaincy was likely simply that, that seems reasonable to me

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    2. Re 13:52’s comments and the pictures of the Bishop-elect and a former seminarian of Down and Connor:

      Does Pat Buckley have any regard for the 8th Commandment?

      Has he any respect for the reputations of innocent people?

      Has he any basis or proof to what he is insinuating, other than the tittle tattle of malevolent and faceless ghouls out in cyber space, seeking to make mischief in a most cowardly fashion?

      And even if Buckley has “proof”, is it moral and Christlike to set people up for public stoning the way he does on the internet?

      Cruel, unscrupulous and malicious are the words that come to mind in relation to these antics.

      A little gather up of cackling and wicked old fish wives out in the ether, all clocked around Buckley, with nothing better to do but nudge nudge wink wink about others.

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    3. Nudge, nudge, wink wink, is better than bang! bang! :-)

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    4. Essentially, Pat doesn't see his targets as people. He has dehumanized them through name calling and complete lack of concern regarding the consequences of his words. To him they are simply the fuel he needs to burn in order to continue to stoke his beloved reputation as a "rebel".

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    5. So do you, Fr Buckley, have any regard at all for the 8th Commandment of the Decalogue?

      Remember that one? Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour?

      Are you not engaging in - fostering - facilitating a dangerous and evil character assassination and slander?

      How do you morally justify it? Do you even care?

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    6. My mission does not break the 8th

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    7. So why did you post pictures of Fr. Tom and of Mr. McElroy?

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      Pictures with no comments - inspiring people to share what they know of tge connection between these two. A seminarian whom Tom tried to rob for Cork and Ross; but was blocked.

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    9. Or simply to make things up to satisfy the gossips and voyeurs of this blog?

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  10. @10.59 Asking questions is healthy and very good. For some people to make up and distort the answers without any evidence on this blog is unhealthy and not good.

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    1. Sometimes the questions contain the answers!

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    2. @11.15 You raise an important point when you highlight confusion because there are many blogs now. The reason is to cause confusion and make us drift and divert us away from the Bill Mulvihill debacle. Pat is losing interest because that story like so many others on here are going nowhere. That's the crux of it. Nothing much being said about Bill - havent you noticed?

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    3. FATHER BILL MULVIHILL

      Did you not notice that Bill was commenting yesterday?

      We are not diverting.

      The Bill story is just beginning and growing.

      Watch this space.

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    4. 13.13: Pat, the more Bill protests the less credible he is as his rants are so unintelligible, utter garbage and motivated by malice. TRUTH should be spoken with charity, justice, clarity and balance not the crappy mumbo jumbo 8f Mulvihill. You should stop facilitating his menacing and threatening comments. You bear responsibility for TRUTH NOT HiS MINCED UP VERSION.

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    5. Bill will calm down now because he tells us Pat has offered to make him an Auxiliary bishop. That's the problem with many dioceses everywhere, disaffected priests who want to be bishops. Mulvihill is no exception. When is his Episcopal ordination in Larne Pat?

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    6. Bill does not want to be a bishop. It's hard e tough for him to be a priest in an organisation he does not believe in and in a diocese with so much horrible things going on.

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    7. Pat couldn't make Bill a Bishop because Polly would scratch his eyes out. Eviva Maria

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    8. Maybe Bellarmine may like to apply for the role in the Pishobric who knows.

      God Bless + Pius

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    9. Patsy, Anon at 15:11 This comment is not from me. But from some evil troublemaker using my salutation. As you know unlike others on this blog I never post Anonymously.





















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    10. 16.07
      No. You prefer pseudonymity, madam.

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    11. What is Bill still there for if he doesn't want to be a Priest?

      I think Bill is away with the fairies with his foul perturbed blogging!

      Go Bill, we'll sure loss no sleep on you.

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    12. Bill is an incardinated priest of Armagh.

      The diocese have canonical responsabiities to him.

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  11. Is there a connection between Robert McEloy and Kevin McElroy?

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  12. Richard Sipe R.I.P. has performed invaluable service. I would only say that his figures of 50% and 30% homosexual in the priesthood and episcopacy respectively are extremely conservative. Try subtracting a couple of known heterosexuals such as Kieron Conry and you have a 95% homosocial world in deep public denial but in private rejoicing in their ability to deceive the gullible people of God. Allen Hall in the seventies and eighties was a world in which different levels of gay were the norm, and spread right across the board from the usual Latin and lace queens to the We are Church brigade, so it’s no use scapegoating one particular liturgical persuasion. The then Rector presented himself in formation classes as heterosexual, though later was convicted for historic molestation of boys, so what he was teaching his students in fact was how to dissemble. I am convinced nothing has substantively changed in the clerical culture. It is toxic beyond imagining and a disgrace to the Lord and to His people. I feel deeply for those good and decent men of integrity who find themselves in an entirely discredited profession. Though I wouldn’t suggest exactly emulating Bill, there is the question of where you stand when your superior is a liar and enabler of abuse. God be with those in this intolerable position - the same goes of course for those teaching in Catholic schools where their jobs are on the line should they challenge the culture of Satan in those in authority. I’d say ENOUGH - where do YOU stand?



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  13. Dublin Priest standing a side as we all know it is Foxrock so here is the official statement from the Archdiocese.


    As it is alleged and children involved it has been reported to the GardaΓ­ and it is historical.

    http://www.dublindiocese.ie/statement-on-priest-standing-aside/

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  14. I wonder whether ECA will receive even an acknowledgement of its 'open letter' to Diarmuid Martin, let alone a reply.

    Frankly, I doubt that it will receive either.

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    1. Magna can you please give a statement as to the accusation against you and minors on here yesterday.

      It has shocked the bloggers and you being silent on it.

      Even Bill has missed it were you and Bill at the Seminary together.

      just wondering like.

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    2. I'd say he will be too busy cooukin his coddle and licking his lips to reply to anything. You can take the boy out of Ballyfermot but you cannot take Ballyfermot out of the boy.

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  15. Interesting discussion 're WMOF on Joe Duffy

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    1. Remember to add link.

      https://www.rte.ie/radio/utils/radioplayer/rteradioweb.html#!rii=b9_21413285_53_13-08-2018_

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  16. Kevin McElroy is a good guy. Leave him alone! The real culprit is Brendan Marshall. He has been to the Kremlin and I have pictures to prove it ;-)

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    1. What's wrong with going to Moscow?πŸ˜•

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    2. Well, it's quite a homophobic place.

      The other Kremlin though is great fun.

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  17. Genuine question Bishop Pat,
    Did you have any relatives who were priests or sisters? I ask this, because most priests I know had an uncle or other relative who inspired their discernment and call to religious life.

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    1. No. But a very saintly Jesuit used to visit my home when I was a child ' Fr . John Hyde.He was my inspiration.

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    2. That is wonderful to hear, though I have known any Jesuits, their reputation for piety and saintliness is renowned. I greatly admire Fr William Doyle SJ, and continually pray for his beatification. Perhaps Fr John Hyde was acquainted with him?

      Please pray for me, as I discern my own calling to Religious Life.

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    3. +Pat - almost, if not all Jesuit priests and brothers are saints compared to the Roman secular clergy.

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    4. 16:41

      I will indeed pray for you.

      Father Hyde was professor of dogmatic theology in Hilltown and was another Fr. John Sullivan.

      He had the gift of healing.

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    5. Thank you Bishop Pat,

      I am the poster at 15:44 and 16:41. As a woman I am currently discerning whether I am best suited to contemplative or apostolic life, being in contact with novice mistresses from Orders reflecting both. I am very grateful for your prayers.

      God Bless.

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  18. Is it just me or does Coddle have the eyes of someone with Down Syndrome ? God Bless the mark.

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    1. If he has he is in trouble with Bishop Kevin Doran who has compared Downs Syndrome and homosexuality.

      Is Diarmuid gay,?

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    2. You wouldn't know +Pat - he does walk funny after a trip to Florence.

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    3. Is he a regular in Florence then?

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    4. Anonymous at 16.48: Does DM have ... ' the eyes of someone with Down Syndrome?' I know lots of people with Down Syndrome, and I think that this comment/question is most disparaging to people with DS. I think that people with Down Syndrome have beautiful eyes. What I see in their eyes is trust, honesty, wisdom, openness, kindness, and many other beautiful qualities. So maybe poster you need to look again.

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  19. MAGNA IS EMOTIONALLY MOVED!πŸ˜‚

    Magna has just watched 'Paul, Apostle for Christ' on YouTube (£3.49 to rent).

    A powerful piece of faction, well worth watching.πŸ˜†

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  20. FATHER SEAN J QUINN

    A comment maker above insists that Fr. Quinn is totally innocent.

    The Safeguarding Director of Armagh says in writing that he has referred the case to the civil authorities

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    1. PS: One of his victims has lodged a civil case in recent weeks.

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    2. Referring the case to the civil authorities implies there is something worth investigating. That does not automatically mean that the one being investigated is guilty.

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  21. Quinn is not innocent. Highly protected.

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  22. DALY MADE SETTLEMENT AS WELL

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    1. 20.55: Pat, you and your sick side kick, Bill, present distortions of truth. Bill does not need your enabling him to go completely off the edge: your continued using of him is ethically and morally wrong. As for your "spirituality" - well, let's say it's not of CHRIST. Your outpourings are full of malice, vengance and spiteful vindictiveness. You have absolutely no capacity for any self insight, none whatsoever!

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  24. They'll settle Bill very soon.

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  25. MC is keeping quiet. I knew we'd track him down like we did Sean Page. Come and tell us the full story you dirty wh**e. Maynooth did good getting rid of you Carta. Maybe Bill might beat me to telling all. Say the Memorare 100 times drunken Magna. Eviva Maria

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      Don't concern yourself, Big B.: I know that wasn't you.☺

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    2. Anonymous at 22:28

      While I usually never agree with anything Polly say's I do not believe the latest scurrilous allegation made. The person responsible can have that on their conscience if they have one. But I am glad to see you recommending The Memorare it cannot be recommended enough.Eviva Maria!

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    3. Magna at 23:52

      Deo Gratias, Eviva Maria!

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  26. 11.41 Thanks for that comment 'God be with those in that intolerable position'. Having stood up against abuse in Dublin, I am still homeless and unemployed as a result of it. That's what happens when you stand up but I look to the Lord.

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  27. MourneManMichael14 August 2018 at 08:55

    Thank you Anon@17:18 for your kind insightful perceptive comment on my personality and contributions to intelligent debate. Perhaps if you could be so kind as to use an identifying pseudonym I could earnestly look forward to your further intelligent contributions to debate. Or

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    1. Mourning Micky, you’re welcome.

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